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Is Leroy Carhart a "baby killer"?

Right now it's 8 "YES" and 3 "no" or "don't call him that anyway"

by: yoda

Just how far must we go to be kind to baby killers?
Must we help them hide their shame? Is it wrong to even suggest that they ought to be ashamed? Is "shame" a hateful thing, a bad thing? Is it better to be shameless?

reply from: yoda

Bump for fartymere, Yukki, and Carole........

reply from: carolemarie

He is an abortion provider. I didn't see that on your list.
Or a doctor who performs abortions...
Dr. Cathart
or even an abortionist,
those are all factual names, I vote for one of them

reply from: GodsLaw4Us2Live

This is a silly post. Of course he's a baby-killer. He gets paid to kill babies. His job is to get rid of babies. Why should it even be necessary to debate the subject?

reply from: jid

Wheres the option that would be the actual answer? You know... the one that states that no 'babies' are being killed? No? Too obvious?
Perhaps I should start a poll: What is 2+2?
a. 1
b. 2
c. 3
d. 5
e. There's no such thing as 2..

reply from: GodsLaw4Us2Live

Something is being killed and I'm pretty sure it's that baby mom and dad don't want.

reply from: Teresa18

http://orphanarmy.com/wp-content/hell-yes.gif

reply from: CDC700

Something is being killed and I'm pretty sure it's that baby mom and dad don't want.
Stick to Law, science and nature are not your forte.

reply from: sander

That sums it up for me too, Teresa.

reply from: yoda

What is "non-factual" about the term "baby killer"?

reply from: yoda

Because we have posters like Carole, Yuuki, and Fartimir here.

reply from: prochoiceinNY

If he's such an evil baby killer, why isn't he behind bars?

reply from: sk1bianca

abortion kills babies. carhart does abortions. carhart is a baby killer.
and he's not in jail because some jerks decided that it's ok to kill babies who didn't pass through the magic birth canal which transforms them, in a matter of minutes, from fetal tissue into human beings worthy of protection.

reply from: CDC700

That's a great question! I am glad you agree that he belongs in prison. See, you are coming around already!

reply from: jid

"Stick to Law, science and nature are not your forte. "
An honours degree in Human Genetics and a year spent working in the field of embryology says otherwise...

reply from: yoda

jid, what do you get when you give a fool an education? (answer: an educated fool).

reply from: yoda

It is stunning and shocking to me that there is even a need to discuss this.
What sort of person denies that one who kills babies is a baby killer?

reply from: prochoiceinNY

That's a great question! I am glad you agree that he belongs in prison. See, you are coming around already!
I'll tell you rabid morons why he's not in jail, its because he's preforming a legal surgical procedure to women who want one. If you idiots want to call that blob a "baby" so be it, but the law say's you're wrong so haha, we win!

reply from: yoda

What kind of person would call everyone who uses a dictionary "idiots"?
Hint: one who is a bigger idiot!
MSN-Encarta Online: ba·by noun (plural ba·bies) 2. unborn child: a child that is still in the womb http://dictionary.msn.com/find/entry.asp?search=baby
Dictionary.com ba·by (bb) n. pl. ba·bies 2. An unborn child; a fetus. http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=baby
iNFOPLEASE.com ba.by pronunciation: (bA'bE), -n. 5. a human fetus. http://www.infoplease.com/ipd/A0330371.html
INTELLIHEALTH: "Month 2: Measures 14-20mm from crown to rump. The baby's heart, although not fully formed, begins to beat and is visible. Medical content reviewed by the Faculty of the Harvard Medical School. Last updated August 14, 2004.
http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH?t=25666&p=~br,RNM|~st,331|~r,WSRNM000|~b,*|

reply from: prochoiceinNY

Some dictionaries would say "gay" just means "happy", does that mean all "gay" people are just "happy". Words will change their meaning.
The dictionaries you're using will eventually catch up with the law and address the meaning of those blobs as fetuses or whatever those mindless specs are.

reply from: sk1bianca

don't you dare trust those lying dictionaries, yoda! they want to control your body!
this is a http://wendyusuallywanders.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/blob.jpg. this is a http://deliberateengagement.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/fetus.jpg.
basic biology seems a bit too much for some of us...

reply from: yoda

It's called "multiple word meanings", and it's a very tricky concept for those not familiar with the process called "thinking".
Dictionaries don't follow the "law", they follow the way people use words.
And YOU are nothing more than a "blob" yourself, since you are of the same species as unborn humans. Can we abort you?

reply from: yoda

Ya know, I see a pattern here........ proaborts as a group hate dictionaries, almost as much as they hate babies.

reply from: prochoiceinNY

Well, at the end of the day, your little dictionary isn't going to save the "babies". Roe still stands and always will, your little online word jumbles won't change that.
Yeah, I'm a blob, but I'm a thinking, self-aware blob! And you can't abort me because I'm a born person recognized by the law as such!

reply from: yoda

"True"?
Is a person who hires a hit man the "true killer", and the hit man innocent?
You talk like you've been run over by a truck, spitwaddy.

reply from: sk1bianca

tiller was aborted.
yes, it is illegal to abort you, so we'll just rip you apart with a coathanger, ok?

reply from: prochoiceinNY

Supply and demand at work!!

reply from: yoda

Is that your way of saying "Yes, you're right, and I'm a fool"?
I don't know about that "thinking" part........
Your extreme hatred of unborn humans is quite strange, since you probably were one not long ago......

reply from: yoda

And the HIT MAN........ is a murderer also, correct?
Why are you so protective of hit men?

reply from: prochoiceinNY

They're probably like those homosexuals who are really homophobic to hide the fact they're homosexual. She probably gets online and rants and raves about the "unborn babies" and how we have to save the precious "babies" then next day she's got her feet up exposed to a doctor getting her womb suctioned!!
Come on now with the language -
Moderator

reply from: prochoiceinNY

Its my way of saying you let a few words in a book dictate your life.
Oh, how cute! A joke about my maturity!

reply from: yoda

I don't know...... it's hard to read through all your personal attacks on Pro.
Did you say something like that?

reply from: yoda

Acknowledging the actual meaning of a word is "dictating your life"?
You must think that your life consists of lying about the meaning of words then, right?

reply from: yoda

Yeah, hiring someone to kill your baby is a real "privilege", isn't it?

reply from: prochoiceinNY

I heard they make buttons for her kind of "pro-lifer" - "don't like abortion? well, I don't and I still had one... three actually".

reply from: yoda

1. Carhart isn't posting here. 2. The man has CHOSEN to earn his living by killing babies. Pro never sunk that low, but you have.
He's killed THOUSANDS of babies at HIS "discretion", and you've supported those killings.
And you're never regretted a one, have you?

reply from: yoda

And yet, you are such an enthusiastic salesperson for it........ how is that?

reply from: prochoiceinNY

My life consists of working, catching up with good friends, going to bars, getting laid, having abortions and annoying idiot fundies online. Its a hard lot, but someone has to do it.

reply from: yoda

That's a total lie, and you know it.
You encourage people to do something that you say you're never done.
You encourage people to kill their own children.

reply from: yoda

And the mafia would never have killed one single person if no one had hired them to do it.
So, that makes the mafia a moral organization, right?

reply from: jid

Well, just to entertain you, I'd rather be an educated fool than an uneducated and ignorant one...
A dictionary gives examples of how a word is used or applied, it does not define the thing itself... Like I said, it's not a coincidence that dictionaries are not used to settle debate.

reply from: faithman

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
When the Mafia is busted for murder, the person who took out the hit goes down for murder as well.
If what Carhart does is murder, then proInformed is a murderer as well.
...and she has admitted such... Mercy is applied to those who have truely repented, forsaken, and turned the other way. Justice is for scum bag punks who promote, indulge, and take great glee in Evil.

reply from: yoda

No kidding?
So, when abortion becomes illegal again, abortionists will go to jail?

reply from: yoda

Your very presence is an encouragement to abort.

reply from: yoda

It appears your wish has been granted.
As a word twister, you've got a lot to learn. "Usage and application" IS what defines words. That IS the meaning of words. There is NO distinction between what a word means, and how it is used.
When have you ever seen a debate "settled"?
And yes, we know, you proaborts use your imagination to decide what words mean, and shy away from any dictionaries, because you cannot twist them to your liking. I'll bet I could stampede a whole crowd of proaborts by holding up Webster's in front of them. People would probably get killed in the stampede.

reply from: yoda

And when abortion becomes illegal again, women will have to obey the law or take the consequences. Same with abortionists, and all their toadies.

reply from: sander

And when abortion becomes illegal again, women will have to obey the law or take the consequences. Same with abortionists, and all their toadies.
And what a wonderful day that will be.
A striped suit will be an improvement for spitwad.
But, it is nice to see spitwad agree the women who march their very own babies into the killing fields will get theirs too.

reply from: faithman

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<~
Where did you get that idea?
Susan Smith is remorseful, but she still gets to do her time.
Heck, no one had repented more that Karla Faye Tucker, and Texas was more than happy to kill her ass.
Sometimes we pay for our wrong doings in the temperal time zone. Mercy begins in the thrown room of God. Carla Faye was ready to meet her God. She pick axed a couple to death while they slept, just for drug money. Some crimes require the land to be purged from the evil done. She had 14 years of mercy, and used the time to lead many to Christ. Texas finds no joy in dispatching evil doers. It is a matter of justice for the innocent.

reply from: sander

It is a matter of justice for the innocent.
Sorry Faithman, that's such a foreign concept to the rabid, violent proaborts on this site that the words must read like a foreign language. The concept is just unable to penetrate their puny minds.

reply from: yoda

And they've already burned all their dictionaries, so.........

reply from: sander

And they've already burned all their dictionaries, so.........
They'll "burn" anything that gets in the way of killing the babies.
Only with abortion are dictionaries suddenly the bane of existence.

reply from: faithman

...and they must fight it tooth and toenail, other wise they would meet the terror in this world, they will most assuredly face in the next!!! Once upon a time, we were a nation of liberty [set free from evil], and had the freedom to do what is right. Now we are a country that proclaims evil is a right. WE THE PEOPLE of America are guilty of the innocent blood of millions. WE THE PEOPLE have failed the promise of our founding to secure the Blessing of life from God for our posterity. WE THE PEOPLE must tell them the government, that enough is enough. But I fear that WE THE PEOPLE are no longer the land of the free, and the home of the brave. We have given up our inherited freedom for secular humanist pottage, and are no longer brave enough to take this to what ever level is nessisary to stop it, but shiver in cowardice, behind "leaders" full of self promotion, and an agenda of self presivation. We have folks who took an oath to preserve the constitution, and yet protect the enemies within hell bent on distroying it.

reply from: faithman

Please send the above post to the FBI. They are shameless bullies and cowards, and are nothing more than attack dogs protecting baby killers.

reply from: CharlesD

We call small humans babies. We call a person who kills something a killer. Baby killer seems line a factually accurate statement.

reply from: ProInformed

So you don't think abortion kills babies?

reply from: ProInformed

That's a great question! I am glad you agree that he belongs in prison. See, you are coming around already!
I'll tell you rabid morons why he's not in jail, its because he's preforming a legal surgical procedure to women who want one. If you idiots want to call that blob a "baby" so be it, but the law say's you're wrong so haha, we win!
Oh MY are you stupid!
You really don't know that the abortion industry and its lobby groups defend and cover-up for dangerous and illegal abortionists, do you?
Abortionists who've lost their medical license,
or who never had one in the first place,
abortionists who've molested, raped, and killed patients,
even abortionists who have already killed a dozen women at their clinics,
abortionists who WERE the 'back-alley-butchers' before Roe v Wade,
abortionists who are breaking laws now,
and abortionists who admit they'll do illegal abortions when Roe is overturned,
are ALL defended and covered-up for by the abortion industry and so-called 'pro-choice' groups.
And naive chanting choicists like you have no clue do you?
You think abortion is 'safe & legal' don't you?
Check out the REAL CHOICE website and get a clue:
http://realchoice.blogspot.com/

reply from: faithman

http://www.lifedynamics.com/Abortion_Information/Pro-life_Product/maafa.cfm

reply from: yoda

So you don't think abortion kills babies?
If she does, she doesn't want us to remind the abortionists of that.... it might upset them, you know?

reply from: Faramir

What would be the intent of the person calling him a "baby killer"?
Would it be with the hopes it will save a baby every time the title is bestowed?
Would it be to use "baby killer" in every context? For example, if you delivered a newspaper to him, would you say, "Here's your newspaper, babykiller" ?
Would it be with the hopes that if he hears that name he will realize he is doing something wrong, repent, and become pro-life because of it?
Should it still be used instead of his real name, even if the person using it is doing so because he needs to demean someone else to feel better about his sorry self, and is thereby exploiting the unborn?
This question cannot be easily answered. More information is necessary, please.

reply from: 4choice4all

Calling people baby killers is actually very useful. It immediately lets us know which of the pl'ers are crazy nutbags...easier to profile.

reply from: yoda

He kills babies.
For anyone who gives a damn about babies, that is quite enough to know.

reply from: yoda

Yeah, you proaborts are big on "profiling" people, aren't you?

reply from: faithman

http://www.lifedynamics.com/Abortion_Information/Pro-life_Product/maafa.cfm

reply from: sweet

what has this world come to...when grown men and women no longer know that ripping a baby apart IS KILLING?! and the person who does it IS a KILLER!!
*shakes head in sorrow*

reply from: sander

Is it not just absolutley stunning that these rabid, very violent proaborts here refuse to acknowledge the OBVIOUS?
Why, we even have a so called prolifer who won't dare upset the proaborts by using any term that she deems negative towards the baby killers and their accomplices.
That's bordering on "woe unto those who call evil good and good evil". But, that is what the world is coming to; evil is called good and good is called evil.

reply from: Faramir

Is it not just absolutley stunning that these rabid, very violent proaborts here refuse to acknowledge the OBVIOUS?
Why, we even have a so called prolifer who won't dare upset the proaborts by using any term that she deems negative towards the baby killers and their accomplices.
That's bordering on "woe unto those who call evil good and good evil". But, that is what the world is coming to; evil is called good and good is called evil.
My, how sad it is that you have gone beyond mindless crabbiness and self-righteousness, and have added lying and misprepresentation to your arsenal.

reply from: Faramir

It is stunning and shocking to me that there is even a need to discuss this.
What sort of person denies that one who kills babies is a baby killer?
There is no prolifer here who has denied that.

reply from: faithman

It is stunning and shocking to me that there is even a need to discuss this.
What sort of person denies that one who kills babies is a baby killer?
There is no prolifer here who has denied that.
Then why do you get your little boy panties in a knot when that fact is expressed?

reply from: Faramir

It is stunning and shocking to me that there is even a need to discuss this.
What sort of person denies that one who kills babies is a baby killer?
There is no prolifer here who has denied that.
Then why do you get your little boy panties in a knot when that fact is expressed?
LOL
This thread is nothing more than one of a long series of petty personal attacks, using a "poll" as an excuse to turn as many as possible against another pro-life member of this forum.
It's sad that so much effort is made to undermine someone who does actual pro-life work.

reply from: faithman

It is stunning and shocking to me that there is even a need to discuss this.
What sort of person denies that one who kills babies is a baby killer?
There is no prolifer here who has denied that.
Then why do you get your little boy panties in a knot when that fact is expressed?
LOL
This thread is nothing more than one of a long series of petty personal attacks, using a "poll" as an excuse to turn as many as possible against another pro-life member of this forum.
It's sad that so much effort is made to undermine someone who does actual pro-life work.
...and just what pro-life work do you do? Besides whine that is....

reply from: yoda

There certainly are a couple of them who have denied that we have the moral right to express that truth in public. And you are one of them.

reply from: yoda

LOL.
What's wrong, are the FMan's questions so hard that all you can answer is "LOL"?
Did he leave you speechless for once?

reply from: sander

LOL.
What's wrong, are the FMan's questions so hard that all you can answer is "LOL"?
Did he leave you speechless for once?
The forever fart was speechless....dang, I missed it!

reply from: Faramir

There certainly are a couple of them who have denied that we have the moral right to express that truth in public. And you are one of them.
I'm one of them?
That's news to me. I don't recall saying a word denying your moral right to express that in public.

reply from: Rosalie

Really? So someone removed him from another born person's body? How exactly did they do that?
Well, at least you don't even bother to pretend that you are smart.

reply from: sk1bianca

it's called sarcasm. not that you'd understand...

reply from: Rosalie

Please go back to school or at least open some damn book and learn what sarcasm is. This ... wasn't it.

reply from: sk1bianca

sar?casm
??/?s?rkæz?m/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [sahr-kaz-uhm]
- noun
1. harsh or bitter derision or irony.
2. a sharply ironical taunt; sneering or cutting remark: a review full of sarcasms.
Origin:
1570 - 80; < LL sarcasmus < Gk sarkasmós, deriv. of sarkázein to rend (flesh), sneer; see sarco-
Synonyms:
1. sardonicism, bitterness, ridicule. See irony 1 . 2. jeer.

reply from: faithman

Really? So someone removed him from another born person's body? How exactly did they do that?
Well, at least you don't even bother to pretend that you are smart.
...and you have no problem at all showing you are a dumbass death scanc. S1B has you beat in every catagory. She is twice the woman, and at least 3 times smarter than you are. Tiller the ex-babykillerist , will never suck the brains from another healthy viable child. That was his stock and trade, no matter how much you death scancs want to cover that little inconveniant fact up. He also didn't mind killing a few women along the way.

reply from: Rosalie

Really? So someone removed him from another born person's body? How exactly did they do that?
Well, at least you don't even bother to pretend that you are smart.
...and you have no problem at all showing you are a dumbass death scanc. S1B has you beat in every catagory. She is twice the woman, and at least 3 times smarter than you are. Tiller the ex-babykillerist , will never suck the brains from another healthy viable child. That was his stock and trade, no matter how much you death scancs want to cover that little inconveniant fact up. He also didn't mind killing a few women along the way.
Your sociopathic drivel gets more and more amusing by the second.

reply from: faithman

Really? So someone removed him from another born person's body? How exactly did they do that?
Well, at least you don't even bother to pretend that you are smart.
...and you have no problem at all showing you are a dumbass death scanc. S1B has you beat in every catagory. She is twice the woman, and at least 3 times smarter than you are. Tiller the ex-babykillerist , will never suck the brains from another healthy viable child. That was his stock and trade, no matter how much you death scancs want to cover that little inconveniant fact up. He also didn't mind killing a few women along the way.
Your sociopathic drivel gets more and more amusing by the second.
And the deathscanc sick puppy doodies again. Some little things just can't be poopy trained.

reply from: sk1bianca

being called a sociopath by rosalie must be a real compliment...

reply from: sander

She's very bothered by all the truth being exposed today...guess we should feel sorry for the poor twisted freak...she's on sensory overload.

reply from: yoda

Wait, you're saying you don't object to our use of that term now?

reply from: faithman

Wait, you're saying you don't object to our use of that term now?
Sick puppies just can't help chasing their own tails. Would explain the dizzyness.....

reply from: yoda

Yeah, that would mean he disagrees with his sweetie, and I don't foresee that happening anytime soon......

reply from: Faramir

Wait, you're saying you don't object to our use of that term now?
I haven't said anything either way.
I've asked questions about when and where the term would be used.
I certainly never denied your right to say it.

reply from: Faramir

LOL.
What's wrong, are the FMan's questions so hard that all you can answer is "LOL"?
Did he leave you speechless for once?
No, I made an additional response, but you "forgot" to include it when you copied my post.
Here's the entire post:
Note that when you selectively take a small amount of words out of context, it's quite easy to distort the original intent and to misprepresent someone.
You wouldn't want to do that anymore would you?

reply from: yoda

You certainly made it appear as if you were doing that.... and being a carbon copy of carolemarie, it just naturally follows that you would echo her....
And now, you're trying to be "non-committal"?

reply from: yoda

That's because the "rest of it" was nothing more than another nasty personal attack from you. It had zero to do with the question asked you.
Here it is again, just to give you another chance to make another personal attack:
"Then why do you get your little boy panties in a knot when that fact is expressed?"


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