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Skeletal remains of small child found near Caylee's home

Horrible, horrible

by: GodsLaw4Us2Live

A utility worker found the skeletal remains of a small child near the home of missing tot Caylee Anthony's family.
In the news articles are pictures of a little girl in a towel or clutching a baby doll, a smile on her face. The human race is scr*wed up and murdering little children.
God says the problem is you, you are evil. It's time to rearrange your way of thinking. Your mind is warped.
Eternal life is only possible by changing the way you think and act. For those who cooperate with the Holy Spirit, a change to one's mind is possible.

reply from: yoda

What do you want to bet that the proaborts will be the first ones to defend her if she is found guilty?

reply from: BossMomma

I feel so sad for that poor girl, I don't know how a woman kills her child then goes out partying afterward.

reply from: faithman

I feel so sad for that poor girl, I don't know how a woman kills her child then goes out partying afterward.
Ask the folks at planned parenthood. They help women do that everyday.

reply from: LiberalChiRo

I'm relieved they finally found the poor girl's body...

reply from: GodsLaw4Us2Live

I feel so sad for that poor girl, I don't know how a woman kills her child then goes out partying afterward.
That's exactly what happened. I understand Caylee's mom was partying down and having a good time after Kaylee disappeared.
A normal person would be completely devastated; unable to keep functioning/living. A normal person would not be able to sleep, eat or concentrate on any activity at hand. A normal person would be totally crushed and in great distress and anguish. A normal mom would be totally consumed with the fact that her daughter was missing.
The Bible says a person was given a conscience for a reason. The Bible says if a person's conscience has been seared with a hot iron and is no longer functioning there is no hope for that person; they are lost forever.

reply from: faithman

I feel so sad for that poor girl, I don't know how a woman kills her child then goes out partying afterward.
That's exactly what happened. I understand Caylee's mom was partying down and having a good time after Kaylee disappeared.
A normal person would be completely devastated; unable to keep functioning/living. A normal person would not be able to sleep, eat or concentrate on any activity at hand. A normal person would be totally crushed and in great distress and anguish. A normal mom would be totally consumed with the fact that her daughter was missing.
A case of criminal insanity? Insted of celebrating the life of the child, this one seems to have been celebrating the death of her child, maybe even by her own hands. Of course CM would say give the gal a lolly pop, and a get out of jail free card.

reply from: GodsLaw4Us2Live

I feel so sad for that poor girl, I don't know how a woman kills her child then goes out partying afterward.
That's exactly what happened. I understand Caylee's mom was partying down and having a good time after Kaylee disappeared.
A normal person would be completely devastated; unable to keep functioning/living. A normal person would not be able to sleep, eat or concentrate on any activity at hand. A normal person would be totally crushed and in great distress and anguish. A normal mom would be totally consumed with the fact that her daughter was missing.
A case of criminal insanity? Insted of celebrating the life of the child, this one seems to have been celebrating the death of her child, maybe even by her own hands. Of course CM would say give the gal a lolly pop, and a get out of jail free card.
A person without a conscience is completely totally worthless. God made us to be our brother's keeper. Our job is to serve others. Anyone with an attitude like Kaylee's mom is useless for fulfilling the job description; "You must love your brother."
You cannot be saved without loving your brother, and that means having a conscience. Again, our purpose is to care for others. Our value comes in that we can love and serve others.

reply from: faithman

I feel so sad for that poor girl, I don't know how a woman kills her child then goes out partying afterward.
That's exactly what happened. I understand Caylee's mom was partying down and having a good time after Kaylee disappeared.
A normal person would be completely devastated; unable to keep functioning/living. A normal person would not be able to sleep, eat or concentrate on any activity at hand. A normal person would be totally crushed and in great distress and anguish. A normal mom would be totally consumed with the fact that her daughter was missing.
A case of criminal insanity? Insted of celebrating the life of the child, this one seems to have been celebrating the death of her child, maybe even by her own hands. Of course CM would say give the gal a lolly pop, and a get out of jail free card.
A person without a conscience is completely totally worthless. God made us to be our brother's keeper. Our job is to serve others. Anyone with an attitude like Kaylee's mom is useless for fulfilling the job description; "You must love your brother."
You cannot be saved without loving your brother, and that means having a conscience. Again, our purpose is to care for others. Our value comes in that we can love and serve others.
No greater love than to lay down our lives....

reply from: AshMarie88

I pray that justice will be fully served for that little girl. No child should ever go thru this.

reply from: GodsLaw4Us2Live

I feel so sad for that poor girl, I don't know how a woman kills her child then goes out partying afterward.
That's exactly what happened. I understand Caylee's mom was partying down and having a good time after Kaylee disappeared.
A normal person would be completely devastated; unable to keep functioning/living. A normal person would not be able to sleep, eat or concentrate on any activity at hand. A normal person would be totally crushed and in great distress and anguish. A normal mom would be totally consumed with the fact that her daughter was missing.
A case of criminal insanity? Insted of celebrating the life of the child, this one seems to have been celebrating the death of her child, maybe even by her own hands. Of course CM would say give the gal a lolly pop, and a get out of jail free card.
A person without a conscience is completely totally worthless. God made us to be our brother's keeper. Our job is to serve others. Anyone with an attitude like Kaylee's mom is useless for fulfilling the job description; "You must love your brother."
You cannot be saved without loving your brother, and that means having a conscience. Again, our purpose is to care for others. Our value comes in that we can love and serve others.
No greater love than to lay down our lives....
John 15:12-14 "This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends. You are my friends if you do whatever I command you."
John 3:36 "He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."

reply from: CharlesD

We live in a society that has cheapened human life, and then we're surprised when things like this happen. If her mother had killed her before birth, people would be celebrating her choice. Sick.

reply from: BossMomma

I feel so sad for that poor girl, I don't know how a woman kills her child then goes out partying afterward.
That's exactly what happened. I understand Caylee's mom was partying down and having a good time after Kaylee disappeared.
A normal person would be completely devastated; unable to keep functioning/living. A normal person would not be able to sleep, eat or concentrate on any activity at hand. A normal person would be totally crushed and in great distress and anguish. A normal mom would be totally consumed with the fact that her daughter was missing.
The Bible says a person was given a conscience for a reason. The Bible says if a person's conscience has been seared with a hot iron and is no longer functioning there is no hope for that person; they are lost forever.
Yeah, I went insane when my ex ran off with my son for 3 months. I walked the streets for days without sleeping, showing people my son's picture and asking if anyone had seen him. I went to the police, CPS, even a private detective trying to find my son and fighting to get him back and I did. How the hell does a woman wait a month before mentioning that her child is missing?

reply from: faithman

I feel so sad for that poor girl, I don't know how a woman kills her child then goes out partying afterward.
That's exactly what happened. I understand Caylee's mom was partying down and having a good time after Kaylee disappeared.
A normal person would be completely devastated; unable to keep functioning/living. A normal person would not be able to sleep, eat or concentrate on any activity at hand. A normal person would be totally crushed and in great distress and anguish. A normal mom would be totally consumed with the fact that her daughter was missing.
A case of criminal insanity? Insted of celebrating the life of the child, this one seems to have been celebrating the death of her child, maybe even by her own hands. Of course CM would say give the gal a lolly pop, and a get out of jail free card.
A person without a conscience is completely totally worthless. God made us to be our brother's keeper. Our job is to serve others. Anyone with an attitude like Kaylee's mom is useless for fulfilling the job description; "You must love your brother."
You cannot be saved without loving your brother, and that means having a conscience. Again, our purpose is to care for others. Our value comes in that we can love and serve others.
No greater love than to lay down our lives....
John 15:12-14 "This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends. You are my friends if you do whatever I command you."
John 3:36 "He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him."
Gosh!!! Haven't you heard? CM has taken John 3:36 out of the bible .

reply from: BossMomma

I feel so sad for that poor girl, I don't know how a woman kills her child then goes out partying afterward.
That's exactly what happened. I understand Caylee's mom was partying down and having a good time after Kaylee disappeared.
A normal person would be completely devastated; unable to keep functioning/living. A normal person would not be able to sleep, eat or concentrate on any activity at hand. A normal person would be totally crushed and in great distress and anguish. A normal mom would be totally consumed with the fact that her daughter was missing.
A case of criminal insanity? Insted of celebrating the life of the child, this one seems to have been celebrating the death of her child, maybe even by her own hands. Of course CM would say give the gal a lolly pop, and a get out of jail free card.
Insanity my ass, that poor little girl was murdered and her mother was sane enough to party. I hope she finds out what happens to baby killers in prison.

reply from: faithman

I feel so sad for that poor girl, I don't know how a woman kills her child then goes out partying afterward.
That's exactly what happened. I understand Caylee's mom was partying down and having a good time after Kaylee disappeared.
A normal person would be completely devastated; unable to keep functioning/living. A normal person would not be able to sleep, eat or concentrate on any activity at hand. A normal person would be totally crushed and in great distress and anguish. A normal mom would be totally consumed with the fact that her daughter was missing.
A case of criminal insanity? Insted of celebrating the life of the child, this one seems to have been celebrating the death of her child, maybe even by her own hands. Of course CM would say give the gal a lolly pop, and a get out of jail free card.
Insanity my ass, that poor little girl was murdered and her mother was sane enough to party. I hope she finds out what happens to baby killers in prison.
But CM would give her a free walk because she is a woman. You must be a dude in drag. Only a man would want a killer that is a woman to go to jail. Fraid you done blowed your cover pal.

reply from: BossMomma

I feel so sad for that poor girl, I don't know how a woman kills her child then goes out partying afterward.
That's exactly what happened. I understand Caylee's mom was partying down and having a good time after Kaylee disappeared.
A normal person would be completely devastated; unable to keep functioning/living. A normal person would not be able to sleep, eat or concentrate on any activity at hand. A normal person would be totally crushed and in great distress and anguish. A normal mom would be totally consumed with the fact that her daughter was missing.
A case of criminal insanity? Insted of celebrating the life of the child, this one seems to have been celebrating the death of her child, maybe even by her own hands. Of course CM would say give the gal a lolly pop, and a get out of jail free card.
Insanity my ass, that poor little girl was murdered and her mother was sane enough to party. I hope she finds out what happens to baby killers in prison.
But CM would give her a free walk because she is a woman. You must be a dude in drag. Only a man would want a killer that is a woman to go to jail. Fraid you done blowed your cover pal.
No, I'm a woman and real women and mothers don't kill their children. If CM or anyone feels sorry for this harpy they are f u cked in the head.

reply from: carolemarie

I never said anything about this case, so stop lying Faithman!
It is so sad, needless tragedy. Poor baby!

reply from: yoda

Here's your chance....... what do you say about this case?

reply from: Teresa18

Look at these quotes from over at Democratic Underground. Apparently, Casey wanted to give the baby up for adoption, and her parents told her to keep Caylee. These quotes are from a discussion about this.



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4630389

Some posters (not all) appear to empathize with her because she didn't want to raise Caylee in the first place. Casey was an adult when she had Caylee. They couldn't force her to keep the child. They may have convinced her, but they couldn't force her. The theme is that motherhood shouldn't be forced onto women. Here's the thing, a woman isn't forced to be a mother unless she is raped. Casey was not raped. Parents have a duty to care for their children until someone else can care for them. Obviously, the biological mother is the only one who can care for a child in the first 9 months of life. Afterwards, the father can care for the child or the child can be given up for adoption. If given up for adoption, those parents have a duty to care for the child. The bottom line is that Casey didn't sign away her parental rights. She kept Caylee, and as her mother, she had a duty to care for her. Not only did she not care for her, she killed her. It's not responsible parenting to kill a child rather than care for him/her. It's more than neglect; it's horrific murder by the very person(s) entrusted to protect a child's life. A couple posters remarked that she would have been better off to abort. Killing one's child is killing one's child, either before birth or after birth. It is horrific murder by the very person entrusted by God to protect a child's life. I saw the tired Planned Parenthood slogan, "Every child a wanted child." That's why people need to keep in mind that a child can be concieved when they have sex. Once that child is concieved, once one is a parent, one has the duty to care for one's child child until someone else can care for him/her whether wanted or not. The value of a human life is not based on subjective feelings. If that was put into play, "unwanteds" in society could be killed at whim.
Caylee was a beautiful little girl, and while her life was cut short, I believe God had a purpose for her. May she RIP.

reply from: LiberalChiRo

Christ, that phrase makes me want to punch things these days... And I used to be pro-abortion-rights. "You're unwanted, you're unloved, now go die." Raargh! It just sounds like propaganda out of a dystopian sci fi novel. Like "Fordliness is godliness" or whatever it was. Falsely cheery, repeated ed-nauseum, chanted by the masses.

reply from: faithman

I feel so sad for that poor girl, I don't know how a woman kills her child then goes out partying afterward.
That's exactly what happened. I understand Caylee's mom was partying down and having a good time after Kaylee disappeared.
A normal person would be completely devastated; unable to keep functioning/living. A normal person would not be able to sleep, eat or concentrate on any activity at hand. A normal person would be totally crushed and in great distress and anguish. A normal mom would be totally consumed with the fact that her daughter was missing.
A case of criminal insanity? Insted of celebrating the life of the child, this one seems to have been celebrating the death of her child, maybe even by her own hands. Of course CM would say give the gal a lolly pop, and a get out of jail free card.
Insanity my ass, that poor little girl was murdered and her mother was sane enough to party. I hope she finds out what happens to baby killers in prison.
But CM would give her a free walk because she is a woman. You must be a dude in drag. Only a man would want a killer that is a woman to go to jail. Fraid you done blowed your cover pal.
No, I'm a woman and real women and mothers don't kill their children. If CM or anyone feels sorry for this harpy they are f u cked in the head.
Well isn't murdering the womb child the same as murdering the born one? CM has said no it isn't, and killers of the womb child get a free walk simply because they are women. I would think that in order to be consistant, CM would have to let this killer go free to, or admit she is prejudice against womb children in favor of killer mom. Of course killing three shows a hatred for the womb child. So there is an obvious lack of objectivity and conflict of interest.

reply from: TheRebelWithin

Oh give me a break I do not know of one pro-choice person that defends her now much less when she is found guilty. I deep inside I knew from the start of this case the mom did something to this child. I hoped the child would be found alive but after a month went by it became obvious that would not happen.
RIP Caylee Anthony

reply from: BossMomma

I feel so sad for that poor girl, I don't know how a woman kills her child then goes out partying afterward.
That's exactly what happened. I understand Caylee's mom was partying down and having a good time after Kaylee disappeared.
A normal person would be completely devastated; unable to keep functioning/living. A normal person would not be able to sleep, eat or concentrate on any activity at hand. A normal person would be totally crushed and in great distress and anguish. A normal mom would be totally consumed with the fact that her daughter was missing.
A case of criminal insanity? Insted of celebrating the life of the child, this one seems to have been celebrating the death of her child, maybe even by her own hands. Of course CM would say give the gal a lolly pop, and a get out of jail free card.
Insanity my ass, that poor little girl was murdered and her mother was sane enough to party. I hope she finds out what happens to baby killers in prison.
But CM would give her a free walk because she is a woman. You must be a dude in drag. Only a man would want a killer that is a woman to go to jail. Fraid you done blowed your cover pal.
No, I'm a woman and real women and mothers don't kill their children. If CM or anyone feels sorry for this harpy they are f u cked in the head.
Well isn't murdering the womb child the same as murdering the born one? CM has said no it isn't, and killers of the womb child get a free walk simply because they are women. I would think that in order to be consistant, CM would have to let this killer go free to, or admit she is prejudice against womb children in favor of killer mom. Of course killing three shows a hatred for the womb child. So there is an obvious lack of objectivity and conflict of interest.
There are legal differences, not moral differences between killing an unborn child and a born child. It just depends on what is more important, morality or legality. I'm with morality.

reply from: faithman

I feel so sad for that poor girl, I don't know how a woman kills her child then goes out partying afterward.
That's exactly what happened. I understand Caylee's mom was partying down and having a good time after Kaylee disappeared.
A normal person would be completely devastated; unable to keep functioning/living. A normal person would not be able to sleep, eat or concentrate on any activity at hand. A normal person would be totally crushed and in great distress and anguish. A normal mom would be totally consumed with the fact that her daughter was missing.
A case of criminal insanity? Insted of celebrating the life of the child, this one seems to have been celebrating the death of her child, maybe even by her own hands. Of course CM would say give the gal a lolly pop, and a get out of jail free card.
Insanity my ass, that poor little girl was murdered and her mother was sane enough to party. I hope she finds out what happens to baby killers in prison.
But CM would give her a free walk because she is a woman. You must be a dude in drag. Only a man would want a killer that is a woman to go to jail. Fraid you done blowed your cover pal.
No, I'm a woman and real women and mothers don't kill their children. If CM or anyone feels sorry for this harpy they are f u cked in the head.
Well isn't murdering the womb child the same as murdering the born one? CM has said no it isn't, and killers of the womb child get a free walk simply because they are women. I would think that in order to be consistant, CM would have to let this killer go free to, or admit she is prejudice against womb children in favor of killer mom. Of course killing three shows a hatred for the womb child. So there is an obvious lack of objectivity and conflict of interest.
There are legal differences, not moral differences between killing an unborn child and a born child. It just depends on what is more important, morality or legality. I'm with morality.
Not your ole pal CM. She said she would fight personhood for the womb child if it meant that killer mom would be brought to the same justice as the mom who killed her born child. She is all for the abortionist being punished, but believes the mother should go free because she is a women. Then she accuses us of being women haters because we believe the law should be blind to gender, and treat all murderers alike, whether the victim is born, or preborn. Abortion is gender prejudice. A man kills a womb child, he can go to jail. The mother does it, and fellow killers like CM says she goes free.

reply from: yoda

Ah, she hasn't been found guilty yet, so how do you know that none of your prochoice friends will take her side?

reply from: Teresa18

Yoda, did you check out the quotes I posted?

reply from: TheRebelWithin

Because none of them are defending her now. In fact most hopes she gets the death penatly for what she did.
Ah, she hasn't been found guilty yet, so how do you know that none of your prochoice friends will take her side?

reply from: carolemarie

I never heard anything about it except what was posted here. I don't have an opinion on it.
People who kill children should go to jail.

reply from: carolemarie

This case has nothing to do with abortion. If this woman killed her daughter she broke the law and should go to jail. I can't imagine how you could hurt your own child.....much less kill her and go about your life.
Is this mom a nutcase? Because the whole thing sounds insane....why would she do this

reply from: faithman

Unless they are pre-born, and the killer is their mother. In that case you believe killer mom should escape justice just because she is a woman. Anyone who disagrees with you, you tag a woman hater. You are not pro-life because, as you have stated many times, you do not believe the preborn are of the same value as the born. Particularly born killer moms.

reply from: carolemarie

Abortion is LEGAL.
And abortion is not the same thing as killing a 2 year old...even you should be able to see the difference between those things.

reply from: faithman

What I see is one of the most deadly enemies of the womb child I have ever encountered. One sick self deluded puppy. Anyone with one ounce of pro-life sence can see that by this post. Killing the womb child is exactly the same as killing a 2 year old, 5 year old, or 100 year old. It is the shedding of innocent blood. Blood you have never washed from your own hands.

reply from: kd78

the whole story pisses me off for a couple reasons. first off, what the ***** kind of mother waits over a month to report her toddler missing?! scared?! whatever- call in an anonymous tip! the mother was still acting like her baby wasn't missing- went out with friends and everything. and i do wonder how much coverage this child and case would have had they been latino or black? before you call me racist, i'm not. i just don't think it would've had the same coverage in the news sadly.
all that being said, we have to wait for the dna evidence to be announced to know it i her little body poor baby girl! there's no excuse for that. if it was an accident (supposedly), why not report it?

reply from: BossMomma

Abortion is legal, but what you are saying is that location is everything. Inside the womb the child is somehow less important but outside the womb the very same child is very important. Where is your logic?

reply from: faithman

Abortion is legal, but what you are saying is that location is everything. Inside the womb the child is somehow less important but outside the womb the very same child is very important. Where is your logic?
So simple even a doo doo head can see it. Tried to tell you guys all along....

reply from: TheRebelWithin

The Trenton Duckett case got a lot of air play especially on Nancy Grace until shortly after his mother killed herself. After that happened the case went cold quickly. Trenton Duckett was a bi-racial child that went missing in Orlando a year and half to 2 years ago I believe it was.
http://www.helpfindtrenton.com/

reply from: kd78

wow! one biracial child *rolls eyes*

reply from: yoda

The victim in both cases is precisely the same. So, the act is morally the same thing, no matter what excuses you make for the aborting woman.
You can't condemn and excuse the slaughter of the innocent at the same time. Which one will you choose, condemnation or justification?

reply from: carolemarie

They are not the same thing.
women who have abortions, would never in a million years kill their born children.
It is totally unbelievable that you would think that the same mindset is at work.
Most women don't even think it is a child at 8 week, and they certainly haven't a relationship with that child! They haven't taken care of it for 2 years, bathed feed and laughed with the baby. Killing a toddler is an act so evil I can't find words to describe it. It is not the same as abortion

reply from: faithman

The victim in both cases is precisely the same. So, the act is morally the same thing, no matter what excuses you make for the aborting woman.
You can't condemn and excuse the slaughter of the innocent at the same time. Which one will you choose, condemnation or justification?
The double minded are unstable in all their ways. We have a poster child right here for that one. The shedding of innocent blood is murder. No amount of redefining of words, or perverting of scripture changes that. It is a very sad and pitiful state the self deluded are in... If I could afford the luxury, I would feel sorry for them. But that kind of sentiment is deadly to the womb child where my loyalties are. So I will put my nose to the abortion wind and march on till I draw my last one, or the Lord delivers us the VICTORY!!! PERSONHOOD TO THE WOMB CHILD!!!!! CHARGE!!!!

reply from: carolemarie

Abortion is legal, it is not the same as killing a toddler.
That should be rather obvious to anyone

reply from: faithman

Only to a self justified killer.

reply from: carolemarie

How is it the same? Is murdering a two year old legal in America? NO
Is anyone under any doubt that the two year old is a person? NO Have they with their own eyes seen this child and know it is a person? YES
Is that true about abortion? NO
That makes them different

reply from: GodsLaw4Us2Live

Whether you kill an 80 year old, a two year old, a six week old, or a baby two months before birth; the penalty imposed by law should be the same.
One may argue the 80 year old has lived his life and has a duty to check out. Another will argue the six week old is not as sentient as a fish, therefore there is nothing wrong with ending his life to increase overall happiness.
Let's not start making value judgments about a person's life on issues other than their moral conduct. A child in the womb for 7 months deserves the same protections as a child attending Junior High School.
There is no difference between killing a child in the womb and one who was born two years ago.

reply from: faithman

It would seem your legs would get tired running around your baby killing mulberry bush. But please do go on. With every post you betray the womb child, and expose your true self. A self deluded baby killer. The god of this world has you blinded. Pretty pathetic.

reply from: BossMomma

A true pro-life advocate sees very little difference between a 26 week preemie and a 26 week fetus still in utero. Location is the only difference. I looked into the face of my dead son who died in utero, never once drew breath and knew he was a person.
How can you claim to be pro-life when you so clearly don't see the unborn as a child at all? You're a pro-choicer in some very wierd ass denial. Many horrible things were once legal and are no longer. Slavery, spousal abuse, marital rape, child labor exploitation and a host of other things, their legality did not make them right.

reply from: faithman

A true pro-life advocate sees very little difference between a 26 week preemie and a 26 week fetus still in utero. Location is the only difference. I looked into the face of my dead son who died in utero, never once drew breath and knew he was a person.
How can you claim to be pro-life when you so clearly don't see the unborn as a child at all? You're a pro-choicer in some very wierd ass denial. Many horrible things were once legal and are no longer. Slavery, spousal abuse, marital rape, child labor exploitation and a host of other things, their legality did not make them right.
Me thinks the light has come on!!!! So simple even a doo doo head can see it.

reply from: LiberalChiRo

Carole, I understand what you're trying to say. I don't think you are saying "I don't believe the unborn is a child", just that you understand that some women don't.
If you are a pro-choice woman, you do not view the unborn in the same way as a born child. Even for some of us pro-lifers, we understand that there can be a different kind of relationship between a mother and her 2 year old, and a mother who is still pregnant and has not yet seen her child in the light. It's not different for everyone, but for some people there is a difference.
That's all Carole is saying, I think. She's trying to tell you that not all people look at the unborn as the same thing as a born child, and so when these women abort, their minds are not thinking the same way they would be thinking if they were murdering their 2 year old.
Is that clearer?

reply from: BossMomma

It was crystal clear to begin with, it just isn't a very pro-life viewpoint she was expressing and so the feedback she got was a bit less than positive.

reply from: RiverMoonLady

If I had a little girl like Caylee and she disappeared from my sight for even ONE MINUTE, I would be absolutely hysterical until I found her.
If this woman is guilty, I hope they give her the maximum penalty possible. Make her rot in a nasty prison for the rest of her life.

reply from: faithman

What is clear is that you are trying to make excuses for a baBY KILLER. yOUR SPIN HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT THIS KILLER OF THREE SAID. She said that the born are not the same as the pre born and anyone should see the difference. She was talking for herself, and her own views. No one else, no matter how much you would like to spin it to the contrary.

reply from: carolemarie

Yes, that is what i mean. I don't know why that is so hard to grasp. Abortion is a legal choice in America. While I think it shouldn't be legal, many people have bought into the belief that it isn't really a person and it isn't killing.
Plus it isn't the same thing. To kill a 2 year old, you have look at your vicitm, kill them while they are trying to get away and dispose of the body. That is not what happens in an abortion.

reply from: BossMomma

Yes, that is what i mean. I don't know why that is so hard to grasp. Abortion is a legal choice in America. While I think it shouldn't be legal, many people have bought into the belief that it isn't really a person and it isn't killing.
Plus it isn't the same thing. To kill a 2 year old, you have look at your vicitm, kill them while they are trying to get away and dispose of the body. That is not what happens in an abortion.
So viewing the victim makes the difference? An unborn child has no escape, cannot scream for help. It's like binding and gagging a child before dismembering them alive.

reply from: faithman

Yes, that is what i mean. I don't know why that is so hard to grasp. Abortion is a legal choice in America. While I think it shouldn't be legal, many people have bought into the belief that it isn't really a person and it isn't killing.
Plus it isn't the same thing. To kill a 2 year old, you have look at your vicitm, kill them while they are trying to get away and dispose of the body. That is not what happens in an abortion.
There you go liberal. Can't you read the little "plus" clause of this baby killers surmisings. You can ignore it if you wish, but that would make you willingly ignorant. But I guess that was established some time back.

reply from: carolemarie

No it isn't. To bind and gag you would have to see the child and touch her. You would know she is real, she would be crying! That would take a cold mean evil person to do that
Abortion you don't see the child or personally participate. The woman doesn't see the child, or necessarily even believe it is a child.
Murder is quite different than abortion.

reply from: yoda

The nature of the person doing the killing is totally irrelevant to the point, which you keep desperately trying to avoid. You keep trying to make it about the person doing the killing, and that makes no sense.
The nature of the act of killing an innocent unborn baby is equally evil whether you can see the baby or not, because any person with half a brain knows that abortion kills a baby. All this BS about "not believing it's a baby" is pure unadulterated BS. THEY KNOW IT'S A BABY! And the baby is just as dead, no matter what the "nature" of the person doing the killing. So the ACT of killing a baby is just the same whether the baby is born or not.

reply from: BossMomma

Again how so? From what I can tell you are dwelling on superficial differences, the cold hard truth is that abortion kills a child, an innocent child, one as innocent as the sweet child Caylee who is now with the Lord. Whether the killer touched or saw the victim is irrelevent, causing the death of a child is inexcusable no matter how hard you try to justify and excuse it.

reply from: faithman

Again how so? From what I can tell you are dwelling on superficial differences, the cold hard truth is that abortion kills a child, an innocent child, one as innocent as the sweet child Caylee who is now with the Lord. Whether the killer touched or saw the victim is irrelevent, causing the death of a child is inexcusable no matter how hard you try to justify and excuse it.
SSSSOOOOO if you put a child under a blanquet, and beat them with a base ball bat, that isn't the same as doing so without one because you can or can't see the victim?

reply from: carolemarie

NOT the same thing.
Since abortion is legal, it makes it even more of a murky area. Women who would never kill or hurt another human being will have abortions. They don't see it as the same as murdering a child. Neither do our courts or most people who live in this country
Killing a born child is a malicious deliberate act against a helpless child. It is totally depraved and wicked. That is why it is against the law and why we jail those who do it.
The only similarities is that a person dies.

reply from: BossMomma

And a person doesn't die in abortion? Is not abortion a diliberate act against a helpless child? You seem to be advocating for abortion. Abortion was once illegal, is that all that made it wrong? Legality?

reply from: carolemarie

I am not advocating for abortion. I am simply saying it isn't the same thing as killing a born child.

reply from: BossMomma

Yet you refuse to answer the question presented to you, how is it different? Abortion kills a child does it not? The killer does indeed look upon his victim as he kills it and, he disposes of the body like trash. The woman allows it knowing well what she is doing and whether she acknowledges her unborn child's humanity is irrelevent. Child murder and abortion are the same demon, both sentence an innocent child to die.

reply from: sheri

I disagree, whether she sees the preborn as a child is quintessential. Most women who abort still hold onto the lie that it was "just a clump of tissue" being removed.
that is why we often get such dramatic results from showing pictures of the preborn and aborted babies, it may seem impossible for us to believe, but there are many people out there who never give a thought to preborn life and development untill that life is "threaghtening" their way of life. Then it is frequently too late to educate a mind only too willing to believe a convenient lie.

reply from: faithman

That is why we must get the development pictures in front of as many eyes as we can, then rub their noses in the blood as a last ditch effort to stop the killing.

reply from: yoda

The problem with that is that, IMO, in most cases it is a "willing ignorance".
In other words, deep down they know better, but they will not allow themselves to question what is very obviously a concoction of lies and proabort dogma. They purposely stay in a state of conscious denial, while all the time they know they are living a lie, because they are so desperate to find some way to excuse theirs or someone else's abortion.

reply from: BossMomma

So if I shot a known child molester based on my view that he is not a person worthy of life would that spare me from sentencing in court? What a thing is is not changed by a person's personal view. Murder is murder and to say that women don't know what is in their uterus in this day and age is denial, women know what is there.

reply from: faithman

So if I shot a known child molester based on my view that he is not a person worthy of life would that spare me from sentencing in court? What a thing is is not changed by a person's personal view. Murder is murder and to say that women don't know what is in their uterus in this day and age is denial, women know what is there.
Disspite the enjoyment derived from our verbal jausts, I must say you having jumped the fence does have it's moments as well. But can I have just one more doo doo head for ole times sake?

reply from: BossMomma

So if I shot a known child molester based on my view that he is not a person worthy of life would that spare me from sentencing in court? What a thing is is not changed by a person's personal view. Murder is murder and to say that women don't know what is in their uterus in this day and age is denial, women know what is there.
Disspite the enjoyment derived from our verbal jausts, I must say you having jumped the fence does have it's moments as well. But can I have just one more doo doo head for ole times sake?
Ok, your a doodoo head.

reply from: faithman

So if I shot a known child molester based on my view that he is not a person worthy of life would that spare me from sentencing in court? What a thing is is not changed by a person's personal view. Murder is murder and to say that women don't know what is in their uterus in this day and age is denial, women know what is there.
Disspite the enjoyment derived from our verbal jausts, I must say you having jumped the fence does have it's moments as well. But can I have just one more doo doo head for ole times sake?
Ok, your a doodoo head.
The truth never hurt SSSSSSSOOOOOOO good....

reply from: carolemarie

Yet you refuse to answer the question presented to you, how is it different? Abortion kills a child does it not? The killer does indeed look upon his victim as he kills it and, he disposes of the body like trash. The woman allows it knowing well what she is doing and whether she acknowledges her unborn child's humanity is irrelevent. Child murder and abortion are the same demon, both sentence an innocent child to die.
For example:
Lots of women/girls think of abortion as being made unpregnant. Returning to a desired state. The baby isn't real to them, like a two year old is. They can believe things like all it is is clumps of cells or tissue....because nurses and docotrs are telling them this.
That is why when we do sidewalk counseling we show pictures of fetal development, because girls and women do not know that. They are usually suprised that they can see feet or hands. That is why we give them clothes and baby items when they change their minds, becaue people have clothes, not clumps of tissue..
And it is relevent if she belives the unborn child is human, because if she KNEW that it was, odds are she wouldn't do it.
The majority of women who have had abortions will tell you they were lied to, that the didn't have all the information and they wish now they had had it.
It is NOT the same thing as killing a child you gave birth to, feed and clothed and bathed and read stories to....if you are to blind to see that you will be unable to reach women seeking abortions.

reply from: LiberalChiRo

Yet you refuse to answer the question presented to you, how is it different? Abortion kills a child does it not? The killer does indeed look upon his victim as he kills it and, he disposes of the body like trash. The woman allows it knowing well what she is doing and whether she acknowledges her unborn child's humanity is irrelevent. Child murder and abortion are the same demon, both sentence an innocent child to die.
For example:
Lots of women/girls think of abortion as being made unpregnant. Returning to a desired state. The baby isn't real to them, like a two year old is. They can believe things like all it is is clumps of cells or tissue....because nurses and docotrs are telling them this.
That is why when we do sidewalk counseling we show pictures of fetal development, because girls and women do not know that. They are usually suprised that they can see feet or hands. That is why we give them clothes and baby items when they change their minds, becaue people have clothes, not clumps of tissue..
And it is relevent if she belives the unborn child is human, because if she KNEW that it was, odds are she wouldn't do it.
The majority of women who have had abortions will tell you they were lied to, that the didn't have all the information and they wish now they had had it.
It is NOT the same thing as killing a child you gave birth to, feed and clothed and bathed and read stories to....if you are to blind to see that you will be unable to reach women seeking abortions.
Carole, these people have stated many times they don't care about reaching women. They only care about saving babies. They are flawed in their thinking.

reply from: carolemarie

But how can you save a baby without reaching the mother?
They are a package deal...

reply from: faithman

It is stupid to continue to lavish such mis placed simpathy on killer moms who know exactly what they are doing. Establish personhood for the womb child, and the same laws that govern other acts of murder would aply I guarantee that would "educate" killers real quick. People don't need a law degree, nor years of education to know that other forms of murder are against the law, or that they will land you in jail. Just one series of education on TV would take away all excuses. The stock and trade of almost all criminals is to hide behind their excusses and justifications. No true prolifer makes excusses, nor justifications for killing babies. They spend their time figuring ways to make it stop.

reply from: BossMomma

Yet you refuse to answer the question presented to you, how is it different? Abortion kills a child does it not? The killer does indeed look upon his victim as he kills it and, he disposes of the body like trash. The woman allows it knowing well what she is doing and whether she acknowledges her unborn child's humanity is irrelevent. Child murder and abortion are the same demon, both sentence an innocent child to die.
For example:
Lots of women/girls think of abortion as being made unpregnant. Returning to a desired state. The baby isn't real to them, like a two year old is. They can believe things like all it is is clumps of cells or tissue....because nurses and docotrs are telling them this.
That is why when we do sidewalk counseling we show pictures of fetal development, because girls and women do not know that. They are usually suprised that they can see feet or hands. That is why we give them clothes and baby items when they change their minds, becaue people have clothes, not clumps of tissue..
And it is relevent if she belives the unborn child is human, because if she KNEW that it was, odds are she wouldn't do it.
The majority of women who have had abortions will tell you they were lied to, that the didn't have all the information and they wish now they had had it.
It is NOT the same thing as killing a child you gave birth to, feed and clothed and bathed and read stories to....if you are to blind to see that you will be unable to reach women seeking abortions.
Dear heart I've reached more women than you know, even as a pro-choice advocate I put my best foot forward to keep women and girls out of the abortion clinic. I'm not blind, I see very clearly. Perhaps you should take your blinders off and start viewing abortion for what it is, or is this contradictory mind set your way of coping with your abortions?

reply from: BossMomma

Yet you refuse to answer the question presented to you, how is it different? Abortion kills a child does it not? The killer does indeed look upon his victim as he kills it and, he disposes of the body like trash. The woman allows it knowing well what she is doing and whether she acknowledges her unborn child's humanity is irrelevent. Child murder and abortion are the same demon, both sentence an innocent child to die.
For example:
Lots of women/girls think of abortion as being made unpregnant. Returning to a desired state. The baby isn't real to them, like a two year old is. They can believe things like all it is is clumps of cells or tissue....because nurses and docotrs are telling them this.
That is why when we do sidewalk counseling we show pictures of fetal development, because girls and women do not know that. They are usually suprised that they can see feet or hands. That is why we give them clothes and baby items when they change their minds, becaue people have clothes, not clumps of tissue..
And it is relevent if she belives the unborn child is human, because if she KNEW that it was, odds are she wouldn't do it.
The majority of women who have had abortions will tell you they were lied to, that the didn't have all the information and they wish now they had had it.
It is NOT the same thing as killing a child you gave birth to, feed and clothed and bathed and read stories to....if you are to blind to see that you will be unable to reach women seeking abortions.
Carole, these people have stated many times they don't care about reaching women. They only care about saving babies. They are flawed in their thinking.
I care very much about the woman thank you very much, and the first step in stopping abortion is to eliminate the mind set that a child is somehow less important and valuable based on his/her location. I'm not out to wave a sign depicting a bloody mess in a woman's face, I would rather more people sat in front of abortion clinics calmly handing out pamphlets showing live embryos and fetuses and information on what is going on in development. I would rather crisis pregnancy centers, women's shelters and, low cost daycares crop up en mass. I would rather more people offered their time to help women want their babies. But, that first step, removing the denial of an unborn child's humanity is the most important.

reply from: BossMomma

Right, so why even try to stem the flow of ignorance right? It's so much easier to just sit on your ass and do nothing.

reply from: BossMomma

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Nope. I'm not saying anything like that.
Everyone has seen those fetus photos and the majority of Americans still support abortion rights.
The best thing we can do is to make sure that unplanned pregnancies don't get launched in the first place. (Freakishly enough, it's often anti-choice advocates who shriek and wail the loudest whenever sex education - particularly contraceptive education - is proposed. I've NEVER been able to figure that one out...)
Eh, comes from the religious idea of being fruitful and multiplying, particularly in Catholism. I support comprehensive sex ed. completely, teens will have sex, parents cannot eagle eye them 24/7 every moment of the day, that's just being realistic. I would rather they be taught about BC and it's proper usage.
I don't really put much stock in the fetus photos or the huge signs which frankly I don't think should be permitted in public due to the possibility of small children viewing them. I'd get pissed if someone waved those graphic images in my kid's face. Education, not emotionalism is key here.

reply from: LiberalChiRo

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Nope. I'm not saying anything like that.
Everyone has seen those fetus photos and the majority of Americans still support abortion rights.
Not completely true, actually. Up to 70% actually want to see MORE regulation, and 47% want to see most elective abortions illegalized.
Neither have I; an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure! One tiny pill, one thin piece of latex, and you prevent and entire LIFE being on the line. How easy is that??

reply from: yoda

No, they can PRETEND to believe outrageous lies told to them at the abortion mill, but no sane adult will actually believe such trash. They can even tell themselves that they believe it, but they are simply in denial, deep down they know better, they know they are killing a baby.
Yes, the rate of fetal development is something that many people don't know about, but they still know it's a baby, no matter how developed or undeveloped it is.
Again, that's nothing but denial. Any human who is old enough to reproduce knows that they don't have a frog or a rabbit in them.
True, but they still knew they were killing a baby.
How about killing your parents? Is that the "same thing" as killing your child? Of course not. But is it EQUALLY WRONG, IN A MORAL SENSE?
OF COURSE IT IS.... and if you stay in denial about this, you will never be as effective as you could be in saving babies. Are you trying to say that what you did was not as bad as what some woman did who killed her born kids, or what?

reply from: yoda

Got a link?
No, that's just another of your nasty lies.............

reply from: yoda

That's exactly what I'm wondering.

reply from: kd78

in the off and slim chance that the body is not caylee, it's still someone's missing and dead baby and it's wrong and very tragic. that "mother" just...ugh! pisses me off

reply from: Nulono

Let's see. Do I even have to say it?

reply from: BossMomma

LOL! I hear lemon juice does a pretty good job and their crap would smell all lemony fresh.

reply from: carolemarie

I have reached lot of women too. I see about 60 change their minds every year at the abortion clinic, the ones we talk to and more at the pregnancy help center. And I do counseling with women who are suffering after their abortions. They are suicidal, depressed and in a lot of emotional pain. These same women are good mothers and would never ever hurt their born children.
They do not (or didn't ) see the two things as the same.
If it was the same thing, they would be unfit to raise children.

reply from: Rosalie

Christ, that phrase makes me want to punch things these days... And I used to be pro-abortion-rights. "You're unwanted, you're unloved, now go die." Raargh! It just sounds like propaganda out of a dystopian sci fi novel. Like "Fordliness is godliness" or whatever it was. Falsely cheery, repeated ed-nauseum, chanted by the masses.
Why does the thought of lessening the numbers of unwanted children outrage you so much?
You are absolutely right.

reply from: yoda

Not true at all.
They know that killing their born child would get them thrown into prison, and that's why more of them don't do that. It has nothing to do with "not being the same thing".

reply from: Rosalie

Not true at all.
They know that killing their born child would get them thrown into prison, and that's why more of them don't do that. It has nothing to do with "not being the same thing".
I guess it makes you feel good to picture pro-choicers as blood-thirsty, hateful monsters who cannot love their children, who hate them secretly and don't kill them only because it's illegal.
I guess that must be what keeps your fanatical mind going.

reply from: LiberalChiRo

Not true at all.
They know that killing their born child would get them thrown into prison, and that's why more of them don't do that. It has nothing to do with "not being the same thing".
I guess it makes you feel good to picture pro-choicers as blood-thirsty, hateful monsters who cannot love their children, who hate them secretly and don't kill them only because it's illegal.
I guess that must be what keeps your fanatical mind going.
It's terrible that so many pro-lifers have such a distorted viewpoint.

reply from: faithman

I have reached lot of women too. I see about 60 change their minds every year at the abortion clinic, the ones we talk to and more at the pregnancy help center. And I do counseling with women who are suffering after their abortions. They are suicidal, depressed and in a lot of emotional pain. These same women are good mothers and would never ever hurt their born children.
They do not (or didn't ) see the two things as the same.
If it was the same thing, they would be unfit to raise children.
What the bortheads, and the false pro-lifers do not understand, is that there is more to life than this physical world, and our physical bodies. Our bodies are merely the containers of the precious substance Called life. Life has to have that container to express itself in the natural world. Even if the container is flawed, it still makes it possible for the miracle of life to be expressed. Our common value is not found in the container, but what is contained. The life of a womb child is equal to the life contained in all of us. The only legitimate breaking of this container, is if it has the compunction to smash other containers without cause. When you take way the ability to express life, you loose the great privilege to express your own. Evil aggression must be subdued, or no container can have any security from unjust breakage. To take away the possibility of this wonderful spark of life to be expressed, makes this world a darker place, and the rest of us containers a little more impoverished, and alone. Though the womb child is a small container, it does not lessen the value of the life it contains. If fellow containers do not value the life of the womb child container, then they have placed their personhood container in great jeopardy. Anyone who does not see that womb children are fellow human containers, containing life of equal value to their own, is a self destructive fool, drunk on the power to kill, and must be stopped for the sake of the rest of us life containers. It is the life in us that makes us equal, not our degree of ability to express it.

reply from: Rosalie

I guess it makes you feel good to picture pro-choicers as blood-thirsty, hateful monsters who cannot love their children, who hate them secretly and don't kill them only because it's illegal.
I guess that must be what keeps your fanatical mind going.
It's terrible that so many pro-lifers have such a distorted viewpoint.
It sure is.
Luckily, it's usually the "online" pro-lifers who are disturbed in such an awful way.

reply from: faithman

I guess it makes you feel good to picture pro-choicers as blood-thirsty, hateful monsters who cannot love their children, who hate them secretly and don't kill them only because it's illegal.
I guess that must be what keeps your fanatical mind going.
It's terrible that so many pro-lifers have such a distorted viewpoint.
It sure is.
Luckily, it's usually the "online" pro-lifers who are disturbed in such an awful way.
What the bortheads, and the false pro-lifers do not understand, is that there is more to life than this physical world, and our physical bodies. Our bodies are merely the containers of the precious substance Called life. Life has to have that container to express itself in the natural world. Even if the container is flawed, it still makes it possible for the miracle of life to be expressed. Our common value is not found in the container, but what is contained. The life of a womb child is equal to the life contained in all of us. The only legitimate breaking of this container, is if it has the compunction to smash other containers without cause. When you take way the ability to express life, you loose the great privilege to express your own. Evil aggression must be subdued, or no container can have any security from unjust breakage. To take away the possibility of this wonderful spark of life to be expressed, makes this world a darker place, and the rest of us containers a little more impoverished, and alone. Though the womb child is a small container, it does not lessen the value of the life it contains. If fellow containers do not value the life of the womb child container, then they have placed their personhood container in great jeopardy. Anyone who does not see that womb children are fellow human containers, containing life of equal value to their own, is a self destructive fool, drunk on the power to kill, and must be stopped for the sake of the rest of us life containers. It is the life in us that makes us equal, not our degree of ability to express it.

reply from: ProInformed

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Well, THAT was asinine (accent on the ass...)
Hmmm... so at what exact point in time did that 'mother' magically morph from a woman entitled to kill her baby girl into a woman you would not defend?
BTW why should it be considered so unsual for a woman to celebrate after getting rid of her baby? If she had killed her baby girl a couple of years earlier you would be defending her, right? You choicers do claim that women feel no regret for killing their own babies, that it is an 'empowering' experience, right?
Again, at precisely what point did that woman change from being just a 'pro-choice' woman exercising her 'right to choose' into a murderer? Same woman, same baby girl, just the dirty deed was done a little later... AND she didn't pay an abortionist to do it... hmmm is THAT what makes abortion so supposedly OK by comparison? abortion industry profits?


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