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I'm a supporter of pro-choice

by: gomma

I am a supporter of Pro-choice and I believe by giving women the right to terminate an unwanted, unplanned, or physically hazardous pregnancy, we allow them the same rights as all other people in all other medical and social conditions. Forcing them to carry to full term jeopardizes their ability to have a healthy and fulfilling life.

reply from: Banned Member

96% of all abortions have nothing to do with the health of the mother or the child.
That means 4% could be deemed health exceptions. Fewer still are related to rape or incest.
You cannot justify the horrible rule of abortion with a few pathetic exceptions.

reply from: faithman

Then you are a pro-death monster who should be in prison or hung from a lamp pole. you can hide your evil behind your "what ifs" all you like. But everyone who has had a hand in this human tragedy deserve to be punished. That includes degenerates like you.

reply from: faithman

What ever killer. There are enough lamp poles for the lot of you.

reply from: lukesmom

Just thought I would get rid of the pc crap and actually use REAL wording. Doesn't sound so "nice" now, does it? Gomma, you are personally responsible for the extermination of millions of human beings. I wouldn't be so proud and self rightous if I were you.

reply from: 4given

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reply from: BossMomma

Welcome to the dung heap that is Pro-Life America, I disagree with your stance on abortion and feel that improving contraception and making sterilization on demand more obtainable are better choices than abortion. Abortion destroys a human child.

reply from: 4given

Just thought I would get rid of the pc crap and actually use REAL wording.
Something the proaborts often fail to do.

reply from: faithman

http://www.100abortionpictures.com/Aborted_Baby_Pictures_Abortion_Photos/Enlargement.cfm?ID=101
http://www.100abortionpictures.com/Aborted_Baby_Pictures_Abortion_Photos/Enlargement.cfm?ID=102
http://www.100abortionpictures.com/Aborted_Baby_Pictures_Abortion_Photos/Enlargement.cfm?ID=51
http://www.100abortionpictures.com/Aborted_Baby_Pictures_Abortion_Photos/Enlargement.cfm?ID=43
http://www.100abortionpictures.com/Aborted_Baby_Pictures_Abortion_Photos/Enlargement.cfm?ID=78
YOU HATER!!! HOW DARE YOUSHOW THE TRUTH ABOUT ABORTION!!!! That is just not nice at all. Now pet the little borty on the head, and give it tea and chocolate.

reply from: Banned Member

http://www.100abortionpictures.com/Aborted_Baby_Pictures_Abortion_Photos/images/abortedbaby29.jpg

reply from: 4given

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YOU HATER!!! HOW DARE YOUSHOW THE TRUTH ABOUT ABORTION!!!! That is just not nice at all.
Is that the word for it? if so then there is a lot more hating that needs to be done..

reply from: faithman

Psa 139:20 For they speak against thee wickedly, [and] thine enemies take [thy name] in vain.
Psa 139:21 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
Psa 139:22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.

reply from: BossMomma

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Hi Momma, I'm Spin and I will join you in your dung-heap as I feel that we can always link elbows and agree that education, contraception, and sterilization are the way to ensure that every child arrives on this planet loved and WANTED.
Indeed it always saddens me that there are unwanted children, I always find myself wondering how people can not want their babies? I always bonded with mine the minute I found I was carrying them (huge maternal instinct). I am also horrified by what some do to their born children, how people can starve, beat, rape and, brutally kill them (Caley Anthony and Riley Ann Sawyer come to mind).

reply from: faithman

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Hi Momma, I'm Spin and I will join you in your dung-heap as I feel that we can always link elbows and agree that education, contraception, and sterilization are the way to ensure that every child arrives on this planet loved and WANTED.
Indeed it always saddens me that there are unwanted children, I always find myself wondering how people can not want their babies? I always bonded with mine the minute I found I was carrying them (huge maternal instinct). I am also horrified by what some do to their born children, how people can starve, beat, rape and, brutally kill them (Caley Anthony and Riley Ann Sawyer come to mind).
HHHHHHMMMMMMMM and just what penalty roe-ti-eer [ck sp] get for stabbing her born children to death?

reply from: BossMomma

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Hi Momma, I'm Spin and I will join you in your dung-heap as I feel that we can always link elbows and agree that education, contraception, and sterilization are the way to ensure that every child arrives on this planet loved and WANTED.
Indeed it always saddens me that there are unwanted children, I always find myself wondering how people can not want their babies? I always bonded with mine the minute I found I was carrying them (huge maternal instinct). I am also horrified by what some do to their born children, how people can starve, beat, rape and, brutally kill them (Caley Anthony and Riley Ann Sawyer come to mind).
HHHHHHMMMMMMMM and just what penalty roe-ti-eer [ck sp] get for stabbing her born children to death?
Life in prison I should think, who stabbed their born children to death?

reply from: Banned Member

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reply from: Banned Member

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Hi Momma, I'm Spin and I will join you in your dung-heap as I feel that we can always link elbows and agree that education, contraception, and sterilization are the way to ensure that every child arrives on this planet loved and WANTED.
Can I join too?

reply from: lukesmom

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Hi Momma, I'm Spin and I will join you in your dung-heap as I feel that we can always link elbows and agree that education, contraception, and sterilization are the way to ensure that every child arrives on this planet loved and WANTED.
Indeed it always saddens me that there are unwanted children, I always find myself wondering how people can not want their babies? I always bonded with mine the minute I found I was carrying them (huge maternal instinct). I am also horrified by what some do to their born children, how people can starve, beat, rape and, brutally kill them (Caley Anthony and Riley Ann Sawyer come to mind).
There are no "unwanted" infants in the US which is why those who wish to adopt have to look for a child overseas.

reply from: scopia19822

"There are no "unwanted" infants in the US which is why those who wish to adopt have to look for a child overseas."
Sadly the same cant be said about older children here in the USA that are in desperate need of permanant homes/families. These people want puppies not the mutt so they will go overseas to look for the puppy they want.

reply from: Rosalie

I'll never get tired of these displays of pro-lifeness. Shows exactly what kind of people most of you are.
As opposed to ... inhuman child? Is there such thing? Why the redundant words?
Probably because if you really do not want to be pregnant and/or do not want to be a parent, you do not bond with children the way you do when it's something you want. It's logical and it's pretty natural. Not everyone is meant to have kids, not everyone should have them and I honestly and strongly believe that no one should have to bear children they do not want to bear.
I have been maternal towards kids ever since I was a kid myself. There's nothing in this world I love more than my child. We, too, have bonded immediately and it was absolutely amazing. I cannot put to words how wonderful it was, actually. But I absolutely respect people who do not feel the same way. We are all different.
I think it'd also be fair to state at this point that there are women who cannot, for some reason, bond their with children - and they are often women who have wanted to have kids more than anything in the world and then they actually experience trouble bonding with them. I wish there were more Doulas to help these women, all women, and make their pregnancy/childbirth/post-partum experience as stellar as possible.

reply from: BossMomma

As opposed to ... inhuman child? Is there such thing? Why the redundant words?
If nit picking my choice of words is the best you can do you're grasping at straws. The fact of the matter remains, abortion kills a child.

reply from: Rosalie

Well, what you said was nonsensical. I care. Sue me.
And I see you ignored everything else I said. Another job well done by a pro-lifer, I see.

reply from: lukesmom

As opposed to ... inhuman child? Is there such thing? Why the redundant words?
So then you are agreeing finally that abortion kills a child as you say "human child" is redundant? A child is a person, is it not? Wasn't it you who posted

reply from: BossMomma

Well, what you said was nonsensical. I care. Sue me.
And I see you ignored everything else I said. Another job well done by a pro-lifer, I see.
What did I ignore? I responded to every part of your brief, sarcastic little biotchfest.

reply from: scopia19822

"What did I ignore? I responded to every part of your brief, sarcastic little biotchfest."
Maybe if she drinks some prune juice she wont be as cranky.

reply from: 4given

Sadly older children are more difficult to place. You have to understand, as I am sure you do, that many are so emotionally, physically and sexually damaged due to the abuse that led to their placement. Not many have the resources available or meet the requirements to adopt them. One has to have a home study completed along with health and home inspections. They have to have a clean criminal record and medical. The state does not provide adoption subsidies unless the child is permanently disabled or has a history of medical or emotional problems. Evben so the subsidy until 18 would be around $13 per day. The reason why many go through agencies for international adoptions is because the cost of a domestic adoption is so high. We looked into both. To have a healthy US child (age 0-2) would mean up to $30,000. To adopt a girl from China costs $4000 and they will deliver her. Something has to be done to change the law in regard to adoption. The costs should be far lower for those willing to adopt.

reply from: BossMomma

Yeah, being that full of crap can effect your disposition.

reply from: yoda

True. But women bound for the abortuary are not carrying "older children".

reply from: 4given

True. But women bound for the abortuary are not carrying "older children".
I was responding to this statement:

reply from: Rosalie

Your belligerence is amusing. And actually no, you didn't. I made some points about why there are women who do not bond with their kids - or is that *****est to you, too?
Seems to me like you have just responded to another post you did not understand. What a surprise!
Comments like this one always re-assure me that you people really are just as vile and primitive as we think you are.
This is remarkable. You really ARE so stupid, you are not pretending it!
I'll try to type slowly for you.
All oranges are fruits. So oranges = fruits. But fruits != oranges because there are MORE KINDS OF FRUIT.
Same with humans and mammals.
All humans are mammals. Humans = mammals. But mammals != humans because humans are not the only mammals out there.
Go back to school and use more organs than just your uterus - for example your brain. It might come in handy.

reply from: BossMomma

Your belligerence is amusing. And actually no, you didn't. I made some points about why there are women who do not bond with their kids - or is that *****est to you, too?
Seems to me like you have just responded to another post you did not understand. What a surprise!
Comments like this one always re-assure me that you people really are just as vile and primitive as we think you are. .
Well I do aim to please at least one person a day..today just ain't your day. Now when you find another response to those proving you wrong besides " You just don't understand!" we can maybe try again. Maybe you ought to go back to school and take a course on debate, then actually research facts on the topic at hand and, you might have a leg to stand on. As it is you've been cut off at the knees and buried alive.

reply from: LisaAnne

Abortion truly is horrible. If we could ever show America an abortion on TV, I think abortion would end overnight.

reply from: carolemarie

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Hi Momma, I'm Spin and I will join you in your dung-heap as I feel that we can always link elbows and agree that education, contraception, and sterilization are the way to ensure that every child arrives on this planet loved and WANTED.
Indeed it always saddens me that there are unwanted children, I always find myself wondering how people can not want their babies? I always bonded with mine the minute I found I was carrying them (huge maternal instinct). I am also horrified by what some do to their born children, how people can starve, beat, rape and, brutally kill them (Caley Anthony and Riley Ann Sawyer come to mind).
HHHHHHMMMMMMMM and just what penalty roe-ti-eer [ck sp] get for stabbing her born children to death?
Life in prison I should think, who stabbed their born children to death?
Do you mean Darlie Routier? She got the death penalty, but says she is innocent.

reply from: rsg007

True. But women bound for the abortuary are not carrying "older children".
So you'd rather the older children already in desperate need of adoption or fostering spent even longer waiting for this because more infants are available?
That is a clear disregard for the well-being of born children and an inexcusable preference for unborn ones. Why do pro-lifers see the chance for life as more important than quality of life for those already here?
The point is to REDUCE the amount of unwanted children in the world. Your twisting of the point is such a classic pro-life tactic.

reply from: yoda

And your way of reducing that number is to kill some of them, right? The proabort mantra "Every child a wanted child" can ONLY be acheived by killing the "unwanted ones", right?
The "point" to me is to stop killing children.

reply from: rsg007

And your way of reducing that number is to kill some of them, right? The proabort mantra "Every child a wanted child" can ONLY be acheived by killing the "unwanted ones", right?
The "point" to me is to stop killing children.
And to allow those already born to suffer. Answer my point: How are there going to be enough adoptive or foster parents for the older kids if more and more unwanted infants are born? There are enough unwanted kids in the world--more do not need to be born. To you, it's worse for an unborn child to be aborted. To me, it's worse for a born one to live in pain and suffering. Ask most rational people--they'll side with me.

reply from: faithman

And your way of reducing that number is to kill some of them, right? The proabort mantra "Every child a wanted child" can ONLY be acheived by killing the "unwanted ones", right?
The "point" to me is to stop killing children.
And to allow those already born to suffer. Answer my point: How are there going to be enough adoptive or foster parents for the older kids if more and more unwanted infants are born? There are enough unwanted kids in the world--more do not need to be born. To you, it's worse for an unborn child to be aborted. To me, it's worse for a born one to live in pain and suffering. Ask most rational people--they'll side with me.
What the bortheads, and the false pro-lifers do not understand, is that there is more to life than this physical world, and our physical bodies. Our bodies are merely the containers of the precious substance Called life. Life has to have that container to express itself in the natural world. Even if the container is flawed, it still makes it possible for the miracle of life to be expressed. Our common value is not found in the container, but what is contained. The life of a womb child is equal to the life contained in all of us. The only legitimate breaking of this container, is if it has the compunction to smash other containers without cause. When you take way the ability to express life, you loose the great privilege to express your own. Evil aggression must be subdued, or no container can have any security from unjust breakage. To take away the possibility of this wonderful spark of life to be expressed, makes this world a darker place, and the rest of us containers a little more impoverished, and alone. Though the womb child is a small container, it does not lessen the value of the life it contains. If fellow containers do not value the life of the womb child container, then they have placed their personhood container in great jeopardy. Anyone who does not see that womb children are fellow human containers, containing life of equal value to their own, is a self destructive fool, drunk on the power to kill, and must be stopped for the sake of the rest of us life containers. It is the life in us that makes us equal, not our degree of ability to express it.

reply from: yoda

Nope. You can be merciful to BOTH unborn AND born kids. You DON'T HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN THEM!! You don't have to CONDEMN ONE OR THE OTHER TO DEATH!!
By helping adoption agencies advertise more widely, by helping foster parents more, by doing all the things you would agree with to help adoption agencies and still NOT KILLING BABIES! Many parents want to adopt newborns and will not even consider adopting older kids, so there is no reason to kill unborn kids just to make you happy!
UNBORN KIDS ARE ALREADY "IN THE WORLD"..... AND YOU WANT THEM KILLED!!

reply from: rsg007

Nope. You can be merciful to BOTH unborn AND born kids. You DON'T HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN THEM!! You don't have to CONDEMN ONE OR THE OTHER TO DEATH!!
By helping adoption agencies advertise more widely, by helping foster parents more, by doing all the things you would agree with to help adoption agencies and still NOT KILLING BABIES! Many parents want to adopt newborns and will not even consider adopting older kids, so there is no reason to kill unborn kids just to make you happy!
UNBORN KIDS ARE ALREADY "IN THE WORLD"..... AND YOU WANT THEM KILLED!!
No, they're in the womb, and I don't want them killed. This whole argument is interesting but not really pertinent to my stance on abortion. I only got involved because you deliberately misdirected the point about older kids being harder to adopt.
It's the woman's choice whether or not to abort and it will remain her choice for at least as long as you live. And that just kills you doesn't it?

reply from: Yuuki

No, they're in the womb, and I don't want them killed. This whole argument is interesting but not really pertinent to my stance on abortion. I only got involved because you deliberately misdirected the point about older kids being harder to adopt.
It's the woman's choice whether or not to abort and it will remain her choice for at least as long as you live. And that just kills you doesn't it?
We have another one who believes the womb is an alternate dimension!

reply from: faithman

No, they're in the womb, and I don't want them killed. This whole argument is interesting but not really pertinent to my stance on abortion. I only got involved because you deliberately misdirected the point about older kids being harder to adopt.
It's the woman's choice whether or not to abort and it will remain her choice for at least as long as you live. And that just kills you doesn't it?
We have another one who believes the womb is an alternate dimension!
Thats like saying if you are in your house, you are not in the city.

reply from: rsg007

No, they're in the womb, and I don't want them killed. This whole argument is interesting but not really pertinent to my stance on abortion. I only got involved because you deliberately misdirected the point about older kids being harder to adopt.
It's the woman's choice whether or not to abort and it will remain her choice for at least as long as you live. And that just kills you doesn't it?
We have another one who believes the womb is an alternate dimension!
Obviously that's not what I meant. But if you think being attached to your mother inside her womb is the same thing as living independently in the world then you're the delusional one.

reply from: faithman

No, they're in the womb, and I don't want them killed. This whole argument is interesting but not really pertinent to my stance on abortion. I only got involved because you deliberately misdirected the point about older kids being harder to adopt.
It's the woman's choice whether or not to abort and it will remain her choice for at least as long as you live. And that just kills you doesn't it?
We have another one who believes the womb is an alternate dimension!
Obviously that's not what I meant. But if you think being attached to your mother inside her womb is the same thing as living independently in the world then you're the delusional one.
Poor little scanc got caught, and is now trying to back track....

reply from: yoda

YEPPERS....... I can hear the theme song of Rod Serling's "Twilight Zone" playing in the background....
http://www.scifi.com/twilightzone/

reply from: yoda

That's not what you said, sweetie-pie..... you said they were not "in the world"..... so that puts them in an alternate universe/deminsion.....

reply from: rsg007

That's not what you said, sweetie-pie..... you said they were not "in the world"..... so that puts them in an alternate universe/deminsion.....
I was trying to point out the difference between being physically dependent on another human being and being physically independent out in the world, ass****-pie.
Obviously the nuances of the definition of "in the world" are lost on you.

reply from: faithman

That's not what you said, sweetie-pie..... you said they were not "in the world"..... so that puts them in an alternate universe/deminsion.....
I was trying to point out the difference between being physically dependent on another human being and being physically independent out in the world, ass****-pie.
Obviously the nuances of the definition of "in the world" are lost on you.
Bringing pro-death scancalation to a new hight.

reply from: rsg007

No, they're in the womb, and I don't want them killed. This whole argument is interesting but not really pertinent to my stance on abortion. I only got involved because you deliberately misdirected the point about older kids being harder to adopt.
It's the woman's choice whether or not to abort and it will remain her choice for at least as long as you live. And that just kills you doesn't it?
We have another one who believes the womb is an alternate dimension!
Thats like saying if you are in your house, you are not in the city.
Which is true, if you live in a village.

reply from: yoda

Excellent idea. But the present administration will not allow it.

reply from: yoda

Hmm... you are so used to using euphemisms that you just couldn't bring yourself to discuss "physical dependence", right? You just had to use a euphemism that YOU thought referred to that, right? Hmmm.....
Well, I hate to be the one to break it to you, but "in the world" has nothing to do with dependence or independence, sweetie-pie.
Oh, and btw....... what does physical dependence have to do with the right to life? Do you consider all physically dependent people to be unworthy of life?

reply from: RiverMoonLady

What ever killer. There are enough lamp poles for the lot of you.
OH, NO! The supreme champion of the PRO-LIFE cause advocated violence and murder AGAIN!!!!! HYPOCRITE!!!

reply from: scopia19822

"What people are physically dependent on a person? "
Minor children.

reply from: Yuuki

Oh please. Obviously being literally attached to the woman is totally different from being a born child and no one is going to debate that. But being attached in that way doesn't give anyone the right to KILL the child just because Mommy doesn't want him anymore.

reply from: Shenanigans

Please explain what other group of people are given the right to kill their children if they jeopdardise their ability to have a healthy and fulfilling life?
How far does your "pro-choice [to kill unborn childre]ness" extend? Right up till birth?
Define physically hazardous pregnancy.

reply from: rsg007

Hmm... you are so used to using euphemisms that you just couldn't bring yourself to discuss "physical dependence", right? You just had to use a euphemism that YOU thought referred to that, right? Hmmm.....
Well, I hate to be the one to break it to you, but "in the world" has nothing to do with dependence or independence, sweetie-pie.
Oh, and btw....... what does physical dependence have to do with the right to life? Do you consider all physically dependent people to be unworthy of life?
I have no problem discussing physical dependence. My usage of "in the world" seems to have been pretty clear to most here. It's not my fault you don't understand the difference between an unborn child who is attached to and physcially dependent on his mother and a born child who is not.
And I only consider unborn children who are physically attached to and dependent on their mother's body to be unworthy of life.

reply from: nancyu

Hmm... you are so used to using euphemisms that you just couldn't bring yourself to discuss "physical dependence", right? You just had to use a euphemism that YOU thought referred to that, right? Hmmm.....
Well, I hate to be the one to break it to you, but "in the world" has nothing to do with dependence or independence, sweetie-pie.
Oh, and btw....... what does physical dependence have to do with the right to life? Do you consider all physically dependent people to be unworthy of life?
I have no problem discussing physical dependence. My usage of "in the world" seems to have been pretty clear to most here. It's not my fault you don't understand the difference between an unborn child who is attached to and physcially dependent on his mother and a born child who is not.
And I only consider unborn children who are physically attached to and dependent on their mother's body to be unworthy of life.
So if YOU were pregnant with a child. YOU would consider YOUR child UNWORTHY OF LIFE?

reply from: yoda

REally? Did you take a poll? How do you figure that, because only two of us brought it up? A lot of people here just ignore your posts, maybe that's it?
Oh, I do..... but I fail to see how that makes the former "disposable" and the latter "not disposable".
Yeah, you're a true blue rabid proabort all right.

reply from: nsanford

Unworthy of life? Sure you don't want to change that. Because that's the height of stupidity, and I'm pro-choice.

reply from: rsg007

Hmm... you are so used to using euphemisms that you just couldn't bring yourself to discuss "physical dependence", right? You just had to use a euphemism that YOU thought referred to that, right? Hmmm.....
Well, I hate to be the one to break it to you, but "in the world" has nothing to do with dependence or independence, sweetie-pie.
Oh, and btw....... what does physical dependence have to do with the right to life? Do you consider all physically dependent people to be unworthy of life?
I have no problem discussing physical dependence. My usage of "in the world" seems to have been pretty clear to most here. It's not my fault you don't understand the difference between an unborn child who is attached to and physcially dependent on his mother and a born child who is not.
And I only consider unborn children who are physically attached to and dependent on their mother's body to be unworthy of life.
So if YOU were pregnant with a child. YOU would consider YOUR child UNWORTHY OF LIFE?
If I were pregnant, I would realize that my rights supersede the rights of my unborn child, and if I wanted to abort I would do so.

reply from: rsg007

Unworthy of life? Sure you don't want to change that. Because that's the height of stupidity, and I'm pro-choice.
Yes, it's not the best choice of words, but they weren't mine, they were Yodavater's and I was responding to his post. It's the same thing as saying "doesn't have a right to life"--he just twisted it to sound immoral.

reply from: faithman

Unworthy of life? Sure you don't want to change that. Because that's the height of stupidity, and I'm pro-choice.
Yes, it's not the best choice of words, but they weren't mine, they were Yodavater's and I was responding to his post. It's the same thing as saying "doesn't have a right to life"--he just twisted it to sound immoral.
Now look whos not on the same page!!!! snicker!!! At least the scum bag scanc is honest.

reply from: rsg007

REally? Did you take a poll? How do you figure that, because only two of us brought it up? A lot of people here just ignore your posts, maybe that's it?
For one, Yuuki seemed to have immediately realized what I was talking about, unless I misunderstood her post.
Oh, I do..... but I fail to see how that makes the former "disposable" and the latter "not disposable".
It's not "disposable," but rather "without the same rights" as a born child.
Yeah, you're a true blue rabid proabort all right.
Indeed, I am rabidly supportive of the fact a woman's rights supersede her unborn child's.

reply from: faithman

REally? Did you take a poll? How do you figure that, because only two of us brought it up? A lot of people here just ignore your posts, maybe that's it?
For one, Yuuki seemed to have immediately realized what I was talking about, unless I misunderstood her post.
Oh, I do..... but I fail to see how that makes the former "disposable" and the latter "not disposable".
It's not "disposable," but rather "without the same rights" as a born child.
Yeah, you're a true blue rabid proabort all right.
Indeed, I am rabidly supportive of the fact a woman's rights supersede her unborn child's.
In other words a low life scanc has the "right" to slaughter her own child!!!

reply from: rsg007

REally? Did you take a poll? How do you figure that, because only two of us brought it up? A lot of people here just ignore your posts, maybe that's it?
For one, Yuuki seemed to have immediately realized what I was talking about, unless I misunderstood her post.
Oh, I do..... but I fail to see how that makes the former "disposable" and the latter "not disposable".
It's not "disposable," but rather "without the same rights" as a born child.
Yeah, you're a true blue rabid proabort all right.
Indeed, I am rabidly supportive of the fact a woman's rights supersede her unborn child's.
In other words a low life scanc has the "right" to slaughter her own child!!!
She has the right to abort her unborn child, yes. "Slaughter" is a very emotional word. Propaganda much?

reply from: faithman

REally? Did you take a poll? How do you figure that, because only two of us brought it up? A lot of people here just ignore your posts, maybe that's it?
For one, Yuuki seemed to have immediately realized what I was talking about, unless I misunderstood her post.
Oh, I do..... but I fail to see how that makes the former "disposable" and the latter "not disposable".
It's not "disposable," but rather "without the same rights" as a born child.
Yeah, you're a true blue rabid proabort all right.
Indeed, I am rabidly supportive of the fact a woman's rights supersede her unborn child's.
In other words a low life scanc has the "right" to slaughter her own child!!!
She has the right to abort her unborn child, yes. "Slaughter" is a very emotional word. Propaganda much?
Butcher, dismember, tare apart, decapatate,.... Carry an umbrella to keep the earth worms from peeing on you much?

reply from: faithman

http://www.armyofgod.com/Baby12.html click blue text for results.

reply from: Yuuki

Disagreeing that they sky is blue doesn't make it red.

reply from: rsg007

You and your cohorts are always jumping on pro-choicers for using euphemisms or couching what they mean in pretty language. Now you're jumping on me because I think it's silly to hide behind language.
The only moral way to approach abortion is to stand back and respect a woman's right to choose and it doesn't matter what language you use to convey that.

reply from: lycan

rsg007 are you by any chance Lolita Olivia?

reply from: rsg007

No, though I remember her from a while back when I first posted on this board.

reply from: lukesmom

Your belligerence is amusing. And actually no, you didn't. I made some points about why there are women who do not bond with their kids - or is that *****est to you, too?
Seems to me like you have just responded to another post you did not understand. What a surprise!
Comments like this one always re-assure me that you people really are just as vile and primitive as we think you are.
This is remarkable. You really ARE so stupid, you are not pretending it!
I'll try to type slowly for you.
All oranges are fruits. So oranges = fruits. But fruits != oranges because there are MORE KINDS OF FRUIT.
Same with humans and mammals.
All humans are mammals. Humans = mammals. But mammals != humans because humans are not the only mammals out there.
Go back to school and use more organs than just your uterus - for example your brain. It might come in handy.
So after wading through all the stupid, nasty and totally b**chy stuff you posted, you are saying you agree the unborn are human children and you really don't care if they are killed or not. Real nice but then again you show over and over again what sort of person you really are so I shouldn't be surprised...

reply from: lukesmom

And your way of reducing that number is to kill some of them, right? The proabort mantra "Every child a wanted child" can ONLY be acheived by killing the "unwanted ones", right?
The "point" to me is to stop killing children.
And to allow those already born to suffer. Answer my point: How are there going to be enough adoptive or foster parents for the older kids if more and more unwanted infants are born? There are enough unwanted kids in the world--more do not need to be born. To you, it's worse for an unborn child to be aborted. To me, it's worse for a born one to live in pain and suffering. Ask most rational people--they'll side with me.
funny, I believe the proabort industry used to use the rhetoric that abortion would cause every child to be a wanted child and abuse would be obsolete. Funny how the opposite happened and child abuse figures rose after R vs W. Now you are trying to tell us there are "unwanted kids"? How did you proaborts miss them????

reply from: lukesmom

Any mother who breast feeds BEWARE!

reply from: faithman

Your belligerence is amusing. And actually no, you didn't. I made some points about why there are women who do not bond with their kids - or is that *****est to you, too?
Seems to me like you have just responded to another post you did not understand. What a surprise!
Comments like this one always re-assure me that you people really are just as vile and primitive as we think you are.
This is remarkable. You really ARE so stupid, you are not pretending it!
I'll try to type slowly for you.
All oranges are fruits. So oranges = fruits. But fruits != oranges because there are MORE KINDS OF FRUIT.
Same with humans and mammals.
All humans are mammals. Humans = mammals. But mammals != humans because humans are not the only mammals out there.
Go back to school and use more organs than just your uterus - for example your brain. It might come in handy.
So after wading through all the stupid, nasty and totally b**chy stuff you posted, you are saying you agree the unborn are human children and you really don't care if they are killed or not. Real nice but then again you show over and over again what sort of person you really are so I shouldn't be surprised...
So give the little scanc some tea and chocolate compassion. That will change it to pro-life!!!! You can not reason with the unreasonable. Maybe that lesson will sink in sooner or latter. I hope sooner, because while we indulge these girly feel good emotions, the killers mock us on the way to the mills.

reply from: yoda

There are no "emotional words", there are only emotional people.
And slaughter describes how many, many abortions are done. Do you have a problem with that, much?

reply from: yoda

Yeah, that's way too honest, isn't it?

reply from: yoda

If it's the "same thing", then both things are immoral, right?

reply from: yoda

She was the first one to point out how ridiculous your words were... so yeah, she realized what you were saying.
And ONE of those "rights" you say the unborn don't have is the right to life, right? Then if that's so, why is not "disposable"?
How does having "more rights" than another person give you the right to kill that person?

reply from: scopia19822

"Any mother who breast feeds BEWARE!"
I still has to hold the bottle for my son... does that count?

reply from: lukesmom

Nope, he's not physically attached so he lives! Lucky him and you!

reply from: scopia19822

Nope, he's not physically attached so he lives! Lucky him and you!
But the bottle was attached to my hand? Damn.

reply from: Rosalie

Are you seriously that stupid? Minor children ARE NOT physically connected to another person in order to be able to breathe and feed themselves. They are socially dependent on adults; anyone can take care of minor children because they are NOT physically connected and thus dependent on anyone.
Any mother who breast feeds BEWARE!
Aaand you are just as stupid as Scopia. If you could use your brain, you would know that breastfed kids are NOT dependent on their mothers' milk. They can be fed by anyone and it doesn't have to be breastmilk. Breastfeeding is incomparable to pregnancy, they're two absolutely different things but you would need to use a brain to understand that and you're obviously not capable of that.
Do you finally understand that not all mammals are humans or not? Because I'd really like to know. Considering that all you can do is insult, I don't think you do. Remarkable, really.
Sure that fetuses are human, I have never said otherwise and if you actually read my posts, you'd know that. What I care about is the woman making choice for herself. No one, no person, no human, no child, no adult - NO ONE has the right to live off a woman's body AGAINST HER WILL. That's what matters.

reply from: lukesmom

So after wading through all the stupid, nasty and totally b**chy stuff you again posted, you are saying you agree the unborn are human children and you really don't care if they are killed or not. Real nice but then again you show over and over again what sort of person you really are so I shouldn't be surprised...

reply from: micah

Rosalie, these people really don't know how to defend their arguments, so they have to resort to name-calling.

reply from: Yuuki

I can't see any name calling in Lukesmom's post.

reply from: lukesmom

Name calling? St Roz comments:
you are just as stupid as Scopia. If you could use your brain
Are you seriously that stupid
you people really are just as vile and primitive as we think you are.
You really ARE so stupid, you are not pretending it!
And as much as you and other control freaks with abusive tendencies
all right for you to be a judgmental, callous monster
you and the other anti-choice monsters clearly do not have a clue what love, empathy and compassion mean
I didn't even have to hunt for these little gems. Now you what to tell us again about "name calling"?

reply from: scopia19822

"Aaand you are just as stupid as Scopia."
Thanks for the compliment. I would rather be called stupid the likes of you than to be considered part of your so called intelliegent group of people. BTW my IQ is 141, so that isnt exactly a dummy.

reply from: Hosea

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Hi Momma, I'm Spin and I will join you in your dung-heap as I feel that we can always link elbows and agree that education, contraception, and sterilization are the way to ensure that every child arrives on this planet loved and WANTED.
Two million couples remain on the adoption waiting list every year. These children are wanted by someone. You don't kill a three year old because you decide you no longer want to be a mom. That would be a crime and so it should be with younger children and babies , even unborn babies.

reply from: yoda

Birds of a feather....... crap together.....

reply from: Rosalie

I know, I noticed. They are just hitting a new low with every single new comment they make.
YOU of all people complain about name-calling?
"You kill babies. You live with their blood on your hands.I don't care how you justify it, you are still a killer.
...
Hw many "daughters" have you killed and/or condoned killing? How many sons? If you even have a soul, it is [sic] rotton. You want to talk about "disgust"? Look at your blood covered hands, that blood will never rub off, the blood of your children. Now slighter away scum. For the first time I agree with fman's name calling. You deserve every name he has uttered here."
YOU are no one to talk. NO ONE here basically has the right to complain about it because you are one of the rudest, most mean-spirited and monstrous bunch of fanatics who have no standards, no morals and no manners. So you can get off your high horse. I am not going to treat any of you any different from how you treat me.
Oh great! When do you plan on using your brain? Do you think you could involve your heart in the process, too?

reply from: Rosalie

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Hi Momma, I'm Spin and I will join you in your dung-heap as I feel that we can always link elbows and agree that education, contraception, and sterilization are the way to ensure that every child arrives on this planet loved and WANTED.
Two million couples remain on the adoption waiting list every year. These children are wanted by someone. You don't kill a three year old because you decide you no longer want to be a mom. That would be a crime and so it should be with younger children and babies , even unborn babies.
ANYONE can take care of a three year old. It doesn't have to be just ONE person because NO ONE is physically connected to that child and that child is NOT PHYSICALLY CONNECTED to anyone. If a parent can no longer care for the child, there are institutions where they can place their child. Also the child's existence is not infringing upon their bodily integrity or putting their health or life at risk by using their bodily resources and residing inside of their bodies.
Guess what--these differences will not disappear even if you ignore them.

reply from: lukesmom

Oh, our informative little butt nuggett, thank you from the bottom of my heart for straightening this all out for us poor monster, idiot, stupid prolifers! Too bad you are a butt nuggett and forced to hide away. Never mind, know that we love you butt nuggett proaborts here and we try really hard not to pity you in your butt nuggettness...

reply from: lukesmom

Yes, Roz. You better stop your nasty insults here 'cause it is reflecting badly on all the proaborts!

reply from: Rosalie

YOU want to lecture anyone about insults?
Your incredibly stupid insults in every single comment you make take all the credibility from you. As well as the illusion of sanity. I love how you were always trying to come off as reasonable, compassionate person - and then one day you crack and your true self comes out. The manner in which you express yourself is so embarrassing that I almost feel second-hand embarassment when reading your posts.

reply from: faithman

Killers have to blur that line to justify their evil deeds. Darkness avoids light, because it is exposed for what it is in light. The borties want to cover their issue, and as the profetii killer has said herself," fight tooth and toenail" against the light of personhood for the womb child. Personhood is the light. The line drawn in the sand. The distinction between false and true. If things seem shadowy, it is no time to compromise. It is time to turn up the light of personhood until there is no more "what if" shadows. Just the simple fact of womb child personhood, and the final judgment of citizen jurist as to what punishment for those who destroy the preborn. That is the way it is for the born person, that is the way it should be with the womb child person.

reply from: lukesmom

YOU want to lecture anyone about insults?
Your incredibly stupid insults in every single comment you make take all the credibility from you. As well as the illusion of sanity. I love how you were always trying to come off as reasonable, compassionate person - and then one day you crack and your true self comes out. The manner in which you express yourself is so embarrassing that I almost feel second-hand embarassment when reading your posts.
Roz, when you stop calling people here, yes, PEOPLE, monsters, idiots, stupid and all the other nasty little comments you manage to make, I will stop calling you names. Tit for tat. Doesn't feel so good when it is directed at you does it?

reply from: Rosalie

YOU want to lecture anyone about insults?
Your incredibly stupid insults in every single comment you make take all the credibility from you. As well as the illusion of sanity. I love how you were always trying to come off as reasonable, compassionate person - and then one day you crack and your true self comes out. The manner in which you express yourself is so embarrassing that I almost feel second-hand embarassment when reading your posts.
Roz, when you stop calling people here, yes, PEOPLE, monsters, idiots, stupid and all the other nasty little comments you manage to make, I will stop calling you names. Tit for tat. Doesn't feel so good when it is directed at you does it?
Yes, tit for that. I am giving back exactly what I received from you and the likes of you, misogynist.
And I don't care what kind of vulgarities you direct at me. You are only making yourself look moronic. This is all you can do anyway. You are not capable of anything else - only of vulgarities and insults.

reply from: faithman

Oh, our informative little butt nuggett, thank you from the bottom of my heart for straightening this all out for us poor monster, idiot, stupid prolifers! Too bad you are a butt nuggett and forced to hide away. Never mind, know that we love you butt nuggett proaborts here and we try really hard not to pity you in your butt nuggettness...

reply from: lukesmom

YOU want to lecture anyone about insults?
Your incredibly stupid insults in every single comment you make take all the credibility from you. As well as the illusion of sanity. I love how you were always trying to come off as reasonable, compassionate person - and then one day you crack and your true self comes out. The manner in which you express yourself is so embarrassing that I almost feel second-hand embarassment when reading your posts.
Roz, when you stop calling people here, yes, PEOPLE, monsters, idiots, stupid and all the other nasty little comments you manage to make, I will stop calling you names. Tit for tat. Doesn't feel so good when it is directed at you does it?
Yes, tit for that. I am giving back exactly what I received from you and the likes of you, misogynist.
And I don't care what kind of vulgarities you direct at me. You are only making yourself look moronic. This is all you can do anyway. You are not capable of anything else - only of vulgarities and insults.
The Dragon Queen condemns you to the sh*t heap where the rotton belong. "So it is written, so it shall be done."
Too bad our little butt nuggett, you could have contributed to beautiful flowers! Tsk, tsk, nastiness and b*tchiness shall be rewarded with humor!!!

reply from: faithman

Chin up my little butt nuggett. It is hard to be disappointed but to be disappointed when you are part of a sh*t heap must be especially hard. It won't be long now, you are completely rotton and the next stage is desintigration. Hold tight (*).

reply from: Rosalie

You claim to be a grown up woman with children. Is this how adults behave in your neck of the woods? Really?
You are embarrassing yourself but it's probably beyond your brain capacity to even understand that.

reply from: Damikester

Jesus, I thought that maybe this would be a forum with maybe a conscience debate, where people could voice their opinions but ***** me up the ass with a lava dildo I was wrong. You guys are NUTS! This person just said I am pro life and these are my reasons, open debate now, nope, ***** THAT PERSON I HOPE YOU BURN IN HELL.
Jesus Christ so much for having an opinion anymore. You just condemned a person to eternal hellfire where their soul will be tortured unrelentingly forever because oh my god, they want to be able to choose. I hope you guys aren't christian because I am pretty sure Christ was the one to say, he who is without sin shall cast the first stone....well you guys didn't send stones, but instead some of the most hateful remarks and words possible, way to be Christian soldiers of peace and love

reply from: Yuuki

There are many people on this forum who deface Christs' good name, and at least two who are committing illegal acts of cyberstalking. They both claim to be Christian; and clearly they are not. But many of us here are not that vitrolic, and are completely willing to have normal debates without wishing hellfire on anyone

reply from: snapdragon

Really I think this board would be a better and more mature atmosphere if everyone stopped with the juvenile insults.

reply from: Damikester

I think this board would be better if it was filled with more pictures of dead babies, that *****s funny as hell....oooh the shock is supposed to get ya, pleeeeeeeease, I have seen men blown up in front of me, a picture of a dead baby finds itself in the status of amusing compared to true horror.

reply from: faithman

Oh, our informative little butt nuggett, thank you from the bottom of my heart for straightening this all out for us poor monster, idiot, stupid prolifers! Too bad you are a butt nuggett and forced to hide away. Never mind, know that we love you butt nuggett proaborts here and we try really hard not to pity you in your butt nuggettness...

reply from: snapdragon

I think you should seek help for your PTSD.

reply from: micah

I feel the exact same way. Some of the stuff written by FaithMan, LukesMom and others on here is like something I would expect from a 7th grader.


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