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Does Leroy Carhart deserve to be called "doctor" Carhart?

Right now it's 10 "NO" to 8 "yes"

by: CDC700

Depends on what context. having obtained a PHD, he earned the title Dr. Other that, I wouldn't consider him a doctor at all.

reply from: Banned Member

He is a doctor. He went to med school, graduated, completed his internship & his residency. That makes him a doctor. Just like Obama is the President. You may not like it but it is a fact. You're the one always arguing semantics, Yoda, why don't you look the word doctor up in the dictionary. See if Carhart fits.
Man it didn't take you guys long to spew hate speech toward him. I bet you're just itching for him to get shot next.

reply from: lukesmom

What's the matter with you Yoda. Abortion "doctors" have a diploma and all the credentials even if they have no morals or humanity. They rank right up there with:
Dr. Josef Mengele
Dr. Michael Swango
Dr. John Bodkins Adams
Dr. Harold Shipman
Dr George Tiller
Dr David Gunn
Dr Barnett Slepian
Good company and all have a diploma and took human life deliberately. Not the accepted definition of a doctor.

reply from: yoda

Apparently you missed the word "deserve" in the question.
I'm not raising any question about his credentials, the question is about whether he deserves the respect accorded by the title "doctor" (which is way beyond having a medical degree). I say that he does not.

reply from: yoda

Exactly. And I would not address any of those on your list as "doctor", no matter how many degrees and licenses they have.
There is a certain amount of respect that goes along with that title, and I will not grant them that respect.

reply from: Faramir

Does he deserve to be called "Carhart" or "Leroy"?
Does President Obama deserve to be called "President"?
Does yodavater deserve to be called yodavater in spite of making so many mindless polls designed to be digs, and for wasting this time instead of helping the unborn?
Hmm...this must be pondered.
My pondering leads me to the possibility that the question is flawed.
For example, does chocolate ice cream "deserve" the color "brown"?
That would not be a valid question, since it's an error to presume a color can be "deserved," such as to be "worthy" of a particular color.
I think we need to rephrase the original question: "Does Leroy Carhart have the necessary quailifcations to be called "doctor"?

reply from: yoda

Yes.
He deserves to be called "President Abortion".
Start your own poll on that question, jackass.

reply from: Faramir

You are so obsessive.
Why don't you see if a special "bash Carole" sub-forum could be added, and you could really have some fun.
You, faithman, nancyu, and sander, and some others who are not so dedicated but like to pile on for the fun of it sometimes, could have a blast. You could say in the forum title "It's for the babies" and nobody will be the wiser.

reply from: Faramir

But to get back to the question...I cannot answer it, because I believe it is flawed.

reply from: yoda

You're sounding more and more like a proabort every day.......

reply from: Shenanigans

They may be a doctor on paper, but in practice they are anything but. I always just refer to them as an "abortionist", I mean, a doctor who cares for the pregnant mother is an "obstritician", an arse doctor "proctologist", cancer doctor "oncologist", so therefore, a doctor who does abortions "abortionist".
I like words. They're fun.

reply from: faithman

Would babykillerist be OK?

reply from: Shenanigans

Homicidal maniac.
That's semantically correct.

reply from: faithman

Homicidal maniac.
That's semantically correct.
It's a texicans birth rite to massicree the english lagag. But if you want to go tickle a bunch of seamen, thats ok with me.

reply from: Faramir

You're sounding more and more like a proabort every day.......
I've always said that abortion is an injustice, that it kills a human person, and that it should be illegal, and if that sounds like a "pro abort," then I will give you a very good deal on a bridge I own.
Like I suggested previously--see if you can have that special forum made--then you won't need to come up with excuses like these "polls."

reply from: faithman

He certainly has enough to be called a scum bag baby killer!!

reply from: Faramir

Exactly. And I would not address any of those on your list as "doctor", no matter how many degrees and licenses they have.
There is a certain amount of respect that goes along with that title, and I will not grant them that respect.
But if someone else does, they're a "pro abort"?
The definition keeps expanding...

reply from: Banned Member

If you perform abortions you cease to be a doctor and become a murderer.

reply from: sander

He's used his medical degree to murder helpless children, he has earned/deserves the title baby murderer, nothing more, nothing less.
He's shed alot of innocent blood in order to be able to wear that mantel.
Baby Murderer Leroy Carhart...yep, that fits.
So, I guess we can just say, Leroy Carhart, BM

reply from: prochoiceinNY

I bet it must burn the hairs right off your smelly ass to know that he's still a doctor and all your posturing and chest thumping wont change that.
Abortions will continue.
Those of us who have abortions will still refer to these brave men and women as doctor.
You guys have lost!!

reply from: sk1bianca

doctors heal people and try to prolong their lives. carhart kills people. carhart is not a doctor. pretty simple, huh?
by the way, i have a degree in international relations and european studies. i also work in a print shop. so NO, right now i am NOT an international relations specialist (i'll never be. i don't like it any more). i am a printer operator.
carhart will become a doctor when he will stop killing and start healing.

reply from: faithman

He is a babykillerist. May haps soon an ex-babykillerist.

reply from: sweet

Doctors heal.
murderers KILL.
i would NOT go to him if i were deathly ill!!

reply from: faithman

Kinda makes you wonder how many women he made deathly ill when killing thier baby?

reply from: Banned Member

Why is that, Rick? Are you or one of your minions planning a trip to Nebraska soon?
You just can't help yourself from making threats, huh? Consider this reported.

reply from: faithman

Why is that, Rick? Are you or one of your minions planning a trip to Nebraska soon?
You just can't help yourself from making threats, huh? Consider this reported.
What threat? Is it a threat to hope a babykillerist would retire? I just am not particular as to the mode of retirement!! [I know, consider this post reported]

reply from: yoda

Technically, that doesn't make them a proabort.... but it does raise some rather strong suspicions, yes.

reply from: prochoiceinNY

I rest my case.....
And I bet it just irks you sooooooooooooooooooooo much that there are heaps of us calling these brave men and women doctors. What is it, 4000 of us a day?

reply from: yoda

You mean the number of babies killed by abortion every day in America?
Yeah, that's about it.......

reply from: prochoiceinNY

You mean the number of babies killed by abortion every day in America?
Yeah, that's about it.......
No babies.
Just POC that have overstayed their welcome.

reply from: sander

You mean the number of babies killed by abortion every day in America?
Yeah, that's about it.......
No babies.
Just POC that have overstayed their welcome.
I was beginning to think it was best to ignore such a vile troll such as yourself, however, you're showing the true colors of all proaborts, thus serving a rather useful function here at Pro-Life America.
I give you credit for being honest in your bigotry and sheer hate for the children that can't defend themselves.
You're a perfect example of proaborts and all that is really in their stinking, black hearts.

reply from: lukesmom

Yeh, killing voiceless, helpless, preborn human babies is brave beyond measure. Such courage astounds me!

reply from: Faramir

Technically, that doesn't make them a proabort.... but it does raise some rather strong suspicions, yes.
You've developed your own standards of prolife "polictal correctness" and if someone says something that violates them, they're "under suspicion."
Why not go to the heart of the matter, instead of looking for ways to be exclusive over things that are not essential?
If I think an abortion doctor deserves to be called "doctor" (and note that I said "if"), but see abortion as an injustice, the death of a person, and something that should be forbidden by law, why not accept me as a pro-lifer and be happy about the 99.9% that we have in common?
Fine if you want to disagree about the doctor thing, and maybe I could be persuaded to see it your way ("if" we are in disagreement), but not fine if you want to use it to discredit me, and insinuate I am not pro-life because of it.

reply from: sander

Yeh, killing voiceless, helpless, preborn human babies is brave beyond measure. Such courage astounds me!
You're so right, Lukesmom, it takes massive amounts of courage to stand up against a tiny baby, search the little person out and go in for the kill.

reply from: Shenanigans

Yeh, killing voiceless, helpless, preborn human babies is brave beyond measure. Such courage astounds me!
You're so right, Lukesmom, it takes massive amounts of courage to stand up against a tiny baby, search the little person out and go in for the kill.
I dunno, those tiny blobs can get quite rough, I saw the one the other day and it had a pair of knuckle dusters and a lead pipe. I for one was very scared.

reply from: CDC700

You mean the number of babies killed by abortion every day in America?
Yeah, that's about it.......
No babies.
Just POC that have overstayed their welcome.

reply from: prochoiceinNY

Rather be a semen dumpster then a fetus dumpster.

reply from: sk1bianca

rather be a slut then a mother... what a lovely person you are...

reply from: sander

She does represent the baby killing side rather well. She's a prime example of their mentality.

reply from: yoda

Your "thought process" is rather stunning.
You think that you can deny the accuracy of dictionary definitions, and in the same sentence use a derogatory term that has no relevance to the biological identity of unborn human beings, and be taken seriously.
Have you suffered a brain injury or something like that?

reply from: yoda

Why would I care what you agree with me about and what you don't? You seem to make a special effort to disagree with just about everything I post, so that hardly seems significant to me.

reply from: Banned Member

Somewhere in that tiny brain you have to know you are full of shyte. I guess if I follow your logic than all pro-lifers are murderous, psychotic, terrorists, huh. You want to take the most extreme of a group & apply it to all, so can I.

reply from: yoda

ALL proaborts support KILLING innocent human beings.
NO prolifers do. VERY FEW prolifers even support killing GUILTY human beings.

reply from: 4choice4all

No...we support killing fetuses...sheesh, why is that so hard to keep straight?

reply from: Faramir

Why would I care what you agree with me about and what you don't? You seem to make a special effort to disagree with just about everything I post, so that hardly seems significant to me.
Now I'm in a pickle...
Oh well...for the record..I agree with most of your posts..I just don't respond to those.

reply from: yoda

Because you LIE SO MUCH, MAYBE????????
Dictionary.com ba·by (bb) n. pl. ba·bies 2. An unborn child; a fetus. http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=baby
iNFOPLEASE.com ba.by pronunciation: (bA'bE), -n. 5. a human fetus. http://www.infoplease.com/ipd/A0330371.html

reply from: yoda

Of course not, that would be supportive of my efforts, and you certainly aren't going to do anything like that.....

reply from: 4choice4all

You say potato, I say potahto...you say tomato, I say tomahto...let's call the whole thing off!

reply from: yoda

NOT when you use the word "potahto" to support the KILLING OF UNBORN HUMAN BABIES........
And then RUN away from your nasty little lies.......

reply from: sander

Somewhere in that tiny brain you have to know you are full of shyte. I guess if I follow your logic than all pro-lifers are murderous, psychotic, terrorists, huh. You want to take the most extreme of a group & apply it to all, so can I.
As if you jackasses don't already do that.
Who the h do you think you're kidding, moron.
You vile creatures set yourselves up for ridicule and scrutiny by coming here, you're all glutons for punishment with a side of self loathing.
Don't worry, it's to be expected...after all, you vile little snits support and or participate in the murder of children. What the hell else do you think normal, warm blooded human beings with actual hearts and souls are going to think of you people.
Go cry me a river, you freaks.

reply from: Rosalie

Somewhere in that tiny brain you have to know you are full of shyte. I guess if I follow your logic than all pro-lifers are murderous, psychotic, terrorists, huh. You want to take the most extreme of a group & apply it to all, so can I.
As if you jackasses don't already do that.
Who the h do you think you're kidding, moron.
You vile creatures set yourselves up for ridicule and scrutiny by coming here, you're all glutons for punishment with a side of self loathing.
Don't worry, it's to be expected...after all, you vile little snits support and or participate in the murder of children. What the hell else do you think normal, warm blooded human beings with actual hearts and souls are going to think of you people.
Go cry me a river, you freaks.
Your maturity is truly astounding.
But by all means keep proving what kind of a person you truly are.
Disgusting.

reply from: faithman

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reply from: 4choice4all

More drivel from Sander.....no substance, no shocker.

reply from: faithman

http://maafa21.com/

reply from: Shenanigans

Some people are both, just look at Madonna.

reply from: Shenanigans

Haha! Great minds think alike! I just posted the same thing in another thread!!

reply from: yoda

This particular proabort seems to be a hit and run troll...... throwing out a handful of lies, and then running away. In other words, a typical proabort.

reply from: sander

No substance? This coming from someone who thinks human beings aren't beings....now, THAT'S RICH!
Further....coming from someone who can't back her asanine belief with any crediable source, just made up stories and more lies.
You're a crack up, 4c.

reply from: yoda

This one seems content to let her lies fall to the ground and wither... she makes no effort to support anything she says. It's almost like she doesn't care that no one believes a word she says, she just enjoys telling the lies.

reply from: sander

This one seems content to let her lies fall to the ground and wither... she makes no effort to support anything she says. It's almost like she doesn't care that no one believes a word she says, she just enjoys telling the lies.
Well, considering she follows the father of all lies...it makes perfect sense.

reply from: nancyu

You mean the number of babies killed by abortion every day in America?
Yeah, that's about it.......
No babies.
Just POC that have overstayed their welcome.
I can think of one POS who has overstayed her welcome before making her second post...

reply from: Skippy

There are a lot of people who call themselves pro-life that support killing fetuses too, under certain circumstances. They just prefer to call it a baby.
Polls show that roughly two-thirds of those who identify as "pro-life" believe that abortion should be legal in the cases of rape and incest. That is, they support the killing of healthy fetuses growing inside healthy women, because of the circumstances of conception.
I wonder how those hard-liners that wouldn't allow any abortions at all feel about their brethren that believe canceling rape fetuses is okay.

reply from: yoda

Keep on reading those polls, skippy..... they just keep getting better all the time.... the honest ones, that is.....

reply from: yoda

Actually, it's 7 yes to 6 no. And that tells me that I've touched a nerve, and you proaborts have recruited allies to come and skew the results.
That is encouraging, thanks.

reply from: sander

Like I said, the vast majority of proaborts have no qualms with being dis-honest.

reply from: ProInformed

Well since he's a dangerously illegal abortionist, who has already killed one woman, IF the so-called 'pro-choice/pro-woman' crowd really were concerned about protecting women from illegal abortionists, he wouldn't still be a doctor, would he?
I guess just because so many chanting choicist females are bimbonic Roe-bots, the abortion industry has assumed that ALL females are that dumb, eh? NOT!
The abortion industry's lie that they wanted abortion to be legal to supposedly protect women from dangerous and/or illegal abortionists is slipping and becoming more see-through. MOST women are NOT bimbonic Roe-bots and are not buying that lie BECAUSE the abortion industry lobby groups reveal their lack of concern for the safety and lives of women when dangerous abortionists are defended.

reply from: faithman

That you are a pro-death murderous scum bag, and defender of babykillerist. But of course we already knew that.

reply from: Yuuki

If you earned the degree, you deserve the title.

reply from: yoda

Yeah, I guess Farty would've insisted that we call Hitler "Chancellor Hitler".

reply from: yoda

There is a lot more to being a doctor than having a degree.
How about Joseph Mengele, would you insist that we call him "Doctor Mengele"?

reply from: ProInformed

Well then why don't choicists refer to the illegal abortionists pre-Roe as 'doctors'?
MOST illegal abortions were pre-Roe were done by licensed doctors, who had the abortion patients come in through the back door (hence the term 'back-alley-abortionists').
So why aren't you criticizing the choicists who refuse to call those abortionists "doctors", eh?
Oh, and just because the abortion industry advertises that their clinics/abortionists are 'safe & legal' that doesn't magically guarantee that the clinics/abortionists are properly licensed, following safety and cleanliness standards, not breaking any laws, and haven't injured or killed women. There have been plenty of times such 'safe & legal' clinics and abortionists have been caught operating without licenses. When an abortionist gets in trouble for injuring or killing a patient he knows he can count on the abortion industry to defend him, and to even provide him with employment doing abortions even if his medical license has been suspended. Also, when a doctor gets in trouble in his regular practice he knows he can turn to doing abortions because at abortion clinics the patients typically are not informed of who the abortionist is, let alone whether or not his medical license is still valid. AND the choicists who hire and cover up for a dangerous, illegal, and UNLICENSED abortionist will continue to call him "doctor" even if his medical license has been revoked, endangering women who trust the assurances that they supposedly only hire 'safe' and licensed doctors.
You see yuuki,
to those of us who really are concerned about the lives, safety, and rights of women,
the important thing is not demanding that dangerous, illegal abortionists,
who have had their medical license suspended or revoked,
OR abortionists who scoff at the laws, endanger women, and have even killed a patient AND ONLY still have their medical license because the powerful and wealthy abortion industry lobby groups defend and cover-up for them,
are called "doctor"...
The important thing is whether women have a right to be warned that such abortionists are dangerous,
whether or not they have a medical license that has been suspended, revoked,
or ONLY retained with the help of choicist activist groups.
Oh and BTW, regardless of whether or not an abortionist has a medical license in good standing, whether or not he has injured or killed patients,
MOST people, not just pro-lifers,
refer to abortionists as abortionists rather than "doctors".
Even MOST medical professionals think of performing abortions as something distasteful, something they don't want to dirty their own hands with.
Is being called an "abortionist" an insult?
Well it should be.
BECAUSE killing innocent unborn babies IS a despicably cowardly, dirty, dishonorable line of work.
Does calling prental hitmen "doctors", even the abortionists who still do have an untarnished medical license (RARE!), make them 'safe & legal', does that protect women? NO!!!
So when it comes to the ego of a male abortionist vs the life, safety, and rights of female patients, AND the LIVES of thousands of innocent babies who are KILLED by prenatal hitmen per day, do I give a rat's a$$ that a male abortionist might feel insulted if he's not called "doctor"? Nope.
Let's see, on one side we have the LIVES of women and babies...
on the other we have the ego of a handful of male prenatal hitmen...
Um - not seeing the supposed 'pro-woman' thing the choicists claim as their motive.

reply from: Faramir

Yuuki is entitled to her opinion in response to this "poll" (which was really just another excuse to make a personal attack), without it being insinuated that it somehow means that she doesn't care about women. That's ridiculous.

reply from: ProInformed

Hey, if YOU want to have the opinion that assuring female patients of the 'safety' of 'doctors' who are abortionists who have a suspended or revoked medical license, or a medical license they've retained only because abortion industry lobbyists and lawyers have helped cover up for them and keep them in business while they've operated illegally and dangerously, is somehow a reflection of a genuine concern for women, that's just your opinion.
I have a different opinion BECAUSE I care much, much, much more about really protecting women (and babies) than about coddling the ego of male abortionists who might feel offended if they aren't referred to as "doctor".
MY opinion is that women should not be falsely assured that dangerous and illegally operating abortionists are supposedly 'safe & legal' "doctors".
In MY opinion the lives, health and safety of female patients trumps the male ego.
(Um maybe as a male you disagree?)

reply from: Faramir

The only opinion I was sharing was that if someone thinks an abortionist "deserves" to be called "doctor" it doesn't mean they are a "pro abort," that they hate women or want them endangered, or necessarily anything negative.

reply from: faithman

...and in like spirit.... you kill the baby you deserve the title....... Babykillerist.

reply from: ProInformed

If somebody claims that an illegally and dangerously operating abortionist,
who has already killed one woman who trusted the false assurances that he was 'safe & legal', who only still has his medical license because the abortion industry and corrupt pro-abort politicians have protected and defended him...
should be referred to as "doctor", then they obviously care much more about that abortionist being able to pass himself off as respectable, safe, and legal than they do about the women who are endangered when they trust their LIVES to him!
Hey, anytime you want to start caring more about those women than you do about the abortionists then you can join me in trying to wanr women about how dangerous such abortionists are.
Until then stop pretending you care about the women when you whine about the way pro-lifers refuse to call such aboritonists "doctor".
YOU choose to post complaints about pro-lifers not calling abortionists "doctors"
INSTEAD OF posting warnings that women should not trust such dangerously illegally operating abortionists, so stop whining when the logical conclusion is then made that you care more about what the abortinist is called than about the women he endangers.
Do you really think the friends and relatives of the women these dangerous quacks kill call them "doctors"?
Roe v Wade was supposedly going to put those dangerous abortionists out of business, but it didn't because choicers help keep them in business no matter how bad they are. And you choose to chastise pro-lifers who refuse to call such dangeorus quacks "doctor"?
AND, as I noted before, MOST people, and even MOST doctors, do not consider abortionists to really be worthy of the title and respect of "doctor". It is not at all uncommon for MOST people, not just pro-lifers, to refer to them as "abortionist" rather than "doctor".
MOST people realize that abortionists are really just prenatal hitmen,
killing innocent babies mostly because the babies' parents don't want to have sex responsibly.
BTW I have never met a real pro-lifer IRL who insisted that abortionists be called "doctor" - only the choicists I've met insisted on that.

reply from: Faramir

I never stated my opinion about it. I never complained about a pro-lifer refusing to call an abortionist "doctor."
I sait it was unfair of you to disparage yuuki for stating her own opinion. HER opinion doens't make her a "pretnda" or a "pro-abort."

reply from: ProInformed

Um faramir, what percentage of your posts are actually about protecting women and babies from being injured and killed by abortionists, compared to 'protecting' choicists from supposedly being severely offended by the mere words that pro-lifers post?
Even if THOUSANDS of pro-lifers posted in this forum today, calling abortionists abortionists and baby killers instead of "doctors", IMHO it would still be much more justified to post in defense of the THOUSANDS of babies who will be killed by prenatal hitmen by the end of this day than to post in defense of those who complain when we don't call those killers "doctors".

reply from: faithman

...and in like spirit.... you kill the baby you deserve the title....... Babykillerist.

reply from: yoda

He has no time for that.... he has his priorities, you know.

reply from: yoda

There is a lot more to being a doctor than having a degree.
How about Joseph Mengele, would you insist that we call him "Doctor Mengele"?

reply from: ProInformed

What such "doctors" do for a living:
http://www.blackgenocide.org/Tiller/tiller.htm

The cowardly choicist cultists won't have the courage to click on the link.

reply from: Faramir

There is a lot more to being a doctor than having a degree.
How about Joseph Mengele, would you insist that we call him "Doctor Mengele"?
You need to do a better job of discerning what people ACTUALLY say and do a lot less "interpolating."
She didn't "insist" anyone call anyone doctor.
She said, "if you earned the degree, you deserve the title."
Nowhere in that statement is she saying you or I must call someone by a particular title.
She answered your question, and didn't dodge it, and you've responded to something she DIDN'T say, which is not unusual for you, btw.

reply from: yoda

And NOWHERE in my post did I claim that she did, I simply asked her (not you) that question. You're really an idiot sometimes, you know?

reply from: Faramir

And NOWHERE in my post did I claim that she did, I simply asked her (not you) that question. You're really an idiot sometimes, you know?
You implied that in your question.
And yes, I'm well aware that I'm an idiot sometimes, but this was not one of those times.

reply from: yoda

You're letting your imagination run away with you again...... and your paranoia. Get help.


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