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More pro-abort antics

by: Shenanigans

Grrr: Me so angeeee.
http://tvnz.co.nz/health-news/family-planning-apply-abortion-licence-2533883

What boils my potatoe is how these people talk about "increasing women's choice" and "allowing women greater access", aboriton is only legal for exceptions! A woman getting an abortion for an "exception" should take what she's given!!
But our abortion services try to keep misshaps under 3%, somethign tells me this is going to be kick it up a notch!

reply from: 4given

Sad.. Although chemical .. medical abortions are less invasive, I don't quite see how it is best or easier on the woman and her mental health in the long run.. Any measure to destroy an innocent human being is disturbing. Are the women given any details about their child's development etc there? Are there any requirements.. waiting period, gestational facts, consent, ultrasounds?

reply from: Shenanigans

Medical/chemical TOPs may be less invasive in the traditional big piece of metal tubing shoved up your cervix, but seriously, those drugs could melt your guts out. I'm going to have to go hunt them down, but I've seen research that RU 486 can stay in the woman's body for years and affect future pregnanices causing misccarrigages and low birth weights, also because it was designed as a cancer drug or something, its not intended for healthy women wanting to kill healthy unborn children. You take your own life into your hands when you pop that pill. YOu'd be better off drinking a glass of draino.
ANyway...
The way it is in NZL is if a woman wants an abortion =
Woman goes to her GP or family planning clinic.
GP or FPC refer her to first certifying consultant.
CC has a ten minute meet and give me money, ah... greet where he "assesses" her need for an abortion.
CC the refers her to second CC who will also be the operating surgeon.
OS will then sign off as the 2nd CC who then okays the abortion. Abortion is only legal for "exceptions" and 97% are performed under the bullkaka mental health life risk.
The first CC will usually order the USS if only to determine the gestational age.
On the day of the surgery or day before, the woman will go to the hospital where the abortion is performed and talk to a social worker who will just discuss with her the options and what the woman really wants or understands and her situation.
From what I've heard from the women most SW don't talk about options like adoption et cetera. A lot of the notes I've seen of pts who've aborted have stuff like "pt fully aware of all options and still wants to abort, doesn't think she can cope with another child or a child... et cetera".
Basically, it doesn't sound like the SW really gives a flying rats poop about the woman and just goes through the motions.
The abortionist usually writes in the most mundane operation note, just "straightfoward TOP" (termination of pregnancy). There is a pamplet the nurses give the pt on dx for post op instructions, though I haven't been able to ge my hands on one. THere is a strigent reporting system of complications and GPs are sent letters to ask them to refer back to them if something goes wrong, and generally the complication rate in NZL is under 3% and we've had no reported deaths of the 300,000 odd abortions. But the rate in america seems to be 1:300,000 for deaths, so we're probably due for one.
But we've had scandles where its been proven they aren't reporting abortion related deaths or complications.
The woman is also asked to have a follow up appointment in a few weeks but they aren't pushed for it.
Its kind of sick, really, I once saw written in a pt's note, a letter from one CC to the 2nd CC "Pt was aware of her desire to TP but waited because she wanted to go on holiday for a few months, therefore, she is now 19 weeks - which is kind of disturbing".
However, there does seem to be a rather callous nature to the woman in NZL who are aborting. Whether I've met them in personal or professional life these women are just so mean and nasty.

reply from: yoda

It's that wonderful modern invention, "Human Pesticide"......

reply from: micah

"The Family Planning Council may soon be able to provide non-surgical abortions within the first nine weeks of pregnancy."
That means the majority of abortions will no longer be surgical. The day is coming where most women who need an abortion just go to the local pharmacy instead of Planned Parenthood.

reply from: BossMomma

Thats a scary thought.

reply from: Banned Member

Can you see people out doing day to day sidewalk counseling and protesting outside of Wal-Mart?
Something tells me, that would make the news!

reply from: BossMomma

No, it'd just make it very inconvenient for shoppers there to pick up perscriptions, like me, I go to the pharmacy once a month for my lexapro, protesters do NOT want to be in my way if I don't have my meds. Plus it'd be a hardship for those there for clothes and groceries.

reply from: nancyu

Here's a good comment on the article:
Catherine Gillies ; 2009-03-11 @ 21:32 NZDT Report Abusive Message
Backstreet abortions new income stream for FPA.This story should be in the business section, not health. I have already dealt with FPA's "health" solutions when counselling clients suffering from post abortion trauma. The heartache will not be less painful, nor the grieving less intense simply because the abortion happened outside of a clinic. If this is really about women's health, remember most women choose abortion when they feel they have no other choice. CM Gillies CA

reply from: nancyu

No, it'd just make it very inconvenient for shoppers there to pick up perscriptions, like me, I go to the pharmacy once a month for my lexapro, protesters do NOT want to be in my way if I don't have my meds. Plus it'd be a hardship for those there for clothes and groceries.
You're don't seem as concerned for the "hardship" the child will endure by losing his very life.

reply from: BossMomma

No, it'd just make it very inconvenient for shoppers there to pick up perscriptions, like me, I go to the pharmacy once a month for my lexapro, protesters do NOT want to be in my way if I don't have my meds. Plus it'd be a hardship for those there for clothes and groceries.
You're don't seem as concerned for the "hardship" the child will endure by losing his very life.
I'm more concerned about what kind of mother I'd be to MY kids without my meds. I'm not near as worried about whose getting the MAP.

reply from: Banned Member

I think that Wal-Mart should worry as much about what kind of mother kills her children inside herself with her meds.

reply from: BossMomma

Should they also picket walgreens and CVS? Hell why not be a total pain in the ass to anyone who can write or fill a Rx?

reply from: BossMomma

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Obesity may very well be the #1 cause of failure to implant and miscarriage in America.
Why don't you harass the overweight women outside of Walmart, and those buying inappropriate foods?
Lets also harass Starbucks and Sunny D. factories, all that caffiene and vitamin C might be killing babies.

reply from: BossMomma

Works for me.
Thats because your an imbecile.

reply from: nancyu

No, it'd just make it very inconvenient for shoppers there to pick up perscriptions, like me, I go to the pharmacy once a month for my lexapro, protesters do NOT want to be in my way if I don't have my meds. Plus it'd be a hardship for those there for clothes and groceries.
You're don't seem as concerned for the "hardship" the child will endure by losing his very life.
I'm more concerned about what kind of mother I'd be to MY kids without my meds. I'm not near as worried about whose getting the MAP.
Obviously.

reply from: BossMomma

No, it'd just make it very inconvenient for shoppers there to pick up perscriptions, like me, I go to the pharmacy once a month for my lexapro, protesters do NOT want to be in my way if I don't have my meds. Plus it'd be a hardship for those there for clothes and groceries.
You're don't seem as concerned for the "hardship" the child will endure by losing his very life.
I'm more concerned about what kind of mother I'd be to MY kids without my meds. I'm not near as worried about whose getting the MAP.
Obviously.
I'm against spanking, should I have the police come to your house to make sure you aren't physically abusing your children? You obviously don't take their emotional welfare very seriously.

reply from: nancyu

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Obesity may very well be the #1 cause of failure to implant and miscarriage in America.
Why don't you harass the overweight women outside of Walmart, and those buying inappropriate foods?
Cool. That means hormonal birth control is completely unnecessary. You don't want children? Have some twinkies.

reply from: nancyu

No, it'd just make it very inconvenient for shoppers there to pick up perscriptions, like me, I go to the pharmacy once a month for my lexapro, protesters do NOT want to be in my way if I don't have my meds. Plus it'd be a hardship for those there for clothes and groceries.
You're don't seem as concerned for the "hardship" the child will endure by losing his very life.
I'm more concerned about what kind of mother I'd be to MY kids without my meds. I'm not near as worried about whose getting the MAP.
Obviously.
I'm against spanking, should I have the police come to your house to make sure you aren't physically abusing your children? You obviously don't take their emotional welfare very seriously.
If that makes you feel better. Maybe I should do the same for you. It seems you've skipped a dose of those meds. You're making no sense whatsoever.

reply from: Cecilia

I support years of research before medicine is introduced as safe for public consumption. This would be no exception for me.
This comment that you left makes me ask under what circumstance do you meet these women you say are mean and nasty?

reply from: BossMomma

No, it'd just make it very inconvenient for shoppers there to pick up perscriptions, like me, I go to the pharmacy once a month for my lexapro, protesters do NOT want to be in my way if I don't have my meds. Plus it'd be a hardship for those there for clothes and groceries.
You're don't seem as concerned for the "hardship" the child will endure by losing his very life.
I'm more concerned about what kind of mother I'd be to MY kids without my meds. I'm not near as worried about whose getting the MAP.
Obviously.
I'm against spanking, should I have the police come to your house to make sure you aren't physically abusing your children? You obviously don't take their emotional welfare very seriously.
If that makes you feel better. Maybe I should do the same for you. It seems you've skipped a dose of those meds. You're making no sense whatsoever.
It makes perfect sense, your just too much of an idiot to understand. You support picketing pharmacies because they fill perscriptions for Abortifaecients even if it means harassing people getting totally unrelated medicines just because your an extremist retard. What if someone harassed you at your home because they oppose something you may or may not be doing to your kids?

reply from: Faramir

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You've got to realize who you're talking to.
Nancy once wrote a harangue so caustic about how much she hated parenthood (http://www.prolifeamerica.com/FuseTalk/Forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=5352&highlight_key=y) that she had to go back and remove it out of pure embarrassment.
She later said that one of her kids needed to get out of her house because he was 18, and the other teenagers should be paying her bills.
No one will EVER forget that message from her kid that was just plain SCARY. She blew off all that pain, despair, and desperation as the work of some trivial "drama queen."
Nancy figures that if she was forced into motherhood, everyone else should suffer the same hideous fate.
I've never heard a happy mom spew Nancy's brand of bitterness.
You really are an Archivist, aren't you?
But I would be more impressed if you had copied the thread BEFORE nancyu destroyed the evidence.

reply from: BossMomma

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You've got to realize who you're talking to.
Nancy once wrote a harangue so caustic about how much she hated parenthood (http://www.prolifeamerica.com/FuseTalk/Forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=5352&highlight_key=y) that she had to go back and remove it out of pure embarrassment.
She later said that one of her kids needed to get out of her house because he was 18, and the other teenagers should be paying her bills.
No one will EVER forget that message from her kid that was just plain SCARY. She blew off all that pain, despair, and desperation as the work of some trivial "drama queen."
Nancy figures that if she was forced into motherhood, everyone else should suffer the same hideous fate.
I've never heard a happy mom spew Nancy's brand of bitterness.
You really are an Archivist, aren't you?
But I would be more impressed if you had copied the thread BEFORE nancyu destroyed the evidence.
No evidence is needed, Nancy is by nature an abusive individual and I weep for her kids. My 7 year old will tell me when he's gotten in trouble at school because he trusts me and knows I will not hurt him, my children have never shyed away from me. I find it sad that Nancy's daughter had to do something so extreme just to get her attention and I almost fear what took place between mom and teen in the home.

reply from: BossMomma

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Obesity may very well be the #1 cause of failure to implant and miscarriage in America.
Why don't you harass the overweight women outside of Walmart, and those buying inappropriate foods?
Cool. That means hormonal birth control is completely unnecessary. You don't want children? Have some twinkies.
Or get sterilized, that's a good way to avoid unwanted pregnancy AND abortion.

reply from: BossMomma

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
You've got to realize who you're talking to.
Nancy once wrote a harangue so caustic about how much she hated parenthood (http://www.prolifeamerica.com/FuseTalk/Forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=5352&highlight_key=y) that she had to go back and remove it out of pure embarrassment.
She later said that one of her kids needed to get out of her house because he was 18, and the other teenagers should be paying her bills.
No one will EVER forget that message from her kid that was just plain SCARY. She blew off all that pain, despair, and desperation as the work of some trivial "drama queen."
Nancy figures that if she was forced into motherhood, everyone else should suffer the same hideous fate.
I've never heard a happy mom spew Nancy's brand of bitterness.
Well, it takes more than birth to make a woman a Mom I always say. A woman's children should trust and depend on her, not go to extremes to get her attention.

reply from: faithman

No, it'd just make it very inconvenient for shoppers there to pick up perscriptions, like me, I go to the pharmacy once a month for my lexapro, protesters do NOT want to be in my way if I don't have my meds. Plus it'd be a hardship for those there for clothes and groceries.
You're don't seem as concerned for the "hardship" the child will endure by losing his very life.
I'm more concerned about what kind of mother I'd be to MY kids without my meds. I'm not near as worried about whose getting the MAP.
Meds Eh?. Explains the dark circles under the eyes, and the pig pen house keeping. My haps you should consider cutting back.

reply from: BossMomma

No, it'd just make it very inconvenient for shoppers there to pick up perscriptions, like me, I go to the pharmacy once a month for my lexapro, protesters do NOT want to be in my way if I don't have my meds. Plus it'd be a hardship for those there for clothes and groceries.
You're don't seem as concerned for the "hardship" the child will endure by losing his very life.
I'm more concerned about what kind of mother I'd be to MY kids without my meds. I'm not near as worried about whose getting the MAP.
Meds Eh?. Explains the dark circles under the eyes, and the pig pen house keeping. My haps you should consider cutting back.
You haven't seen my house for one thing, only a single counter so blow it out your ass. The dark circles under my eyes are from working night shifts and being up every two hours at night breastfeeding my baby. Whats your excuse for the unwashed unshaven bum look, eh Rick?

reply from: faithman

Date: Mar 6, 2009
President Dan Becker of Georgia RTL
* See the 81-Mile Long Memorial Wall: Stunning! You will be shocked. The tremendous Vietnam Veteran's Memorial Wall
is 500 feet long. At Georgia Right To Life's SupportPersonhood.com website, see the video introduction that shows the
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of Georgia Right To Life, for your courage and leadership! As Dan said today: "We call it the personhood approach," the only
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recognizing an embryo as a person and not property, which he compared to the time in history when America had to admit
its widespread cruelty and recognize the personhood of blacks.
http://kgov.com/bel/20090306
Date: Mar 5, 2009
North Dakota Hero Rep. Dan Ruby
ND Representative Ruby Sponsors Personhood Bill: As the Personhood movement marches across America,
state representative Dan Ruby tells the Bismarck Tribune, "I think North Dakota will be on the map to be the first state
in recent years to mount a legitimate challenge to Roe v. Wade!" Bob Enyart's interview of Rep. Ruby highlighted the
scientific terminology in the legislation with its reference to human DNA which biologically distinguishes people from
animal species. The two discussed the importance of North Dakota's legislation having no exceptions, just like the bills
and initiatives currently moving forward in Georgia, Alabama, Montana, South Carolina, Maryland, Mississippi and Oregon!
And Bob addressed the temptation to say that such legislative efforts are about personhood and not about ending abortion.
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God-given right to life and personhood of the unborn, U.S. law based on God's enduring command Do not murder will
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Date: Mar 4, 2009
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* Senator Daniel McGee's Historic Bill: MT Sen. McGee introduced two principled pro-family bills. His first bill was
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Date: Feb 12, 2009
Maryland Rep. Don Dwyer Makes Pro-life History!
* Maryland Personhood Amendment: Maryland Delegate (state representative) Don Dwyer this week introduced the
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reply from: Shenanigans

As much as I consider abortionists to be the most incompetent form of medical "professional", and I use the term lightly, women really need to be under the supervision of a doctor during this mess.
We're talking about a drug which is meant to destory the embryo/foetus and then another drug which dispatches it from the uterus. Too many things can go wrong if left in th ehands of a woman. Its not just the child the woman has to shed, but theplacenta, the chances of bleeding and retained tissues is too high for it to be left to the woman.
Even when women miscarry, which is somewhat natural, she still has risks involved. It stands to reason that a drug that causes a miscarriage is both risky and defintely not natural!
OF course, I"m all for women looking down and seeing their child in the blood stains in their undies. It'll hopefully traumatise them to the point that it wakes them up. Shame it has to cost the life of an innocent child though.

reply from: yoda

But what's a few dead women if it preserves the "right to access to abortion" for all women? </sarcasm>

reply from: Yuuki

But what's a few dead women if it preserves the "right to access to abortion" for all women? </sarcasm>
What's a few dead women/doctors as long as the babies live? Neither situation is right.

reply from: Shenanigans

But what's a few dead women if it preserves the "right to access to abortion" for all women? </sarcasm>
What's a few dead women/doctors as long as the babies live? Neither situation is right.
I don't know about the rest of you pro-lifers, but I'd really like it if NO ONE dies at the hands of someone else.

reply from: yoda

How can the babies live if their mothers die?

reply from: yoda

I'm glad you said "prolifers", because I know the proaborts won't like the idea that NO ONE gets killed......

reply from: Shenanigans

How can the babies live if their mothers die?
THey could be zombie babies.
As awesome as that would be, it probably wouldn't help our cause...

reply from: Shenanigans

Yeah, I did that on purpose.
You know, what we shoudl do is have like a programme where pro-aborts can go to the abbitor and kill a lamb or calf or something whenever a woman doesn't abort. That way they can still statisfy their blood lust. We can even put little baby booties and pacifiers on the lambs so they're kind like people babies.

reply from: BossMomma

Yeah, I did that on purpose.
You know, what we shoudl do is have like a programme where pro-aborts can go to the abbitor and kill a lamb or calf or something whenever a woman doesn't abort. That way they can still statisfy their blood lust. We can even put little baby booties and pacifiers on the lambs so they're kind like people babies.
Thats rather sick and completely erroneous.

reply from: Shenanigans

You've pretty much summed up abortion.

reply from: BossMomma

You've pretty much summed up abortion.
Yes abortion is sick and wrong, but so is making blanket statements like that about people you don't even know. I was pro-choice when I first came to this board but was still doing more to preserve life than the average sign wielding protestor. Blanket statements like this make pro-lifers look utterly foolish and totally offensive.

reply from: faithman

You've pretty much summed up abortion.
Yes abortion is sick and wrong, but so is making blanket statements like that about people you don't even know. I was pro-choice when I first came to this board but was still doing more to preserve life than the average sign wielding protestor. Blanket statements like this make pro-lifers look utterly foolish and totally offensive.
OOOOOHHHH SSSSOOOO making blanket statments is wrong for everyone else, but you can make stupid generalzations about "sign wielding protestors"? Know all of them do you? Know about what all they do and don't do? You follow them around everyday and document their activity? Busy little slob aren't you? Maybe you should use some of your time cleaning house and making it a safer place for your kids.

reply from: BossMomma

You've pretty much summed up abortion.
Yes abortion is sick and wrong, but so is making blanket statements like that about people you don't even know. I was pro-choice when I first came to this board but was still doing more to preserve life than the average sign wielding protestor. Blanket statements like this make pro-lifers look utterly foolish and totally offensive.
OOOOOHHHH SSSSOOOO making blanket statments is wrong for everyone else, but you can make stupid generalzations about "sign wielding protestors"? Know all of them do you? Know about what all they do and don't do? You follow them around everyday and document their activity? Busy little slob aren't you? Maybe you should use some of your time cleaning house and making it a safer place for your kids.
What have you seen about my house besides one countertop you degenerate unwashed troll? I have personal experience with you sign wielding protestors and they were all a bunch of ignorant ass holes, your not making my opinion of them any better. Now go groom your nasty ass. http://www.dailytexanonline.com/polopoly_fs/1.1311142!image/2979001330.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_260/2979001330.jpg

reply from: Shenanigans

Honestly. I don't care. I"m not here to win friends and influence people. If people are going to judge the pro-life movement based on my twisted gallows humour they've got a screw loose and don't have the set to just accept the reality of the issue not the individuals involved. If you're going to be pro-life, pro-choice to kill unborn children, or pro-fence sitter, then do so because of the evidence you think you have, not because of weirdos like me or crazies or red necks.
The more I see of the pro-choice to kill unborn children crowd the more I see sick idiots who have no grasp of biology, medical science, the socio-economic purposes or psychological obiliteration it causes women.
And the pro-abort movement make more "blanket statements" about pro-lifers all the time, and they're commentary tends to involve sniper rifles and explosives!
I stand by my comments.
Hell, I can add to it, maybe we should refer to killing lambs with booties abaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaartion.
Pro-Mutton, Pro-Lamb, Pro-Choice.
Keep abaaaaaaartion safe, legal and tasty.
Keep your sheers off of my body.
Don't like abaaaaaartion, don't have Irish stew!

reply from: BossMomma

Honestly. I don't care. I"m not here to win friends and influence people. If people are going to judge the pro-life movement based on my twisted gallows humour they've got a screw loose and don't have the set to just accept the reality of the issue not the individuals involved. If you're going to be pro-life, pro-choice to kill unborn children, or pro-fence sitter, then do so because of the evidence you think you have, not because of weirdos like me or crazies or red necks.
The more I see of the pro-choice to kill unborn children crowd the more I see sick idiots who have no grasp of biology, medical science, the socio-economic purposes or psychological obiliteration it causes women.
And the pro-abort movement make more "blanket statements" about pro-lifers all the time, and they're commentary tends to involve sniper rifles and explosives!
I stand by my comments.
Hell, I can add to it, maybe we should refer to killing lambs with booties abaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaartion.
Pro-Mutton, Pro-Lamb, Pro-Choice.
Keep abaaaaaaartion safe, legal and tasty.
Keep your sheers off of my body.
Don't like abaaaaaartion, don't have Irish stew!
Your not here to influence people? Well then what's your plan for the unborn? You think making an arse of yourself will save babies? Influencing people and increasing our numbers is the only way to even make a dent in the amount of abortions done each year.

reply from: faithman

Honestly. I don't care. I"m not here to win friends and influence people. If people are going to judge the pro-life movement based on my twisted gallows humour they've got a screw loose and don't have the set to just accept the reality of the issue not the individuals involved. If you're going to be pro-life, pro-choice to kill unborn children, or pro-fence sitter, then do so because of the evidence you think you have, not because of weirdos like me or crazies or red necks.
The more I see of the pro-choice to kill unborn children crowd the more I see sick idiots who have no grasp of biology, medical science, the socio-economic purposes or psychological obiliteration it causes women.
And the pro-abort movement make more "blanket statements" about pro-lifers all the time, and they're commentary tends to involve sniper rifles and explosives!
I stand by my comments.
Hell, I can add to it, maybe we should refer to killing lambs with booties abaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaartion.
Pro-Mutton, Pro-Lamb, Pro-Choice.
Keep abaaaaaaartion safe, legal and tasty.
Keep your sheers off of my body.
Don't like abaaaaaartion, don't have Irish stew!
snicker.....

reply from: Rosalie

You're like a Faithman sockpuppet - but one that learned to spell.
Too bad, I actually thought that you were smart when you came here. But no, you're just another fanatical sociopath. Which of course makes your make-believe superiority hysterically funny.

reply from: faithman

You're like a Faithman sockpuppet - but one that learned to spell.
Too bad, I actually thought that you were smart when you came here. But no, you're just another fanatical sociopath. Which of course makes your make-believe superiority hysterically funny.What the bortheads, and the false pro-lifers do not understand, is that there is more to life than this physical world, and our physical bodies. Our bodies are merely the containers of the precious substance Called life. Life has to have that container to express itself in the natural world. Even if the container is flawed, it still makes it possible for the miracle of life to be expressed. Our common value is not found in the container, but what is contained. The life of a womb child is equal to the life contained in all of us. The only legitimate breaking of this container, is if it has the compunction to smash other containers without cause. When you take way the ability to express life, you loose the great privilege to express your own. Evil aggression must be subdued, or no container can have any security from unjust breakage. To take away the possibility of this wonderful spark of life to be expressed, makes this world a darker place, and the rest of us containers a little more impoverished, and alone. Though the womb child is a small container, it does not lessen the value of the life it contains. If fellow containers do not value the life of the womb child container, then they have placed their personhood container in great jeopardy. Anyone who does not see that womb children are fellow human containers, containing life of equal value to their own, is a self destructive fool, drunk on the power to kill, and must be stopped for the sake of the rest of us life containers. It is the life in us that makes us equal, not our degree of ability to express it.
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reply from: Rosalie

Everybody knows you're too stupid to do anything but copy and paste the same nonsense over and over again.

reply from: Rosalie

Of course you don't see that, you are not intelligent enough to understand the impact of an unwanted pregnancy that a woman would be forced to continue if you and your fellow abusive misogynists had your way. You're just not. Or you are and you don't give a crap (because nothing is quite as important as a fetus), which is just as frightening and horrifying.
That's pretty awesome.

reply from: faithman

What the bortheads, and the false pro-lifers do not understand, is that there is more to life than this physical world, and our physical bodies. Our bodies are merely the containers of the precious substance Called life. Life has to have that container to express itself in the natural world. Even if the container is flawed, it still makes it possible for the miracle of life to be expressed. Our common value is not found in the container, but what is contained. The life of a womb child is equal to the life contained in all of us. The only legitimate breaking of this container, is if it has the compunction to smash other containers without cause. When you take way the ability to express life, you loose the great privilege to express your own. Evil aggression must be subdued, or no container can have any security from unjust breakage. To take away the possibility of this wonderful spark of life to be expressed, makes this world a darker place, and the rest of us containers a little more impoverished, and alone. Though the womb child is a small container, it does not lessen the value of the life it contains. If fellow containers do not value the life of the womb child container, then they have placed their personhood container in great jeopardy. Anyone who does not see that womb children are fellow human containers, containing life of equal value to their own, is a self destructive fool, drunk on the power to kill, and must be stopped for the sake of the rest of us life containers. It is the life in us that makes us equal, not our degree of ability to express it.
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reply from: Rosalie

Exactly, and it is hearbreaking. Obviously, something went really wrong here and it's just so sad.

reply from: faithman

What the bortheads, and the false pro-lifers do not understand, is that there is more to life than this physical world, and our physical bodies. Our bodies are merely the containers of the precious substance Called life. Life has to have that container to express itself in the natural world. Even if the container is flawed, it still makes it possible for the miracle of life to be expressed. Our common value is not found in the container, but what is contained. The life of a womb child is equal to the life contained in all of us. The only legitimate breaking of this container, is if it has the compunction to smash other containers without cause. When you take way the ability to express life, you loose the great privilege to express your own. Evil aggression must be subdued, or no container can have any security from unjust breakage. To take away the possibility of this wonderful spark of life to be expressed, makes this world a darker place, and the rest of us containers a little more impoverished, and alone. Though the womb child is a small container, it does not lessen the value of the life it contains. If fellow containers do not value the life of the womb child container, then they have placed their personhood container in great jeopardy. Anyone who does not see that womb children are fellow human containers, containing life of equal value to their own, is a self destructive fool, drunk on the power to kill, and must be stopped for the sake of the rest of us life containers. It is the life in us that makes us equal, not our degree of ability to express it.
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reply from: Rosalie

THIS should be easy. But it's not until you are 30 and/or have at least two kids. Which is wrong of course.
Funny, every single time I said something like that here, I got verbally stoned.
You are right, of course.
Wow, I guess you're still too ignorant to realize that these 'abortionists' you are referring to are, in fact, regular OB/GYNs.
And by the way, you don't see any tiny babies in your undies. Somehow your lies have really taken over your brain. Shame.

reply from: faithman

What the bortheads, and the false pro-lifers do not understand, is that there is more to life than this physical world, and our physical bodies. Our bodies are merely the containers of the precious substance Called life. Life has to have that container to express itself in the natural world. Even if the container is flawed, it still makes it possible for the miracle of life to be expressed. Our common value is not found in the container, but what is contained. The life of a womb child is equal to the life contained in all of us. The only legitimate breaking of this container, is if it has the compunction to smash other containers without cause. When you take way the ability to express life, you loose the great privilege to express your own. Evil aggression must be subdued, or no container can have any security from unjust breakage. To take away the possibility of this wonderful spark of life to be expressed, makes this world a darker place, and the rest of us containers a little more impoverished, and alone. Though the womb child is a small container, it does not lessen the value of the life it contains. If fellow containers do not value the life of the womb child container, then they have placed their personhood container in great jeopardy. Anyone who does not see that womb children are fellow human containers, containing life of equal value to their own, is a self destructive fool, drunk on the power to kill, and must be stopped for the sake of the rest of us life containers. It is the life in us that makes us equal, not our degree of ability to express it.
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reply from: Shenanigans

My plan for the unborn?
Is to save them by focussing on their mothers. I get asked for "abortion advice" all the time from people I know professionally and personally, I give the pro-life run down, the stuff the abortionists won't tell them. I direct them to financial and pregnancy assistacne and inform them how to get the help from the govt. The other day at work a girl told me she was pregnant, well, 18 year old, I directed her to the welfare aggency, told her what forms she needed to request, then I put in a referal to our social worker angency - the ones who are non-biased and won't push her in either way. I also gave her info on her rights as a worker and as a student - how she can keep her job, education adn pregnancy.
I also am a member of the major pro-life groups in my stinky country. I man the stalls at our local "fares" and give money and time to these people. Once I am more profientent in practice I will venture into ante-natal clinics to assist women with crisis pregnancies.
I also annoy the hell out of politicans, and educate those in my life about who they are voting for and the party's stands on abortion and other major issues.
I don't beleive for a second that women who are aboriton minded head on to forums labelled "Pro-Life America" that sort of beleif just reaks of self-importance.
I do what is neccessary at my work and in my life to help women. You can't save the unborn without saving the women. I honestly don't give a flying rats arse about making myself look well behaved or whatever the hell you people think a good pro-lifer should behave like.
And seriously, Momma, I've seen some of your posts, you're the last person who should judge.
But honestly, you guys need to stop worrying about what other people think. Seesh! I grew up with the last name "Hancock" you grow up wiht a name like that, everything just slides off your back.
Get over it!

reply from: Shenanigans

Oh my gosh! You think I can spell! Oh, you've made my dyslexic day!!
But seriously, you people need to get over yourselves, for profanities sake, this is the interwebs, no abortion minded woman would come to a forum labelled "PRO LIFE AMERICA".
Grow a set and get on with the business of helping women, not ranting and raving about warped senses of humour!
ps. I don't care what anyone thinks of me. So you think I"m a sockpuppet, lady, I ain't going to loose any sleep over what some words on a screen express about me.

reply from: faithman

My plan for the unborn?
Is to save them by focussing on their mothers. I get asked for "abortion advice" all the time from people I know professionally and personally, I give the pro-life run down, the stuff the abortionists won't tell them. I direct them to financial and pregnancy assistacne and inform them how to get the help from the govt. The other day at work a girl told me she was pregnant, well, 18 year old, I directed her to the welfare aggency, told her what forms she needed to request, then I put in a referal to our social worker angency - the ones who are non-biased and won't push her in either way. I also gave her info on her rights as a worker and as a student - how she can keep her job, education adn pregnancy.
I also am a member of the major pro-life groups in my stinky country. I man the stalls at our local "fares" and give money and time to these people. Once I am more profientent in practice I will venture into ante-natal clinics to assist women with crisis pregnancies.
I also annoy the hell out of politicans, and educate those in my life about who they are voting for and the party's stands on abortion and other major issues.
I don't beleive for a second that women who are aboriton minded head on to forums labelled "Pro-Life America" that sort of beleif just reaks of self-importance.
I do what is neccessary at my work and in my life to help women. You can save the unborn without saving the women. I honestly don't give a flying rats arse about making myself look well behaved or whatever the hell you people think a good pro-lifer should behave like.
And seriously, Momma, I've seen some of your posts, you're the last person who should judge.
But honestly, you guys need to stop worrying about what other people think. Seesh! I grew up with the last name "Hancock" you grow up wiht a name like that, everything just slides off your back.
Get over it!
Once again...snicker...

reply from: Rosalie

Oh my gosh! You think I can spell! Oh, you've made my dyslexic day!!
But seriously, you people need to get over yourselves, for profanities sake, this is the interwebs, no abortion minded woman would come to a forum labelled "PRO LIFE AMERICA".
Grow a set and get on with the business of helping women, not ranting and raving about warped senses of humour!
You spell better than Faithman - but then again, almost everyone does.
Your strange sense of self-importance and superiority is hysterical.

reply from: Shenanigans

That's pretty awesome.
Yes. More women dying from abortions because they had no medical supervision is awesome.
Yes. Family planning clinics, who's purpose currently is to provide education on safe sex and promote abortions may end up with the chance to push these abortion pills on women. Yes, that's fantastic.
What you people don't seem to get about NZL is while it doesn't quite work out in practice the reason the abortions are preformed in hospitals is to ensure before the woman gets there she gets some non-biased info, now she will be getting "have an abortion" pamplets from teh same people who want to then follow through with the abortion pill.
This will result in possibly more abortions and dead women.
Real pro-woman of you there.

reply from: Shenanigans

Hehe. If you say so, dear.
You ever see a woman miscarry her 8 week old? 9 week old?
I'm not talking about miscarrying and being unaware, but miscarrying right there in front of you, the blood caming so thick and fast she faints at the sight? You miscarrying naturally, it's a drawn out process and the woman could pass the child into a toilet and be unware.
You throw a drug in there that reeves up the proces, you gonna see it, it hasn't had time to rot down yet.

reply from: Rosalie

Of course that women dying from abortions is not awesome. But in time, there will be a pill that WILL be safe enough for women to take without medical supervision. And that's indeed awesome.
In your little world, I suppose women are always pushed into making decisions YOU disagree with, right?
I have spent a lot of time in Europe and in most countries there there are no facilities like PP. Abortions ARE performed in hospitals by regular OB/GYNs. Everything is fine there. You basically have no point.

reply from: Shenanigans

Glad I could provide you with a laugh.

reply from: Rosalie

I don't know how many 'abortionists' or OB/GYNs have you seen or visited or how much research you have done but I've done a lot of that over the past 15 years so yeah, I do say so.
Which makes your wannabe condescension REALLY funny.
8 week old fetus? Oh yeah. No dead miniature infants in her panties, sorry to burst your bubble.
That is nothing like what I have seen.

reply from: Rosalie

Glad I could provide you with a laugh.
You often do.
I wonder why happend, though, you came here and you sounded smart and reasonable. A couple weeks here and you're a clone.

reply from: yoda

No, because that's where proaborts come from.....

reply from: yoda

Yes, it takes up all her free time.......

reply from: yoda

That's how she "saves babies", by making personal attacks on us.....

reply from: Shenanigans

SO in the mean time we just throw pills at them, pills that have been created for vicious cancer treatment, and a pill that is not really intended for the purpose of termination of pregnacy. In NZL you have to sign a consent form after teh doc has explained to you that this is not intended for use in pregnancy and certainly not intended for use to terminate pregnancy!! A pill that include this following description: Adverse: uterine contratios, cramping, nausea, vomiting, diarrhoea, vagal symptoms, heavy bleeding (common), uterine, rupture, hypotension, rash, fever, headaceh, malaise, infection, uritcaria, erythoderma, erythema, nodosum, episodermal necrolysis, septic sock.
PT INFO: Do not travel far from presecribing centre until complete expulsion is confirmed at follow up appoint 10-14 days after admin.
(Source: MIMS, New Ethicals, Nov, 05. - basically NZL's disepensing guide).
Yeah, NZL is kinda little.
Well, then, yay for Europe. But I'm talking about NZL, and sure our OB/GYNs do abortions, but most of them don't want to be associated with that. The ones that do are known to do so and are usually avoided.
And most women don't go to OB/GYNS unless they need to due to pregnancy complication, the majority of women use midwives.
My point stands.

reply from: Shenanigans

Ah... okay........ a little more explanation would be appreciated? I mean, seriously? You always start hackign away at people's intergrity when they hold the same opinion as some crazy? Just cos there are people who don't beleive in abortion, like I don't believe in abortion, does not make me a clone.
That'd be like saying "you're a clone of CHina's govt - they beleive in abortion too".

reply from: Shenanigans

There's only a certain number of abortionists in NZL so there's really not that many to stalk in my dark balaclava and night vision goggles.
WEll, please to explain what the small foetus with arms, legs, head, was that the OB/GYN showed me in the kidney dish after being removed from the cervix of the woman that it had lodged in as she miscarried.
Well, I guess we have had different experiences.

reply from: Yuuki

That's how she "saves babies", by making personal attacks on us.....
Same way you save babies by attacking Carole!

reply from: 4given

Of course you don't see that, you are not intelligent enough to understand the impact of an unwanted pregnancy that a woman would be forced to continue if you and your fellow abusive misogynists had your way. You're just not. Or you are and you don't give a crap (because nothing is quite as important as a fetus), which is just as frightening and horrifying.
Oh golly.. I am crushed! And you are right.. I couldn't direct another woman to the bloody hall of glory(or is it gory?)! I can't seem to find my way to the pitied death pool. Maybe I should smarten up and ask for your direction.. right?! I suppose.. only thing is I know better than to take direction, word or waste from a sociopath. Especially an angry and reprehensible trollthing. Better woman up to the children you advocate destroying Rosalie. Your obvious animosity is clearly in regard to your own guilt, whether you are willing to admit it or not. YOU are advocating DEATH. YOU are an abortion whore. You perfectly display the very nature of our countries' problem. You are a product of a selfish, reckless generation of death and desire. Wake up! How detestable that you would not respect that other women suffer immensely through the loss and pain of their "choice"!

reply from: Shenanigans

Oh nos!! 4given! That's not very nice! you might make some woman who's pregnant and in crisis who's looking at this site have an abortion!!
The blood of her delayed menses will be on your hands!!

reply from: yoda

Except that I've never attacked her, only her words. Plus, I post photos of a lot of what I do on the "parentprofiles" thread...... so, when are you going to post reports of what YOU do......... eh????

reply from: yoda

Right.... if we don't provide tea and chocolates to all the nasties, some poor woman might decide to kill her baby........

reply from: 4given

Yeah that was pretty rude. My apologies. Shame on me.

reply from: Yuuki

Except that I've never attacked her, only her words. Plus, I post photos of a lot of what I do on the "parentprofiles" thread...... so, when are you going to post reports of what YOU do......... eh????
It's the same thing dude. On the internet, her words are HER. I've never claimed to do pro-life work, and you know that. I have also dicussed many times WHY I don't do any pro-life work. Thirdly, I wouldn't dare post a picture of myself on this forum, not with Faithman around.

reply from: yoda

So..... if you claim it's okay to kill all grandmas, I'm out of line to attack those words because "that is you"? You really don't believe in freedom of speech at all, do you? Hmmm.... sounds like someone needs some tea and chocolates this morning....
And yet you feel qualified to judge other people's prolife work..... kinda like you have no kids, and yet you're an expert on raising kids.... yeah, I know the type......

reply from: Shenanigans

Maaaan, I wish I was a pro-abort hag, then I could get some chocolates. T_T

reply from: Shenanigans

That's alright.
Have some chocolates! Or tea. Or chocolates that taste like tea! Or tea that tastes like chocolates that taste like tea!!

reply from: BossMomma

So..... if you claim it's okay to kill all grandmas, I'm out of line to attack those words because "that is you"? You really don't believe in freedom of speech at all, do you? Hmmm.... sounds like someone needs some tea and chocolates this morning.
I think everyone should have some tea and chocolate in the morning, especially you.

reply from: Shenanigans

They even have sugar free chocolates for diabetics and milk free chocolates for those with a lactose intolerance or milk allergy!
CHOCOLATES FOR EVERYONE!
Unless you don't like chocolates, then you can have some pie.

reply from: BossMomma

That's alright.
Have some chocolates! Or tea. Or chocolates that taste like tea! Or tea that tastes like chocolates that taste like tea!!
Or a nice mocha cappuccino with whipped cream and sprinkles and a chocolate eclaire mmmm..

reply from: yoda

So..... if you claim it's okay to kill all grandmas, I'm out of line to attack those words because "that is you"? You really don't believe in freedom of speech at all, do you? Hmmm.... sounds like someone needs some tea and chocolates this morning....

reply from: yoda

Yeah, weenie will make sure you get some.... t&c, that is......

reply from: fetalisa

The only reason you are so pissed is that since women can get abortions via pills, you have less opportunity to stand outside of clinics and make a general nuisance of yourselves regarding decisions that weren't any of your business to begin with.

reply from: Yuuki

So..... if you claim it's okay to kill all grandmas, I'm out of line to attack those words because "that is you"? You really don't believe in freedom of speech at all, do you? Hmmm.... sounds like someone needs some tea and chocolates this morning....
If someone said that, and you attacked it, then yes you are attacking THEM. I am not assigning a tag of right or wrong to the attack, simply stating that on the net, a person's words are all they have. In that case I'd personally say your attack on them would be justified.
And yet you feel qualified to judge other people's prolife work.....
I've never cooked a fliet mingnon, but I know if it tastes good.
Lol! I never said I was an expert on that, so now you're just flat out lying.

reply from: yoda

If you really don't have the intelligence to separate people from their ideas, then why are you trying to post here?
Do you eat babies? How does that make any sense?

reply from: 4given

That's alright.
Have some chocolates! Or tea. Or chocolates that taste like tea! Or tea that tastes like chocolates that taste like tea!!Or a nice mocha cappuccino with whipped cream and sprinkles and a chocolate eclaire mmmm..
Venti quad peppermint mocha with 1% and whip @ 145.. (degrees)
*Planned Parenthood receives more than $330,000,000 in taxpayer money each year. They kill more human fetuses than anyone in America. -Abort73.com*

reply from: Shenanigans

We only ahve two abortion clinics in NZL and I live no where near them.
Abortions are done in hospitals, so the lifers here don't tend to stand outside them, we tend to do work in the trenches by providing what women need. And women don't really need to be posioned by a pill pro-choice to kill unborn children idiots are hearlding as some wonder cure all.
Did you hear, RU486 can even wash your car, mow your lawn and cooked a huge roast for all your friends and family!

reply from: Yuuki

If you really don't have the intelligence to separate people from their ideas, then why are you trying to post here?
On the internet, all we have is each other's words. I do not know "you" in real life. I only know what you have written here. I'm sure there is a lot you have omitted, exaggerated and/or changed about yourself, whether on purpose or not. And I'm not judging that. However, all I know you for is what you have written here. Your words are YOU on this forum. I'm not saying that's all you are in real life; but on this forum, you are your words. Who you are is interpreted through what you type. Maybe you're a warm cuddly teddy bear man in real life. But on this forum, you are a barbed wire lozenge. That's who you are to me. And if I attack your words, I am attacking "you" as I know you to be.
Do you eat babies? How does that make any sense?
You said that I could not possibly know if someone's pro-life work is good or not if I hadn't done any myself. I just proved to you that someone does not necessarily have had to DO something to realise if it is good or not.

reply from: nancyu

Yeah that was pretty rude. My apologies. Shame on me.
Don't you dare apologize for that great post. Keep up the good work sista ACE!

reply from: nancyu

They even have sugar free chocolates for diabetics and milk free chocolates for those with a lactose intolerance or milk allergy!
CHOCOLATES FOR EVERYONE!
Unless you don't like chocolates, then you can have some pie.
Weehee! Tea and chocolates all around! (again!)
I made this dessert this morning. It is delish!
http://www.peanutbutterlovers.com/recipes/pudding.html
It'll be great with a cup of tea!

reply from: yoda

Only a paranoid fool would take such an "attack" as a personal attack. I feel sorry for you that you can't discern the difference between an idea and a person.
Actually, I said no such thing. Go back and read it again.
You fools who don't do any prolife activism and yet presume to tell those of us who do it how we ought to do it are simply small minded egotists. Walk a mile or two in our shoes before you run your mouth off.

reply from: Yuuki

Only a paranoid fool would take such an "attack" as a personal attack. I feel sorry for you that you can't discern the difference between an idea and a person.
Actually, I said no such thing. Go back and read it again.
You fools who don't do any prolife activism and yet presume to tell those of us who do it how we ought to do it are simply small minded egotists. Walk a mile or two in our shoes before you run your mouth off.
You said that I have no right to judge other's works because I haven't done any. I judge filet mignon though I haven't cooked any. Still relevant, still exactly the same, and you STILL have no valid point.

reply from: yoda

You DON'T EAT BABIES, DO YOU?
HAVE YOU SAVED ANY BABIES?????
HAVE YOU EVEN TRIED TO SAVE ANY BABIES????

reply from: Yuuki

You DON'T EAT BABIES, DO YOU?
HAVE YOU SAVED ANY BABIES?????
HAVE YOU EVEN TRIED TO SAVE ANY BABIES????
Have I? I think so, yes actually. Back when I was pro-choice, I did actually discuss with a few women that they seemed very unsure about their decisions to abort, and that perhaps they should seek help elsewhere, away from the negative influenecs. So I've probably saved a baby or two. And I managed to do it without calling the women scancs.
You attempt to discredit my comparison is hilarious, especially since it's got you foaming at the mouth.

reply from: yoda

And now that you're "no longer prochoice" you don't do that anymore?
Your comparison of trying to save babies and eating steak was beyond disgusting.
What do you find funny about comparing saving babies to eating steak?

reply from: BossMomma

PARTY TIME!!
Can I have coffee with my chocolates? Never really cared for tea..unless it's chai, can I have chai"

reply from: Yuuki

And now that you're "no longer prochoice" you don't do that anymore?
Not what I was implying at all. Simply proving that even when I was pro-choice, I was not pro-abortion.

reply from: nancyu

Honestly. I don't care. I"m not here to win friends and influence people. If people are going to judge the pro-life movement based on my twisted gallows humour they've got a screw loose and don't have the set to just accept the reality of the issue not the individuals involved. If you're going to be pro-life, pro-choice to kill unborn children, or pro-fence sitter, then do so because of the evidence you think you have, not because of weirdos like me or crazies or red necks.
The more I see of the pro-choice to kill unborn children crowd the more I see sick idiots who have no grasp of biology, medical science, the socio-economic purposes or psychological obiliteration it causes women.
And the pro-abort movement make more "blanket statements" about pro-lifers all the time, and they're commentary tends to involve sniper rifles and explosives!
I stand by my comments.
Hell, I can add to it, maybe we should refer to killing lambs with booties abaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaartion.
Pro-Mutton, Pro-Lamb, Pro-Choice.
Keep abaaaaaaartion safe, legal and tasty.
Keep your sheers off of my body.
Don't like abaaaaaartion, don't have Irish stew!
hahahaha, Now I get the signature!

reply from: nancyu

Oh my gosh! You think I can spell! Oh, you've made my dyslexic day!!
But seriously, you people need to get over yourselves, for profanities sake, this is the interwebs, no abortion minded woman would come to a forum labelled "PRO LIFE AMERICA".
Grow a set and get on with the business of helping women, not ranting and raving about warped senses of humour!
You spell better than Faithman - but then again, almost everyone does.
Your strange sense of self-importance and superiority is hysterical.
Why does Rosalie talk to herself so much?

reply from: nancyu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viEn9KL8F6I

reply from: yoda

Have you informed all the dictionaries that they two terms actually don't mean the same thing? How could the be so wrong?

reply from: Yuuki

Have you informed all the dictionaries that they two terms actually don't mean the same thing? How could the be so wrong?
You know I consider the terms to be different for clarity's sake. I consider someone pro-choice if they truly believe it is the woman's choice and do not pressure her one way or the other. Someone who is pro-abortion PROMOTES abortion as the best solution in all cases except perfect, wanted babies in perfectly economically sound homes.

reply from: yoda

I prefer to use "mainstream" English, rather than "Yuuki's" English. I find it easier to communicate with larger numbers of people that way.
But back to what we were discussing..... would it be correct to assume that these women you spoke with about abortion were personal acquaintances? If so, would it be correct to conclude that you have limited your efforts to save babies to your personal acquaintances? And would you ever consider extending those efforts to people whom you aren't acquainted with? Like complete strangers, for instance?

reply from: BossMomma

ba·by (bb)
n. pl. ba·bies
1.
a. A very young child; an infant.
b. An unborn child; a fetus.
c. The youngest member of a family or group.
d. A very young animal.
2. An adult or young person who behaves in an infantile way.
3. Slang A girl or young woman.
4. Informal Sweetheart; dear. Used as a term of endearment.
5. Slang An object of personal concern or interest: Keeping the boat in good repair is your baby.
adj. bab·i·er, bab·i·est
1. Of or having to do with a baby.
2. Infantile or childish.
3. Small in comparison with others of the same kind: baby vegetables.
tr.v. ba·bied, ba·by·ing, ba·bies
To pamper like a baby; coddle. See Synonyms at pamper.
fe·tus (fts)
n. pl. fe·tus·es
1. The unborn young of a viviparous vertebrate having a basic structural resemblance to the adult animal.
2. In humans, the unborn young from the end of the eighth week after conception to the moment of birth, as distinguished from the earlier embryo.
child (chld)
n. pl. chil·dren (chldrn)
1. A person between birth and puberty.
2.
a. An unborn infant; a fetus.
b. An infant; a baby.
3. One who is childish or immature.
4. A son or daughter; an offspring.
5. A member of a tribe; descendant: children of Abraham.
6.
a. An individual regarded as strongly affected by another or by a specified time, place, or circumstance: a child of nature; a child of the Sixties.
b. A product or result of something specified: "Times Square is a child of the 20th century" Richard F. Shepard.
Idiom:
with child
Pregnant.
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Need it be any more clearly defined?

reply from: Yuuki

I prefer to use "mainstream" English, rather than "Yuuki's" English. I find it easier to communicate with larger numbers of people that way.
But back to what we were discussing..... would it be correct to assume that these women you spoke with about abortion were personal acquaintances? If so, would it be correct to conclude that you have limited your efforts to save babies to your personal acquaintances? And would you ever consider extending those efforts to people whom you aren't acquainted with? Like complete strangers, for instance?
I have not purposely limited myself to personal aquaintances. These were in fact complete strangers on the internet. There needs to be a way to differentiate from a "true" pro-choicer and one who is actually for pushing abortion more than the woman's choice.


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