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by: ChristianLott2

I know a lot of people quote the bible to you and others encourage you.
Vex, though - don't do it. That's like castrating yourself. I know women can't be trusted and they have the upper hand in this society and men are too stupid to realize this most of the time.
But don't you want to be a dad? Why would you take that wonderful gift away from yourself? Men are great!
No matter what your girlfriends say, you'll never really be one of them. They'll know it. So you won't fit in anywhere, or at least a lot fewer places.
Didn't they make Alan Turing take estrogen against his will?
That's not a privilege, that's like women jews aborting their babies because Hitler made it legal for them and only them before the holocaust.

reply from: cracrat

Yes, to curb his libido after he was found guilty of homosexuality. You can accuse the British authorities of many things, but lack of imagination is not one of them.

reply from: KaylieBee

WTF?
Also, seriously, just stop talking. What Vexing does never has and never will have any effect on your life. At risk of sounding like a certain youtube idiot, JUST LEAVE HER ALONE.
For now and forever.

reply from: Cecilia

This is really telling of the company you keep.

reply from: ChristianLott2

from the person who's tag line is:
"May the fetus you save be gay. "
I think this deserves reposting:
The Jewel in the Lotus, Introduction by Albert Ellis PhD, p. xi
Allen Edwardes 1960
And what could be more discouraging to heterosexual relationships than female controlled infanticide?
Don't give up vex! You'll find a wonderful pro life woman who will make you feel wonderful for being you - for being the man you were made to be not some estrogen altered 'what'.

reply from: Cecilia

from the person who's tag line is:
"May the fetus you save be gay. "
I think this deserves reposting:
The Jewel in the Lotus, Introduction by Albert Ellis PhD, p. xi
Allen Edwardes 1960
And what could be more discouraging to heterosexual relationships than female controlled infanticide?
Don't give up vex! You'll find a wonderful pro life woman who will make you feel wonderful for being you - for being the man you were made to be not some estrogen altered 'what'.
And this is telling of your score on the empathy scale.

reply from: kayluvzchoice

This post has got to be one of the most degrading of human intelligence I have ever seen.
WTF?

reply from: Cecilia

It says more about the poster than human intelligence.

reply from: yoda

So is that your only purpose in being here, to say "WTF"?
Okay, I wondered why you were here....

reply from: ChristianLott2

I have a wonderful boyfriend who makes me feel wonderful for being me, thanks.
Considering I'm XXY, I was never a 'man' to begin with - and had testosterone receptor problems which prevented a proper male puberty.
If you were born that way great - but you're trying to change yourself now. Is your bf pushing for this?

reply from: jujujellybean

You know women can't be trusted? Huh? Wow....

reply from: ChristianLott2

Who?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing

reply from: ChristianLott2

Why else would a guy castrate himself?
What else causes men to like other men except the hate of women?

reply from: ChristianLott2

I have no idea. Go and ask a guy.
That's what you're doing.
The simple fact that they find men attractive.
Gay men are generally absolutely lovely to women (moreso than straight men, who often see them as objects of desire) - there is no hate involved.
Whatever. Gay guys are wannabe women. They'll never be women, they were born male so stop trying.
Don't be rude.

reply from: KaylieBee

Why else would a guy castrate himself?
What else causes men to like other men except the hate of women?
Looool. So my very large group of gay friends hate women, despite the fact most their friends are female? Does being straight mean you hate men?

reply from: ChristianLott2

If you like women so much why don't you marry one?
ha. THAT is a no brainer.
I'm trying to reason with you. I have not attacked you.

reply from: ChristianLott2

I can't figure it out either.

reply from: ChristianLott2

Let's follow that flawed logic through...
I have female friends, ergo, I like women.
You have male friends, ergo, you like men.
You are saying I should form a stable committed, intimate relationship with a woman because I 'like' them (marriage)
Ergo, you should form a stable committed, intimate relationship with a man because you 'like' them.
Therefore, you must be gay.
How about this - you are unable to LOVE a woman.
Therefore, you must hate or dislike them in a permanent way that prevents you from loving her
This whole thread is a public, trollish attack.
If you have concerns about my gender, why no send me a private message instead of creating a circus on the forums?
I haven't attacked you any more than you've attacked us with the posts about your personal life.
I'm not pm'ing a gay guy. Sorry.
I think the post about you not being able to ejaculate anymore is what prompted me to feel so frekin sorry for you. That and reading about arab castration cults. Yuk.
A male orgasm isn't something you're going to miss, huh? That is crazy, dude.

reply from: ChristianLott2

Like repel, opposites attract .

reply from: Draiocht

The premise of this thread is absolutely abhorrent. Vexing never chose how SHE was born and she never would have been able to fulfill the supposed "blessed accomplishment" of seed-spewing even if she's chosen to remain hidden in a miserable dark little hole (where hateful "Christians" would prefer). She was sterile from the beginning, so for those of you that use the ridiculous "quiverfull" argument, it's just moot. I suppose to people like you a devoted acolyte of your own following would be rendered useless and hell-bound by your standards of breeding.
If your concept of God is that humans are here only to breed mindlessly and that is the very basis of their existence, you really have no reason to complain against or criticize the behavior of animals.
Are you really so mindless?
Never mind...the fact that you've chosen to attack someone for how they were born answers that question for me.

reply from: ChristianLott2

Just trying to understand why you'd do that to yourself.
I think it's sad. Oh well.

reply from: Draiocht

Well, aren't you just full of pee and vinegar. I can't wait until you look yourself in the mirror and realize that you don't belong there. It WILL happen. You *****ed yourself with Karma. Suck it up.

reply from: ChristianLott2

would you just chill out?
know it all insult 1.
know it all insult 2, based on the same fact as know it all insult 1.
are you going anywhere with this or just trying to catch a clothesline from your high horse?

holy crap, nobody said anything about God until you showed up. you really don't have an ear for the subtle.
looking for insult 3...
oh bs.
I didn't tell vex he wasn't a man because he was sterile. I wanted to know why s/he'd voluntarily dose estrogen.
You are an idiot.

reply from: ChristianLott2

Exactly what did I say that sickened you mister potty mouth?

reply from: ChristianLott2

You are trash. Go away.

reply from: Draiocht

Christians are vile, evil people that hate everyone.

reply from: cracrat

I take great exception to that. I'm no fan of organised religion in general and I'm abundantly aware that many horrifying crimes have been commited in the name of one God or another. But I have some very good friends who are Christian and I'm related to a bunch more. None of them warrent being called evil and they certainly don't hate everyone. Your foul mouthed spouting is far more vile and full of more hate than anything I've heard from any Christians I've chosen to associate with.

reply from: ChristianLott2

Years ago I met a young boy and girl. The girl had a boy name but it's sometimes cute when they do. However I learned later the girl was different. I don't know what all was different, just that she wasn't your average girl.
So I guess I can see where you're coming from. Granted I didn't know all this when I started this thread.
I am still concerned but I guess it's a little less horrifying now.
As for my attempted explanations on why you'd do such a thing - I can't understand obviously. I tried, I can't relate, so I give up.
Hope I didn't hurt your feelings. It was just very upsetting to read about.

reply from: Draiocht

"upsetting to READ about".
How about you imagine living in Vexing's shoes for one bloody minute. If it upsets you so much to read about what another person is doing with their own body, imagine what they must be going through. Hateful, inconsiderate garbage like what you spouted is only going to drag your religion through the mud further. I have never seen a group of more hateful, rude and bigoted people. I have never seen any other religious group practice more discrimination than Christians. I stand by my statement: Christians are evil excuses for human beings.

reply from: ChristianLott2

how many times from how many different people do you need to be told to shut up?

reply from: Draiocht

I honestly don't care how many times Christian bigots tell me to shut up. If everyone just shut up when prejudiced jackasses told them to, I'd be barefoot and pregnant now, the Jews would be extinct and blacks would still be in chains. The oppressors can tell us to "shut up" as much as they like but we're not going to do it and let them have their way with us.

reply from: faithman

The jews almost became exstinct at the hands of a God hating secular humanist that learned eugenics from the founder of planned parenthood. The blacks were held in chains under the justification written out by Charles Darwin, that they were less evolved, and considered inferior beings to white europeans. Both woman's sufferage, abolition, and civil rights were started by Christians. Susan B. Anthony was Christian first, then abolistionist, then woman's sufferage, and PRO-LIFE!!! Martin Luther King Jr. was the Reverand MLK, a baptist minister. Opression of blacks, and killing of jews, as well as oppression of women belongs in your camp not ours, no matter how much you try to rewrite history. Get over it scanc, you are the monsters.

reply from: Draiocht

Hitler was Catholic, idiot.
Planned Parenthood was started so that women could have a means of controlling when and if they had children, and blacks were in the demographic of people that suffered the most from unwanted/unplanned pregnancies and domestic abuse, moron.
Christianity had nothing at all to do with women seeking basic human rights. If you ever viewed women as something more than objects for your personal use, you'd know that.
Rapist.

reply from: faithman

Hitler was born into a catholic family, but he was a pagan as an adult, and threw many christians into the camps as well. He did away with all Christian holidays, and reverted Germany back to pagan observances. SS troops were considered a pagan priest class of the Riech and had to go thru blood rituals to be inducted into service. You are simply a stupid pro-death scanc ignorant of history. All the early sufferage players were christian, and based their movement on the bible. If you were so willingly ignorant, and did a simple net study on Susan B Anthony., you would realize just how wrong your scum bag low life behind is. You are not only a murderer at heart, but a lier.

reply from: yoda

I have a suggestion... let's put potty mouth on iggy until s/he learns some manners.

reply from: faithman

No potty mouth here, just acurate discription.

reply from: Draiocht

I've already put Faithman on ignore. OH, but when you say "Potty mouth" you just mean people that don't treat women like whores. Gotcha, hypocrite.

reply from: Cecilia

The bible was manipulated by some Christians to support slavery laws as well as miscegenation laws. Case in point, the American "Bible Belt" supported slavery and the laws against interracial marriage. The 'bible belt' even attempted to seseed (spelling?) for the right to own slaves.
Women's suffrage in America was founded by women who happened to be Christian, not because they were Christian. They determined that denying women the right to vote, which had been previously upheld by Christians, was unConsitutional.
The killing of Jews I think refers to Hitler's regime. He was a Protestant Christian , believed in Jesus, and advocated for Christianity.
You are wrong and history supports me.

reply from: faithman

The bible was manipulated by some Christians to support slavery laws as well as miscegenation laws. Case in point, the American "Bible Belt" supported slavery and the laws against interracial marriage. The 'bible belt' even attempted to seseed (spelling?) for the right to own slaves.
Women's suffrage in America was founded by women who happened to be Christian, not because they were Christian. They determined that denying women the right to vote, which had been previously upheld by Christians, was unConsitutional.
The killing of Jews I think refers to Hitler's regime. He was a Protestant Christian , believed in Jesus, and advocated for Christianity.
You are wrong and history supports me.
No, I am not wrong. Christians got into trouble on slavery when they tried to include evolution into faith. It was a departure from christian faith that justified slavery, not adherance. Check out your history scanc, womens sufferage most assuredly was based on christian principal. Hitler was not a christian, and only gave lip service to being so to get into power. Once he was in power, he did everything he could to destroy the christian faith. His killing of the jewes was based on evolution, eugenics, and paganism, not chritianity. Many christians died in the camps right next to the jews. You are the one that is wrong, and history comes no where close to supporting your scum bag low life baby killing behind.

reply from: yoda

No potty mouth here, just acurate discription.
Nah, I'm kinda used to you, it was that other potty mouth I was referring to.....

reply from: Cecilia

Wrongness in every sentence, especially the first one. Such a pleasant sort you are.

reply from: Draiocht

I agree. There are some really offensive members within every group I've ever come across, and some really swell people as well.
Considering that none of the 'Christians' on here deigned to jump in and point out that this thread is utterly abominable and made no attempt to regulate the behaviour of their peer (ChristianLott2), I think they deserve to be tarred with the same brush.
The 'proaborts' regularly get lumped together as being some kind of hive-mind that hate all babies, so why shouldn't the 'Christians' be given a taste of their own medicine?
Thank you, m'lady. I get so frustrated with the attitude that if someone gets tired of being bullied by Christians or seeing others bullied, it's somehow unjust to speak out against that group for doing it.

reply from: yoda

Then why do you repost his posts?

reply from: RedTaintedRose

Don't give up vex! You'll find a wonderful pro life woman who will make you feel wonderful for being you - for being the man you were made to be not some estrogen altered 'what'.
What planet were you born on? Or hatched in? Native Americans and other hunter / gatherer societies have long recognized a transexual as blessed by the spirits having the strengths of both women and men in them. They are unique and special and gift to their societies.
I might be wrong but I'm sure there is something about not judging in your little leatherbound comic book full of sand dune superhero's who prey on the minds of the weak (that's you!)
If someone doesn't fit your personal idea of what is best for them then you think they need to conform by marriage to a woman of your choice who worships your gods and holds your political beliefs.. did your god say something about free will?
I don't see you willing to acknowledge the free will of others.
All I see on this board with its ravenous lot of social deviants is a conformity at all costs attitude. As a subculture, frankly, you guys suck.

reply from: RedTaintedRose

Ahh faithfreak the mommy killer. You do remember wanting to kill me because I am a mother right?
Christians held slaves. End of story. It has nothing to do with evolution (which wasn't a real issue then..just and fyi murderer).
Abraham held slaves are you saying he strayed from the christian path? Byzantines held slaves..are you saying Constitine was not a christian?
Womens sufferage was based on a belief that women have the right to vote too and was adamantly opposed by religiouses of the time and ungodly. Check your history hit man.
If you are the one teaching the history it is no wonder you don't have a clue Faithfreak. You couldn't find your ass with both hands much less read any history that you hadn't personally edited for your consumption. The rest of us will stick with our proven history not your histronics.. I think you are mixing the definitions of those two words..moron.
Its ok though I learned long ago not to credit a single thing you say especially as you want to murder me and leave my children ophans. Cognition isn't your forte at all is it?

reply from: ChristianLott2

this conversation is old, all your (surprise) pro abort friends just can't handle a discussion without launching into insult.
If you and your friends got offended I am sorry. I was not only offended but *concerned*. I tried to be as polite as possible considering how you just posted to everyone you lost the ability to ejaculate a few days ago. How am I supposed to know talking about this is taboo when you bring it up so frekin often?

reply from: cracrat

I agree. There are some really offensive members within every group I've ever come across, and some really swell people as well.
Considering that none of the 'Christians' on here deigned to jump in and point out that this thread is utterly abominable and made no attempt to regulate the behaviour of their peer (ChristianLott2), I think they deserve to be tarred with the same brush.
The 'proaborts' regularly get lumped together as being some kind of hive-mind that hate all babies, so why shouldn't the 'Christians' be given a taste of their own medicine?
Thank you, m'lady. I get so frustrated with the attitude that if someone gets tired of being bullied by Christians or seeing others bullied, it's somehow unjust to speak out against that group for doing it.
There are ways and means of pointing out people's flaws or unjust attitudes without resorting to such unpleasant personal attacks. I'm by no means perfect, but I do try to maintain a civil tongue in my head (finger on my keyboard?).

reply from: ChristianLott2

First Vex, you knew I was reading that thread before you posted that information. You posted that PRIVATE information on a PUBLIC forum. Hey, if you want to talk about it go ahead. No one has or probably will stop you but don't you think it's a bit backwards to act like it's impermissible to talk about it when it's about half of what you talk about all of the time?
Quote me the part where I was insensitive. I still can't see it.
Well that's a great analogy. I was trying to get you to reconsider by what reasons I could imagine without using religion.
It's funny that you (applauding their insults and name calling) and your pro abort friends have lashed out with such righteous vehemence, claiming injured feelings when I didn't engage in bible quoting, name calling, or tirades about non existent attacks.
As for starting threads about how Christianity sucks - go right ahead. That's the norm here if you haven't noticed.
Shees.
It wouldn't really make any sense anyway because I don't base my arguments on the Bible. That kind of slipped on past you and your friends.

reply from: ChristianLott2

No. It wouldn't offend me in the least. Calling me an idiot though does offend me. I haven't called you any names.
I'm a good driver. Never gotten in a wreck and I've driven clean across the US more than a few times.
You are the one who doesn't 'get it'. I HAD real concern you were doing something society or others pressured you in to. Now how hard it that to understand?

reply from: ChristianLott2

You called me 'he' and 'him' which made my blood boil!
That's the biggest insult anyone can use against me.
ok, sorry.
Then why didn't you voice those concerns in the opening post?
You had no 'concern'.
You're lying.
Huh? The entire post was pleading with you.

reply from: faithman

The Bible says God himself condoned slavery....so WTF are you talking about? Is the Bible "the word of God" or not?
I would expect a stupid monkey boy humanist to not understand the diference between the kind of "slavery" in the bible, and the kind practiced by the evolutionary driven institution in early America. Bible slavery was indentured servatude, in which the the "servant" did not loose their humanity, and had the hope of going free in time. Evolutionary driven slavery in America said that the african was less human than white europeans, and could be owned as cattle. Huge difference. What I have said lines up with God's word just fine. I guess your baboon brain just isn't evolved enough to understand that, but please do try to keep up.

reply from: ChristianLott2

I see nothing in the original post about "doing something society or others pressured you in to."
What business is it of yours, anyway?
That's what I was asking myself these past months after having to read fifty posts about it. You were asked more than once to drop it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethic_of_reciprocity

reply from: Cecilia

http://www.noobtown.co.nz/bling.jpg

Wow!!
I hope I am not insensitve but coming across more like someone who has little experience with this issue - you look nothing like a male.
You should write about your experiences.

reply from: ChristianLott2

It's a huge part of my life, why would someone NOT talk about something so important.
But anyway, as I've said countless times...
I never brought the issue up. GodsLaw4Us2Live started a thread about transsexuals and toilet use.
Never saw the post.
Okay, so your treating me how you want to be treated?
Yeah. If I one day I told everyone I wanted to castrate myself I hope you'd try to talk me out it.

reply from: ChristianLott2

And if I told everyone that transitioning was too hard and that I was going back to living as a male, I hope you'd try to talk me out of it.
Yes and no.
Yes for the reason you suggested - maybe you are being coerced.
No because that was how you were born.
I faced a similar yes/no thought before I started this thread.
Yes for the same reason. No because everybody alters their bodies with chemicals to some degree.
Maybe I just panicked when I read about the castrati and ginks.

reply from: ChristianLott2

Agreed ^^^
because if vex looked male or was not sterile you two would be against the transition.

reply from: ChristianLott2

By who?
Who the hell in this day and age would push someone to change genders?
This world is full of sick people.
Who in this day and age would murder an innocent baby?
This 'modern' world of yours is an illusion. I used to think like that too.

reply from: Cecilia

Agreed ^^^
because if vex looked male or was not sterile you two would be against the transition.
I'm sorry, do I know you?

reply from: KaylieBee

Um, CLR, can I ask you a question?
How could you start this thread without knowing it would create drama? I know you aren't that dim.

reply from: Cecilia

That's a dodge.
No, it's bloody well not. You have no idea what I'd think under any circumstance because you don't know me, and, unless you are Madame Cleo you can't read minds.

reply from: ChristianLott2

You want names? How the hell should I know?
Maybe the same type of person who molests children.
Funny you aren't concerned about the other evasion from your pro abort friends. I'll chalk that up to you being insincere as well.
As for making this a private discussion - maybe you should have made that comment about your ejaculation situation private. Certainly that was an attempt to offend no one.
This is typical of your type though. You seek attention for this, then when someone doesn't agree with you - you become self righteous and indignant.
The owners of this board can remove this thread at any time and ban me. Have you made that request to the moderator yet? Why or why not?
So what are you doing with your sex organs today? Any new developments we should know??

reply from: ChristianLott2

Sincere concern. I have drama stories too but when I tell them on a public forum I don't act bewildered when people start telling me their real opinions.

reply from: ChristianLott2

No, it's bloody well not. You have no idea what I'd think under any circumstance because you don't know me, and, unless you are Madame Cleo you can't read minds.
Then what was the purpose of remarking on vex's looks? What was the purpose of the pictures?

reply from: ChristianLott2

Good. We need to stay on topic. Thanks.

reply from: ChristianLott2

That's a valid point. If you put your can on the street, don't be surprised if somebody kicks it. The world is full of jerks.
You're the only one with a heart here.

reply from: ChristianLott2

1. To be nice.
2. To show you that I'm a happy person, who doesn't look 'pressured' at all.
Number 2 was explained with the posting of the picture.
Perhaps if you learned to read better these questions wouldn't have such mysterious answers?
No, they were to show everybody how much you look like a girl as justification for the transition.

reply from: ChristianLott2

No no Mr sincere.
Looks like someone seeking attention and affirmation. Sorry I called you a gay guy before you told me you were sterile and xxy, but that's what happens when you put incomplete private information on a public forum. Assumptions happen.
It's all good though. Now that I know CP is around I won't try to voice my 'false concerns'.

reply from: ChristianLott2

Kids used to call me 'Christina' when I was in grammar school. I was a momma's boy.
All of you are acting like society doesn't exist - that society (individuals and groups) COULDN'T influence someone to put themselves in a role that wasn't meant for them.

reply from: ChristianLott2

huh? If there was only a 1% chance your wife would get an abortion, would you have sex with her?
People used to say I looked and acted like a girl, called me Christina, etc. Shouldn't I have sought a 'transition'?
I think it's not only believable but probable that young men are pushed and bullied into homosexuality and gender change. It's a fact boys have been manipulated and bullied into homosexual relationships with older men.
This comes from an anti-heterosexual society. So does abortion.
You think I started a thread to make fun of vex? Oh well. Shows how much you and the others know about intimidation, harassment, bullying, manipulation and the sadism perpetuated by thugs better off in jail. The world's full of them.

reply from: ChristianLott2

you prove my point. l8r

reply from: ChristianLott2

innuendo, slur... bla bla.
continue your hypocrisy, cp. kick the can.
of course, vex would hate to see this thread die.

reply from: Draiocht

I think you might have hit the proverbial nail precisely on the head.
Oh, you really are a perfect example of the pure EVIL behind religion. Keep it up. You help me kick your sanctimonious, hateful asses withe every post you make.

reply from: Cecilia

1. To be nice.
2. To show you that I'm a happy person, who doesn't look 'pressured' at all.
Number 2 was explained with the posting of the picture.
Perhaps if you learned to read better these questions wouldn't have such mysterious answers?
No, they were to show everybody how much you look like a girl as justification for the transition.
This says alot about the kind of person you are, and the kind of people you hang around with than anything aobut Vex.

reply from: ChristianLott2

This says alot about the kind of person you are, and the kind of people you hang around with than anything aobut Vex.
I know because gender change is right for everyone who ever considers it.
I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body. Help.

reply from: ChristianLott2

I think you might have hit the proverbial nail precisely on the head.
Oh, you really are a perfect example of the pure EVIL behind religion. Keep it up. You help me kick your sanctimonious, hateful asses withe every post you make.
Who let the 13 year old in?

reply from: KaylieBee

Why are the mods letting a stupid thread with no more intent beyond calling out and embarrassing a member continue?
Mods please lock this thread.

reply from: ChristianLott2

Why do they let pro aborts spam the forum with pagan threads?

reply from: ChristianLott2

for someone so hurt by this thread you seem to be doing everything you can to keep it going.
admit it, you love the attention.
oh, vexing you're so pretty
oh vexing, you're so misunderstood
oh vexing, i'll be your knight in shinning armor and take up for you
bla bla

reply from: Cecilia

This says alot about the kind of person you are, and the kind of people you hang around with than anything aobut Vex.
I know because gender change is right for everyone who ever considers it.
I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body. Help.
And people like this want to enforce their political beliefs upon me.

reply from: ChristianLott2

And people like this want to enforce their political beliefs upon me.
from the one who's tagline reads
r u lezbo ? omg, me 2!

reply from: KaylieBee

CL2, grow up, or at least learn funny jokes.

reply from: ChristianLott2

got any? i'd hate for this thread to end. vex wouldn't feel the center of attention anymore

reply from: KaylieBee

Are you sure you're not just afraid your brilliant troll-topic will die out?

reply from: ChristianLott2

kb's getting jealous now vex.

reply from: KaylieBee

Why would I be jealous of her? I'm very happy with my own life, tyvm.

reply from: ChristianLott2

you need some attention kb? post some extremely personal information about your anatomy so i can start a thread. vex is old.

reply from: Draiocht

LOL!
Now, THIS prolifer, I like.

reply from: KaylieBee

you need some attention kb? post some extremely personal information about your anatomy so i can start a thread. vex is old.
But that would be entrapment


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