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Interview with a vampire

by: leftsfoil

I have some questions for spinwiddy.
When you were in grammar school did people seem to want to walk up to you and punch you in the face a lot?
Have you ever counted how many coat hanger scars you have on the top of your head?
Do you ever wonder what it's like to be popular or maybe cherished?
Do you believe that arguments are won by the person with the smartest mouth?
Do you think that you would recognize an anagram of your own name if you saw it?
If I could actually see what you are saying, do you think that [I'd spy wind]?
If you had a time machine, can you think of any reason why you might be willing to go back and abort yourself?
If it turned out that humanity really is worthless and life is not worth living after all, would you finally find joy?
Which do you think is more precious, the first 9 months of your life or the final nine months of your life?
This is all Qs I can think of for now but perhaps others will have some questions that they'd like to ask as well.

reply from: bozo

I have a question too, Spinny.
Do goats make good pets?
On all the cartoons I've seen, goats eat everything, including tin cans. Is this true?
Do goats get along ok with dogs and cats?

reply from: saucie

Come on, spitwad...be a good sport and answer the questions.
Try and remember this isn't Mark asking you what the six un-truths are...no need to fear.

reply from: BossMomma

Oh my, this was mature. Here are some questions.
Do you believe slam threads like this influence the public towards the pro-life mind set or against it?
Do you believe in helping women and born children too or does the woman hold no value and the child lose it's value upon severing the umbelicus?
Do you agree that fathers should have to support their children or should they be able to just walk away?
Do you donate to church charities, CPC's, assist unwed mothers-to-be or, new mothers?

reply from: Banned Member

Has Spinwiddy caused more harm or good to the pro-life movement?
Who pays Spinwiddy to troll pro-life blogs, forums and websites 24/7?
Does Spinwiddy personally believe that abortion is an immoral act?
What personal, professional or financial interest does Spiniwddy have in the continued presense of legal abortion in America?

reply from: BossMomma

For 1 million dollars...who'd sleep with Augustine?

reply from: Banned Member

For 1 million dollars...who'd sleep with Augustine?
Who paid the men who slept with BossMomma?

reply from: bozo

It probably has very little effect in the overall scheme of things, since I think most people understand message boards--especially anything-goes types--are often glorified food fights, and realize these types of comments are not part of a "debate" or a "cause," but are about personal satisfaction.

reply from: Banned Member

It probably has very little effect in the overall scheme of things, since I think most people understand message boards--especially anything-goes types--are often glorified food fights, and realize these types of comments are not part of a "debate" or a "cause," but are about personal satisfaction.
You are Faramir, I know you are!

reply from: leftsfoil

For 1 million dollars...who'd sleep with Augustine?
As tempting as your generous offer sounds.. (not), I'm afraid that I'm going to have to decline. Thanks anyway for your mature and cause-worthy reply.

reply from: leftsfoil

It probably has very little effect in the overall scheme of things, since I think most people understand message boards--especially anything-goes types--are often glorified food fights, and realize these types of comments are not part of a "debate" or a "cause," but are about personal satisfaction.
Bozo, you are indeed a clown of great wisdom.
Beep, Beep!

reply from: saucie

It probably has very little effect in the overall scheme of things, since I think most people understand message boards--especially anything-goes types--are often glorified food fights, and realize these types of comments are not part of a "debate" or a "cause," but are about personal satisfaction.
You are Faramir, I know you are!
Did you ever doubt?
He has so much intellecutal honesty that he frequently leaves, comes back as the same moron and thinks no one notices.

reply from: BossMomma

For 1 million dollars...who'd sleep with Augustine?
As tempting as your generous offer sounds.. (not), I'm afraid that I'm going to have to decline. Thanks anyway for your mature and cause-worthy reply.
Being that you're the one who started this sad excuse for a thread I find it ironic that you want to talk about maturity.

reply from: leftsfoil

So sad in fact, that you've posted to it 3 times already. Thank you for your support. I hadn't realized that you were the fun monitor up here. Turn about is fair play and I think you are capable of taking a little bit of your own medicine from time to time. You used the wrong word anyway. It's not a question of maturity, it's a question of tossing back some of the strings of crap spinwiddy spins.
Somehow you seemed more likable before. What happened, did your other personality suddenly come out? I would like to talk to the nice Momma now. Come out, nice Momma. I miss the nice Momma. She's good and wonderful and helps people and is never mean.

reply from: yoda

You may have touched a nerve........

reply from: leftsfoil

You may have touched a nerve........
I too felt a disturbance in the force.

reply from: BossMomma

So sad in fact, that you've posted to it 3 times already. Thank you for your support. I hadn't realized that you were the fun monitor up here. Turn about is fair play and I think you are capable of taking a little bit of your own medicine from time to time. You used the wrong word anyway. It's not a question of maturity, it's a question of tossing back some of the strings of crap spinwiddy spins.
Somehow you seemed more likable before. What happened, did your other personality suddenly come out? I would like to talk to the nice Momma now. Come out, nice Momma. I miss the nice Momma. She's good and wonderful and helps people and is never mean.
I also stick by the people who have stuck by me no matter which side I'm on, Spin was my friend as a pro-choicer and she's still my friend even though I switched sides in this debate. Every pro-life 'friend' I've had on this forum has been a two faced back biter.

reply from: BossMomma

You may have touched a nerve........
Not a chance. His opinion doesn't matter that much.

reply from: leftsfoil

You may have touched a nerve........
Not a chance. His opinion doesn't matter that much.
Of course my opinion means nothing to you. You don't depend or rely upon me for anything. You don't work for me and you're not family or even a real friend. I can assure you that my guidance and advise is valued by some, just not by strangers.
By the way, like it or not, we have something in common you and I. We are both front biters. I'm sure you've noticed that I too have no reservations about telling it like it is. However, this idea of standing with pitiful idiots because they once stood with you (when you were wrong) just sounds dumb as hell to me. Tell me why it isn't.

reply from: BossMomma

You may have touched a nerve........
Not a chance. His opinion doesn't matter that much.
Of course my opinion means nothing to you. You don't depend or rely upon me for anything. You don't work for me and you're not family or even a real friend. I can assure you that my guidance and advise is valued by some, just not by strangers.
By the way, like it or not, we have something in common you and I. We are both front biters. I'm sure you've noticed that I too have no reservations about telling it like it is. However, this idea of standing with pitiful idiots because they once stood with you (when you were wrong) just sounds dumb as hell to me. Tell me why it isn't.
Spin has always stood with me, every friendship I've tried to make with a pro-lifer here has gone sour. Spinwiddy is not a pitiful idiot, she simply disagrees with you and for some of you that alone is enough to condemn her. Judge not lest ye be judged for by that measure shall you be judged.

reply from: yoda

What a statement..... and you don't see a pattern there? Here's a clue... when you think that everyone in the world is crazy except you.... it's probably YOU.
Apparently, she doesn't disagree with you.

reply from: leftsfoil

Well I'm going to have to "simply disagree with you" on that.
You don't seem civil enough to be a Bible quoting Christian. I've not met any foul mouthed Bible quoting Christians before. How unique you seem.
Incidentally, only a idiot stumbles through life without making constant judgments and pre-judgments. The context for your quote is way off. I suggest joining a Bible study group.

reply from: lukesmom

Oh right and that is why she attacks everyone here and their families, plays word games with innocent statements, insinuates nastiness and hate where there is none. She purposefully tries to cause trouble and tries to hurt. Here, she shows a mean streak a mile long and no remorse for any nasty words or insinuation she makes. Every nasty that is given to her is deserved by her. Go ahead and be her "friend". People are often judged by their friends, even here. As for myself, I can't get that close to such stench of meaness and lies.

reply from: saucie

Judge not does not apply in this situation, BM.
Learn something about juding before you quote it.
I have JUDGED, yes JUDGED spitwad's take on life and find it self centered, selfish, murderous towards helpless children in the womb, hateful, hurtful and she's quite possibly a bumbling idiot.
There's a quote I heard years ago and it is absolutley true:
"Show me your friends, and I'll show you your future".

reply from: bozo

This implies that if a prochoicer has prolifers as friends, that being prolife is in his or her future. Is that correct?

reply from: yoda

I think maybe that's what BM admires most about her.

reply from: saucie

This implies that if a prochoicer has prolifers as friends, that being prolife is in his or her future. Is that correct?
It means who you surround yourself with will eventually wear off on you...so, yes it can mean just that.

reply from: saucie

Glad you're keeping a list...why not try and knock a few of those off...starting with "murderous towards helpless children in the womb"? That will go a long way in crossing the rest off.
Btw, I've never called you, "retarded"...but I think I can add bad speller to the list.

reply from: saucie

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<~
If you're going to use my words against me, at least try to make them fit.

reply from: BossMomma

What a statement..... and you don't see a pattern there? Here's a clue... when you think that everyone in the world is crazy except you.... it's probably YOU.
Apparently, she doesn't disagree with you.
We very peacefully disagree on abortion, however, the subject of abortion is not the basis upon which I make friends. I'm not that obsessed with it. As to insanity, I'm not stalking people outside of abortion clinics and posting their pictures on the web. You are a total wack job.

reply from: BossMomma

Oh right and that is why she attacks everyone here and their families, plays word games with innocent statements, insinuates nastiness and hate where there is none. She purposefully tries to cause trouble and tries to hurt. Here, she shows a mean streak a mile long and no remorse for any nasty words or insinuation she makes. Every nasty that is given to her is deserved by her. Go ahead and be her "friend". People are often judged by their friends, even here. As for myself, I can't get that close to such stench of meaness and lies.
And I do recall sticking up for your ass every single time too you great twit. You have no room to talk, for every stone she's thrown you've fired one back.

reply from: BossMomma

Well I'm going to have to "simply disagree with you" on that.
You don't seem civil enough to be a Bible quoting Christian. I've not met any foul mouthed Bible quoting Christians before. How unique you seem.
Incidentally, only a idiot stumbles through life without making constant judgments and pre-judgments. The context for your quote is way off. I suggest joining a Bible study group.
I'm already in one, we don't judge people by their opinions.

reply from: saucie

What a statement..... and you don't see a pattern there? Here's a clue... when you think that everyone in the world is crazy except you.... it's probably YOU.
Apparently, she doesn't disagree with you.
We very peacefully disagree on abortion, however, the subject of abortion is not the basis upon which I make friends. I'm not that obsessed with it. As to insanity, I'm not stalking people outside of abortion clinics and posting their pictures on the web. You are a total wack job.
And what do you do to give the babies a voice, maybe half a fighting chance, except flap your jaws on this site and make no sense when you do it.
Lady, you want to see a picture of "wack job"...go take a good long look in the closet mirror you can find...you'll see the real "wack job"....try not to go blind.

reply from: saucie

Well I'm going to have to "simply disagree with you" on that.
You don't seem civil enough to be a Bible quoting Christian. I've not met any foul mouthed Bible quoting Christians before. How unique you seem.
Incidentally, only a idiot stumbles through life without making constant judgments and pre-judgments. The context for your quote is way off. I suggest joining a Bible study group.
I'm already in one, we don't judge people by their opinions.
Either you're not paying attention and your reading comprehension sucks there too, or you're in a Bible study from hell.

reply from: BossMomma

Well I'm going to have to "simply disagree with you" on that.
You don't seem civil enough to be a Bible quoting Christian. I've not met any foul mouthed Bible quoting Christians before. How unique you seem.
Incidentally, only a idiot stumbles through life without making constant judgments and pre-judgments. The context for your quote is way off. I suggest joining a Bible study group.
I'm already in one, we don't judge people by their opinions.
Either you're not paying attention and your reading comprehension sucks there too, or you're in a Bible study from hell.
No my dear, your rectal cranial impaction has you confused.

reply from: leftsfoil

More questions for sinwiddy:
Are you surprised when someone tells you that they admire or agree with you?
When your harsh words get a rise out of people, does that make you feel relevant?
Is there anyone you don't feel contempt for?
How many people have you killed?
How many people would you like to kill?
If you could share all of your misery all at once, can you estimate how many people would be stricken?
Is there anyone who feels proud of you?
Do you make a mess of your bedding every night?
Is/were there any sociopaths in your family?
Would you enjoy punching me in the face?
Do you think these questions only apply to you?

reply from: yoda

Could be, or it could all be a well rehearsed act. A true blue proabort trying to pose as a prolifer, most likely.

reply from: BossMomma

What a statement..... and you don't see a pattern there? Here's a clue... when you think that everyone in the world is crazy except you.... it's probably YOU.
Apparently, she doesn't disagree with you.
We very peacefully disagree on abortion, however, the subject of abortion is not the basis upon which I make friends. I'm not that obsessed with it. As to insanity, I'm not stalking people outside of abortion clinics and posting their pictures on the web. You are a total wack job.
And what do you do to give the babies a voice, maybe half a fighting chance, except flap your jaws on this site and make no sense when you do it.
Lady, you want to see a picture of "wack job"...go take a good long look in the closet mirror you can find...you'll see the real "wack job"....try not to go blind.
Lets see, what do I give to the babies? I give their teen moms free baby sitting so they can further their educations and get careers. I provide transportation to medicaid, WIC, prenatal appointments and provide monthly donations to our local crisis pregnancy center. I speak out against abortion, I voted pro-life and, recently joined our yearly protest of abortion, basically we rent a hearse and all the pro-lifers in town follow it for 3 laps around the city in silence as a funeral procession for the unborn lives lost each year in abortion. Well, theres my tiny bit done for the babies, what do YOU do for them?

reply from: BossMomma

Could be, or it could all be a well rehearsed act. A true blue proabort trying to pose as a prolifer, most likely.
Idiot, I was a more pro-active pro-lifer than you even when I supported choice.

reply from: saucie

The minute you entered it became just that.

reply from: saucie

What a statement..... and you don't see a pattern there? Here's a clue... when you think that everyone in the world is crazy except you.... it's probably YOU.
Apparently, she doesn't disagree with you.
We very peacefully disagree on abortion, however, the subject of abortion is not the basis upon which I make friends. I'm not that obsessed with it. As to insanity, I'm not stalking people outside of abortion clinics and posting their pictures on the web. You are a total wack job.
And what do you do to give the babies a voice, maybe half a fighting chance, except flap your jaws on this site and make no sense when you do it.
Lady, you want to see a picture of "wack job"...go take a good long look in the closet mirror you can find...you'll see the real "wack job"....try not to go blind.
Lets see, what do I give to the babies? I give their teen moms free baby sitting so they can further their educations and get careers. I provide transportation to medicaid, WIC, prenatal appointments and provide monthly donations to our local crisis pregnancy center. I speak out against abortion, I voted pro-life and, recently joined our yearly protest of abortion, basically we rent a hearse and all the pro-lifers in town follow it for 3 laps around the city in silence as a funeral procession for the unborn lives lost each year in abortion. Well, theres my tiny bit done for the babies, what do YOU do for them?
If you told me what time it was, I'd check my watch.

reply from: BossMomma

What a statement..... and you don't see a pattern there? Here's a clue... when you think that everyone in the world is crazy except you.... it's probably YOU.
Apparently, she doesn't disagree with you.
We very peacefully disagree on abortion, however, the subject of abortion is not the basis upon which I make friends. I'm not that obsessed with it. As to insanity, I'm not stalking people outside of abortion clinics and posting their pictures on the web. You are a total wack job.
And what do you do to give the babies a voice, maybe half a fighting chance, except flap your jaws on this site and make no sense when you do it.
Lady, you want to see a picture of "wack job"...go take a good long look in the closet mirror you can find...you'll see the real "wack job"....try not to go blind.
Lets see, what do I give to the babies? I give their teen moms free baby sitting so they can further their educations and get careers. I provide transportation to medicaid, WIC, prenatal appointments and provide monthly donations to our local crisis pregnancy center. I speak out against abortion, I voted pro-life and, recently joined our yearly protest of abortion, basically we rent a hearse and all the pro-lifers in town follow it for 3 laps around the city in silence as a funeral procession for the unborn lives lost each year in abortion. Well, theres my tiny bit done for the babies, what do YOU do for them?
If you told me what time it was, I'd check my watch.
That basically translates into You do not do a damn thing for the unborn and are just a blow hard.

reply from: leftsfoil

Are you rough and rude to those people too?

reply from: BossMomma

Are you rough and rude to those people too?
Of course not, they don't act like idiots with me. You on the other hand..

reply from: leftsfoil

You really don't see the relationship between your ill temper and foul mouth and the fact that so many tend to dislike you?.. and I'm the idiot? Hmmm..

reply from: saucie

You really don't see the relationship between your ill temper and foul mouth and the fact that so many tend to dislike you?.. and I'm the idiot? Hmmm..
Very good point.

reply from: saucie

What a statement..... and you don't see a pattern there? Here's a clue... when you think that everyone in the world is crazy except you.... it's probably YOU.
Apparently, she doesn't disagree with you.
We very peacefully disagree on abortion, however, the subject of abortion is not the basis upon which I make friends. I'm not that obsessed with it. As to insanity, I'm not stalking people outside of abortion clinics and posting their pictures on the web. You are a total wack job.
And what do you do to give the babies a voice, maybe half a fighting chance, except flap your jaws on this site and make no sense when you do it.
Lady, you want to see a picture of "wack job"...go take a good long look in the closet mirror you can find...you'll see the real "wack job"....try not to go blind.
Lets see, what do I give to the babies? I give their teen moms free baby sitting so they can further their educations and get careers. I provide transportation to medicaid, WIC, prenatal appointments and provide monthly donations to our local crisis pregnancy center. I speak out against abortion, I voted pro-life and, recently joined our yearly protest of abortion, basically we rent a hearse and all the pro-lifers in town follow it for 3 laps around the city in silence as a funeral procession for the unborn lives lost each year in abortion. Well, theres my tiny bit done for the babies, what do YOU do for them?
If you told me what time it was, I'd check my watch.
That basically translates into You do not do a damn thing for the unborn and are just a blow hard.
Nope, that translates into I wouldn't tell you anything about my experiences if it meant cash in my bank account. I would still check my watch if you told me what time it was...pretty simple explanation...no need to twist anything.
Besides that, for me to be a "blow hard" I would have had to already "blown" my own horn on what it is I do....4.0....ha ha ha.

reply from: yoda

And of course, we have "your word" for that, right?

reply from: yoda

You really don't see the relationship between your ill temper and foul mouth and the fact that so many tend to dislike you?.. and I'm the idiot? Hmmm..
Very good point.
Pretty well sums it up.

reply from: BossMomma

You really don't see the relationship between your ill temper and foul mouth and the fact that so many tend to dislike you?.. and I'm the idiot? Hmmm..
The only ones here who dislike me are the ones whose heads are so far into their rectal cavity their head is coming to a point. You have not even been here long enough to know who you're talking to.

reply from: yoda

Wow....... you respond to his comment about your ill temper and foul mouth by hurling more insults.
You sure showed him..... you proved his point!!

reply from: saucie

This is exactly why I laugh at her 4.0!
Pleeeeeeeeease....give me a break! She isn't even smart enough not to open her mouth without sticking her foot in it...AGAIN! Ha ha ha!

reply from: lukesmom

Oh right and that is why she attacks everyone here and their families, plays word games with innocent statements, insinuates nastiness and hate where there is none. She purposefully tries to cause trouble and tries to hurt. Here, she shows a mean streak a mile long and no remorse for any nasty words or insinuation she makes. Every nasty that is given to her is deserved by her. Go ahead and be her "friend". People are often judged by their friends, even here. As for myself, I can't get that close to such stench of meaness and lies.
And I do recall sticking up for your ass every single time too you great twit. You have no room to talk, for every stone she's thrown you've fired one back.
Well this "great twit" has stood up for you too and didn't know we were keeping score. BTW, I only fire back when I'm attacked about my son. This "great twit" would also like to remind you that you live in a glass house so maybe you should watch the stones YOU throw, which seem to be alot. I never have and suprisingly don't harbor any ill will toward you and am rather suprised at your calling me names.

reply from: BossMomma

Oh right and that is why she attacks everyone here and their families, plays word games with innocent statements, insinuates nastiness and hate where there is none. She purposefully tries to cause trouble and tries to hurt. Here, she shows a mean streak a mile long and no remorse for any nasty words or insinuation she makes. Every nasty that is given to her is deserved by her. Go ahead and be her "friend". People are often judged by their friends, even here. As for myself, I can't get that close to such stench of meaness and lies.
And I do recall sticking up for your ass every single time too you great twit. You have no room to talk, for every stone she's thrown you've fired one back.
Well this "great twit" has stood up for you too and didn't know we were keeping score. BTW, I only fire back when I'm attacked about my son. This "great twit" would also like to remind you that you live in a glass house so maybe you should watch the stones YOU throw, which seem to be alot. I never have and suprisingly don't harbor any ill will toward you and am rather suprised at your calling me names.
I do not live in a glass house, I do not single out and abuse people on a whim, unlike yourself. I do not keep score but I do remember when I have spoken against someone whom I like very much for a person I neither like much nor trust. I throw a stone when one is thrown at me but I do not dog that person's steps through every post with the intent to maliciously harass. You do.
I will also remind you that as much as people whine and complain about my aggressive manner of debate, me and every last person here have gotten along and buried the hatchet at some point, it's not until my opinion disagrees with theirs that I become 'mean and nasty.' Hell, even me and faithmonkey got along for a brief time until he started showing his ass again.

reply from: BossMomma

And of course, we have "your word" for that, right?
My word and no less than five unwed teen mothers who drop their kids off at my house free of charge so that they can go to school. Everyone in my town knows me for what I do. What do you do besides put up cute little cross displays and harass people outside of bortie clinics?

reply from: saucie

And of course, we have "your word" for that, right?
My word and no less than five unwed teen mothers who drop their kids off at my house free of charge so that they can go to school. Everyone in my town knows me for what I do. What do you do besides put up cute little cross displays and harass people outside of bortie clinics?
If those people in your town could read what you write here, they'd do what they could to bar any young children within 50 miles of you.
That is if there were actually any "kids" coming there in the first place.

reply from: BossMomma

And of course, we have "your word" for that, right?
My word and no less than five unwed teen mothers who drop their kids off at my house free of charge so that they can go to school. Everyone in my town knows me for what I do. What do you do besides put up cute little cross displays and harass people outside of bortie clinics?
If those people in your town could read what you write here, they'd do what they could to bar any young children within 50 miles of you.
That is if there were actually any "kids" coming there in the first place.
lol if people in my town saw what I write there would be a few thousand beer toasts and hell yeah's. I am brutally honest, so are the folks in Dayton Tx. You have yet to detail what exactly it is you do for the unborn besides come here and pick fights with people smarter than yourself. Thus far you are just another pro-life chickenhawk, all talk and no action.

reply from: saucie

And of course, we have "your word" for that, right?
My word and no less than five unwed teen mothers who drop their kids off at my house free of charge so that they can go to school. Everyone in my town knows me for what I do. What do you do besides put up cute little cross displays and harass people outside of bortie clinics?
If those people in your town could read what you write here, they'd do what they could to bar any young children within 50 miles of you.
That is if there were actually any "kids" coming there in the first place.
lol if people in my town saw what I write there would be a few thousand beer toasts and hell yeah's. I am brutally honest, so are the folks in Dayton Tx. You have yet to detail what exactly it is you do for the unborn besides come here and pick fights with people smarter than yourself. Thus far you are just another pro-life chickenhawk, all talk and no action.
I know better than to accept one person's word on how the rest of a community feels. If you were actually speaking for everyone in that town it would be on the news day and night, if the all acted like you do.
I've already gone over what it is I do...you missed the post, too stinking bad.
I don't have to justify anything to the likes of you and the only time I did go over how I contribute it was very hard to do so, I don't toot my own horn, just because YOU are a blow hard, doesn't mean the rest of us are.
Seriously, get some help...at least your children deserve it.

reply from: lukesmom

Dear Lord, I believe she is BiPolar and is in the hyper phase. I liked her better before. At least then she made some sense.

reply from: fetalisa

That's only because it takes a certain level of intelligence to reject the opinions of the uninformed and ignorant.

reply from: BossMomma

Cheap shot bringing in my BP disorder which is well controlled by medication. But then, it takes a cheap person to take a cheap shot now doesn't it?

reply from: lukesmom

Cheap shot bringing in my BP disorder which is well controlled by medication. But then, it takes a cheap person to take a cheap shot now doesn't it?
LOL! I am GOOD! I didn't even know you were Bipolar until now! Can't be a "cheap shot" unless I actually knew in advance. After reading your posts lately, I wouldn't say your condition is under control.

reply from: saucie

Cheap shot bringing in my BP disorder which is well controlled by medication. But then, it takes a cheap person to take a cheap shot now doesn't it?
You have the nerve to call that a cheap shot when you took a cheap shot at the death of her darling son...you are sick and obviously the medication isn't controlling a thing...typical of BP disorder...the patient thinks everything is just fine...go back to your doctor, your chidren deserve better.

reply from: fetalisa

I see we have a Rhodes scholar amongst us.

reply from: lukesmom

I see we have a Rhodes scholar amongst us.
Trolling again Lisa?

reply from: fetalisa

After 5 posts in rapid succession, every one of which were personal attacks instead of attacks against the argument, I made an observation of the FACTS.

reply from: saucie

After 5 posts in rapid succession, every one of which were personal attacks instead of attacks against the argument, I made an observation of the FACTS.
All right, attention whore, this is the last bit you get from me...now, go crawl back under your slimy, oozing rock and make the attention last.

reply from: leftsfoil

That's only because it takes a certain level of intelligence to reject the opinions of the uninformed and ignorant.
I am going to give you a permanent pass Lisa as I believe it would be quite unfair of me to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed woman.
However, I was wondering.. does your real haircut look as shabby as your avatar's?

reply from: leftsfoil

I'm sorry Lisa, I meant to say crappy.

reply from: BossMomma

Cheap shot bringing in my BP disorder which is well controlled by medication. But then, it takes a cheap person to take a cheap shot now doesn't it?
LOL! I am GOOD! I didn't even know you were Bipolar until now! Can't be a "cheap shot" unless I actually knew in advance. After reading your posts lately, I wouldn't say your condition is under control.
Yes you did, I've told you in PM's and stated time and again that I am bipolar, you're not even a good liar.

reply from: BossMomma

Cheap shot bringing in my BP disorder which is well controlled by medication. But then, it takes a cheap person to take a cheap shot now doesn't it?
You have the nerve to call that a cheap shot when you took a cheap shot at the death of her darling son...you are sick and obviously the medication isn't controlling a thing...typical of BP disorder...the patient thinks everything is just fine...go back to your doctor, your chidren deserve better.
What cheap shot? She admitted that she was abusing certain people because of her depression over the loss of her son, once again you prove yourself an imbecile.

reply from: lukesmom

If you did, I don't remember. I have been many things but I have never been, am not and never will be a liar.
Stick a fork in me, I'm done.

reply from: fetalisa

How can that be when you are prolife?
Your arguments certainly are.

reply from: lukesmom

How can that be when you are prolife?
Your arguments certainly are.
Arguments? I don't argue or debate with nasty little trolls. Time to back into your troll hole.

reply from: fetalisa

I know. I have read your posts. Arguments require logic.

reply from: saucie

How can that be when you are prolife?
Your arguments certainly are.
Arguments? I don't argue or debate with nasty little trolls. Time to back into your troll hole.
What's that saying....feed a cold, starve a troll...

reply from: lukesmom

Yeh, lisa couldn't argue her way out of a paper bag. If we wait a few hours she will be gone again into troll land only to pop up again in a few months. Most be a boring day for her to be here again.

reply from: saucie

Oh..."it's" a woman?
What a vile example of womanhood....wonder if her keepers don't just let her have access to a computer now and again, that makes more sense why she's here from time to time.

reply from: lukesmom

Oh..."it's" a woman?
What a vile example of womanhood....wonder if her keepers don't just let her have access to a computer now and again, that makes more sense why she's here from time to time.
She/it only comes out when the moon is full.

reply from: fetalisa

35 years of insulting all who disagree with the prolife and yet, abortion is still legal. Did it ever occur to the prolife that insulting those who do not agree with them won't change the law?

reply from: lukesmom

35 years of insulting all who disagree with the prolife and yet, abortion is still legal. Did it ever occur to the prolife that insulting those who do not agree with them won't change the law?
If you look in the dictionary for the definition of hypocrite, you will see fetalisa's picture.

reply from: fetalisa

Read the comments posted by the prolife on these forums and you will easily see why our society does not take them seriously, nor listen to them.

reply from: leftsfoil

Read the comments posted by the prolife on these forums and you will easily see why our society does not take them seriously, nor listen to them.
Oh, so that's why. It's the society that's decided it's OK for mothers to kill their babies. Silly me, here I thought it had something to do with the supreme court and a lie packed lawsuit brought by a couple of ACLU-ish lawyers.
Or are you suggesting that the supreme court monitors this forum and that's what is keeping them from changing their minds?

reply from: fetalisa

Killing babies is illegal.

reply from: leftsfoil

Well duh! Did you figure that out all by yourself? You must have went to school or something.
By the way Mrs. Lestat, I was wondering, if you were to bite someone on the neck would they live forever too?

reply from: fetalisa

It is the prolife who wish to blur the lines between babies/fetus and fetus/person. Were the prolife to stop doing that, I would have no need to clarify. Given 35 years of these prolife pretenses has left us with abortion still legal, it leaves one wondering if the prolife will EVER figure out why such silly games aren't working.

reply from: leftsfoil

It is the prolife who wish to blur the lines between babies/fetus and fetus/person. Were the prolife to stop doing that, I would have no need to clarify. Given 35 years of these prolife pretenses has left us with abortion still legal, it leaves one wondering if the prolife will EVER figure out why such silly games aren't working.
So are we to believe that your definitions are more valid than ours? Why would that be? You have no dominion over reality and you have near zero credibility on this board. Why should we take anything you say to be any more than what it is?.. a waste of time. A waste of your's mostly. You must admit that you do spend a great deal of time arguing with people that you think are stupid, silly, childish, etc. How smart does that make you look? To me your posts and opinions seem like a demon screaming in the darkness. I don't understand you but I do feel pity as well as contempt for you. Honest Indian.

reply from: fetalisa

It is http://www.christiantelegraph.com/issue3452.html that embryos are property, whether you CHOOSE to ignore this FACT or not:
"The court, ruling that the issue is a matter of --->private property<---, declared that the embryos be destroyed by thawing,"
So blather on about how 'life' and 'personhood' at begins at conception, but the FACT remains that embryos are PROPERTY.
I address the POINTS raised in discussion on these boards. When do you? You come back with personal attacks, but IGNORE the points raised. So I will leave it as an exercise for the readers to CLICK THE LINKS I provide to BACK UP WHAT I SAY, while you continue with the ad hominems.
Perhaps YOU are the one concerned with how things look, while I am not?
More ad hominems, while you've YET to REFUTE ANY of the issues I have raised.

reply from: leftsfoil

Just a Demon screaming in the dark.

reply from: leftsfoil

OK.. if it makes you happy, I'll refute your ideas.
I, leftsfoil, hereby officially refute all the self serving, low minded, amoral, anti-theological, inhumane, ill considered, old worn out catch phrases and mean spirited rhetoric that you, fetalisa, (and your ilk) have ever, or will ever, voice in this forum or elsewhere. Further, I summarily dismiss all your so called proofs as mere opinion and non facts. I further declare that you are a typical foaming at the mouth liberal leftist loser so filled with anger and self indignation that you are entirely unworthy of any further attention or serious consideration.
So there you go. I've tried to give you what you wanted but somehow I don't think that you will be satisfied for long and soon will be whining about something else. On this last point, I implore you to prove me wrong.

reply from: fetalisa

All you have provided is more baseless assertions in the form of ad hominems.

reply from: leftsfoil

There is no plural form for the phrase, ad hominem. Please smart up a little more if you expect me to remain interested in your responses.

reply from: BossMomma

Adhominems is a word, it's right up there with dumberer.

reply from: fetalisa

I always know I have hit pay dirt when the questions I pose are consistently avoided.

reply from: leftsfoil

So that's why you've answered none of my questions.
Why do you continue to pretend that you are interested in having an intelligent exchange of ideas with the purpose of ascertaining the truth of things and thereby finding enlightenment for us all?
You are a self styled bash artist/quasi-intellectual hack that is only interested in creating and maintaining an ongoing bash-fest. You have just the right amount of smugness and closed thinking to carry you through.
This is why I, and others, refuse to engage you in serious debate. This reply (right here) is your big clue so if you miss it... then you've missed it. We'll be able to tell whether or not you caught on finally or if you still remain clueless by the nature of your future posts. If they are of the same tired old rhetoric tagged with your trademark confrontational rubbish, then you missed it. No matter though. Que sera sera.

reply from: fetalisa

In what way do your personal attacks constitute questions, given they are baseless assertions?

reply from: leftsfoil

In what way do your personal attacks constitute questions, given they are baseless assertions?
Ah.. now were getting somewhere. You make my point. We both believe that the other is making baseless assertions, therefore all that is left for me is to have a little fun dancing around you. You are dancing pretty fast yourself missy.
It's would be dishonest to pretend that either of us have some sort of "proof" to back up our abortion positions because it's all based solely on opinion, isn't it? Yours and mine, correct?
The entire subject of abortion turns on one point and one point only, do you believe in the sanctity of human life.
If you do believe, then one must be pro-life.. and if you don't believe then you can justify any form of homicide that suit your sensibilities.
Please check a dictionary definition of http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sanctity before responding so that we are on the same page and please try to make an effort to actually respond to my question. I have italicized my question so that you can easily identify it. If you will do this, I promise I will provide a civil responce to any queries you make in return.

reply from: fetalisa

I have proof to back up what I say. All one need do is click on the links I cite and READ.
If you need my kidney and will die without it, do you have the right to take and use my kidney without my CONSENT? On what moral principle(s) can you justify the right to FORCE ME TO DONATE MY ORGANS TO YOU without my CONSENT, if you will die without my kidney?
Or does your right to life stop at the point where my body begins, even if it means you will die without the use of my body?

reply from: BossMomma

I have proof to back up what I say. All one need do is click on the links I cite and READ.
If you need my kidney and will die without it, do you have the right to take and use my kidney without my CONSENT? On what moral principle(s) can you justify the right to FORCE ME TO DONATE MY ORGANS TO YOU without my CONSENT, if you will die without my kidney?
Or does your right to life stop at the point where my body begins, even if it means you will die without the use of my body?
Your constant reference to forced organ donation is ridiculous. A fetus is not using any organ but your uterus and the placenta attached to it. Your body continues to function as it always has save for the nutrients shared through the removal of waste and frankly eating, peeing and, crapping a little extra never hurt anyone. The vast majority of pregnancies are not a life and death struggle for the woman, in fact a mere 1% of pregnancies result in life threatening complications. The 1st trimester abortions you frequently speak of are for convenience.

reply from: fetalisa

If you don't have the right to use my kidney without my consent, how does a ZEF have the right to use a uterus without consent?
The same is true if you take my kidney in order that you can continue to live. Yet, you do not have the right to take my kidney without my consent, even though you will die without it. If you don't have that right (and legally you do not), how can a ZEF have that right?

reply from: BossMomma

If you don't have the right to use my kidney without my consent, how does a ZEF have the right to use a uterus without consent?
The same is true if you take my kidney in order that you can continue to live. Yet, you do not have the right to take my kidney without my consent, even though you will die without it. If you don't have that right (and legally you do not), how can a ZEF have that right?
Uh, possibly because you invited that ZEF into your body by copulating? You created that child, it's not like it just invaded you. Pregnancy is a natural function, not a parasitic invasion. If you didn't want to share your organs you should not have created an innocent child that would need you.

reply from: fetalisa

That does not negate the fact that your right to life stops at the point where my body begins.

reply from: bozo

Maybe because a "ZEF" is not taking any of your organs? Correct me if I'm wrong but after the woman delivers the ZEF (which instantly changes into a "baby" at birth) she still has the same amount of organs.
If I took one of your kindeys, you'd have one less kidney, wouldn't you? And I would have to take it by force, wouldn't I? In what way is the "zef" forcing you to do something?
Another difference is that the "zef" is created from within BY YOU, so it's not some insidious invader.
Another distinction is that you are the momma and the zef is your child, and why would any mother want to want to claim her child has no right to live rent free for a few months, and instead would evict it and causing certain death?
And don't come back with the non sentience it's-nothing-more-than-a-cabbage-head garbage, because if you are using the kidney argument and rights arguments, etc., you are conceding personhood, otherwise the argument would make no sense.

reply from: fetalisa

You don't have the legal right to use or take my organs without my consent. You could run your blood through my body, such that my kidneys cleanse your blood, but you can't do even that without my consent.
Our courts have ruled we have the right to destroy that which we created, as the following case easily demonstrates with respect to embryos:
http://www.christiantelegraph.com/issue3452.html

reply from: BossMomma

You don't have the legal right to use or take my organs without my consent. You could run your blood through my body, such that my kidneys cleanse your blood, but you can't do even that without my consent.
Our courts have ruled we have the right to destroy that which we created, as the following case easily demonstrates with respect to embryos:
http://www.christiantelegraph.com/issue3452.html
Our courts once gave men the right to dictate your life, were they right then? Basing your debate on legality will get you about as far as basing it on sentience.

reply from: fetalisa

Then enligthen me. What horrific and terrible harm results from either of killing a ZEF via abortion, or killing a frozen embryo via thawing? Given that mindless, non-sentient ZEFs are killed in both cases, what horrific and terrible consequences result from such killing, other than the fact a mindless, non-sentient ZEF loses its life, when it doesn't possess enough awareness to even know it had a life to begin with?
How is killing a mindless, non-sentient ZEF any different than killing a minldess, non-sentient cabbage, and why is it legal in the case of the cabbage, but shouldn't be legal in the case of a ZEF?

reply from: BossMomma

Then enligthen me. What horrific and terrible harm results from either of killing a ZEF via abortion, or killing a frozen embryo via thawing? Given that mindless, non-sentient ZEFs are killed in both cases, what horrific and terrible consequences result from such killing, other than the fact a mindless, non-sentient ZEF loses its life, when it doesn't possess enough awareness to even know it had a life to begin with?
How is killing a mindless, non-sentient ZEF any different than killing a minldess, non-sentient cabbage, and why is it legal in the case of the cabbage, but shouldn't be legal in the case of a ZEF?
A human being is killed, that is the harm. How many times must I answer your stupid question before it sinks in?

reply from: leftsfoil

I have proof to back up what I say. All one need do is click on the links I cite and READ.
If you need my kidney and will die without it, do you have the right to take and use my kidney without my CONSENT? On what moral principle(s) can you justify the right to FORCE ME TO DONATE MY ORGANS TO YOU without my CONSENT, if you will die without my kidney?
Or does your right to life stop at the point where my body begins, even if it means you will die without the use of my body?
You sound like a complete lunatic.
First, you brush me off by telling me to go read your links. As if I'm going to spend hours and hours combing through your painful drivel to find your random links. This is not an answer, it's an insult. You have proven yourself to be either unwilling or incapable of honest debate. Your big complaint was that I was not willing to engage you in a rational discussion on the abortion issue so what seems to be the problem, Miss Know-it-all?
Secondly, you launch intro this bazaar rant about your kidneys as if you were responding to some voices in your head. Very disturbing to read.
I knew I was wasting my time with you but I thought I'd do you the courtesy of trying.
You must know that many forum readers are following this thread and your refusal to cooperate, under your own terms, is making you look both belligerent and incompetent.
I can only conclude that you are either insane or blind or both. I have no further interest in your opinions.
P.S. Believe it or not, I do not hate you.. but I do pity you and I feel lucky that I don't have to suffer like you.


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