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by: ChristianLott2

mothers murdering their own babies.

reply from: BossMomma

Yeah, blame it all on the women when the men wuss out, eh Lott?

reply from: GodsLaw4Us2Live

Yeah, blame it all on the women when the men wuss out, eh Lott?
The Old Testament ends with one of the most important topics possible, a man's responsiblity to his children.
After a reminder to remember the law, the Lord says he will send someone to turn the hearts of the fathers to their children "lest I come and strike the land with a decree of utter destruction."
The Lord has no place for a worthless dad whose heart is not focused on his children.

reply from: BossMomma

Yeah, blame it all on the women when the men wuss out, eh Lott?
The Old Testament ends with one of the most important topics possible, a man's responsiblity to his children.
After a reminder to remember the law, the Lord says he will send someone to turn the hearts of the fathers to their children "lest I come and strike the land with a decree of utter destruction."
The Lord has no place for a worthless dad whose heart is not focused on his children.
Yup, very few people have anything but scorn for a dead beat dad or a manipulative woman but Lott should remember that the one is just as bad as the other and stop just blaming women. Behind 98% of abortions is a man's carelessly sewn seed.

reply from: Faramir

Hey, I'm going to steal that as a signature life for awhile Boss.
That's very good and very true.

reply from: BossMomma

no problem, that's what a Lott of these male protestors ignore. They tell women to keep their legs closed and stop being a whore but I rarely see them admonishing their fellow man to keep his 'equipment' put up till marriage, or call him a whore when he screws around.

reply from: Faramir

no problem, that's what a Lott of these male protestors ignore. They tell women to keep their legs closed and stop being a whore but I rarely see them admonishing their fellow man to keep his 'equipment' put up till marriage, or call him a whore when he screws around.
That's anthor reason that jailing and punishing women is unfair. The number one accomplice and force behind an abortion gets off scott free.

reply from: BossMomma

no problem, that's what a Lott of these male protestors ignore. They tell women to keep their legs closed and stop being a whore but I rarely see them admonishing their fellow man to keep his 'equipment' put up till marriage, or call him a whore when he screws around.
That's anthor reason that jailing and punishing women is unfair. The number one accomplice and force behind an abortion gets off scott free.
Yup, if women are jailed for abortion DNA tests should be done on the aborted fetus to identify and prosecute the biological father as well.

reply from: Shenanigans

So what's behind the other 2%?
But seriously, as soon as a man is determined as being the dad, nail his arse to the wall and grab his wallet.

reply from: nancyu

Yeah, blame it all on the women when the men wuss out, eh Lott?
YES. If a woman murders her own baby you blame it all on her and those that she hires to do it.
If she wants to use someone else as an excuse it ain't gonna wash when it comes to killing her own child.

reply from: nancyu

You people who want to find other people to blame for a murderers acts, you've got problems. Serious logical thought problems.

reply from: nancyu

Try this logical thought problem:
A man is at a store buying liquor when a scancy woman catches his eye. He follows her home and rapes her. Whom do you arrest:
a. The woman for dressing scantily
b. the liquor store owner who sold him liquor
c. his friend who dropped him off at the store on his way to work.
d. the rapist.
e. the liquor manufacturers and all of society who says it's okay to drink and dress scantily.
Answer:
e. the rapist
Because he is the perpetrator of the crime. All the rest are his excuses. If we start buying into the excuses there will be no end to them. Anyone would be a fool to buy into them.
The same is true with abortion. The woman can have a million reasons why, and a million people she can blame, for her being a horrible useless good for nothing person who would kill her own child or pay some one else to do it.

reply from: yoda

What's any of this got to do with the morality of killing babies, weenie?
Would you rather fight the gender war than try to defend babies now?

reply from: yoda

I'm not sure, I think it might be whoever failed to give the rapist some tea and chocolates......

reply from: ChristianLott2

did someone say 'tea and chocolates'? what'daya got to do around here to get some tea and chocolates??

reply from: ChristianLott2

refuse to marry a straw-woman, I got it.

reply from: 4given

Women have the ultimate authority (unless they have forced or coerced) over the life and death of their child. Over the years I have heard from so many men that desired to keep their children, but weren't given the opportunity to. It is a sad thing to try and hurt these men further- especially CL2 and others, just to exact some kind of personal issue... which appears to be the case. Any real man would stand up and fight for their child's life, just as a real woman would.

reply from: Yuuki

She couldn't abort if the man didn't have sex with her. He is 50% responsible. I fully agree that if you want to jail the woman then you need to jail the father, too.

reply from: yoda

That's the stupidest piece of crap you've ever posted here.

reply from: yoda

Kill a baby or two......

reply from: BossMomma

So what's behind the other 2%?
But seriously, as soon as a man is determined as being the dad, nail his arse to the wall and grab his wallet.
Mothers health and fetal deformity/demise.

reply from: BossMomma

but it's perfectly ok for these men to walk around trashing women? They are part of the problem and 9 times out of 10 a man would rather the woman abort than cough up child support or give up their freedom and settle down with the mother. Men say keep your legs closed? At the same time I'll say keep your penis zipped. CL2 will get no pity from me, he could have saved those babies and didn't, he could have at least faked it till she gave birth then took custody.

reply from: Cecilia

She couldn't abort if the man didn't have sex with her. He is 50% responsible. I fully agree that if you want to jail the woman then you need to jail the father, too.
I don't think anyone should be jailed, but in crazy world where women get jailed for abortions, I don't think fathers should at all. Women have the choice not the men.
Just as consent to sex does not mean consent to pregnancy it doesn't mean (for the man) consent to abortion either.
but the biggest reason not to jail the man is that it's really not his choice.

reply from: Cecilia

but it's perfectly ok for these men to walk around trashing women? They are part of the problem and 9 times out of 10 a man would rather the woman abort than cough up child support or give up their freedom and settle down with the mother. Men say keep your legs closed? At the same time I'll say keep your penis zipped. CL2 will get no pity from me, he could have saved those babies and didn't, he could have at least faked it till she gave birth then took custody.
It's not ok, but it is the reality. Women need to be the more responsible gender in their sleeping habits since the consequnces for them are much more profound. life is not fair.

reply from: yoda

Not according to Yukki. She hates all men.

reply from: BossMomma

She couldn't abort if the man didn't have sex with her. He is 50% responsible. I fully agree that if you want to jail the woman then you need to jail the father, too.
I don't think anyone should be jailed, but in crazy world where women get jailed for abortions, I don't think fathers should at all. Women have the choice not the men.
Just as consent to sex does not mean consent to pregnancy it doesn't mean (for the man) consent to abortion either.
but the biggest reason not to jail the man is that it's really not his choice.
So the guys who want abortion criminalized but then go knock some girl up without her concent should get off free and clear? What's good for the goose is good for the gander in my opinion. In reality I don't think anyone should be jailed, but a woman doesn't get herself pregnant and in many instances it is He, not She that makes the choice to abort, She is just forced to carry it out.

reply from: churchmouse

The woman is the one that decides to kill. REmember its her body not the mans. He gave the gift of sperm, that gets him off the hook, so say the people that are pro-abortion.
Then tell us nancy......why did HIll kill an innocent man and wound a woman? yet you condone the violence that Hill did.
Hmmmmmmmm By your logic all the people on your list here should be held responsible.
No he is not. The woman is the one that decised to kill, she is the one that goes through with it. Nothing could happen unless she consents.
Ya see the feminists-pro-abort groups want to have their cake and eat it too. They want to make the abortion decision without help from anyone. They deny the father has any right. But boy if they need money should they decide to have the child.....the man then has to step up to the plate, even if the man wants nothing to do with the baby.
The woman is the one that goes through the abortion. Its here body on the table.
And whether or not the father wants it or not......our law does not recognize his feelings. He is a non-issue.
Cecilia said,
Our law places the decision on the woman. Like I said, the man isnt acknowleged unless he is forced to pay monitarily. He is screwed either way by our justice system.
Any woman knows that pregnancy could occur if she has sex, unless she or he is sterile.
I had a friend who was 48 and got pregnant. She was pre-menopausal. She had been on the pill.......and went a year without a period so stopped. She now has twin boys. Today she is 53 and has two in first grade. LOL
How do you knock someone up without their consent? Unless she was raped......she holds the cards. Its her body remember. She can say.......NO. She takes the risk.

reply from: Cecilia

She couldn't abort if the man didn't have sex with her. He is 50% responsible. I fully agree that if you want to jail the woman then you need to jail the father, too.
I don't think anyone should be jailed, but in crazy world where women get jailed for abortions, I don't think fathers should at all. Women have the choice not the men.
Just as consent to sex does not mean consent to pregnancy it doesn't mean (for the man) consent to abortion either.
but the biggest reason not to jail the man is that it's really not his choice.
So the guys who want abortion criminalized but then go knock some girl up without her concent should get off free and clear? What's good for the goose is good for the gander in my opinion. In reality I don't think anyone should be jailed, but a woman doesn't get herself pregnant and in many instances it is He, not She that makes the choice to abort, She is just forced to carry it out.
I agree no one should be jailed obviously because abortion should remain legal. Life isn't fair; women have to be incredibly responsible with themselves.
But I am prochoice, don't believe that consent to sex means concsent to give birth, so this is isn't my fight.

reply from: nancyu

That's the stupidest piece of crap you've ever posted here.
I agree. And she's posted A LOT of stupid crap.

reply from: Faramir

That's the stupidest piece of crap you've ever posted here.
I agree. And she's posted A LOT of stupid crap.
What's stupid about it?
At least from a moral perspective, the man is usually just as guilty as the woman, and played his part in forcing the abortion decision, especially if outside of marriage.
The woman is jailed and the numero uno accomplice--and the one who likely was irresponsibly sewing his seed goes free. How fair is that?

reply from: Faramir

This analogy FAILS and is not the same as the abortion situation.
The man in-part CREATED the baby. The man put a baby in the woman possibly when he had no intention of doing so and no intention of supporting it. His only intent might have been pleasure, and he was content to leave someone else to suffer the consequences.
Your analogy only works in the cases of women who abort, who somehow did not have a male participant in the act of conception.
And your vicious comments aimed at the post-abortive are obvious and despicable, but by now are expected, since your character, or apparent extreme lack of it, is very evident by your posts. You are a very meanspirited and self-righteous person. It's most despicable because you hide behind a cause and behind babies to give yourself credibility. You are a sanctimonious _____ (fill in the blank). Be assured that you are fooling no one, except possibly the few who are in your club.

reply from: ChristianLott2

yawn. r yall still going on about this stupid crap?

reply from: GodsLaw4Us2Live

She couldn't abort if the man didn't have sex with her. He is 50% responsible. I fully agree that if you want to jail the woman then you need to jail the father, too.
I don't think anyone should be jailed, but in crazy world where women get jailed for abortions, I don't think fathers should at all. Women have the choice not the men.
Just as consent to sex does not mean consent to pregnancy it doesn't mean (for the man) consent to abortion either.
but the biggest reason not to jail the man is that it's really not his choice.
If the woman has an abortion and the man has not publicly proclaimed against abortion and is absent from his financial and other moral obligations to the child the man is guilty of negligent homicide. He should receive the penalty meted out to one who negligently through reckless and intentional disregard causes the death of another.
A one night stand man is like a drunk driving down the road at 90 miles per hour. Both could create a situation that results in the eventual death of another. They should be punished equally. Several years in the big house would be good. Or a date with the executioner. When I read about how a speeding drunk decapitated a young girl through his recklessness, I said, "That guy deserves to be executed". Likewise, the deadbeat dad deserves to be executed.

reply from: yoda

Not much point in it, is there? Weenie wants to castrate all men, and Yukki will be glad to help him. Pregnancy is a direct cause of abortion, and although women have total control over "the decision", if they make the wrong one it's the man's fault.
What else is new?

reply from: Shenanigans

What about Santa? He's a man.

reply from: fetalisa

Abortion isn't murder and a zef is not a baby.
Geez! No wonder society doesn't listen to this nonsense.

reply from: Shenanigans

No kidding.
Murder is defined as illegal killing.
Legal killing, or legally permissable killing is homicide.
Therefore, the death pentalty, abortoin and in some places euthanasia is homicide.
HOmicide is defined as the killing of a human, the zef is human.
Of course not. Baby is a term of development. Just like adolescent and adult. A zygote is not an adult as much as a baby is not a teenager.
Calling it by its correct scientific term does not make the act o fkilling this child any less morally bankrupt.
However, as a child is defined as anyone under the age of 12, including those during gestation, we can call the zef a child.
Society is a mass of uneducated schlebs, a perfect example of what's wrong with America's schooling system. Any society that cannot recognise the humanity and the moral repugnance of killing the unborn has somethign seriously flawed with its intellectual structure.
Shame on you, you naugty pro-choice to kill unborn children person!

reply from: yoda

I think she just mugs him when he steps out of the chimney......

reply from: yoda

Of course not. Baby is a term of development. Just like adolescent and adult. A zygote is not an adult as much as a baby is not a teenager.
Actually, fecal lisa is quite wrong about that........
MSN-Encarta Online: ba·by noun (plural ba·bies) 2. unborn child: a child that is still in the womb http://dictionary.msn.com/find/entry.asp?search=baby
Dictionary.com ba·by (bb) n. pl. ba·bies 2. An unborn child; a fetus. http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=baby
iNFOPLEASE.com ba.by pronunciation: (bA'bE), -n. 5. a human fetus. http://www.infoplease.com/ipd/A0330371.html

reply from: fetalisa

So you PERSONALLY CHOOSE TO BELIEVE that abortion is murder. Go right ahead. None in the rest of our society are obligated to live by what you PERSONALLY CHOOSE TO BELIEVE.
So you PERSONALLY CHOOSE TO BELIEVE that a zef is a child. Go right ahead. None in the rest of our society are obligated to live by what you PERSONALLY CHOOSE TO BELIEVE.
So it's the school system's fault the public does not buy into the forced birth scam? Soceity doesn't buy the slop you are selling because we do not care if you PERSONALLY CHOOSE TO BELIEVE that abortion is murder, Nor do we care if you PERSONALLY CHOOSE TO BELIEVE the unborn are persons.
We recognize the moral repugnance of forcing women to be incubators for no good reason other than what you PERSONALLY CHOOSE TO BELIEVE.
Shame on you for having the arrogance to think you have some right to make decisions for others, when it is not you who must bear the consequences of those decisions.

reply from: yoda

Usually? Do you have numbers on that? A survey, a study? How about those MEN whose partners did not tell them of the pregnancy? Those who beg the woman to allow the child to live, and offer to raise the child him self? Those who offer to marry the woman and raise the child with her?

reply from: churchmouse

You must have missed this question nancy.......
How do you feel about the innocent man Hill killed? And how do you feel about the woman he wounded?
Were these acts also justified?

reply from: Yuuki

She couldn't abort if the man didn't have sex with her. He is 50% responsible. I fully agree that if you want to jail the woman then you need to jail the father, too.
I don't think anyone should be jailed, but in crazy world where women get jailed for abortions, I don't think fathers should at all. Women have the choice not the men.
Just as consent to sex does not mean consent to pregnancy it doesn't mean (for the man) consent to abortion either.
but the biggest reason not to jail the man is that it's really not his choice.
I don't think the father or mother should be jailed either, I was just playing devil's advocate. But seriously, it's so wrong that you see the pro-haters on here screetching that it's a "stupid" idea to make the man accountable, that I "hate all men" because I'd dare say they should be equally responsible for a pregnancy!! Have they forgotten that a sperm is half of a human being's DNA? So he's half responsible.
Yep, they're showing their anti-woman colors... ALL the blame and punishment goes on HER, and NONE on the poor, powerless, innocent man.
He shouldn't have flung his sperm around if he didn't want a baby!!

reply from: nancyu

She couldn't abort if the man didn't have sex with her. He is 50% responsible. I fully agree that if you want to jail the woman then you need to jail the father, too.
I don't think anyone should be jailed, but in crazy world where women get jailed for abortions, I don't think fathers should at all. Women have the choice not the men.
Just as consent to sex does not mean consent to pregnancy it doesn't mean (for the man) consent to abortion either.
but the biggest reason not to jail the man is that it's really not his choice.
I don't think the father or mother should be jailed either, I was just playing devil's advocate. But seriously, it's so wrong that you see the pro-haters on here screetching that it's a "stupid" idea to make the man accountable, that I "hate all men" because I'd dare say they should be equally responsible for a pregnancy!! Have they forgotten that a sperm is half of a human being's DNA? So he's half responsible.
Yep, they're showing their anti-woman colors... ALL the blame and punishment goes on HER, and NONE on the poor, powerless, innocent man.
He shouldn't have flung his sperm around if he didn't want a baby!!
Fool, he is half responsible for creating the baby, that doesn't make him half responsible for killing the baby.

reply from: Faramir

You are the fool for failing to see that men often force the situation by putting women between a rock and hard place.
In those circumstances the man is just as guilty or maybe is much more guilty than the woman.
You would like to focus on just the "good for nothings" who abort for the sake of your superiority trip, but the fact is that each abortion has MANY ACCOMPLICES, not the least of which is the sperm donor.

reply from: nancyu

You are the fool for failing to see that men often force the situation by putting women between a rock and hard place.
In those circumstances the man is just as guilty or maybe is much more guilty than the woman.
You would like to focus on just the "good for nothings" who abort for the sake of your superiority trip, but the fact is that each abortion has MANY ACCOMPLICES, not the least of which is the sperm donor.
You are the fool for suggesting that helping to create a child necessitates destroying the child.

reply from: Faramir

I didn't say that and I don't think that.
But the men are often responsible for forcing the bad choice.

reply from: Faramir

That doesn't mean I agree that it applies in your particular situation.
But I do know that if I made a woman pregnant out of wedlock, and if she aborted, I would feel extremely guilty and responsible.

reply from: churchmouse

And go even further.......who decides what is moral or should be moral?
Do you think morality should change with the times?
Playing devils advocate here..........Morality is dealing with the conscience. And if people can live with abortion.....then why is that wrong? If people can deal with adultry why is it wrong? Stealing?
And in the free and open society we live in.....the age of tolerating everything....who should tell anyone what they are doing is wrong?
She still gives the ok to abort. Sure women might be pressured but, their actions are the ones that matter. Do you think if a woman withholds sex from her husband, and he has an affair, she is to blame? Wrong never changes.
You think God is going to fall for the line......."Well God he forced me to do it, I had no choice?" Every woman has the choice to say otherwise is wrong.
We are responsible for our own actions. We cant pass the buck with this one.
Well you know the sex act would have been wrong to begin with. And you know the law so you know that you sinned. And because of your sin, it splashed and caused more problems and consequences. In the case of abortion, the unborn child would suffer. But the child is not in your body and the laws say you are a non-issue....the woman decides. She is the one that gives consent even though she might not want to do it.

reply from: nancyu

I didn't say that and I don't think that.
But the men are often responsible for forcing the bad choice.
Coercion is another topic. Pay attention.

reply from: yoda

"Often"? And based on your guestimate, you are going to project blame on all men for abortion?
Why not just say that if a man pressures a woman towards abortion, that makes him partially responsible? Why go through this silly crap about a man being responsible for abortion simply because he's the father?
Are you trying to be melodramatic, or do you really not know the difference between impregnating a woman and pressuring her to abort?

reply from: yoda

And you found a devil..... weenie didn't realize you weren't serious and agreed with you. Be careful, he'll agree with anyone who opposes personhood.
I'm starting to feel sorry for you. You are so messed up you don't even know what you are saying. You said that men should be equally responsible for ABORTIONS, not pregnancies, simply because they fathered a child that was aborted.
No shyte, Sherlock?
Now, send weenie a PM and tell him you were just kidding, and he can get the knots out of his shorts and come back to the real world.

reply from: yoda

Even if you begged her not to abort, or didn't know about the pregnancy?
Wow, you're just one big ball of guilt, aren't you? Do you have to go to a travel agent when you go on your guilt trips?

reply from: nancyu

Even if you begged her not to abort, or didn't know about the pregnancy?
Wow, you're just one big ball of guilt, aren't you? Do you have to go to a travel agent when you go on your guilt trips?
Feeling guilty and being guilty are almost always two completely different things.

reply from: Faramir

You are the fool for failing to see that men often force the situation by putting women between a rock and hard place.
In those circumstances the man is just as guilty or maybe is much more guilty than the woman.
You would like to focus on just the "good for nothings" who abort for the sake of your superiority trip, but the fact is that each abortion has MANY ACCOMPLICES, not the least of which is the sperm donor.
By this same logic, every member of society who failed to provide the needs of a pregnant woman can be said to share the blame if she chooses to abort.
I think we all share the blame of abortion and nobody can wash their hands of it, not even pure and innocent nancyu who thinks she is so much better than the postabortive into whom she often sticks her knife by her snide and underhanded remarks, and who lives in a special pleace where abortion is illegal. She's guilty too.
Some are more guilty than others, but we all share the blame, as I see it, and I see a man behind every abortion, and certainly they are not all innocent.

reply from: churchmouse

Oh nancy................now you aren't avoiding this question are you? LOL

How do you feel about the innocent man Hill killed? And how do you feel about the woman he wounded?
Were these acts also justified?

reply from: Faramir

None of the violence defenders and sympathyzers have addressed this, have they?

reply from: ChristianLott2

lol.. LOL. LMAO.. lol lol lol
LOL LOL
LOL
LOL
are you done?

reply from: ChristianLott2

must be a conspiracy.
absolutely.

reply from: yoda

Even if you begged her not to abort, or didn't know about the pregnancy?
Wow, you're just one big ball of guilt, aren't you? Do you have to go to a travel agent when you go on your guilt trips?
Feeling guilty and being guilty are almost always two completely different things.
I notice that weenie is avoiding my questions on this subject, I think it must be a conspiracy of silence.

reply from: Yuuki

She couldn't abort if the man didn't have sex with her. He is 50% responsible. I fully agree that if you want to jail the woman then you need to jail the father, too.
I don't think anyone should be jailed, but in crazy world where women get jailed for abortions, I don't think fathers should at all. Women have the choice not the men.
Just as consent to sex does not mean consent to pregnancy it doesn't mean (for the man) consent to abortion either.
but the biggest reason not to jail the man is that it's really not his choice.
I don't think the father or mother should be jailed either, I was just playing devil's advocate. But seriously, it's so wrong that you see the pro-haters on here screetching that it's a "stupid" idea to make the man accountable, that I "hate all men" because I'd dare say they should be equally responsible for a pregnancy!! Have they forgotten that a sperm is half of a human being's DNA? So he's half responsible.
Yep, they're showing their anti-woman colors... ALL the blame and punishment goes on HER, and NONE on the poor, powerless, innocent man.
He shouldn't have flung his sperm around if he didn't want a baby!!
Fool, he is half responsible for creating the baby, that doesn't make him half responsible for killing the baby.
So once again the man gets off with no punishment. Awesome. It's ALL the woman's fault for opening her scancy legs. Got it.

reply from: yoda

Fascinating...... most proaborts will scream all day long that "IT'S THE WOMAN'S CHOICE"... but you haven't gotten the word yet, have you?
Really, opening her legs for the sex doesn't cause abortions, it's opening her legs for the abortionist butcher that causes abortions.

reply from: churchmouse

NO NO NO FAramir they HAVE NOT.
ha ha Any guesses to why not?
It seems anywhere I go one of them catches my posts and bashes me. But they avoid this one.
I asked Yoda and nanc as to why I am a faux lifer in their eyes.....
And again they wont answer. They are on here all the time, they see the questions.
HAHA

reply from: nancyu

NO NO NO FAramir they HAVE NOT.
ha ha Any guesses to why not?
It seems anywhere I go one of them catches my posts and bashes me. But they avoid this one.
I asked Yoda and nanc as to why I am a faux lifer in their eyes.....
And again they wont answer. They are on here all the time, they see the questions.
HAHA
You worry me churchmouse, you seem unstable. You are so obsessed with Paul Hill it makes me wonder what you might be contemplating.

reply from: yoda

That poor ole thing doesn't seem to realize what "ignore" means.....
Like weenie, she is mostly obsessed with revenge, any way she can get it, for "perceived insults" from those who support personhood for the unborn. I look for other "gotcha threads" in the future designed to extract revenge.

reply from: nancyu

lol.. LOL. LMAO.. lol lol lol
LOL LOL
LOL
LOL
are you done?
No, I'm a frayed knot.

reply from: nancyu

must be a conspiracy.
absolutely.
Yup.

reply from: yoda

We may as well give up, nancy, cause ole house rat & company is going to keep on posting "gotcha" threads until they extract their full measure of revenge.... they're like bulldogs with a bone.....

reply from: churchmouse

You are good at marathon running yoda. Try going to my new thread and address the questions that you have been running from. You use the excuse that you have people on ignore because you dont want to address questions YOU CANT ANSWER. You are a coward.
You and your cast of haters.....are the ones that throw insults.
Ha ha
Nancy thinks I am obsessed with Paul Hill. Awe nance. Not really. Would like you to answer the questions put to you by many people on here however.
But ya cant can ya dearie.
FORGET HILL......WHAT ABOUT THE INNOCENT GUY HE ALSO KILLED IN COLD BLOOD. WHAT ABOUT THE WIFE OF THE ABORTIONIST. WAS THIS ICING ON THE CAKE FOR YOU THAT THEY WERE GUNNED DOWN? WAS HILL JUSTIFIED IN KILLING AND INJURING THEM?
Honey just a simple yes or no on that last question will shut me up.
LOL
WAS HILL JUSTIFIED IN KILLING AND INJURING THEM?
yes or no

reply from: nancyu

You are good at marathon running yoda. Try going to my new thread and address the questions that you have been running from. You use the excuse that you have people on ignore because you dont want to address questions YOU CANT ANSWER. You are a coward.
You and your cast of haters.....are the ones that throw insults.
Ha ha
Nancy thinks I am obsessed with Paul Hill. Awe nance. Not really. Would like you to answer the questions put to you by many people on here however.
But ya cant can ya dearie.
FORGET HILL......WHAT ABOUT THE INNOCENT GUY HE ALSO KILLED IN COLD BLOOD. WHAT ABOUT THE WIFE OF THE ABORTIONIST. WAS THIS ICING ON THE CAKE FOR YOU THAT THEY WERE GUNNED DOWN? WAS HILL JUSTIFIED IN KILLING AND INJURING THEM?
Honey just a simple yes or no on that last question will shut me up.
LOL
WAS HILL JUSTIFIED IN KILLING AND INJURING THEM?
yes or no
CHURCHMOUSE!!!!
I HAVE ALREADY ANSWERED THIS!!!!
I am going to take a poll, and I'm betting there is only one person on this entire forum who doesn't agree that you are either insane or an idiot or both!

reply from: yoda

Well, nancy posted your rant, so now I see what you are ranting about.
You really are weird...... I didn't kill anyone, so I can't answer for anyone else's actions who did. I wasn't there, I don't know the people or the circumstances involved, so I'm not going to "pass judgment" on anyone.
Oh, and I'm not promoting or suggesting that anyone emulate Paul Hill or anyone else, so how do you think you have a right to demand that I pass judgment on anyone? You really are desperate to find a "gotcha" question, aren't you?
But for just a moment, let's stipulate that what you are apparently accusing me and the other personhood posters of is true, that we are all wild-eyed, crazy doctor killing maniacs..... how would that make it more or less moral to kill unborn babies? Have you thought of a way to tie this insane obsession of yours to the morality of killing babies? Or is revenge your only driving motivation now?
Oh, and don't call me "honey".

reply from: Yuuki

Too bad you lost that bet, there's 3 so far who believe she is a wonderful Christian.

reply from: yoda

Even if you begged her not to abort, or didn't know about the pregnancy?
Wow, you're just one big ball of guilt, aren't you? Do you have to go to a travel agent when you go on your guilt trips?
Feeling guilty and being guilty are almost always two completely different things.
I notice that weenie is avoiding my questions on this subject, I think it must be a conspiracy of silence.

reply from: churchmouse

Yuuki, why thank you.
I am a sinner however and fall short every day of my life. I am a Jesus freak however LOL....... I am passionate about the prolife cause, but the passion of my life is Christ.
WOW............THE SAME THING YOU ARE DOING BY NOT ADDRESSING THE VIOLENCE HILL DID. THE CONSPIRACY OF SILENCE BY THOSE THAT CONDONE THE VIOLENT ACTS CARRIED OUT ON HILL, BODY GUARD AND ABORTIONISTS WIFE.
LOL

reply from: Yuuki

We are all sinners, it's true. You're welcome

reply from: Faramir

I don't believe you, nancyu, faithman, and joe have a monopoly on "personhood."
Are you saying Churchmouse is not a "personhood poster"?

reply from: Faramir

Even if you begged her not to abort, or didn't know about the pregnancy?
Wow, you're just one big ball of guilt, aren't you? Do you have to go to a travel agent when you go on your guilt trips?
Feeling guilty and being guilty are almost always two completely different things.
I notice that weenie is avoiding my questions on this subject, I think it must be a conspiracy of silence.
If I made someone pregnant out of wedlock and if there was no mutual intent or expectation that the woman and I could be raising a child together, though I WOULD beg her not to abort, I would still be guilty for having forced a situation where abortion is some form of "solution." Yes, I would be guilty too of the abortion.

reply from: xnavy

i tell my sons to keep it abstinent til marriage, because that is the only 100 percent way to prevent pregnancy, stds and anything else
you get with sex. just out of curiousity the person giving out tea and chocolates what if the person don't like tea. just kidding.

reply from: yoda

And since no one made that claim, you killed that strawman!
I don't know. Why don't you ask her?
Better yet, why don't you ask her how depicting some posters as wild-eyed, crazy doctor killing maniacs will make it more or less moral to kill babies, or save any babies?
Then post her answer, so I'll get to read it.

reply from: yoda

Isn't every pregnancy legally a "situation where abortion is some form of solution"?
How is an out of wedlock pregnancy any different from an in wedlock pregnancy with respect to the availability of abortion as a "solution"?

reply from: yoda

Well, they're just out of luck I guess........

reply from: Faramir

And since no one made that claim, you killed that strawman!
I don't know. Why don't you ask her?
Better yet, why don't you ask her how depicting some posters as wild-eyed, crazy doctor killing maniacs will make it more or less moral to kill babies, or save any babies?
Then post her answer, so I'll get to read it.
Twice that I noticed you made a distinction between another pro-lifer and "personhood posters," as if the former was not one of the latter.

reply from: yoda

Yeah, we're pretty much divided along those lines, it seems. Haven't you noticed that?

reply from: churchmouse

No faramir is right AGAIN. You have me on your faux lifer list and you know it.
The hate gang says I am not pro-life because I do not condone what Hill did.
Oh thats right honey, I am on ignore.......ROFL
Yea right.
Why dont you reply to the question about violence yoda? BE a man, step up to the plate for once !!!!!!!
Hey Faramir could you ask him once again so we all can see his answer.
What do you think about Hills actions against the bodyguard and the woman he injured? Was that just incing on the cake?
Ask him why this question is so hard to answer.

reply from: ChristianLott2

No faramir is right AGAIN. You have me on your faux lifer list and you know it.
The hate gang says I am not pro-life because I do not condone what Hill did.
I'm the only one keeping a faux lifer list nowadays and you're on it because you defend pro aborts like carolemarie who says she thinks rape babies should be murdered.
You're also a jerk, so it's also personal. We just do not want you on our side. You're a liability. Go act crazy for the pro aborts. You rant and rave and are a bad example.

reply from: yoda

Isn't that strange? She hates me because she thinks she's on a list that doesn't even exist..... hmmmm...... hard to catch a break around here, ya know?

reply from: Yuuki

Isn't that strange? She hates me because she thinks she's on a list that doesn't even exist..... hmmmm...... hard to catch a break around here, ya know?
Except that it DOES exist, and she IS on it. Whether you keep it in your signature is irrelevant; we know where your loyalties lie.

reply from: Faramir

I'm beginning to see the light about this reasoning.
There's no point in beating a dead horse and no point in trying to get others to admit something they can't or won't.
It's better to just make your case without challenging anyone else in particular, and let others respond or not respond as they see fit.
Besides, the arguments have much more strength that way.

reply from: yoda

Goodness, you're a mind reader too? I thought only the "openly proabort" posters could read people's minds........ geez!
So, how do you and the other mind readers know when I put someone on or take someone off the list? Do you have a private thread where you post that information?

reply from: yoda

Wow...... I've been preaching that in vain for years here....
And, btw, I really think you're safe from being lumped in with nancy, so you don't need to call her the "B" word anymore to separate yourself from her, okay?

reply from: Faramir

Wow...... I've been preaching that in vain for years here....
And, btw, I really think you're safe from being lumped in with nancy, so you don't need to call her the "B" word anymore to separate yourself from her, okay?
I'm kind of a slow learner.
But nancyu makes me angry sometimes.
But I'm a forviging man, and will take her back, if she grovels, begs and pleads, and promises to make some effort to be nicer.

reply from: yoda

Then I take it you're not going to apologize for cursing her?
Hmmmmm....... and you're still going to claim that you only did it so that people wouldn't lump you in the same group with her? That's your story, and you're going to stick to it, right?

reply from: Yuuki

Goodness, you're a mind reader too? I thought only the "openly proabort" posters could read people's minds........ geez!
So, how do you and the other mind readers know when I put someone on or take someone off the list? Do you have a private thread where you post that information?
I'm again not saying you have a list; simply that you label us faux-lifers too, and agree with the others who do the same.

reply from: yoda

Goodness, you're a mind reader too? I thought only the "openly proabort" posters could read people's minds........ geez! So, how do you and the other mind readers know when I put someone on or take someone off the list? Do you have a private thread where you post that information?
I'm again not saying you have a list; simply that you label us faux-lifers too, and agree with the others who do the same.
Ummm.... read your own words above, you did indeed say I HAD a list.....
BTW, who is "us"?

reply from: Yuuki

Goodness, you're a mind reader too? I thought only the "openly proabort" posters could read people's minds........ geez! So, how do you and the other mind readers know when I put someone on or take someone off the list? Do you have a private thread where you post that information?
I'm again not saying you have a list; simply that you label us faux-lifers too, and agree with the others who do the same.
Ummm.... read your own words above, you did indeed say I HAD a list.....
BTW, who is "us"?
I said there WAS a list, not that YOU had a list.
And I did not mean in any way to IMPLY that it was YOU who had said list. We all know who has it. It exists. Period. You misread what I wrote, and that's your own damn fault. As for "us", that's pretty much everyone on said list.

reply from: ChristianLott2

A reminder where all the lies start from. churchrat.

reply from: Faramir

Then I take it you're not going to apologize for cursing her?
No, I'm not going to apologize for stating the truth about her.

reply from: yoda

You reinforced what houserat said, which was: "No faramir is right AGAIN. You have me on your faux lifer list and you know it. "
If you don't agree with someone, you ought not to give them an "amen".

reply from: yoda

This is fascinating. Here we have the loudest complainer about "abuse" on this forum saying the following things:
1. It's okay to curse someone just to show the forum that you are not that person's ally.....
2. If anyone makes you angry, it's okay to curse them.
3. It isn't necessary to apologize for cursing someone if you think they really are what you called them.
4. Such cursing is a perfectly okay for a good Catholic, Christian poster.
Do you disagree with any of my conclusions, weenie?

reply from: ChristianLott2

of course the biggest cry baby must be the biggest bloody hypocrite.

reply from: churchmouse

I defended carole not because of her views, it's to bad you just cant grasp that fact. I defended her against a hate gang on this forum, that wanted to literally hang her out to dry. She is a Christian and I went to her defense as a Christian sister even though our views were different.
Wow. I don't hate you. I think you show rage and hatred when you should show compassion and love, especially because you say you are a Christian.
I am not a pro-abort. I only believe in abortion to save the mothers life if it is in immediate danger.
Yesterday I read these verses in church, they might help you too. I have been praying on them ever since.
1 Peter 3:8 "Finally, all of you, live in harmony with one another: be sympathetic, love as brothers, be compassionate and humble."
1 Peter 3:9 "Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult, but with blessing, because to this you were called so that you may inherit a blessing?"
Great verse aren't they? We would both do well to listen to the words of them and so would all the other Christians on here that have let rage and anger comsume their thoughts. It's often looked at as acceptable by some to tear people down verbally or to get back at them when we are hurt. Revenge however is unacceptable behavior to God. Repay evil with evil? No we should not do this.
What makes it difficult, is that we are flawed. We are imperfect people living in an imperfect world where evil is present. But we can strive to be perfect in the imperfect. Like Peter said, we can in our hearts set apart Christ as Lord. While having reverence for God we also should show respect for each other, even if we disagree.
The bigger person humbles himself and does the right thing. I am not leaving by any means but I am jumping out of the boxing ring.
I wish you "great blessings'.

reply from: Faramir

This is fascinating. Here we have the loudest complainer about "abuse" on this forum saying the following things:
1. It's okay to curse someone just to show the forum that you are not that person's ally.....
2. If anyone makes you angry, it's okay to curse them.
3. It isn't necessary to apologize for cursing someone if you think they really are what you called them.
4. Such cursing is a perfectly okay for a good Catholic, Christian poster.
Do you disagree with any of my conclusions, weenie?
I don't consider referring to someone as the "b word" as cursing someone.
But I think it's time for a poll to help clear this up...

reply from: yoda

Fascinating........ the lengths you will go to to justify yourself.....
Main Entry: 1 *****
Pronunciation: \?bich\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English bicche, from Old English bicce
Date: before 12th century
2 a: a lewd or immoral woman b: a malicious, spiteful, or overbearing woman - sometimes used as a generalized term of abuse
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/*****

reply from: ChristianLott2

and he thought it was a term of endearment.

reply from: yoda

and he thought it was a term of endearment.
Right. If I were a gutter rat like him, I'd call some of his friends the b word, just to get his reaction. I'm sure he'd object violently........

reply from: BossMomma

This is fascinating. Here we have the loudest complainer about "abuse" on this forum saying the following things:
1. It's okay to curse someone just to show the forum that you are not that person's ally.....
2. If anyone makes you angry, it's okay to curse them.
3. It isn't necessary to apologize for cursing someone if you think they really are what you called them.
4. Such cursing is a perfectly okay for a good Catholic, Christian poster.
Do you disagree with any of my conclusions, weenie?
I don't consider referring to someone as the "b word" as cursing someone.
But I think it's time for a poll to help clear this up...
It's not like cursing them to die or something but it is cussing them out. I cuss like a sailor somedays depending on the level of BS present but I have seriously worked on myself lately. A b*tch is a female dog or an argumentative bad tempered woman, for nancyu the description is accurate so calling her the 'B' word is just putting her out there in a vulgar way.
1b i t c h
Pronunciation: \?bich\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English bicche, from Old English bicce
Date: before 12th century
1: the female of the dog or some other carnivorous mammals
2 a: a lewd or immoral woman b: a malicious, spiteful, or overbearing woman - sometimes used as a generalized term of abuse
3: something that is extremely difficult, objectionable, or unpleasant
4: complaint

reply from: ChristianLott2

what a pathetic person you are. you and your team of low lives need to stop attacking nancy.

reply from: ChristianLott2

carolemarie is a murderer. this is a fact, not an opinion or curse word.
that was too harsh for you though, but you can call someone a b*tch and not apologize?
you should be banned from this forum. all you do is create an environment of conflict and gossip. you could care less about the millions of innocent babies slaughtered.

reply from: BossMomma

what a pathetic person you are. you and your team of low lives need to stop attacking nancy.
There's irony for you, you attack several people here and somehow have the big hairy balls to tell others to stop attacking? You're not only pathetic but woefully unintelligent. Hell you even started attacking me on a thread that had nothing to do with you or our little spat, you just like attacking. I'm sorry you are such a sad, bitter little primate but it's really not my fault or my problem, find counceling and get over your trip.

reply from: Faramir

carolemarie is a murderer. this is a fact, not an opinion or curse word.
that was too harsh for you though, but you can call someone a b*tch and not apologize?
you should be banned from this forum. all you do is create an environment of conflict and gossip. you could care less about the millions of innocent babies slaughtered.
LOL
Complain to the board owner.
He just might actually listen to the likes of you and ban me.

reply from: churchmouse

Lott said,
Attacking nancy? And what about your group? Do they attack anyone?
ChristianLott why dont you take a deep breath and calm down.
Carolemarie had an abortion, I had an abortion, several other women here have had abortions.....we all admit what we did and that it was wrong.
Why do you on a regular basis need to throw that in front of our faces? Are your actions kind? We are Christians, we repented and God forgave us, like he can forgive you of your sins, if you truely mean it and ask.
Faramir does care about the unborn. If you were not so busy hating you might just see that.

reply from: Faramir

The Rat Pack will not think I care about the unborn until I jump on the bandwagon and persecute the postabortive pro-lifers. If I decide to say "killermarie" like they do, I'm in.

reply from: churchmouse

Faramir I would appreciate if you did not call them rats. I am the rat remember, and I love that name, its MINE....LOL
Seriously...........If you jump on that bandwagon I will horse whip ya so watch out.

reply from: Faramir

Faramir I would appreciate if you did not call them rats. I am the rat remember, and I love that name, its MINE....LOL
Seriously...........If you jump on that bandwagon I will horse whip ya so watch out.
But I love that name "Rat Pack."
It's so appropriate--and I didn't make it up.
But okay, somebody has to be the adult. I'll try it your way for awhile.

reply from: yoda

Ah yes, there's that little implied threat...... "Shape up or I'll start calling people profane names again!" Nice..........

reply from: churchmouse

Ahhhhhh yoda, you probably would be the one person at a comedy club not laughing.

reply from: Faramir

Ahhhhhh yoda, you probably would be the one person at a comedy club not laughing.
I can think of three others...
LOL LOL LOL

reply from: churchmouse

Well I try to laugh a lot. In fact i got repremanded on here for this LOL.

reply from: churchmouse

And when did a meaningful discussion happen on here as of late?
I am sure some of my laughter has been taken at times as being condescending, I won't say that I never used it for that reason. But its better than namecalling so I dissagree with you. We all have our styles and we all have different levels of passion for this subject and for defending others.
Faithman, nancy, yoda, Lott use profanity and namecalling towards people to make their points, its their style. Even you have a style.
Well we are all human aren't we? And I have never ever pretended to be perfect as some do here. I have admitted my sins, failures and regrets without hesitation. I take responsiblity for what I do and what I say, that is more than I can about many on here. Have I always walked the talk? No. As you have pointed out here in so many words, as if I didnt need reminding...... But when I recognize that I have made a mistake, I am usually the first to apologize. I am sorry ya find a simple LOL as bad as calling ( scanc, *****, whore etc) I dont see it that way. I do not target anyone with LOL's. If I think someone or something is funny, ironic etc....I laugh.
Aren't you in a way? I have yet to see you concede anything. I have yet to see you admit any shortcomings. You do have a style and you have a very affective way of putting someone down...you do it intellectually. You are very creative with language.
"I am the rat remember, and I love that name, its MINE....LOL"
Now who is laughing at herself here?
Creative way of avoiding the LOL.
But you laughed here nevertheless at the people like me that stand on the Word and believe that what you say is true.
I have never resorted to this how ever.......
I think I will stick with my LOL's.
LOL


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