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I have returned!

It's time for me to forgive and forget and give some of you another chance.

by: Faramir

I'm leaving the board today and would like to say so long to those with whom I made friends, and to those with whom I have had a cordial relationship.
I've learned much from many of you, and I thank you for that experience.
In recent days it has become apparent to me what the board owner wants this board to be, and now that I finally understand it, I see that I'm not compatible with that philosophy, and that there is no hope of the atmosphere changing to anything resembling what I would consider to be civil or meaningful.
There is much hatefulness and abusiveness, and that the unborn are exploited as an excuse to express that, is very repugnant to me. More offensive still is that it is often done in the name of the Bible or Jesus, which borders on being blasphemous.
The last straw was the unchecked gleeful posts about the Tiller murder, and the hopes for more of the same.
None of this is what I understand "pro-life" to be, and is certainly far from being Christian behavior, and I want to clearly separate myself from this particular "brand" of pro-lifer.
I understand that there are some good, kind, compassionate, and reasonable pro-lifers here, but the others dominate, and they make this place so unpleasant that I frankly can no longer stand to breathe the air here.
I have expressed similar concerns in the past, and the response was an invitation to leave, and today I accept that invitation.
I apologize for those times when I did not behave as a Catholic gentleman should, and have no hard feelings toward anyone here.
And I am one step ahead of the warnings that would be sure to follow, and have my eye on that doorknob.
Adios amigos, and may we all meet again in a happier time and place.
(This is my last post and will be logging out for good in a couple days, after I check final PMs).

reply from: 4choice4all

In my short time here it became apparent that you were not cut from the same cloth as many of the professing prolifers. I wish you would stay and fight the good fight but understand that they believe it's a game and one you don't want to play.
pm for you

reply from: GodsLaw4Us2Live

Gosh Faramir, I believe Faithman is making terrorist threats and should be locked up. If he is the one encouraging other's to take action with a 12 gauge shotgun there should be some law that puts him behind bars for at least a few months.
I disagree strongly with those encouraging violence.
While I doubt Tiller's final judgment will have a good outcome for him, it is possible he may receive eternal life after the second resurrection.
He was causing a lot of damage to our brothers and sisters now and it is a good thing that neither he or his clinic are functioning any more.
I look forward to the Kingdom of God where all will walk lawfully, respectfully and peacefully. May as many as are destined to receive eternal life share abundant vibrant growing everlasting life!
May we all be there Faramir.

reply from: Cecilia

it is toxic, but you leaving only lessens the amount of prolifers here who are doing it right.

reply from: JPRice

For all, I know "Mir" means Peace.
Anyway, I only joined last week. I haven't professed violence. I have not read what looks like a big to do here today.
Mir means peace in Serbo-Croatian I believe. I'd know that could have to do with Medjugorje, though I won't speak for that alleged apparition as to whether it is true or not, I know we have our responsibilities to stand up for life. I will ponder Faramir's words and sorry he/she is dissapointed.
I was shocked of hearing of Tiller's death, he is so high profile. I didn't think it would happen, but the downside is, that he would have continued his wrongs, so it's much to contemplate.
This forum though, on a positive has shown me a bit of why there is a divergence of opinion on this. Nah, count me out of any violence. All I can say. Maybe I'll follow.

reply from: Banned Member

I'm sorry to see you go, you were one of the good ones. I don't blame you for wanting to leave. You are such a good person you are unwilling to lower yourself to the same level as those who make a mockery out of your beliefs. I hope that you find a way to live & spread your beliefs that will actually do some good in the world.

reply from: nancyu

So long faramir, Don't hesitate to be a stranger!

reply from: JPRice

But I wonder if Faramir has hit the abortion clinics much, I have in a peaceful way, even just actually saying rosaries in a property adjacent to it or across the street.
I don't criticize others, I don't go over so and so's words so darn close that I find fault with his words.
I was shocked to hear Tiller died and saddened, would have rather there have been a peaceful solution, I just don't shed a lot of tears over him because I know many others have died.

reply from: JPRice

Duplicate Post but with addendum: But I wonder if Faramir has hit the abortion clinics much, I have in a peaceful way, even just actually saying rosaries in a property adjacent to it or across the street.
Duplicate Posts: But Faramir seems to be cozy with Pro-Choicers, okay, fine, but other people are putting out efforts to to stop the horrendous act that a power grab in the Judiciary placed in this country some decades ago.

reply from: JPRice

This is an inflammatory issue just like Civil Rights was, for all the talk of Dr. King, look how you had Malcolm X back then, the Black Panthers. It is not an easy issue. I would not be rash in judging lifers:
http://www.priestsforlife.org/pressreleases/09-06-09-king-carhart.htm

"Dr. Alveda King Calls Comparison of George Tiller to Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. "Offensive beyond Belief"
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact: Margaret, 888-735-3448, ext. 251
Date: June 9, 2009
Atlanta, GA - Dr. Alveda King, Pastoral Associate of Priests for Life and niece of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., today reacted to remarks by late-term abortionist LeRoy Carhart that compared the killing of George Tiller to the assassination of her uncle.
"For LeRoy Carhart to mention the murder of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., who worked through peaceful and non-violent means, in the same breath with that of George Tiller, whose work ended peace and brought violence to babies in the womb, is offensive beyond belief," said Dr. King. "The analogy is just wrong."
"Dr. Carhart also speaks of hate crimes," added Dr. King. "I would simply ask him, is it not hateful to regard an entire class of people as non-human because they're unwanted?"
Fr. Frank Pavone, National Director of Priests for Life, also commented, "The message of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was that every human being has equal dignity. LeRoy Carhart and every other abortionist violate that message every time they dismember a baby. The comparison is ridiculous."
Priests for Life is the nation's largest Catholic pro-life organization dedicated to ending abortion and euthanasia. For more information, visit www.priestsforlife.org."

reply from: Shenanigans

Well, sorry to see you go, Faramir.
As for you "apparent" coziness with the pro-aborts, seesh, people need to get over themsleves, its not like you're holding their shaggy locks back while they get in there with rusty coat hangers and meat hooks to scope out those pesky foeti.

reply from: faithman

sniff sniff....... Take a borthead under each arm on your way out. It would be the only good thing you have done since you have been here. Besides, you have do all this before, and you will be back tomorrow under another name.

reply from: JPRice

The daily mail had this article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1191199/A-moral-civil-war-The-truth-millions-Americans-believe-Dr-Baby-Killer-Tiller-deserved-die.html

That is a bit in the spirit of this thread. Reading around.....

reply from: BossMomma

Take it easy Faramir.

reply from: Darkmoon

So long, Faramir. I'm sorry I joined too late to engage in meaningful debate with you. I hope your family is doing well.

reply from: CDC700

Why a big public announcement? Are you that hard up for attention? Looking for people to beg you to stay? Well, doesn't matter, your posts didn't contain enough meaningful content for me to say I'll notice you are gone. Not pro life, and not pro choice, just a boy in the middle that wants to get along with everyone without taking sides. You will be better off in an environment where the issues at hand are not so severe.

reply from: BossMomma

heh, I do wonder how long it will be before he shows up again on an alternate screen name. He's done it before.

reply from: churchmouse

I beg your pardon? Faramir was never cozy with the pro-aborts position. He always stood up for what he felt was right, especially the Word. I am very upset he is leaving and I sent him a pm begging him to reconsider. Hopefully he will sleep on it and change his mind.
His was a voice of reason someone I personally looked up to. He loves Christ and loves the Word and never backed down to defend it. He just can't leave.
If I knew where he lived I would get a plane ticket and personally go, get on my hands and knees and beg him to stay.
He has been a loving friend and someone I look up to in so many different ways, even when we dissagreed on points he was always nice about it.
FARAMIR PLEASE RECONSIDER.
And faithman you again are a piece of work. You would drop kick your mother to the curb just for a laugh wouldnt you...... You are with out a doubt one of the coldest people I have ever met in my entire life.
I always am amazed at how your hate seems to escalates....it's scary really. Because as I have said before, no telling what you would do in real life to someone who just had a different opinion than you.
You condone so much that is simply ungodly....now the murder of Tiller. I too am glad the clinic is closed and he no longer can murder innocent children, but I do not condone the manner of justice with which this all happend. I pray you never hurt anyone that you are just a big bag of hot air.
Tiller was murdered and God sees it as that. Scott will be brought to justice and Tiller has already been sentenced.
I am and I have stated before that I am very confused about all this. When slavery was legal people resorted to violence to free those held in bondage. Our country went to war over this. Are we all glad this happened or was slavery something that was legal and considered to be moral ok and should be allowed today? Would God see abortion as justice as a righteous act? Our country needs to take another look at abortion legally. The scientific evidence and what we know today about the child in the womb is so much more than they knew in 1973. Roe was based on a lie. What happened with slavery.....could it also happen with abortion? Should those living in this nation of laws supposedly there to protect the innocent once again take action as a whole?
No nation under God should condone abortion and we do that today. Something has got to happen or we will self destruct as I believe would have happened had we not abolished slavery. We kill our children.....that is even worse than slavery in Gods eyes. We will pay as a nation and even today that is happening. look at the economy etc.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)
I truely believe this. Good must overcome evil. Abortion is not good it is evil.
JPRice thanks for the article. A few comments....
The article stated, "Among those startled by the balloon-like popping sound was the doctor's wife, Jeanne, who was preparing to sing in the choir, one of her great joys."
And how she could sleep with a man who was covered in blood is beyond me. A man whose hands tore open the heads of unborn babies on a daily basis. I would just love to ask her if that is joy. The blood money they put into the offering each week.......is sickening.
The article said, "Both, in their way, were devoutly religious and both were utterly convinced that when it came to their views on abortion, God was on their side; both pursued their ideologies with relentless single-mindedness.'
Neither one of them knew the Word or lived it. In fact both raped the Word in word and actions. God does not condone murder. God does not condone abortion but he does not condone murder like Scott did either.
The article states, "So Dr Tiller becomes the ninth abortion doctor or clinical worker to be murdered by fanatics who purport to cherish human life during the past 15 years; a statistic that shames the Land of the Free."
A statistic so low that its unbelievable considering the number of abortion clinics and abortionists there are in this country.
The article should have said, "since Roe was passed," instead of "the past 15 years." Nine since since 1973. I would say that pro-lifers are very very tolerant and peaceful.
How long have you been here on this site? Only since April. I am glad you are here !!!!!
Faramir has been debating for way over a year now and has been a fixture here. He has been an advocate for the unborn and he has done it for the most part with class, something that many pro-lifers here dont have at times *( me included). Many resort to name calling and filthy language, that was not Faramir. He also stood up for his faith and I respected him for that.
He is not looking for attention but is sick of the progression this site has taken towards allowing hateful posts and attacks against people. You were not here when many attacked another poster in the most hateful ways imaginable. It was horrible. This sites management allowed this to happen when they should have stepped in and taken control. This is supposed to be a site that is pro-life and one that shares testimonies and imformation about abortion with those who come to share and learn.
Faramir is not looking for attention. For your information he was pro-life and I think it is sad that you would say this only having been here since April and with only 200 posts. There is nothing wrong with trying to get along with people. Faramir was PRO-LIFE...he certainy did not sit the fence.
He just cant leave.

reply from: yoda

Wow, that would be the kiss of death for a real prolifer. For Fara, it's just par for the course.
BTW Cecilia, does the elective killing of an innocent human being constitute an act of control over the life of that individual?

reply from: yoda

Yet another kiss of death......

reply from: yoda

Yes, she is. But you're not.

reply from: yoda

That was just a minor matter. Much more offensive was his constant zeal in attacking others who are trying to defend the unborn. That was a real downer.

reply from: yoda

Yeah, that's what I suspect too.

reply from: nancyu

Yes, she is. But you're not.
Aww thanks, Yoda. It's true what they say -- it takes one to know one.

reply from: yoda

Okay, let's start a pool on what day Fara will start posting again... under any name. I pick June 12th. Ante is a hundred bucks.

reply from: CDC700

I think he may be here already, under the name assrammed or whatever it was....

reply from: yoda

Yeah, that sounds like a name he would use.......

reply from: CDC700

*spritzer*
Damn, you keep handing out drinks and I am going to need to borrow that wheelchair!

reply from: 4given

*spritzer*
Damn, you keep handing out drinks and I am going to need to borrow that wheelchair!
Hey you can have at it.. except I am sure you value your limbs! I know I do!

reply from: churchmouse

I will tell you this much......I'm not leavin.
I look around and see much evil on this board. People that don't respect the unborn, people that make fun and threaten others even if it's for fun. It's one thing to debate and politely disagree but a totally different thing when vile and crude remarks, threats are dished out all in the name of Christianity. To think some of these so called Christian imposters have scripture as their signatures makes me sick.
Satan is alive and well and He does not like people who believe in Christ surrounding him, influencing his people.
You won't run me off, I am standing up for what I believe is the truth, what I believe is right. You don't scare me one bit. Threaten me all you want, laugh...make fun, ridicule me.......I DO NOT CARE. I have someone who has my back no matter where I go. I am not alone and am in for the long haul, standing up for the unborn and more importantly standing up for Christ.

reply from: Shenanigans

Why? Did you fart?
In case you didn't notice, I put the word "apparent" in inverted commas because others have claimed him to be cozy. I do not view having discussions with the borts as being cozy.

reply from: CDC700

First of all, I have respect for you and I enjoy reading MOST of your posts. The same can not be said of faramir. Secondly, I had my opinions years ago, long before I had ever seen this forum. For you to imply that I can't form an opinion of someone because of my "registration date" or my "post count" is ridiculous. If faramir was so dedicated to his cause, he wouldn't be running away because he doesn't like something. That is weak! if anyone judges their own self worth based on their active participation on an internet forum, they need to seek help. Abortion is a serious issue, and you are either for it or against it. There is no middle ground when it comes to abortion. Everyone here is a person, each with their own ideas and values. If you can't deal with an opposition to your own thoughts, an internet forum on abortion is the wrong place to log into. For that reason I think he is doing the right thing by leaving. This whole thread was an attention grab, if he was leaving and just wanted to say goodbye to his "friends" he would have done that using the PM function. I see this as a juvenile ego boosting popularity check and you have played right into it. So there you have it load up your "I have 1619 posts and know better than you" cannon and fire away. I'm ready.

reply from: faithman

First of all, I have respect for you and I enjoy reading MOST of your posts. The same can not be said of faramir. Secondly, I had my opinions years ago, long before I had ever seen this forum. For you to imply that I can't form an opinion of someone because of my "registration date" or my "post count" is ridiculous. If faramir was so dedicated to his cause, he wouldn't be running away because he doesn't like something. That is weak! if anyone judges their own self worth based on their active participation on an internet forum, they need to seek help. Abortion is a serious issue, and you are either for it or against it. There is no middle ground when it comes to abortion. Everyone here is a person, each with their own ideas and values. If you can't deal with an opposition to your own thoughts, an internet forum on abortion is the wrong place to log into. For that reason I think he is doing the right thing by leaving. This whole thread was an attention grab, if he was leaving and just wanted to say goodbye to his "friends" he would have done that using the PM function. I see this as a juvenile ego boosting popularity check and you have played right into it. So there you have it load up your "I have 1619 posts and know better than you" cannon and fire away. I'm ready.
Snicker.... My cannon is bigger than your cannon. NA NA NANA NA......

reply from: faithman

How many days since farty's last post?

reply from: CDC700

So by asking that question, you are really saying you want to murder people. You should be reported to the FBI immediately!

reply from: faithman

So by asking that question, you are really saying you want to murder people. You should be reported to the FBI immediately!
I am sure that a faithful borthead already has. But who had 2 days in the pool? I sured didn't think farty would last this long. Poor dear has been lurking though. He will have to jump in and defend a death scanc at some point though. He can't help himself. Would it be far to use a farty call? KOOOM-BAAA-YAAAA my lord KOOO BAAA YAAAA [some one pass another smorez]

reply from: CDC700

So by asking that question, you are really saying you want to murder people. You should be reported to the FBI immediately!
I am sure that a faithful borthead already has. But who had 2 days in the pool? I sured didn't think farty would last this long. Poor dear has been lurking though. He will have to jump in and defend a death scanc at some point though. He can't help himself. Would it be far to use a farty call? KOOOM-BAAA-YAAAA my lord KOOO BAAA YAAAA [some one pass another smorez]
I'm telling you, he's already been on here.

reply from: faithman

So by asking that question, you are really saying you want to murder people. You should be reported to the FBI immediately!
I am sure that a faithful borthead already has. But who had 2 days in the pool? I sured didn't think farty would last this long. Poor dear has been lurking though. He will have to jump in and defend a death scanc at some point though. He can't help himself. Would it be far to use a farty call? KOOOM-BAAA-YAAAA my lord KOOO BAAA YAAAA [some one pass another smorez]
I'm telling you, he's already been on here.
assburn did have a familiar smell.

reply from: yoda

And he did get his ass burned quite a few times........

reply from: faithman

AAAAAHHHHH the smell of burning butt nuggett!!!

reply from: iCelebr8Life

GodsLaw, your post really touched me. I see your charity.

reply from: iCelebr8Life

I beg your pardon? Faramir was never cozy with the pro-aborts position. He always stood up for what he felt was right, especially the Word. I am very upset he is leaving and I sent him a pm begging him to reconsider. Hopefully he will sleep on it and change his mind.
His was a voice of reason someone I personally looked up to. He loves Christ and loves the Word and never backed down to defend it. He just can't leave.
If I knew where he lived I would get a plane ticket and personally go, get on my hands and knees and beg him to stay.
He has been a loving friend and someone I look up to in so many different ways, even when we dissagreed on points he was always nice about it.
FARAMIR PLEASE RECONSIDER.
And faithman you again are a piece of work. You would drop kick your mother to the curb just for a laugh wouldnt you...... You are with out a doubt one of the coldest people I have ever met in my entire life.
I always am amazed at how your hate seems to escalates....it's scary really. Because as I have said before, no telling what you would do in real life to someone who just had a different opinion than you.
You condone so much that is simply ungodly....now the murder of Tiller. I too am glad the clinic is closed and he no longer can murder innocent children, but I do not condone the manner of justice with which this all happend. I pray you never hurt anyone that you are just a big bag of hot air.
Tiller was murdered and God sees it as that. Scott will be brought to justice and Tiller has already been sentenced.
I am and I have stated before that I am very confused about all this. When slavery was legal people resorted to violence to free those held in bondage. Our country went to war over this. Are we all glad this happened or was slavery something that was legal and considered to be moral ok and should be allowed today? Would God see abortion as justice as a righteous act? Our country needs to take another look at abortion legally. The scientific evidence and what we know today about the child in the womb is so much more than they knew in 1973. Roe was based on a lie. What happened with slavery.....could it also happen with abortion? Should those living in this nation of laws supposedly there to protect the innocent once again take action as a whole?
No nation under God should condone abortion and we do that today. Something has got to happen or we will self destruct as I believe would have happened had we not abolished slavery. We kill our children.....that is even worse than slavery in Gods eyes. We will pay as a nation and even today that is happening. look at the economy etc.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)
I truely believe this. Good must overcome evil. Abortion is not good it is evil.
JPRice thanks for the article. A few comments....
The article stated, "Among those startled by the balloon-like popping sound was the doctor's wife, Jeanne, who was preparing to sing in the choir, one of her great joys."
And how she could sleep with a man who was covered in blood is beyond me. A man whose hands tore open the heads of unborn babies on a daily basis. I would just love to ask her if that is joy. The blood money they put into the offering each week.......is sickening.
The article said, "Both, in their way, were devoutly religious and both were utterly convinced that when it came to their views on abortion, God was on their side; both pursued their ideologies with relentless single-mindedness.'
Neither one of them knew the Word or lived it. In fact both raped the Word in word and actions. God does not condone murder. God does not condone abortion but he does not condone murder like Scott did either.
The article states, "So Dr Tiller becomes the ninth abortion doctor or clinical worker to be murdered by fanatics who purport to cherish human life during the past 15 years; a statistic that shames the Land of the Free."
A statistic so low that its unbelievable considering the number of abortion clinics and abortionists there are in this country.
The article should have said, "since Roe was passed," instead of "the past 15 years." Nine since since 1973. I would say that pro-lifers are very very tolerant and peaceful.
How long have you been here on this site? Only since April. I am glad you are here !!!!!
Faramir has been debating for way over a year now and has been a fixture here. He has been an advocate for the unborn and he has done it for the most part with class, something that many pro-lifers here dont have at times *( me included). Many resort to name calling and filthy language, that was not Faramir. He also stood up for his faith and I respected him for that.
He is not looking for attention but is sick of the progression this site has taken towards allowing hateful posts and attacks against people. You were not here when many attacked another poster in the most hateful ways imaginable. It was horrible. This sites management allowed this to happen when they should have stepped in and taken control. This is supposed to be a site that is pro-life and one that shares testimonies and imformation about abortion with those who come to share and learn.
Faramir is not looking for attention. For your information he was pro-life and I think it is sad that you would say this only having been here since April and with only 200 posts. There is nothing wrong with trying to get along with people. Faramir was PRO-LIFE...he certainy did not sit the fence.
He just cant leave.
Churchmouse, you are such a sweet soul, passionate. compassionate, why do you want to stay here? To be a light the mean-spirited ones? I just returned from a retreat after two weeks and the nastiness is really rampant since Tiller's death and they ( the nasty ones) delight in it and suggest people leave if they (nice ones) cannot take it. I think that's their way (the nasty ones) to dare them (the kind ones) to stay because they (nasty ones) need them (kind ones). They really seem to enjoy poking fun.

reply from: faithman

YEAH!!! All you nasty folks should be ashamed. You need to join all us nice folks who wished Tiller was still sucking the brains out of womb children skulls. Mean ole nasties!!!!....... what?

reply from: faithman

The kind people who have given us this free forum, have poured their very lives, and treasure into a powerful documentary called MAAFA 21. I believe the cost is going to be $20. Please seriously consider buying a copy, as well as sending what you can for copies to others. Life talk had several clips from it, and from just what I saw, It will be one of the most powerful projects in pro-life history. Do what you can. We owe MC3 so much, and could never hope to repay his kindness and suport for IAAP. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE consider this request, and do what you can for this project.

reply from: iCelebr8Life

not advocating vigilante executions of abortion doctors and not calling peaceful pro-lifers nasty names does not make us wish tiller was doing abortions you silly troll. You call yourself FAITHMAN? Yours is not the same Gospel given by Christ or Paul. Christ said to love and pray for your enemies, and to love the bretheren. Faramir is a brother in the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ. How can you claim to love God when you treat a Christian brother the way you do? You do not speak the truth in love. You are not a Christian. I have never seen you claim to be a Christian, you do quote the scripture, and so did the devil. What are the fruits of your spirit? Sowing discord among the bretheren. Rejoicing in human vengeance? Your soul is sick and your faith is not in Christ.
Whether Faithman is an enemy or a wayward brother, God knows, and we followers of Christ are called to pray for him.

reply from: yoda

And you know this how...............??
Oh wait, it's because you ARE fartnomore!!

reply from: iCelebr8Life

And you Yoda, who is Lord of your life?

reply from: BossMomma

So by asking that question, you are really saying you want to murder people. You should be reported to the FBI immediately!
I am sure that a faithful borthead already has. But who had 2 days in the pool? I sured didn't think farty would last this long. Poor dear has been lurking though. He will have to jump in and defend a death scanc at some point though. He can't help himself. Would it be far to use a farty call? KOOOM-BAAA-YAAAA my lord KOOO BAAA YAAAA [some one pass another smorez]
Faithboy I know you don't realise it but, you ARE a borthead. You are death Scum, you are a pro-death scanc as you like to call our pro-choice member. You condone the arbitrary killing of those you deem unworthy of life. Get off your soap box you foaming at the mouth sac of monkey spunk. You are as bad as Tiller and every other "abortionist" you like to b*tch about. YOU ARE NOT PRO-LIFE.

reply from: yoda

I am agnostic, as if you didn't know, fartnomore.

reply from: iCelebr8Life

I had zero idea you were agnostic. Do you really think I am Farimir? Or that he is me? Are you and Faithman one and the same? Or Nancyu? Just because we behave in a similar fashion doesn't mean we are the same person.
As you don't avow Christ, I rebuke you not and I pray for you. I can understand how you might think that prayer is a waste and ineffectual in the war against abortion. Your disdain for Farimir and myself and others like us is understandable.
As Faithman has appeared to be a believer in the Word, I have rebuked him.
I am agnostic, as if you didn't know, fartnomore.

reply from: yoda

Your appearance here at just the time of his "departure" did raise that suspicion, yes. I really don't believe for a minute that he will refrain from posting here, he seems to need a platform from which to pontificate.
Well I haven't meet either of them in person, so all I can tell you is that I don't post under their names, but thanks for the compliments!
That's okay, I get plenty of "rebukes" anyway, just not religious ones. And I certainly have not made any comments on the power of prayer, so don't try to read my mind. The term agnostic means "I don't know", more or less, and that's how I feel about religion in general and prayer in particular. And I welcome all sincere efforts to end legal abortion, no matter how ineffective I may think they are. It's the thought that counts.
Yeah, and I'll bet he's totally torn up about that. You really ought to be as kind to him as you are to the proaborts, don't you think?

reply from: iCelebr8Life

A rebuke to a Christian brother is considered an act of kindness and love. I am sorry if I hurt his feelings. I really didn't intend that.
q]Originally posted by: yodavater
Your appearance here at just the time of his "departure" did raise that suspicion, yes. I really don't believe for a minute that he will refrain from posting here, he seems to need a platform from which to pontificate.
Well I haven't meet either of them in person, so all I can tell you is that I don't post under their names, but thanks for the compliments!
That's okay, I get plenty of "rebukes" anyway, just not religious ones. And I certainly have not made any comments on the power of prayer, so don't try to read my mind. The term agnostic means "I don't know", more or less, and that's how I feel about religion in general and prayer in particular. And I welcome all sincere efforts to end legal abortion, no matter how ineffective I may think they are. It's the thought that counts.
Yeah, and I'll bet he's totally torn up about that. You really ought to be as kind to him as you are to the proaborts, don't you think?

reply from: nancyu

LLLLLLLLLLOL!!!!!!ICSL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OMSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OSISI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OIGTPMP!!!!!!!

reply from: yoda

That post is really, really farty, isn't it?

reply from: churchmouse

The kind people you say? Who?
You mean Crutcher and his administration?
I do not in anyway question his passion for the unborn and he has done incredible work in this field. His book Lime 5 is simply amazing. But the fact that they let people like you color this site with hatred, against post abortive woman and for those who do not condone violence, is inexcusable and Concerned hit the nail on the head about this in his post.
You are not here for the unborn, I once thought you were. You are here to demean those you do not think are pro-choice. You claim you are a Christian but then you call people names you do not show Christ like love whatsoever. You will not address what Christ says about love, nor will you mention any scripture that backs up your hatred. And I know why......there isn't any.
Christ loved Paul and he was a murderer. He changed his heart and chose him to preach the Word to the unsaved. He loved the thief on the cross enough to save him when he asked. Christ is love, but He is also a God of justice and He will pour out His Wrath against the unrighteous.
He gave us free will and He wants us to come to Him because we love Him. The fact that he forgave me for the abortion I had just blows my mind, because I did not deserve to be saved. And if He could forgive me.....for this henious act He can forgive a Tiller or anyother human that asks. Tiller was murdered and it ended all chances for him to be saved if he was not already. I highly doubt that he was because his actions and fruits did not show it. But Scott separated himself from Christ for that very second that he pulled the trigger. It was not Gods hand that helped on that rifle it was Satans. And he will answer to God.
Abortion is a violent act of aggression on an innocent human life. I cringe and sometimes cry when I think of it. I do what I can do for this cause and I put the rest in God hands. He is of course in control. Why dont you do the same and give it all to God. He will take your rage away if you ask Him. He would not condone violence, He commands us to love. None of us have mastered that....we all fall short, but we should make the effort.

reply from: faithman

The kind people who have given us this free forum, have poured their very lives, and treasure into a powerful documentary called MAAFA 21. I believe the cost is going to be $20. Please seriously consider buying a copy, as well as sending what you can for copies to others. Life talk had several clips from it, and from just what I saw, It will be one of the most powerful projects in pro-life history. Do what you can. We owe MC3 so much, and could never hope to repay his kindness and suport for IAAP. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE consider this request, and do what you can for this project.

reply from: iCelebr8Life

You really, really think I am Farimir? You are joking, right? SO you don't have to pay out on the bet...or are you serious?
Why would Farimir post under another name? Why doesn't he just post like he has been?
Do you think Farimir would invet a youtube channel and make videos just to hide his new persona? I was offline for two weeks while on retreat and I came back and Farimir gives his farewell, I can see how at first glance it looks like a conspiracy. Why, I have zero idea. And the youtube channel with original videos is a bit over the top for Farimir, don't you think?

reply from: nancyu

You really, really think I am Farimir? You are joking, right? SO you don't have to pay out on the bet...or are you serious?
Why would Farimir post under another name? Why doesn't he just post like he has been?
Do you think Farimir would invet a youtube channel and make videos just to hide his new persona? I was offline for two weeks while on retreat and I came back and Farimir gives his farewell, I can see how at first glance it looks like a conspiracy. Why, I have zero idea. And the youtube channel with original videos is a bit over the top for Farimir, don't you think?
Nice video Farimir. Your voice is of a slightly higher pitch than I had imagined.
http://www.youtube.com/user/iCelebr8Life

reply from: yoda

I really, really think there is at least a 50-50 chance of it, yes.
He/you have taken on many, many different personas over the past few months, what's one more or less?

reply from: faithman

The kind people who have given us this free forum, have poured their very lives, and treasure into a powerful documentary called MAAFA 21. I believe the cost is going to be $20. Please seriously consider buying a copy, as well as sending what you can for copies to others. Life talk had several clips from it, and from just what I saw, It will be one of the most powerful projects in pro-life history. Do what you can. We owe MC3 so much, and could never hope to repay his kindness and suport for IAAP. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE consider this request, and do what you can for this project.

reply from: iCelebr8Life

I think you and Nancyu are joking with me.
If not, then the two of you are quite prone to conspiracy theories.
Either way, I do find it amusing.

reply from: yoda

That's good, at least you will get a laugh out of being here. That's all Faramir ever got out of his presence here too. And all we ever got out of him.

reply from: faithman

The kind people who have given us this free forum, have poured their very lives, and treasure into a powerful documentary called MAAFA 21. I believe the cost is going to be $20. Please seriously consider buying a copy, as well as sending what you can for copies to others. Life talk had several clips from it, and from just what I saw, It will be one of the most powerful projects in pro-life history. Do what you can. We owe MC3 so much, and could never hope to repay his kindness and suport for IAAP. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE consider this request, and do what you can for this project.

reply from: Shenanigans

I just beelched. It tasted like garlic.
Which is really strange cos I haven't had garlic.

reply from: Yuuki

iCelebr8Life has been posting here for quite a while Yoda, long before Faramir decided to leave. So your theory is nonsense.

reply from: Faramir

OK, a few kind souls implored me not to go, so I've decided to reduce the "forever" aspect of my departure by a few days, and come back today.
I appreciate your support and encouragement very much--you know who you are (all 37 of you).
I realize that I did not have to make a special thread annoucing my coming and going and that it appears to be grandstanding, but I have a weakness--I'm an attention whore, and that was simply a natural way for me to do business.
Hey, nobody is perfect. We have a couple of prolife ladies who flew in here from each coast on their broomsticks, and their faults are overlooked by many, so maybe you could cut me some slack too (though regarding those two--I do have glasses of water handy if they get anywhere near me).
Also, I feel it's time for me to be honest and confess that I do not just post under the name "faramir," but am also the following posters:
churchmouse
4choice4all
concernedparent
shananigans
carolemarie
rushlimbaugh
yuuki
icelebratelife
lukesmom
spinwiddy
I have some problems with message board addiction, and get bored being one personality and having just one point of view, so I developed more characters and made corresponding accounts to keep things interesting.
Nevermind if any of them protest--that will be me as well, continuing to play the game.
Though some of you might have been suspicious of some of them, and perhaps had an idea a couple of them might be me, those doubts were raised by ME, intentionally, throuh another one of my characters.
I have to pat myself on the back for this brilliant touch--casting suspicion on myself and some of my other accounts for the sake of my greatest achievement--a character who appears to be an extremely paranoid and very cranky elderly gentleman (who gets out of the wrong side of bed EVERY day), who thinks black helicopters follow him everywhere, who is suspicious that many prolifers here are well-paid spies for Planned Parenthood, and who continually wrings his hands that so many posters here are really sock puppets of yours truly, out to get him and you.
Yes--you guessed it!
I am also...
yodavater
Well, now that I've gotten all that off my chest, sorry for any confusion and inconvenience and let's go back to having some fun around here.

reply from: faithman

WOW!!!!!! IWIN IWIN!!!! Thanks farty ole pal. I'll use me winnings to buy MAAFA 21 cd's.

reply from: Faramir

No way, dude.
The bet was for the 13th, and where could I see a preview of this documentary?
I'm inclined to buy it, but would like to see a couple of clips first.

reply from: faithman

No way, dude.
The bet was for the 13th, and where could I see a preview of this documentary?
I'm inclined to buy it, but would like to see a couple of clips first.
Watch this months "LIFE TALK". They also are working on a site. I am sure they will post it ASAP. It really is that good.

reply from: sheri

Hi Farimir, They have been lonely without you, have had to content themselves with talk of you and other sweet remembrances.
Glad you returned.

reply from: Faramir

I know. I was keeping an eye on them.
I felt the compassionate thing to do was return.
I'm not a heartless man.

reply from: carolemarie

that was so funny! Welcome back!

reply from: faithman

Gag GAG URP URP URP!!!!!!!!

reply from: 4choice4all

Hosanna! Hosanna!
I told you I would yell it on your triumphant return on the back of an ass.......now get off of Sander.

reply from: Teresa18

Welcome back. It's been awhile.

reply from: Faramir

Yeah, sometimes five days can seem like an eternity.

reply from: yoda

In your dreams, butthole.
Who had today in the pool?

reply from: Banned Member

LMAO! That's Great! Good to have you back, man!!!

reply from: yoda

He never left.
He couldn't leave all his buds, like you.

reply from: ProInformed

The anti-'name-calling' chastisers must have missed this...
they're so busy bashing pro-lifers to take notice?

reply from: ProInformed

Specifically which pro-lifers are you bashing?

reply from: BossMomma

So I'm an original? Cool beans.

reply from: Faramir

Specifically which pro-lifers are you bashing?
There are two "ladies"--and I use the term loosely--on this forum who are the meanest people I've ever encountered online, and who spew hatred in every post, and who don't mind twisting or distorting the truth, if necessary, to stick the knife in and twist it.
They are relentless and cruel, and it's not just in a few posts here or there, but is habitual, and "pro aborts" are not their only targets.
I'm referring to nancyu and sander, but I thought that was obvious.
My board experience here has led me to the shocking revelation that not all prolifers are in this for "the babies," but are exploiting the cause for the sake of their egos and to give themselves a sense of worth, even at the expense of tearing down other pro-lifers.

reply from: yoda

Everything about you is "obvious", you fat headed bag of intestines.

reply from: ProInformed

Specifically which pro-lifers are you bashing?
There are two "ladies"--and I use the term loosely--on this forum who are the meanest people I've ever encountered online, and who spew hatred in every post, and who don't mind twisting or distorting the truth, if necessary, to stick the knife in and twist it.
They are relentless and cruel, and it's not just in a few posts here or there, but is habitual, and "pro aborts" are not their only targets.
I'm referring to nancyu and sander, but I thought that was obvious.
My board experience here has led me to the shocking revelation that not all prolifers are in this for "the babies," but are exploiting the cause for the sake of their egos and to give themselves a sense of worth, even at the expense of tearing down other pro-lifers.
just curious - what do you think of the 'ladylikeness' vs 'witchiness' of some of the other female posters, specifically spinwiddy and rosalie? Has their meanness and spewing of hatred gone unnoticed by you?

reply from: Faramir

I don't expect the opposition to be kind or helpful, and they already take their lumps by the overall board members who think they are fair game for any insult, so they already get a lot more than they give, though I do wish spinwiddy would be kinder to you.
I don't know that Rosalie has said mean things--I'm not familiar with that many of her posts, but one time I shared something on the board about a challenge or struggle in my life, and she was kind enough to send a pm oferring words of encouragement and compassion, so I know she has a heart.
In fairness to sander, she has in the past communicated with me and was very gracious, kind, and humble, and we worked out our differences, and we had some very meaningful exchanges, but I don't know this sander who has come back after being away so long, who has done nothing but make mean remarks.
But nancyu is like ice. I've never seen someone like her, and I sincerely hope it's just a game, and there is a real person behind the screen.

reply from: yoda

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is today's episode of the Fartamir Soap Opera of cattiness and hair pulling...... we now return you to your regularly scheduled posting.


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