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Any vegetarians on this forum?

by: Beprolifewithme

Anyone share the same love for animals as me?

reply from: scopia19822

Nope! I want my big thick juicy steak. However I hate bird meat (turkey or chicken) so for thanksgiving we will be having a tofurky.

reply from: Beprolifewithme

oh. is there really such a thing as tofurky? I know I sound like some weird health nut, but tofu is actually quite yummy if u cook it correctly w/ the correct amount of seasonings. I had it browned, then sprinkled w/parmesan over butterned noodles. (it was soooooooooooo amazing!!) Being ill right now, makes me crave it sooooooooooooo badly!! LOL. and actually tofu ice cream is really good too

reply from: CharlesD

I love a lot of them...right next to my potatoes and salad.
Life, liberty, and the pursuit of ribeye.

reply from: cracrat

Nope, it's just not natural. Humans are predators, we're designed to eat meat. Besides which, meat is just filtered vegetables. Think about it, the animals eat grass/leaves/etc, using only the good bits to make muscle mass which we eat. Eating meat is just being a really efficient vegetarian.

reply from: LiberalChiRo

Actually humans are OMNIVORES, designed to eat both plant matter and animal matter. We cannot have a healthy diet on meat alone; you would become vitamin deficient and very ill. One of the many conditions you can develop by not eating your fruits is commonly called scurvy.
We MUST eat fruits and vegetables.
It's also not very healthy to go without meat, unless you are very careful and supplement your diet with all of the proteins and vitamins you are missing out on.

reply from: Gerald

Definitely not vegetarian or vegan.
Why are you vegetarian?
Don't you think you kill plants when you eat them?

reply from: yoda

That's a good point, actually. If one is vegan for "ethical" reasons, then one must explain why it's okay to kill one type of living being (plants) but not another (animals) for food.

reply from: 4given

Lacto-ovo for 20 years primarily. I was a vegan for close to two. My reasons for becoming vegetarian were ethically based. I however have lost those convictions- especially in regard to how extreme it went. I still won't purchase any products (CTFA-cosmetic, fragrance, toiletries) that are tested on animals. I gave my children the choice when they were old enough to decide. They were quite healthy on a vegetarian diet, they just wanted to try meat. Most of our meals are vegetarian, but we have a semi-vegetarian diet, and the meat portions belong mostly to my 10 year old, who agreed that if he had to kill every animal he put in his mouth, he may be more willing to go without the meat portion. "Loving animals" does not mean that one does not eat them. Sad thing about the years I spent as an animal rights activist with were men and women that were/are pro-abortion. Why do you suppose that is?

reply from: yoda

It's a strange thing....... hey, I'm all in favor of protecting animals from abuse wherever possible, but I've got to think that unborn human babies are just as much deserving of protection as animals. Very, very odd.

reply from: CharlesD

Just think of the big soft brown eyes that cow had.
All kidding aside, I respect animal rights. I don't eat the cute cuddly ones.

reply from: 4given

Like veal? And what is your take on the animal rights folks that are pro-abortion?

reply from: scopia19822

My paternal grandfather is a farmer and cows are not the most intelligent of animals and I cant see them as cute.

reply from: 4given

Right. I don't think I will ever come to terms with those I knew- one in particular who became active in the animal rights community due to photographs of abused animals being led to the slaughter. This being, after seeing various photographs of mutilated unborn children had a peculiar response. "If I ever see those publicly I will beat the hell out of the person responsible" and this statement when I questioned how he could be for the saving of animals, yet not care about the elective abortions that destroyed 1/3 of our generation. "I have no problem with killing anything that does not resemble me. ZEF's don't look anything like me, so if it looks like a peanut or other creature, you can't call it a human..." Yet he opposes killing animals? Perhaps he views himself with similar characteristics. Odd to me as well.

reply from: nancyu

I'm not entirely vegetarian, but when I made the deal with vexing, I tried to eliminate meat from my diet wherever I could. I have been eating a lot less meat, and the less I eat meat, the less meat I crave, and the thought of some meat turns my stomach now. I don't like the smell of meat cooking anymore. I really miss eating meat without giving a thought to the way animals are slaughtered, but the thought got into my head and now it won't go away.
I suppose it's true that I kill vegetables when I eat them but at least I do the killing. If it's something I couldn't watch, and can't do myself, then maybe it's wrong for me to eat it. I don't have a problem eating fish (I caught a fish and filleted it once) or vegetables (but have you seen how tomatoes are slaughtered! eeewww!) or once in a while poultry. Somehow those things don't seem as gruesome to me. But eating fellow mammals just seems wrong when I think about it.
Plus, meat is really expensive!

reply from: 4given

A final thought here. I have to say that I honestly have no problem with those that slaughter animals for food. I prepare many dishes for my omnivore guests and family. If an animal is killed quickly and not for sport. I saw a video from one of my brother's hunts. His bullet skimmed the top of her head. It took 2 shots to put her down. He was there with a friend that also shot a doe. Her babies stumbled out shortly there after.. I am actually quite irritated by the thought. Don't kill it, if you do not intend to eat it. I suppose that is the biggest issue I have with those that hunt- my brothers, sisters and friends included.

reply from: CharlesD

That's why I eat them. Cows and fish. It's the cute cuddly ones I don't eat.

reply from: AshMarie88

I've been vegetarian for a little over a year now.

reply from: LiberalChiRo

I'm not entirely vegetarian, but when I made the deal with vexing, I tried to eliminate meat from my diet wherever I could. I have been eating a lot less meat, and the less I eat meat, the less meat I crave, and the thought of some meat turns my stomach now. I don't like the smell of meat cooking anymore. I really miss eating meat without giving a thought to the way animals are slaughtered, but the thought got into my head and now it won't go away.
I suppose it's true that I kill vegetables when I eat them but at least I do the killing. If it's something I couldn't watch, and can't do myself, then maybe it's wrong for me to eat it. I don't have a problem eating fish (I caught a fish and filleted it once) or vegetables (but have you seen how tomatoes are slaughtered! eeewww!) or once in a while poultry. Somehow those things don't seem as gruesome to me. But eating fellow mammals just seems wrong when I think about it.
Plus, meat is really expensive!
But that deal was made back when Vexing was sane... and pro-life. How long did that last again? A month, at the most?

reply from: BossMomma

Humans are omnivores, eating a pure meat diet would so wreak havoc on your heart.

reply from: BossMomma

I've tried the vegan life style and while I enjoy it, my son does not and so we do enjoy lean meat in our diet as well as dairy and, eggs. I do not believe that the eating of meat is unethical as predation is part of nature, however I do believe that factory farming, animal testing and, fur farming are unethical as they subject animals to unnessesary suffering. I do not buy meat, milk, cheese or, eggs at the store but aquire these items from private farms to keep my home as cruelty free as possible.

reply from: BossMomma

Humans are omnivores, eating a pure meat diet would so wreak havoc on your heart.
It's actually possible for humans to eat an all-meat diet and remain healthy.
I've heard of that, I just could not imagine eating meat all the time. I enjoy a roast chicken or duck as much as the next person but I need my fruits and veggies.

reply from: BossMomma

That's the misconception; on a carnivorous diet, you eat a lot of eggs, dairy and seafood as well. It's quite good for weight loss as there aren't a lot of carbs in a carnivorous diet.
It's a dietary preference, I prefer a salad to a steak and a hearty vegetable stew to one made with meat. I could live off vegan diets very easily but I have my kids to think of and they don't really dig the vegan lifestyle.

reply from: BossMomma

Yup. Growing kids need nutrition from all sources.
Going through a second puberty, I eat whatever my body is craving so that I get all the nutrition I need.
Being pregnant I do the same and lately I've been craving chocolate, I don't normally like chocolate as it hurts my back teeth, but now I can't get enough Hersheys Dark Chocolate. I limit myself of course but it's torturous sometimes.

reply from: nancyu

I'm not entirely vegetarian, but when I made the deal with vexing, I tried to eliminate meat from my diet wherever I could. I have been eating a lot less meat, and the less I eat meat, the less meat I crave, and the thought of some meat turns my stomach now. I don't like the smell of meat cooking anymore. I really miss eating meat without giving a thought to the way animals are slaughtered, but the thought got into my head and now it won't go away.
I suppose it's true that I kill vegetables when I eat them but at least I do the killing. If it's something I couldn't watch, and can't do myself, then maybe it's wrong for me to eat it. I don't have a problem eating fish (I caught a fish and filleted it once) or vegetables (but have you seen how tomatoes are slaughtered! eeewww!) or once in a while poultry. Somehow those things don't seem as gruesome to me. But eating fellow mammals just seems wrong when I think about it.
Plus, meat is really expensive!
But that deal was made back when Vexing was sane... and pro-life. How long did that last again? A month, at the most?
I know I could justify going back on my deal with vexing, and eat a big, juicy cheeseburger, but why should I take it out on the cows? Plus, like I said, meat is expensive, and boca burgers are just as good.
P.S. I hope you're almost done bashing vexing, she's saner than some non-people I know.

reply from: CharlesD

The Massai eat massive quantities of meat, nearly most of their diet, and they're pretty healthy for the most part.

reply from: LiberalChiRo

I'm not entirely vegetarian, but when I made the deal with vexing, I tried to eliminate meat from my diet wherever I could. I have been eating a lot less meat, and the less I eat meat, the less meat I crave, and the thought of some meat turns my stomach now. I don't like the smell of meat cooking anymore. I really miss eating meat without giving a thought to the way animals are slaughtered, but the thought got into my head and now it won't go away.
I suppose it's true that I kill vegetables when I eat them but at least I do the killing. If it's something I couldn't watch, and can't do myself, then maybe it's wrong for me to eat it. I don't have a problem eating fish (I caught a fish and filleted it once) or vegetables (but have you seen how tomatoes are slaughtered! eeewww!) or once in a while poultry. Somehow those things don't seem as gruesome to me. But eating fellow mammals just seems wrong when I think about it.
Plus, meat is really expensive!
But that deal was made back when Vexing was sane... and pro-life. How long did that last again? A month, at the most?
I know I could justify going back on my deal with vexing, and eat a big, juicy cheeseburger, but why should I take it out on the cows? Plus, like I said, meat is expensive, and boca burgers are just as good.
P.S. I hope you're almost done bashing vexing, she's saner than some non-people I know.
Considering this is the first comment I've made about her in a while (and is much nicer than what most people are saying), I think you need to aim your blame at some of the other people on this forum before me.

reply from: nancyu

I'm not entirely vegetarian, but when I made the deal with vexing, I tried to eliminate meat from my diet wherever I could. I have been eating a lot less meat, and the less I eat meat, the less meat I crave, and the thought of some meat turns my stomach now. I don't like the smell of meat cooking anymore. I really miss eating meat without giving a thought to the way animals are slaughtered, but the thought got into my head and now it won't go away.
I suppose it's true that I kill vegetables when I eat them but at least I do the killing. If it's something I couldn't watch, and can't do myself, then maybe it's wrong for me to eat it. I don't have a problem eating fish (I caught a fish and filleted it once) or vegetables (but have you seen how tomatoes are slaughtered! eeewww!) or once in a while poultry. Somehow those things don't seem as gruesome to me. But eating fellow mammals just seems wrong when I think about it.
Plus, meat is really expensive!
But that deal was made back when Vexing was sane... and pro-life. How long did that last again? A month, at the most?
I know I could justify going back on my deal with vexing, and eat a big, juicy cheeseburger, but why should I take it out on the cows? Plus, like I said, meat is expensive, and boca burgers are just as good.
P.S. I hope you're almost done bashing vexing, she's saner than some non-people I know.
Considering this is the first comment I've made about her in a while (and is much nicer than what most people are saying), I think you need to aim your blame at some of the other people on this forum before me.
I'm sure my aim was dead on. All the attention goes to her head anyway. It'll only make her more impossible to live with:

reply from: churchmouse

Is that like spam?
I have never had tofu, but it sounds horrible.
I am not much of a meat eater, but I love seafood and fish.
What is a humane way of killing fish?
I love animals and do everything i can to help them. I remember I was driving down a main highway and there was a huge snapping turtle crossing the road. I mean huge. My kids screamed that the trucks would kill it so we stopped and held up traffic until we coaxed it across the road with a hockey stick. The truckers were ticked let me tell you. I bet traffic was backed up a mile.

reply from: LiberalChiRo

I'm sure my aim was dead on. All the attention goes to her head anyway. It'll only make her more impossible to live with:
I don't see you bashing the people who make all of these anti-vex threads.

reply from: CharlesD

I love salad. It gives you something to do while you're waiting for your steak.

reply from: Beprolifewithme

Sorry for such a late reply. I've had the flu for about 4 days now, and I got a horrible headache yesterday. Being on my computer makes it worse. Ok, before I reply to your question, I just want to point out to everyone that I'm Vegetarian, NOT vegan. I'm not saying that's what you implied, but it seems some think that I"m vegan.
Why are you vegetarian?
For several reasons. I don't really know how to explain long story of why but I"ll try to explain it the best I can .
1. I believe that killing animals for (eating) pleasure is mean. I know that you get protein and vitamins from meat, but you can also get that in supplement form.
2. Being vegetarian has many health benefits
3. I realized that I loved animals too much to support their killing by buying meat. (Although my family still eats meat, they have cut down on it a lot)
4. It also gives you like a whole new world of food. Growing up I ALWAYS thought that Tofu was disgusting, but like I put in one of my earlier posts, it is REALLY good if you cook it the correct way.
5. I lost interest in meat after I figured out it was made from dead animals, but the only reason I continued to eat it was b/c it was pretty good. Well now I have found that Boca burgers are REALLY good. And if you have ever tried the morning star corn dogs, those are amazing.
Don't you think you kill plants when you eat them?
Ok, well I don't exactly know how to reply to this for it to make sense, but I will try my best. Plants aren't like animals. I mean they do breathe and they are alive, but they don't really..idk how to explain it. Also they aren't treated at severely mean when they are killed. Animals are tortured and beaten sometimes before they are killed. My brother read this book called "the Jungle" for school two years ago, and if you've read that you know what I mean.
I'll try to come back soon and answer as many of the other q's as possible.

reply from: Beprolifewithme

That's a good point, actually. If one is vegan for "ethical" reasons, then one must explain why it's okay to kill one type of living being (plants) but not another (animals) for food.
I'm not Vegan, I'm vegetarian. I'm also not vegetarian for "ethical reasons" alone.

reply from: Beprolifewithme

I'm not entirely vegetarian, but when I made the deal with vexing, I tried to eliminate meat from my diet wherever I could. I have been eating a lot less meat, and the less I eat meat, the less meat I crave, and the thought of some meat turns my stomach now. I don't like the smell of meat cooking anymore. I really miss eating meat without giving a thought to the way animals are slaughtered, but the thought got into my head and now it won't go away.
I suppose it's true that I kill vegetables when I eat them but at least I do the killing. If it's something I couldn't watch, and can't do myself, then maybe it's wrong for me to eat it. I don't have a problem eating fish (I caught a fish and filleted it once) or vegetables (but have you seen how tomatoes are slaughtered! eeewww!) or once in a while poultry. Somehow those things don't seem as gruesome to me. But eating fellow mammals just seems wrong when I think about it.
Plus, meat is really expensive!
Yeah, that's kind of how I feel on the "why do you think it's ok to kill plants?" thing. However I don't see how people don't count fish as meat. It is a dead animal. Meat is! It is VERY expensive. One time my mom had to buy alot of hamburger for this party we were hosting, and she bought so much the guy wrapping it was like giving us a pound free for every certain numbers of pounds we bought.
Plus, when you go into those grocery stores and you see those poor lobsters with their little pinchers rubber-banded shut, then someone picks out one to be boiled, don't you feel bad? I was w/ my dad in our local grocery store several years ago when some lady came up to choose a lobster for her dinner party. After she selected hers, the guy went back to boil it, and the her little boy (maybe like 3 or 4 yrs old) was like "Are we taking him home mom?" Can we get him a bowl mom". And she kept ignoring him. Then after a ton more questions, she finally answered him and she's like
" They're going to take the alive one back there, then bring out one that they found dead".
The poor little kid really wanted to take it home with him

reply from: nancyu

I'm not entirely vegetarian, but when I made the deal with vexing, I tried to eliminate meat from my diet wherever I could. I have been eating a lot less meat, and the less I eat meat, the less meat I crave, and the thought of some meat turns my stomach now. I don't like the smell of meat cooking anymore. I really miss eating meat without giving a thought to the way animals are slaughtered, but the thought got into my head and now it won't go away.
I suppose it's true that I kill vegetables when I eat them but at least I do the killing. If it's something I couldn't watch, and can't do myself, then maybe it's wrong for me to eat it. I don't have a problem eating fish (I caught a fish and filleted it once) or vegetables (but have you seen how tomatoes are slaughtered! eeewww!) or once in a while poultry. Somehow those things don't seem as gruesome to me. But eating fellow mammals just seems wrong when I think about it.
Plus, meat is really expensive!
Yeah, that's kind of how I feel on the "why do you think it's ok to kill plants?" thing. However I don't see how people don't count fish as meat. It is a dead animal. Meat is! It is VERY expensive. One time my mom had to buy alot of hamburger for this party we were hosting, and she bought so much the guy wrapping it was like giving us a pound free for every certain numbers of pounds we bought.
Plus, when you go into those grocery stores and you see those poor lobsters with their little pinchers rubber-banded shut, then someone picks out one to be boiled, don't you feel bad? I was w/ my dad in our local grocery store several years ago when some lady came up to choose a lobster for her dinner party. After she selected hers, the guy went back to boil it, and the her little boy (maybe like 3 or 4 yrs old) was like "Are we taking him home mom?" Can we get him a bowl mom". And she kept ignoring him. Then after a ton more questions, she finally answered him and she's like
" They're going to take the alive one back there, then bring out one that they found dead".
The poor little kid really wanted to take it home with him
How sad! I ordered lobster in a restaurant when my daughter was about 4 years old. I was concerned that she would be upset to know I was going to eat this creature, but she just looked at it and asked, "aren't you gonna eat the eyes?"
Yeah, I think we're both a little more sensitive than we were back then.

reply from: nancyu

I'm sure my aim was dead on. All the attention goes to her head anyway. It'll only make her more impossible to live with:
I don't see you bashing the people who make all of these anti-vex threads.
Boy, are you seriously this sensitive? Okay, before you pick up your toys and run home, I meant "you" as in "you all" I wasn't "bashing" anyone for bashing vexing, I just mean it's getting old. I don't really care if you want to continue, she doesn't need me to stick up for her, she can dish it out, she can take it. Carry on if it makes you (all, not just liberal) happy.

reply from: LiberalChiRo

It is old, which is why I wish everyone would have her on ignore!!! I only ever mention her after other people do; I can't even avoid her posts because people keep quoting her. It's insane. She was BANNED, people.

reply from: scopia19822

http://www.tofurky.com/

Above is the link to Turtle Foods which sells Tofurkys. I am not a vegeterian, but I hate bird meat. I love tofu as well, with the price of meat I buy it and generally put into a vegetable stir fry.

reply from: churchmouse

So I take it all you vegetarians are against hunting as well.
I always hear the excuse, gee if we don't kill them they will starve.
It's still killing isn't it?

reply from: CharlesD

I'm not in favor of trophy hunting. If you shoot it, you have to eat it.

reply from: RedTaintedRose

What's insane is...
1. The way people who have her on ignore CONSTANTLY YAMMER ABOUT THAT FACT. Yes, we know, you ran screaming with your tail between your legs; you don't have to remind us every day of this fact. We really don't care. State it and let it drop ferchrissakes.
2. Vexing being banned while people worse than she could ever hope to be are not even so much as warned about their behavior. And yes, peanut gallery, they're pro-lifers, and I daren't speak their names lest they be summoned from their sulphurous pits once more to wreak havoc.
I am in total agreement with you there.

reply from: Beprolifewithme

I HATE hunting!!!! Especially when people do it "for fun" or as a "sport". I have NEVER (even before I was vegetarian) been able to see how killing an innocent animal is fun. I understand if your family is starving and that is the only thing available, but when these people do it for "fun" it just makes me so mad!!

reply from: Beprolifewithme

I'm not quite sure what trophy hunting is, but I agree. If you kill it, you MUST eat it.

reply from: CharlesD

Having it stuffed as a trophy instead of processing the meat.

reply from: kayluvzchoice

I was a vegetarian for three months when I was in eight grade because I read a lot of articles on PETA's website. Then I found out that they are a bunch of psychotic, lying freaks.
And to that guy who asked "Don't you think you kill plants when you eat them?", plants are not sentient. Most animals are. Plants can't feel their deaths. And tomatoes are not alive. Pulling a fruit or vegetable off of a plant or tree does not kill it either.

reply from: GodsLaw4Us2Live

All of our food was alive at one time. Yes, you want to be very humane with living animals.

reply from: kayluvzchoice

But all of our food did not always fell or think.

reply from: CharlesD

You ever notice that it's usually animals that are cute that people have a harder time killing or eating? Nobody ever says a thing about fish, but talk about eating a rabbit and people have a fit. PETA can fuss all they want about slaughterhouses and as long as it's pigs and chickens and whatnot, most people don't fuss much, but show something about the dog markets in China and people are practically weeping. Is it because we have a bond with certain animals that have historically had a companionship role with humans? Who eats horses? I also think it's that we relate better with other mammals, especially the ones that we see as being capable of compassion, like dogs and cats. Cows are viewed (maybe rightly so) as dumber mammals so we don't have any second thoughts about eating them. At least I don't have any second thoughts when there is a nice juicy ribeye on my plate. It doesn't bother me in the least. I don't like killing them just for sport if you're not going to eat it. What is the point of the people who hunt bears and the like? Do people eat bears? I don't think so. At least when the Indians killed things, they used every part of the animal. Waste not want not. If you shoot something just so you can have it stuffed and standing in the corner, then there's something wrong with that. That's killing just for the sake of killing, and I don't think that's right.

reply from: Gerald

Tomatoes are greminated offspring of their parent families that will grow into future tomato plants and have offspring tomatoes.... on and on.
So do you think the same of a fetus, before it can feel and has a sentient capability?

reply from: speck

You say " it is old" yet you and a few others are continuously making it new.
You seem so obsessed with someone you want nothing to do with. Sounds similar to a little arrogant rodent running around.
Vexing's name was mentioned in passing, while making a post about being a vegetarian. The ONLY thing you responded to, of that post was about Vexing, and of course being something negative, to get your licks in towards her, and then you claim she is the negative one.
You are no better than those you put down. In fact, Vexing has been pushed into a corner by many, leading to being on the defensive. You, you're just being you I guess.
Seek help.

reply from: 4given

Well.. my brother and father have both eaten bear. Neither liked it. My father also has enjoyed a taco or two made with what he later realized was dog meat.

reply from: LiberalChiRo

Tomatoes are certainly alive! Pulling off my finger wouldn't kill me, but that doesn't mean my finger is dead. Tomatoes grow from tiny ovaries at the base of the flowers into huge ripe fruits; how can they not be alive? And the seeds inside of them are not dead either; they can grow into new tomato plants. Once you pick it, yes it starts dying but if you pick it when it's yellow, it can mature off the vine and ripen; clearly it is still alive. Fruit does not instantly die when you pick it; and it's definitely NOT dead when it's on the vine!
As for plants not feeling pain, there has been a lot of research on this subject. In some trees, when one is cut down the stump excretes plant hormones into the soil and the air, which activate warning responses in nearby plants.

reply from: scopia19822

"As for plants not feeling pain, there has been a lot of research on this subject. In some trees, when one is cut down the stump excretes plant hormones into the soil and the air, which activate warning responses in nearby plants. "
Damn does this mean we have to starve to death?

reply from: LiberalChiRo

Only if you believe eating things is wrong because it causes pain to that thing.

reply from: CharlesD

Humans are part of nature, not its enemy.

reply from: kayluvzchoice

But most people don't eat wood or tees that produce it. We eat the fruit.

reply from: LiberalChiRo

Cutting off a fruit could elicit a similar response, but it has not been tested. And you've clearly never eaten rosemary or been aware of what it actually looks like. Fresh, they may as well be pine needles

reply from: Nulono

Fruit is generally actually "intended" to be eaten. It is an evolutionary mechanism to aid seed distribution, thus giving offspring soil without compotition from the parent.

reply from: LiberalChiRo

True, which is why I said "could", not would. And I'm supposed to get my period, but that still hurts anyway.

reply from: Nulono

Only if you believe eating things is wrong because it causes pain to that thing.
Not sure if that counts as pain. Meerkats warn the colony, but they aren't in pain.

reply from: LiberalChiRo

We don't know what it counts as, but it could be pain.

reply from: carolemarie

I don't eat meat I personally know. Like I couldn't kill an animal then eat it.
I like my meat prekilled and packaged in the supermarket. If I had to kill it, I would be a vegeterian!

reply from: 4given

Hey you and most of the people I know. I have yet to kill an animal intentionally. A few squirrels met an unhappy end as the result of my tire. Fortunately I don't have to do in any other beasts to feed my family and their desire for meat.

reply from: LiberalChiRo

I've personally killed and cleaned and eaten a fish; doing so doesn't bother me at all. I think it's much more respectful to the animal; sort of an old native-american viewpoint I suppose.

reply from: cracrat

Personally I don't think a person should eat anything that they wouldn't be willing to kill and butcher themselves. But that's just me.

reply from: nancyu

Nah, I'd rather put you on ignore.
There, I did. Life is Good.

reply from: nancyu

Personally I don't think a person should eat anything that they wouldn't be willing to kill and butcher themselves. But that's just me.

reply from: yoda

Personally I don't think a person should eat anything that they wouldn't be willing to kill and butcher themselves. But that's just me.
Wow, three people agreeing on something. (I'm the third.) This may be a record.
If you can't kill an animal to eat it, then you should not eat it, IMO. Having someone else do your killing for you is like hiring an abortionist, IMO.

reply from: CharlesD

I don't kill cows, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying a good steak, but to each his own. I simply believe that if you're going to kill it, you have to eat it. None of this shooting something just to stuff it and stand it up in your house as a trophy.
I think maybe I'll become a vegetable rights activist. Nobody is standing up for the poor innocent vegetables that get slaughtered in the name of salad.

reply from: CharlesD

There's something on tv right now about these morons who kill rhinos and elephants in Africa just for their horns and they leave the rest of the animal there to rot. It's sick. They have people flying around in planes trying to catch the poachers.

reply from: cracrat

I don't kill cows either, but I would be prepared to do so with an appropriate professional keeping an eye on me to make sure the animal didn't suffer unduly.

reply from: kd78

i went veggie before i went pro-life so i think it's going on 4 years as a veggie and next summer it'll be 3 years as pro-life. i had tofurky for the first time about 2 weeks ago. it's pretty good stuff

reply from: teddybearhamster

i do love animals too. i've actually been accused of hoarding hamsters. i'm not a vegetarian though but my boyfriends sister is so lately i've been trying out some vegetarian recipes and a lot of them are darn good! i don't think i could give up steak and chicken wings though. humans are designed to eat meat. i'm taking classes to become a dental assistant and that's why we have cuspids and bicuspids( on many people they are the teeth that resemble fangs)

reply from: teddybearhamster

omnivores are designed to eat plant and animal.

reply from: teddybearhamster

no reason to be sarcastic and nasty

reply from: cracrat

Of course we are designed. There maybe some dispute over the process of that design, be it supernatural being or natural process, but undoubtably we were designed by something.

reply from: LiberalChiRo

Of course we are designed. There maybe some dispute over the process of that design, be it supernatural being or natural process, but undoubtably we were designed by something.
Precisely!


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