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i apologize...

by: sweet

i would like to sincerely apologize to everyone that i have offended on this forum....directly or indirectly(john, CP, BM, Xen...) or anyone else! i really enjoy talking to you all and learning from you too.....please forgive me for the offense.
Love Sweet

reply from: sweet

I don't think you can learn much from anyone on this forum. You appear to believe you already know all the answers, and show obvious contempt for those who hold differing views.
I also think a sincere apology must include acknowledgment that you have actually done wrong, not just an implication of regret that others were offended by what you may actually feel was justifiable, or in my case, clearly implied that this was the reality of the situation...You actually stated that you did not intend to offend me by dishonestly implying that my "morality" dictates that I must condone my daughter being a "whore." I'm not sure if you are stupid enough to believe that anything I said supported such an assumption, but I'm quite sure you fully realized it was a very offensive thing to say. There was never any reason to try to make it personal as you did, and it was certainly inexcusable based on the fact that there was absolutely no truth in it whatsoever.
I think I've just about said all I have to say on the matter, so hopefully we're done with this now.
i'm sorry for offending you.

reply from: KaylieBee

What caused this change of heart?
Are you sorry for claiming homosexual behavior is disgusting, or that said sexuality is a choice?

reply from: sweet

i don't like to offend anyone....that's why i apologize if i do. homosexuality or any sexuality has nothing to do with my not wanting to offend anyone.yes, homosexuality is wrong and sexuality is a choice.......i still am as careful as possible with the way i present these facts.

reply from: GodsLaw4Us2Live

Choosing to engage in homosexual acts is worse than disgusting.

reply from: KaylieBee

Regardless of how you present beliefs like that people will still be offended.
You have trouble understanding something I have told you multiple times, who you have sex with is not always who you are attracted to. Plenty of gay men have hidden themselves by marrying women and producing children, but they are no less attracted to men, nor any more attracted to women, they're only conforming to a more accepted life style out of fear of people like you.
Maybe to a bigot like you.

reply from: KaylieBee

In before Sweet replies to that with biblical quotes which don't really affect you, since you're not Christian.

reply from: GodsLaw4Us2Live

It is impossible not to offend. The Bible says each side, the children of God and the children of the wicked one, view each other as abominations.

reply from: yoda

Let this be a lesson to any of you who are thinking about apologizing on this forum.........

reply from: sweet

It is impossible not to offend. The Bible says each side, the children of God and the children of the wicked one, view each other as abominations.
if I offend someone, that's one thing. if the truth does....there's not much i can do about that.....however i realize that i can choose better wording/language when presenting these facts: abortion/homosexuality/premarital sex/adultery is wrong.

reply from: sweet

When did you choose to be heterosexual?
What evidence do you have that the statement 'homosexuality is wrong' is a fact?
i choose everyday not to have sex with the same sex. my information source is Bible(kjv).
(Lev 20:13) "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination"

reply from: GodsLaw4Us2Live

No man is an island. Our actions have consequences which affect others. We are our brother's keeper. We are required to become ONE; a people walking together unified with the same purposes and goals. This, ultimately, is the way it has to be. As it is written, "There is one God." Therefore, every member of the God family will be one...in unity. There were be no adversaries with different plans and goals to implement...no other types of gods.

reply from: sweet

bigotry shouldn't be so loosely used.......that would mean i want you to live your life like ME....no, rather live your life not like ME, but like the truth that's there before you in God's Word!
to live your life like ME, you would have to first
1. be a thief, stealing from multiple stores
2. acknowledge and admit that stealing is wrong
3. Repent and ask for FORGIVENESS for sins
4. acknowledge the TRUTH in God's Word
5. pray
as far as 'hate' goes.......
(Proverbs 1-8)
-The fear of the LORD is to hate evil
-fools hate knowledge
-Pro 9:8 Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.
-Ecc 3:8 A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.

reply from: Cecilia

What I learned from this thread is that I like concernedparent.

reply from: Cecilia

i don't like to offend anyone....that's why i apologize if i do. homosexuality or any sexuality has nothing to do with my not wanting to offend anyone.yes, homosexuality is wrong and sexuality is a choice.......i still am as careful as possible with the way i present these facts.
Biblical quotes aren't "facts".

reply from: Cecilia

He's a good chap.
The only real difference between him and most of the pro-choicers is that he doesn't find abortion justifiable based on his moral code. Otherwise he's as unbiased and open minded about sexuality, etc.
There is no religious bigotry or blind following of doctrine - he used logic and reason to reach the conclusion that abortion is not moral.
I'm confused...he doesn't include a moral code in determining that abortion is not moral?

reply from: smom

trying to get this straight... brain strain.
we offend by our beliefs so its okay to offend us for what we believe? Gotta love this country! Isnt it lovely that we can say what we think or not and not be persecuted for it!!! FREEDOM!!!! isnt it GRAND that we can bash our president and put him in his place with our words... and not be tossed in a forgotten jail cell? Weve got it sooooo lucky. Happy labor day!
(just trying to follow...tired from work)

reply from: sweet

When did you choose to be heterosexual?
What evidence do you have that the statement 'homosexuality is wrong' is a fact?
i choose everyday not to have sex with the same sex. my information source is Bible(kjv).
(Lev 20:13) "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination"
When did you choose to be heterosexual?
Please provide FACTS (not scriptures) that homosexuality is 'wrong'.
when i first CHOSE to have sex with the OPPOSITE sex.(Lev 20:13) "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination"

reply from: sweet

i do too. i also like you. i might not like your choices, but i like you.

reply from: sweet

i don't like to offend anyone....that's why i apologize if i do. homosexuality or any sexuality has nothing to do with my not wanting to offend anyone.yes, homosexuality is wrong and sexuality is a choice.......i still am as careful as possible with the way i present these facts.
Biblical quotes aren't "facts".
not only is the Bible FACT.... it is also TRUTH....and God's Holy Word...it is a life guide.
(Lev 20:13) "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination"

reply from: Cecilia

i do too. i also like you. i might not like your choices, but i like you.
I don't know what choices of mine you are referring to. You asked earlier if I was a homosexual. One does not need to be a homosexual to be offended by laws discriminating against homosexuals.
I also don't know what you like about me. You've been nothing but insulting.

reply from: BossMomma

Eh, it happens. No harm no foul.

reply from: BossMomma

Honestly folks, Sweet should be able to think and believe as she wishes, as are we all. If she is pro-life, Christian and, against homosexuality she is free to believe that way, just as you are all free to be the opposite. Message boards are here for everyone, regardless of their beliefs and I don't feel that anyone should have to apologize for the way they believe. I know I wouldn't. As for blatant insults, she said she was sorry for any harm she caused, is it so hard to just leave it at that?

reply from: Cecilia

What is your motivation for this? Are you preaching Wiccan beliefs and realized you aren't really following them?
Sweet of course should be 'able' to believe as she wishes, but if she is flat out wrong in her thinking, it's going to be pointed out to her. Is that not what this message board is about?
"I'm sorry...but...I am right" just means that she is not sorry. If she is not sorry, she shouldn't apologize. She also did not apologize for her beliefs; it was her offensive insults.
Which happen to be her beliefs.
So she's not sorry, actually.

reply from: sweet

i do too. i also like you. i might not like your choices, but i like you.
I don't know what choices of mine you are referring to. You asked earlier if I was a homosexual. One does not need to be a homosexual to be offended by laws discriminating against homosexuals.
I also don't know what you like about me. You've been nothing but insulting.
we choose to be for or against various laws. i apologize for insulting you in any way. i like your knowledge, creativity, and humor...it makes the forum more interesting and exciting!

reply from: sweet

What is your motivation for this? Are you preaching Wiccan beliefs and realized you aren't really following them?Sweet of course should be 'able' to believe as she wishes, but if she is flat out wrong in her thinking, it's going to be pointed out to her. Is that not what this message board is about?
"I'm sorry...but...I am right" just means that she is not sorry. If she is not sorry, she shouldn't apologize. She also did not apologize for her beliefs; it was her offensive insults.
Which happen to be her beliefs.
So she's not sorry, actually.
*laughs*
you see, another reason why i like you....you actually make alot of sense alot of times.....Reminder....my beliefs are: the Bible is true Word of God, abortion is wrong, homosexuality is wrong.

reply from: yoda

They can be. If one quotes them simply as quotes, then why would they not be "facts"?

reply from: yoda

Some folks seem to think that they have a right "not to be offended" by others. The Supreme Court has specifically ruled that we do not:
In Forsyth County v. Nationalist Movement, 505 U.S. 123, 134-35 (1992) the US Supreme Court ruled that speech cannot be "punished or banned, simply because it might offend a hostile mob."

reply from: BossMomma

What is your motivation for this? Are you preaching Wiccan beliefs and realized you aren't really following them?
Sweet of course should be 'able' to believe as she wishes, but if she is flat out wrong in her thinking, it's going to be pointed out to her. Is that not what this message board is about?
"I'm sorry...but...I am right" just means that she is not sorry. If she is not sorry, she shouldn't apologize. She also did not apologize for her beliefs; it was her offensive insults.
Which happen to be her beliefs.
So she's not sorry, actually.
She attempted to make peace and gets jumped on for it, I saw it as unjust and so spoke my opinion.

reply from: yoda

That's kind of spooky..... we agree on something.

reply from: BossMomma

That's kind of spooky..... we agree on something.
See, it's possible. I'm not a hate monger. She mentioned me in her post and while she hadn't offended me in any way she apologized. Homosexuality will never be accepted world wide, many consider it unnatural or nasty, still others think it's a sickness of the mind and pity homosexuals. I'm quite happy letting people be themselves and not trying to change anyone. And just for the record, I support Gay Rights, but that's just me.

reply from: Cecilia

They can be. If one quotes them simply as quotes, then why would they not be "facts"?
I'm not understanding what you mean.
The fact I understand is that those quotes or scriptures are written in the Bible.
That doesn't mean they are true (ie; Genesis).

reply from: yoda

And I think that posters are entitled to the benefit of the doubt when they try to apologize. Sadly, they usually don't get it here.
I don't have a problem with equal rights for everyone (including the unborn ones). However, I don't see marriage as a "right", but rather a privilege granted by and governed by each state. Since it's a matter of state law, and not provided for in the US Constitution, there's no reason to think of it as a civil right.

reply from: yoda

Yeah, you're almost got it. As long as the quotes are accurate, they are "facts". Whether or not you believe them to be true is immaterial to the "fact" that they are a part of scripture.
BTW, your siggy puzzles me..... do you really think that a prolifer would be less inclined to save a baby if there was some way to know that it would grow up to be gay? Really?

reply from: Jameberlin

And I think that posters are entitled to the benefit of the doubt when they try to apologize. Sadly, they usually don't get it here.
I don't have a problem with equal rights for everyone (including the unborn ones). However, I don't see marriage as a "right", but rather a privilege granted by and governed by each state. Since it's a matter of state law, and not provided for in the US Constitution, there's no reason to think of it as a civil right.
It may not be provided for under the constitution, but the constitution was written in a time where marriage was between a man and a woman, preferably blessed by the Christian God. Marriage has become a sort of right in modern times, i think it's just one of those instances where the wording of the constitution hasn't yet caught up the way life is lived today.... I've yet to hear of two consenting heterosexual adults being denied a marriage in any state, hence giving it [marriage] the illusion of being a civil right. Also the fact that if two heterosexuals live together for an extended period of time, they're considered common law spouses, even if they've never sought to obtain a license.
I believe, that in a country that professes a separation of church and state, homosexual couples should be allowed the same rights to obtain civil unions as anyone else.... I don't believe they should expect that their marriage will be recognized as being legitimate by any religious group that doesn't allow for it... but it's the religion's prerogative to condemn it, not the government's.

reply from: Cecilia

No, I don't think that at all.

reply from: Cecilia

i do too. i also like you. i might not like your choices, but i like you.
I don't know what choices of mine you are referring to. You asked earlier if I was a homosexual. One does not need to be a homosexual to be offended by laws discriminating against homosexuals.
I also don't know what you like about me. You've been nothing but insulting.
we choose to be for or against various laws. i apologize for insulting you in any way. i like your knowledge, creativity, and humor...it makes the forum more interesting and exciting!
I believe you are trying to be kind, so I ask this next question with that tone in my head;
If you do not like my values, how can you like 'me'? People whose values I do not care for are not people I care for. I recognze a difference between valuing oranges or art, and moral values like abortion, homosexuality, of course.

reply from: KaylieBee

I love how sweet has yet to respond to my statement that you can have sex with someone you are not attracted to, and that only attraction to the same sex makes you gay.

reply from: 4given

No, I don't think that at all.
You just adore "gay" people? Your attempt to offend pro-lifers that find homosexuality to be an abomination- Christians for example,only discredits your words and ideas. We have been through the "womb gay" argument a few times already. To me, you are also disrespecting the homosexual community- by feeding into the bigotry many battle. Consider removing your less than clever sig. line please.

reply from: KaylieBee

I couldn't possibly have sex with someone I was not attracted to, unless they raped me.
Who knows, maybe Sweet is REALLY not picky and bi.
I doubt I would either, unless I was completely drunk, maybe then. I also can't imagine ever sleeping with another male, even if I were to break up with my boyfriend. I'm a bit afraid of boys.
But many people, who wouldn't have if society were more accepting of homosexuality, have settled into heterosexual relationships just because they were afraid. But it STILL doesn't make them one bit less gay.
I'm very odd about my own sexuality. Since my boyfriend is the only male I've ever really been attracted to, I consider myself a lesbian most of the time, but usually refer myself as pansexual, since I think I could [i}love anyone romantically, but unless I know a guy extremely well, I will never consider him attractive.
Lol off topic babbling.

reply from: sweet

I don't think an apology that fails to acknowledge that the person was wrong is an apology at all. It's like, "I wasn't wrong, but I regret you took it badly." That's not an apology for a wrong committed, that's implied regret that what they viewed as "truth" was offensive. It's like, "I just told it like it was, and I regret that the truth hurts."
If an "apology" is obviously not sincere, as is the case when the one who "apologizes" insists they did nothing wrong, then there is no "doubt" from which they might hope to benefit...
It seems to me that such an "apology" is made only to give the appearance of being a "caring" person after having been a complete @$$, and is made for selfish reasons like perhaps "saving face."
hmm, not bad....though almost too complicated for me to follow......i'll accept name calling from you......it's not the first time i've been called names...might not be the last.......my apology to you 'gives appearance of caring?' ........ THANKS!
*smiles*

reply from: 4given

Consider STFUing.
Surely when you return the favor. Whatever foolish tendencies you are inclined to portray only help to validate the opinions others have formed of you, the person you are and your presence here. Are you simply trolling?

reply from: sweet

when i first CHOSE to have sex with the OPPOSITE sex.(Lev 20:13) "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination"
I didn't ask when you decided to practice your sexual orientation.
I asked when you CHOSE your sexual orientation.
Are you saying that you were attracted to both men and women, sexually, but have chosen only to have sex with the opposite sex?
Once again, scripture is not fact!
Please provide FACTS that state homosexuality is 'wrong'.
FACTS.
NOT SCRIPTURES.both sexes obviously are attractive... i have never chosen this.....it is just fact.....to me jlo, for example is an attractive woman....and brat pitt is an attractive man.

reply from: Jameberlin

Nice try at hiding behind semantics.
Yes, those two celebs are attractive.
But...
Are you attracted to both of them?
As I said, you can't choose who you are attracted to.
Regardless of whether they are attractive in a generic sense.
I wonder if people think about those who are asexual. You know it's a perfectly acceptable sexual orientation... Some people just... aren't sexually attracted to others, and are repulsed at the idea of sex with someone... That to me seems more unnatural than homosexuality... to not be attracted to anyone? Isn't that like... a "waste" of sexuality? haha.

reply from: sweet

i do too. i also like you. i might not like your choices, but i like you.
I don't know what choices of mine you are referring to. You asked earlier if I was a homosexual. One does not need to be a homosexual to be offended by laws discriminating against homosexuals.
I also don't know what you like about me. You've been nothing but insulting.
we choose to be for or against various laws. i apologize for insulting you in any way. i like your knowledge, creativity, and humor...it makes the forum more interesting and exciting!
I believe you are trying to be kind, so I ask this next question with that tone in my head;
If you do not like my values, how can you like 'me'? People whose values I do not care for are not people I care for. I recognze a difference between valuing oranges or art, and moral values like abortion, homosexuality, of course.
example: my brother is currently in prison for robbery......i don't love his crime, but i love him.....one friend had an abortion...i don't love her choice, but i love her...another friend has sex with the same sex, i don't love his choice to do that, but i love him....my stepdad killed my mom... i don't love his crime, but i love him...we discuss these choices just like on this forum.....i love them in spite of it all!

reply from: BossMomma

Nice try at hiding behind semantics.
Yes, those two celebs are attractive.
But...
Are you attracted to both of them?
As I said, you can't choose who you are attracted to.
Regardless of whether they are attractive in a generic sense.
I wonder if people think about those who are asexual. You know it's a perfectly acceptable sexual orientation... Some people just... aren't sexually attracted to others, and are repulsed at the idea of sex with someone... That to me seems more unnatural than homosexuality... to not be attracted to anyone? Isn't that like... a "waste" of sexuality? haha.
Heh, ask the earth worm, they screw themselves.

reply from: Jameberlin

Nice try at hiding behind semantics.
Yes, those two celebs are attractive.
But...
Are you attracted to both of them?
As I said, you can't choose who you are attracted to.
Regardless of whether they are attractive in a generic sense.
I wonder if people think about those who are asexual. You know it's a perfectly acceptable sexual orientation... Some people just... aren't sexually attracted to others, and are repulsed at the idea of sex with someone... That to me seems more unnatural than homosexuality... to not be attracted to anyone? Isn't that like... a "waste" of sexuality? haha.
Heh, ask the earth worm, they screw themselves.
They also have two hearts! OOOOOhhh! Neat.

reply from: sweet

Nice try at hiding behind semantics.
Yes, those two celebs are attractive.
But...
Are you attracted to both of them?
As I said, you can't choose who you are attracted to.
Regardless of whether they are attractive in a generic sense.i thought i answered that question....i might need your definition of 'attracted to.'

reply from: sweet

So you think homosexuality is the equivalent of robbery or murder?they all are wrong.

reply from: 4given

I wonder the same thing about you.
And no, I'm defending the rights of others, while you try to tear them down.
Whom am I tearing down? How?

reply from: Jameberlin

Nice try at hiding behind semantics.
Yes, those two celebs are attractive.
But...
Are you attracted to both of them?
As I said, you can't choose who you are attracted to.
Regardless of whether they are attractive in a generic sense.i thought i answered that question....i might need your definition of 'attracted to.'
I think she means someone you'd be naturally drawn to having sex with.
Obviously, the heterosexual woman acknowledges that both Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt are attractive, while there is one, obvious candidate for sex.

reply from: 4given

Oddly I read where you compared a child that is a substance abuser, arsonist etc.. to one that should have been aborted. Do you really believe a mother of a drug-addicted child would somehow come to the conclusion that his or her life would have been better had they been ripped apart and spread into the landfill?! Seriously?

reply from: sweet

i'm not 'naturally drawn' to having sex with either(jlo or brad pitt)...so what does that make me?

reply from: KaylieBee

If you get tingly in your panties when looking at an attractive girl, you're attracted to her. If you get tingly in your panties when looking at an attractive boy, you're attracted to him.
Do you mean either gender, or either of the people you mentioned? If it's the gender, why did you go through the process of creating children if you aren't attracted to men?

reply from: Jameberlin

Oh i fully appreciate it as an acceptable way to be.. I was just wondering why nobody talks about it. You know, it's not "normal"(as if anything is). Is it just as wrong to some people, i wonder... not wanting to have sex with anyone, as not wanting to have sex with someone of the opposite gender?

reply from: sweet

If you get tingly in your panties when looking at an attractive girl, you're attracted to her. If you get tingly in your panties when looking at an attractive boy, you're attracted to him.
Do you mean either gender, or either of the people you mentioned? If it's the gender, why did you go through the process of creating children if you aren't attracted to men?
jlo nor brad...i have been 'tingly' for a girl in the past...thank God i chose not to act on it! i wouldn't have my beautiful children if i had!

reply from: BossMomma

If you get tingly in your panties when looking at an attractive girl, you're attracted to her. If you get tingly in your panties when looking at an attractive boy, you're attracted to him.
Do you mean either gender, or either of the people you mentioned? If it's the gender, why did you go through the process of creating children if you aren't attracted to men?
jlo nor brad...i have been 'tingly' for a girl in the past...thank God i chose not to act on it! i wouldn't have my beautiful children if i had!
Actually many same sex couples are becoming parents these days thanks to open adoption, invetrofertilization and, the use of surrogates.

reply from: KaylieBee

How would have having an encounter with a woman prevented you from doing your husband? You're married, right?
If I hadn't been with my boyfriend when my friend offered herself to me (any time, so if we ever break up I can call her up and get some sympathy girl lovin', I suppose)
So are you bisexual, sweet? I imagine you'll say 'no' even if you are. I like to think even just one means you are, which is why I can't call myself a lesbian, even though I've only ever wanted ONE guy.

reply from: KaylieBee

I have trouble understanding it sometimes, since sex is such a great experience, but I honestly don't care what some chooses to do or not to do with their sex life, as long as all parties are both consenting, and legally capable of doing so.

reply from: Jameberlin

i'm not 'naturally drawn' to having sex with either(jlo or brad pitt)...so what does that make me?
OKay, lets put it this way, you're in a vacuum and you've never heard of these things called Christian Morals... There are two people in front of you, both, incredibly attractive... You feel the draw to have sex with someone, who do you pick? Naturally, the first choice, the gut reaction... That's your orientation.
I never chose to be attracted to men. I always have been. The idea of sex with women is not at all stimulating to me.
You've heard women muse, i'm sure, about "if only we could get rid of the men..." I wonder, if sexuality is such a choice, why can't we all just up and switch vines? "I'll go with Jane, thanks.. You keep Tarzan."
Personally, i'd miss men, i'm sure.

reply from: sweet

Oh i fully appreciate it as an acceptable way to be.. I was just wondering why nobody talks about it. You know, it's not "normal"(as if anything is). Is it just as wrong to some people, i wonder... not wanting to have sex with anyone, as not wanting to have sex with someone of the opposite gender?not wanting to get married is fine....it's best not to have sex while you're single.

reply from: Jameberlin

How would have having an encounter with a woman prevented you from doing your husband? You're married, right?
If I hadn't been with my boyfriend when my friend offered herself to me (any time, so if we ever break up I can call her up and get some sympathy girl lovin', I suppose)
So are you bisexual, sweet? I imagine you'll say 'no' even if you are. I like to think even just one means you are, which is why I can't call myself a lesbian, even though I've only ever wanted ONE guy.
Some people act on adolescent bisexual tendencies, but this doesn't necessarily make them bisexual. My sister is an actual bisexual who does it for her own enjoyment, and because she is equally sexually attracted to both men and women.. Even though she is in a stable, heterosexual, and now monogamous relationship (and has been for 14 years).
There are plenty of heterosexual women who enjoy viewing lesbian porn too, but i think that's more about seeing women enjoy themselves in a safe environment, than actually wanting to have sex with women.
I have a gay friend who has had girlfriends... he's not bi, but he has craved the monogamous companionship of women from time to time.. this includes sex, at times.
I don't think sexuality is as black and white as "straight/gay/bi"... but that's just me.

reply from: KaylieBee

Huh? Asexuals don't want sex at all, at any time, EVER. What does not wanting to be married have to do with it?
I imagine they can still love without having sex. Their selection may be limited, but they can still marry, can't they? Promise to love another person for their entire lives?
What would be wrong with that?

reply from: Jameberlin

Oh i fully appreciate it as an acceptable way to be.. I was just wondering why nobody talks about it. You know, it's not "normal"(as if anything is). Is it just as wrong to some people, i wonder... not wanting to have sex with anyone, as not wanting to have sex with someone of the opposite gender?not wanting to get married is fine....it's best not to have sex while you're single.
That's not what i'm talking about, there are plenty of asexual people who crave constant companionship and experience a full range of emotions for other people, including love.. but just don't wish to have sex... ever. These people sometimes choose to get married, but don't wish to have sex... what's your view on someone who gets married but never intends to consummate it? Is that not just as unnatural as wanting to have sex with a person of your own gender?

reply from: KaylieBee

Heh, I actually despise 'lesbian' porn. The last thing I want to see is two stupid straight girls doing each other for the sake of male attention and 'fame'. Seriously. One of the things I hate most is stupid straight girls who feign interest in women for male attention. T_T
That and lesbian porn just sucks. What the hell is arousing about performing oral sex on 16" of silicone?
Hmph. Part of me really wishes to get a chance to explore my girl loving side. I think if I never get to I'll be somewhat disappointed in myself.

reply from: sweet

How would have having an encounter with a woman prevented you from doing your husband? You're married, right?
If I hadn't been with my boyfriend when my friend offered herself to me (any time, so if we ever break up I can call her up and get some sympathy girl lovin', I suppose) So are you bisexual, sweet? I imagine you'll say 'no' even if you are. I like to think even just one means you are, which is why I can't call myself a lesbian, even though I've only ever wanted ONE guy.no...i cant be a choice!
'bisexual' is a made up term for a choice...just like 'gay' or 'lesbian.'

reply from: Jameberlin

Well, that attitude can change. Asexuality can be temporary or life-long.
It depends on the individual.
I'm sure it's been done millions of times.
As couples age and the sex drive deteriorates, many of them become asexual, married couples.
Nothing at all
Vexing, i agree completely. I just marvel, sometimes at the blatant lack of acknowledgment for other perfectly legitimate forms of sexuality. In other words... Homosexuality, the greatest evil of all time... is the main focus... always.
I find it much more productive if people could focus on sexual acts that involve the victimization or harm of another person... since i see those as being the only true forms of evil, or demented sexuality.

reply from: KaylieBee

You have inspired a rage in the pit of my stomach which I will have to drown out by reading myself to sleep with Harry potter.
Do tell me how I CHOSE to be attracted to be fascinated by women's bodies at the age of eight. Tell me why I CHOSE to be attracted to my best friend in middle school, and ultimately ruin our friendship because of that love (I ALWAYS wanted to be with her, hear her voice, be able to inhale the sweet smell of her hair). I was so scared of this attraction that I convinced myself I liked a boy, allowed him to take advantage of me when I was 13. Why do I 'chose' to be attracted to women as well as men?
What do you think of Pansexuals?

reply from: Jameberlin

Heh, I actually despise 'lesbian' porn. The last thing I want to see is two stupid straight girls doing each other for the sake of male attention and 'fame'. Seriously. One of the things I hate most is stupid straight girls who feign interest in women for male attention. T_T
That and lesbian porn just sucks. What the hell is arousing about performing oral sex on 16" of silicone?
Hmph. Part of me really wishes to get a chance to explore my girl loving side. I think if I never get to I'll be somewhat disappointed in myself.
I would think, just like straight porn, some are more genuine and enjoyable than others... . (i.e. indie porn)
You're absolutely right, anyone who feigns interest for others enjoyment is not being true to their sexuality. Which is why i think most people, girls especially, who have lesbian encounters do so in order to impress guys at a party, and are NOT bisexual.
I've personally never had an interest in having sex with another woman. And as i aged, i found out that it's really not necessary. I used to think that i would want to explore all kinds of different sex, back when i'd only had sex with one person (my now husband) then i figured out i really loved him and sex with him was better than anyone else... Now i've got virtually no desire to even think about sex with another person, let alone a woman.
But, everybody is different.

reply from: sweet

You're deeply in denial.
Bisexuality is a completely valid term for people who find various individuals of both genders to be sexually attractive to them.
Do you think all people are equally attracted to women AND men?
That anyone could just screw anyone if they were propositioned?
your last sentence^ is CORRECT.
gotta go for now...nite everyone.

reply from: Jameberlin

How would have having an encounter with a woman prevented you from doing your husband? You're married, right?
If I hadn't been with my boyfriend when my friend offered herself to me (any time, so if we ever break up I can call her up and get some sympathy girl lovin', I suppose) So are you bisexual, sweet? I imagine you'll say 'no' even if you are. I like to think even just one means you are, which is why I can't call myself a lesbian, even though I've only ever wanted ONE guy.no...i cant be a choice!
'bisexual' is a made up term for a choice...just like 'gay' or 'lesbian.'
Okay, i think there needs to be some clarification... Sexual orientation is not a conscious choice, but you can choose how you will act on it. You can choose who to have sex with, and not.
You can choose to act on your lesbianism by having sex with women, or ignore it by having sex with men.
The weird thing about sexuality, is that it's not all black and white... Most sexually secure people will find someone outside their normal group of potential partners and find themselves inexplicably attracted to that person.... It doesn't mean ANYTHING!
You know what? Right now i'm attracted to a man, that makes me straight... If tomorrow i fall in love with a woman, tomorrow i will be a lesbian... If the day after that, i'm attracted to a man and a woman, i will be bisexual.
What an interesting, ever changing beast human sexuality is.

reply from: KaylieBee

Indeed. But some of the 'indie' porn I've discovered is along the lines of 'drunk girl does x to her friend at party'. I would be so excited if I found porn of legitimate lesbians, or even a straight couple who legitimately loved each other, and loved making love to each other.
Probably never going to happen
I call them trysexuals, like they're just 'trying on' the thing. I'm not sure why, but the thought of them doing it for attention just revolts me! I think it hurts real lesbians, as it perpetrates the retarded male idea that his amazing self can 'change' her. Part of me is wary of beautiful girls who say they are attracted to women. At this stage in my life I'm be very nervous about getting into a relationship with a girl. I'd be scared she was just doing it to get male attention (I imagine a situation like: 'mm, kaylie, let's make out now.' then I notice a group of males gawking at us.) or to make her parents angry.
Maybe I'll grow up a little and decide I don't need any body else. It's weird that I am disgusted by the thought of sleeping with another man, but enjoy the thought of another woman.

reply from: Jameberlin

your last sentence^ is CORRECT.
gotta go for now...nite everyone.
Um...no.
Men can't get an erection if they are not sexually aroused.
Two men who don't find each other sexually attractive can't have sex with each other because they can't get an erection.
Sweet thinks everyone is inherently bisexual and without taste (i.e. they will screw anyone, regardless of how they look, smell, or sound).
Men actually can get erections without being sexually aroused, and can actually have sex without being interested in their partner... Don't ask me how i know this... it's a long and terribly depressing story (THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH ME).
Just like women can have sex with men they're repulsed by.. But why would they, if they had the choice not to?
The question here is natural attraction, not what's actually physically possible.

reply from: Jameberlin

Having been in the situation where my partner has initiated sex, but I haven't wanted it, yes it is possible to get an erection and have sex. You simply imagine it is with someone else of your sexual preference.
i.e. you like women, imagine it is with another woman.
But you'll find that straight men just can't have sex with straight men. The erection won't happen. If they have a spontaneous erection, it will wither away rather quickly.
It's easy for women (and gay 'bottoms') - they just have to lie there and take it.
Straight men can't be 'tops'.
Where the penis is concerned, the brain will more often than not overcome anything physical.
That's true. Sometimes the desire to complete and act overpowers the adversity to said act, though.
But everybody reacts differently, and has sex for different reasons.

reply from: Jameberlin

Viagra gives you a boner whether you want one or not, so i've heard... and they sometimes don't go away, hence the whole "call us if an erection lasts more than four hours" bit.
I have heard of men (one in particular) being so turned off by the idea of having sex with a particular girl, that he lost his boner, but was so intent on proving his manhood that he forced himself to think of someone else in order to finish the act.
You can force yourself to try to have sex with someone you're not attracted to, but different people have varying degrees of success.
I would say that your assessment of male sexuality in regards to... the firmness of the noodle, so to speak... is correct for most all instances, though.

reply from: sweet

that depends on the spouse's response.

reply from: KaylieBee

Um, I'm pretty sure if you get close enough to someone to want to marry them they will know how you feel about sex.

reply from: sweet

you don't have to be attracted to someone to have sex with them..it's a choice.

reply from: sweet

we have drifted from the topic of apologies....i use to have an extremely difficult time apologizing to people....now i know that since i'm capable of faults.... i'm not perfect.... i have insulted, hurt, and offended many people in my lifetime....since i regret doing so, i apologize.....apologizing is not only for the other person, but for me also.....it clears my conscience......also, i know i can't erase the past, but i can change the future of how i behave and respond to others.....i do realize my apology will not always be liked, accepted or appreciated....but i can't let that stop me....i must look toward the positives.

reply from: sweet

yeah and that's one reason homosexuality is wrong...it's all about having SEX with any and everything you find 'attractive'....they supposedly do this because they love each other...nonsense....you don't have sex with EVERYONE you love, besides, love is a choice too...why do you think we are commanded to LOVE... we can choose to love or not.
1Jo 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

reply from: KaylieBee

...Lol, you think you chose to love?
So you're saying you could stop loving your kids right now if you wanted to?

reply from: sweet

we are commanded to love our neighbors....we can choose to or not.
(1Jo 4:7) Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

reply from: sweet

we are commanded to love our neighbor...we can choose to or not.
1Jo 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

reply from: sweet

fall in love? we choose to love (giving, sharing, caring, teaching, respecting...) each other daily.
Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
Col 3:19 Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them.
Tts 2:4 That they may teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children

reply from: sweet

you are the main one who should agree that some answers aren't 'yes' or 'no.' i have no reason to 'evade.' i would say 'evade' when YOU creatively dance around the TRUTH in the Word of God, instead i'll remind you the truth shall make you free.

reply from: sweet

*shakes the dust off of feet*

reply from: Cecilia

I honestly don't think she can.

reply from: sweet

I honestly don't think she can.
is the Bible truth? YES.
is God real? YES.
is cecilia right? NO.
*smiles*

reply from: BossMomma

I honestly don't think she can.
is the Bible truth? YES.
is God real? YES.
is cecilia right? NO.
*smiles*
Prove all 3

reply from: sweet

you are breathing, arent you?

reply from: sweet

you are breathing arent you?

reply from: sweet

*God brings men into deep waters not to drown them, but to cleanse them.
*It's easier to go down a hill than up it, but the view is much better at the top.
*Tough times never last, but tough people do.
*The reward of suffering is experience.
*When things are bad, we take comfort in the thought that they could always get worse. And when they are, we find hope in the thought that things are so bad they have to get better.

reply from: sweet

I'LL have to do better? no, YOU'LL have to do better God bashing than that to convince ME to join in! until then...
*smiles*
*praises God*

reply from: sweet

(Mar 8:12) And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation.

reply from: sweet

Translation:
"I don't have any proof."
are you seeking after a SIGN? from ME? *smiles*
is it a SPORT for you to ignore the Truth of Our Holy God that is right before you? to ignore/mock/bash/denounce the Holy God that has created you?
(Pro 10:23) It is as sport to a fool to do mischief: but a man of understanding hath wisdom.

reply from: BossMomma

you are breathing, arent you?
My lungs are fully functional and do take in oxygen and exhale carbon dioxide yes, this has what to do with the BS assertions you made earlier?

reply from: BossMomma

Translation:
"I don't have any proof."
are you seeking after a SIGN? from ME? *smiles*
is it a SPORT for you to ignore the Truth of Our Holy God that is right before you? to ignore/mock/bash/denounce the Holy God that has created you?
(Pro 10:23) It is as sport to a fool to do mischief: but a man of understanding hath wisdom.
For something to be true it must first be proven, thus far no christian in this world has been able to accomplish that feat. Continuing to answer every question with a quote from a book that's as good as Aesop's Fables does nothing but show that you are incapable of a logical, factual debate.

reply from: Draiocht

An apology framed as "I'm sorry you were offended" isn't really an apology.
Not that I expect the pro-rapist bigots on here to give a flying hoot about it, given their slimy character, but I imagine the half-decent individuals like CP, CM and Galen see Vex as a human being worthy of their respect.

reply from: sweet

everyone who God has created is worthy of respect and apology...whether it is accepted is NOT up to the apologizer.*smiles* i am thankful to God for giving me the humility in acknowledging that i am not flawless...thank God that MY pride isnt keeping ME from admitting His Truth and Holy Word...i dont have to prove God's Holy Word - for it proves itself over and over again often through the very mouth of those that reject God...i enjoy the True Bible and quote it as often as i see necessary and as often as God leads me to do so...it's funny how those that denounce God find themselves referring back to His True Word again and again which only discounts themselves everytime!

reply from: sweet

Christian was originally a term used as mockery...i take it as a compliment because it confirms God's True Word yet again...i have been called Christian several times without calling myself Christian! *smiles*
(Acts 11:26) And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch....also, the mockery is expected, as it confirms God's Word....i am not ashamed to suffer as a Christian.
(1Pe 4:16) Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.

reply from: sweet

again, i am thankful to GOD for giving me the humility in acknowledging that i am not flawless.

reply from: BossMomma

As I said, you know nothing of persecution.
Try being called Shemale, Fairy, Fruit, Faggot, AC/DC, Cocksucker, Tranny, Sissy, etc, etc.
Heck, moms are refered to as cows, breeders, heifers, moo's, brood mares etc. etc. For every type of person there is likely to be a nasty name. Don't take it so personally.

reply from: KaylieBee

Do you're saying you wouldn't be upset if everyone around you started referring to you with those terms? And treated you as less than human?

reply from: BossMomma

What's the point of getting offended? It wont stop anything, typically when stupid people resort to calling names they are trying to hide their own short coming.

reply from: BossMomma

I'm sorry, but at least you're not treated like a second class citizen.
I am, however.
By whom? The religion blind imbecile who couldn't even keep his own marriage together long enough to have kids? (yes Augustine I'm refering to you) Consider the source, he has no other way to cope with what he doesn't understand and so he resorts to childish name calling.

reply from: BossMomma

No, we just can't know it's true until it's proven. What is true is true regardless of whether it can be proven. It does not become true only when proven. It must actually be true before it can be proven, and not having been proven does not make it untrue.
It was true that the earth is spherical and revolves around the sun long before it was proven. If this was not the case, it could never have been proven, since it would not have been true...
Ok, let me rephrase that for mr. ***** technicality. For something to be a proven fact as far as humans are concerned, it must first be proved. (waits for CP's next stream of bull*****)

reply from: sweet

(Rev 3:20) Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

reply from: sweet

(Rev 3:20) Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

reply from: sweet

Right. And anything you ask in prayer, believing, shall be given to you....
(Rev 3:20) Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
(Rev 3:20) Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

reply from: sweet

(Rev 3:20) Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

reply from: KaylieBee

Sweet, if you actually give a damn, stop before you're banned for spamming.

reply from: sweet

if it wasn't for God, who knows where i'd be! i thank God for showing me that abortion is wrong!

reply from: sweet

LOL! you all are actually cute in your own little way...i'm thankful God has allowed me this time to chat with you all...there is always new things to learn from everyone*smiles*

reply from: sweet

i just learned something new--> 'you think i'm not learning anything!' i actually enjoy learning from you!
*smiles*

reply from: BossMomma

i just learned something new--> 'you think i'm not learning anything!' i actually enjoy learning from you!
*smiles*
*sigh* keep smiling, everyone loves a moron.

reply from: sweet

*smiles*
uum, what is a moron anyway? another compliment? Thanks in advance!
*smiles again*

reply from: sweet

OK...i also learned to like you.
*smiles*

reply from: sweet

OK...i also learned to like you.
*smiles*
What, no more spam?
here goes...SPAM! SPAM! SPAM!
there.
LOL

reply from: yoda

So it's not proven until it's proven. Thank you for imparting such profound wisdom on us...
Oh yeah........ I stand in complete shock and awe........

reply from: yoda

OK...i also learned to like you.
*smiles*
Now you're being "abusive", sweet, because the one thing a hateful person cannot stand is for someone to be kind to them.....

reply from: sweet

OK...i also learned to like you.
*smiles*
Now you're being "abusive", sweet, because the one thing a hateful person cannot stand is for someone to be kind to them.....
yeah, i see. but i have many family members and friends that are the same way...and i love them anyway! one of my friends called me the B word because she was having a bad day. i didn't hold it against her, i just waited until she cooled off to talk to her again...she cooled off and things were fine...and still are. i just focus on the good qualities she has (smart, funny, giving, etc)...Vexy has good qualities i'm sure.*smiles*

reply from: cracrat

You...are...such a saint sweet. Do tell, how can I become a little more like you?

reply from: sweet

You...are...such a saint sweet. Do tell, how can I become a little more like you?first of all, ask CP *Jokes*
well, i give God the credit for all that i have and all that i am...i use to carry around so much hatred - mainly for my stepdad who killed my mom - if you hate one, it's easy for you to hate another...it also affects the love you have for any (which i didn't realize at the time)...it wasn't until i forgave my stepdad - whom i also now love (not his actions)...that i was able to 'fine tune' love...love doesn't mix well in a heart that has hate - and it shows in many ways...for example, i couldn't tell my siblings that i loved them because we all knew i hated my stepdad which made my love conditional - now i easily and joyfully tell them i love them because i do and it's not tainted with hate anymore and they value love that is unconditional...it's not limited to perfection.

reply from: sweet

You...are...such a saint sweet. Do tell, how can I become a little more like you?
No, no, no, no, no! Don't even go there, not even sarcastically!LOL LOL...*smiles*
*drinks water*
*sighs*
*smiles again*
*types reply*
i like a good sense of humor!

reply from: KaylieBee

Seriously, it's like being 9 again on the neopets rp forum every damn time i read one of her posts.

reply from: sweet

can you translate that^ for me if you don't mind?

reply from: sweet

can you translate that^ for me if you don't mind?
*smiles*

reply from: KaylieBee

Your idiotic habit of placing words in asterisks (mimicking actions) reminds of me how nine year olds 'role play' on the neopets role playing board.
Basically the way you type is really damn annoying, as you seem to have a fetish for ellipses and asterisks.

reply from: sweet

i wouldnt say fetish...by the way, is neopets a cool game? would you recommend the site to others' kids? i might visit the site.

reply from: sweet

OK...i also learned to like you.
*smiles*
Now you're being "abusive", sweet, because the one thing a hateful person cannot stand is for someone to be kind to them.....
Naw, we just find false niceness to be...*gasp* false.i appreciate niceness.

reply from: sweet

?huh? i didn't get that^...anyway, God is the reason i have what i have and am what i am...and i'm thankful to God...yeah, the same God you mock.

reply from: sweet

you WON'T get me to join in on your God bashing craze...God has blessed me TOO MUCH to even consider stooping in such a way...if you don't recognize your blessings, that's not MY fault...at the same time, you shouldn't condemn me for thanking/praising/acknowledging God!

reply from: sweet

*smiles*
you quote from the TRUE HOLY WORD OF GOD...i am delighted to know you will take time to do so...obviously your relationship with God is only truly known by Him...that's exactly why no one should be told to PROVE anything that has to do with God...when He rewards you openly, that itself will be proof for those that seek it...that's why i don't require/demand proof of God's work.
*smiles*

reply from: sweet

wow! interesting...by the way, you call it 'my book'...don't flatter me...you say you've 'forgotten'...that's seems pretty common when it's only memorized, and not digested. i tend to forget under similar circumstances. i wasn't raised in a 'Christian household'...my childhood was every bit of deluded and 'broken'...i only read the Bible for the first time about 8 years ago...there truly is a 'time to every purpose.' it saddens me to hear that about the person who raised you. what was the 'deluded' part, if i may ask.

reply from: sweet

By 7-8 I was questioning the interpretations of church elders. I understood what the book said...That was the problem, dense one. I found it to be contradictory and disturbing.oh, i see...that's really great that you had that understanding at such an early age...my whole childhood was 'contradictory' to the Word of God...but for some reason, i know that doesn't change the Truth...if i change or my family changes, that doesn't change God...my mother was murdered - God is still the same God he was before then...i can certainly understand how/why some would be bitter in certain cases though...i choose not to be (anymore).

reply from: sweet

i agree with this explanation:
The Bible is the world's all-time best selling book. About 2.5 billion copies have been printed which are available in over 700 languages. The word "inspired" (theopneustos) in the original Greek language literally means "God-breathed". When the Bible claims to be inspired, we understand therefore, that it came from the mouth of God. It is God-breathed, inspired. But a skeptic will say, "Everyone knows the Bible was written by men! The book of 1 Corinthians, for example, was written by a man named Paul. After all, the very first verse bears his name as the author." In reply to this we answer: "Yes, 1 Corinthians was written by Paul. Notice however, what Paul said in chapter 14, verse 37: "things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord." Paul knew the source of his writings and understood that he was like a pen in the hand of Almighty God. We must not view the Bible as the word of Paul, Peter, or Jeremiah, but rather, as the message God revealed through these men just as it is written in Jeremiah 1:9
Then the Lord put forth his hand, and touched my mouth, and the Lord said unto me, "behold, I have put my words in thy mouth".
The Bible writers were not like news reporters giving their personal interpretation of events they eye-witnessed, but were divinely guided as 2 Peter 1:20-21 says,
"Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost."

reply from: sweet

the Bible proves itself and backs up it's own claims in it's entirety.

reply from: Cecilia

My young nephew says he is right all the time and backs up his claims entirely. He must be right?
I just finished reading the Lord of the Rings. (Whew! What a good read!) It must be right because of the extensive appendices backing up it's claims entirely?
This sort of circular reasoning "the bible is right because it says it is" is not doing your faith, or your cult, if you will, any favors. No one would have a problem with you proclaiming your faith if you simply recognized that it is a faith, not a fact.

reply from: sweet

that about sums it up.

reply from: sweet

the Bible is true regardless of my
faith...just like all other facts.

reply from: sweet

of course it is faith and facts...i know for a fact through faith!

reply from: sweet

i have no problem proclaiming my faith in God and the Bible...it is not my own logic/intellect or smarts in no way that brought me to know the Truth...if anyone has a problem with my faith or God or the Bible, that's not my fault...God gets the glory for everything i know and have and am and believe through him...i don't know everything, but i do know that if you think God doesn't exist, or that His Holy Bible is faulty--you're the wrong one...God is real and His Word is True...this may offend many, but i can't help that if the truth offends you.

reply from: cracrat

It's also the book most commonly stolen from bookshops. Fairly irrelevant, but a nice bit of Christian trivia.

reply from: sweet

It's also the book most commonly stolen from bookshops. Fairly irrelevant, but a nice bit of Christian trivia.that's interesting! i never heard that before...i guess i shouldn't be surprised either...i wonder what they do with it afterwards. *looks confused*

reply from: sweet

Well, obviously, LOL!you're back! i actually kind of missed your insults! LOL!

reply from: sweet

whew! i'm glad the insults have subsided! i'm happy about that! does anyone else have something that they are happy about?

reply from: sweet

LOL,LOL...anyone else?

reply from: sweet

i'm sure everyone has something good that has happened to them today!...posting it may encourage and inspire others!

reply from: KaylieBee

I got some new perfume and a special box set collectors edition of The Nightmare Before Christmas, I may also be getting snake bites and a cell phone(an LG or Blackberry) soon. And once I get my license my parents are buying me a nice, black car.
Is that good?

reply from: KaylieBee

No, Neopets is run by pedophiles.
The more you know...

reply from: sweet

sounds exciting! i wonder if gas is gonna ever get to how it was 10 years or so ago or will it keep rising?!

reply from: sweet

anything good happened today?
i'm sure everyone has something good that has happened to them today!...posting it may encourage and inspire others! *smiles*

reply from: yoda

The McCain/Palin ticket is still leading the Obama/Biden ticket today....

reply from: sweet

hurray! but i didn't say SUPER good things! *smiles*

reply from: sweet

any good announcements for today?

reply from: Cecilia

I have read that they are tied neck to neck.
I just can't understand how people are not profoundly for Obama if just because he represents the biggest change from the sludge of the last eight years. I have to conclude: A. That people who voted for Bush are still unintelligent or B. The whole thing is fixed. Probably both. If after the past eight years you still support the Republican party you are not a smart person.
Two party "democracy" is such a comic.

reply from: sweet

"NObama!" (he's pro-abortion and pro-homosexuality)

reply from: KaylieBee

Baaaaw, people have a happier romantic/sex life than me, KILL THEM!

reply from: MC3

CECILIA,
First, a person would have to be incredibly simple-minded to vote for a candidate simply on a promise of "change." The questions is, what is BO proposing that we change from and change to? Second, there is nothing inherently positive about change, even within the context of a bad situation. As people gain wisdom in life, they come to recognize that, sometimes, the cure for a disease is worse than the disease itself. Third, if the time ever comes that the only way we can have "change" is to turn this country over to a heretical, morally degenerate, Marxist like BO, then we are history anyway.

reply from: GodsLaw4Us2Live

Now who's afraid of whom?
MC3 is correct. BO is a liberal among liberals. The consequences to this country would be extremely severe if a person like BO became President.

reply from: cracrat

I assure you BO is not. I'm a hopelessly wooly liberal in pretty much all respects and I find some of his utterances distastefully conservative right-wing. If I had a vote in your election I don't think I'd cast it for him, just not far enough to the left.

reply from: Cecilia

I have no room to lay hope in the intelligence of others.
Example: Bush was reelected.

reply from: cracrat

I have no room to lay hope in the intelligence of others.
Example: Bush was reelected.
Not so much re-elected as stole one election then won another. Fabulous what can be achieved when Daddy's chums control the SCOTUS.

reply from: KaylieBee

Well then, it looks like you're *****ed either way, eh?
I got room for one American refugee at my place. Best hurry and get your ticket out of there before the economy collapses and prices skyrocket.
Oooh, I can take one too. But they have to be prochoice, young, female, and NOT FAT.

reply from: sweet

encouraging words:
~If your knees are knocking, kneel on them.
~Nothing bad ever happens without equal or growth.
~If you're on thin ice, you might as well dance.
~ The sooner I fall behind, the more time I have to catch up.
~He who knows the darkness shall learn to live in the light.

reply from: yoda

Oh my, you interrupted their nonsense to post something meaningful...
How dare you?

reply from: KaylieBee

No yoda, I'm being serious. I will rescue a prochoice girl between the ages of 14-18 (since I only like girls 18 or under usually, and 14 isn't off limits for me anymore, yay) who is slim and attractive, should McCain/Palin win.

reply from: KaylieBee

We posted at the same second, vexy, that means we're destined for eachother.
Make love to me in this series of tubes.

reply from: KaylieBee

Hells yeah!
If your country has an AOC above 16 they're cheating you.

reply from: KaylieBee

Damn, ours is
19
19
18
16(was 14 until march of this year)
16
I like your country.

reply from: sweet

*smiles*
*Stares* *laughs out loud*
*waits for next nice remark*(EDITED for benefit of doubt)

reply from: KaylieBee

It's as if she's secretly a troll...

reply from: Cecilia

Too late. Probably just the beginning, though.
Edit to add: I did not remember you are from New Zealand. Have always been interested in the country. Policies are friendly to women?

reply from: Cecilia

I have no room to lay hope in the intelligence of others.
Example: Bush was reelected.
Not so much re-elected as stole one election then won another. Fabulous what can be achieved when Daddy's chums control the SCOTUS.
I stand corrected.

reply from: sweet

good news announcement:
my computer crashed so i now officially have an excuse to get a brand new one!!
(though i'm not sure when)
anyone else have GOOD NEWS?

reply from: cracrat

Looks like I've passed my transfer viva so I'll be allowed to continue my PhD.

reply from: KaylieBee

Get a mac so I can have another reason to dislike you.

reply from: sweet

Looks like I've passed my transfer viva so I'll be allowed to continue my PhD.awesome - doesnt it take a life time to become a Dr?

reply from: sweet

Get a mac so I can have another reason to dislike you.LOL -that is my plan! *blows kiss*

reply from: sweet

Yes!
George Takei (Sulu from Star Trek) is marrying his partner Brad Altman!!!
YAY!
Walter Keonig (Chekov) as best man and Nichelle Nichols (Uhura) as matron of honour!
OMG BIG GAY STAR TREK WEDDING!!!
this cant be serious.

reply from: sweet

Get a mac so I can have another reason to dislike you.oh, until then...my old computer is fixed! *smiles*

reply from: yoda

LOL -that is my plan! *blows kiss*
There's nothing at all wrong with Macs. They're very reliable computers, and very well suited to people who aren't into becoming computer geeks.

reply from: sweet

this cant be serious.
Why wouldn't it be?
George has long been a gay spokesperson - and an all around great guy.
Aren't you happy for him?i'd rather he be with a woman.

reply from: sweet

I'm teaching kids about global warming
And other environmental issues.what grade? i don't know anything about that myself.

reply from: sweet

no one is always happy...not even "gays." there are happy and sad times with everyone - right? this has nothing to do with happiness anyway. i was happy being a thief.

reply from: sweet

Reminder: you choose to love...even a stranger. love is action (caring/sharing/giving, etc.)

reply from: sweet

Reminder: marriage is between a man and woman. "gay" means choosing to have sex with the same sex. being happy is a choice also...you can be a woman who was raised with a single mother, had no money nor food and whose mother was murdered (this describes me) - you can choose to wallow in sadness - or choose to be happy (this describes me) with what you currently have (be it health/wealth/family...)

reply from: sweet

another reminder:
forgiveness is medicine for the forgiver and the forgiven.

reply from: Draiocht

Actually, marriage has been around since long before your religion and handfastings were a form of marriage that often took place between a variety of genders, not just male+female. Christians took from other cultural/religious ideals rather than practice any originality and they raped those traditions and twisted them to suit their purpose. A modern gay couple taking vows for the sake of love is far more pure and rooted in the original intent behind such a union than the Christian value of marrying for the sole purpose of breeding.
Two people that form a partnership out of love are more pure than two people that come together just because they want to settle and use each others bodies as breeding tools.

reply from: sweet

men who choose to have sex with men are no different than a thief who chooses to steal from walmart and say he did it because he 'loves' his grandma and wanted to get her a gift. what kind of gift would that be? if we want to blame our actions on Love...why not the safe/caring/giving/
protecting actions?

reply from: KaylieBee

Lol, stealing from wal-mart.

reply from: KaylieBee

Actually, the catholic church seems to think marriage only counts between those who can reproduce.
see the case where the church refused to marry a man who was disabled in such a way that he could no longer 'get it up'.

reply from: sweet

since the title of this thread is apologies, why don't you apologize already to someone...for example, the innocent babies that you choose to promote the death of.

reply from: KaylieBee

nah, I don't feel like it.

reply from: BossMomma

I dunno, do you think something with only a speck of a brain and no intelligence can forgive?

reply from: scopia1982

My understanding now is that the current teaching is that as long they are open to the prospect of adoption they will marry them in the church. Now if a person is infertile but not impotent they can still be married in the church as wel.

reply from: yoda

If you don't kill them, they can eventually forgive you, yes.

reply from: BossMomma

If you don't kill them, they can eventually forgive you, yes.
We are talking about present tense, a fetus has no capacity to forgive, condemn, love, hate etc. etc.

reply from: yoda

No, YOU are talking about the present tense, as if it was all there is, as if there is NO FUTURE.....
ALL of us are created that way, we ALL have to go through the stages of development..... and if we AREN'T KILLED and don't die naturally, we ALL become walking, talking children, and then adults.......
But you want to allow the killing of babies because of the particular stage of development they happen to be in at the PRESENT time?
Oh my, what a feeble excuse to KILL....

reply from: sweet

??i love my sisters...but i don't have sex with them! you might have love confused with lust. please don't call men having sex with men love. you might be deceiving yourself...but not everyone.

reply from: BossMomma

A fetus in future tense is a newborn which becomes an infant, toddler and so on. A child really doesn't gain that mental capacity until later, such as two or three. If a fetus is aborted, there is no capacity to forgive, if it is brought to term and born, there is nothing to forgive.

reply from: yoda

SAY WHAT??????
How about killing a person who is under a general anesthetic, like in capital punishment by lethal injection?
Is there "nothing to forgive" because they are unconscious at the time of death?
What kind of moral values do you have, anyway?

reply from: scopia1982

SAY WHAT??????
How about killing a person who is under a general anesthetic, like in capital punishment by lethal injection?
Is there "nothing to forgive" because they are unconscious at the time of death?
What kind of moral values do you have, anyway?
Obviously Yoda, she has none. I have never "met" someone full of such hate and lack of compassion. Almost sociopathical.

reply from: KaylieBee

How does not responding for a few hours (this is the Internet, remember) equal not having an answer?

reply from: scopia1982

??i love my sisters...but i don't have sex with them! you might have love confused with lust. please don't call men having sex with men love. you might be deceiving yourself...but not everyone.
You're a fruitcake.
ROMANTIC love with the same sex.
You are the one who is confused.
Yes, men having sex with men can be love.
YOU are deceiving YOURSELF that gay people don't love in exactly the same way as hetero people.
Once again...
Romantic love.
Not 'lust '.
I may not agree with this lifestyle, but I really dont care what consenting adults that love each other do in the privacy of their own homes. Im not in favor of gay marriage, but thats a states rights issue, if the people of a state that I dont live in vote in favor of it, I dont care it doesnt affect me.

reply from: sweet

yeah...and 'consenting adults' kill there children in privacy...i care!

reply from: scopia1982

yeah...and 'consenting adults' kill there children in privacy...i care!
You are comparing apples and oranges. Sex between 2 consenting adults is not the same as murdering children. While I respect your view on the issue of homosexuality what goes on in their bedrooms is none of your business just like what goes on with me and my husband is none of my neighbors.

reply from: sweet

i understand your point. i just feel that it is our business because some wicked things go on in 'privacy'. i sat back for a while and said abortion is none of my business because these are 'consenting adults' and it's is 'behind closed doors.' not so now.

reply from: scopia1982

I think we can agree to disagree amicably on the issue of consensual same sex relations. I can understand being concerned with child molestation, rape, beastialty, and abortion because at least one of the partied involved are not giving their or cant consent. I appreciate your civility in conveying your difference of opinion.

reply from: BossMomma

SAY WHAT??????
How about killing a person who is under a general anesthetic, like in capital punishment by lethal injection?
Is there "nothing to forgive" because they are unconscious at the time of death?
What kind of moral values do you have, anyway?
Logical morals, a born person under general anesthesia has the right to live. Not so with the fetus. Now tell me, does being this dense come naturally to you or do you have to work at it?

reply from: yoda

What is "logical" about saying that ONLY a born person has "the right to live"?
Are you stuck in the "legal mode", by some chance? Are you ignoring the idea that there might be a moral right to life for innocent human beings?
Or are you just getting your jollies by throwing all the nasty comments you can think of?

reply from: BossMomma

What is "logical" about saying that ONLY a born person has "the right to live"?
Are you stuck in the "legal mode", by some chance? Are you ignoring the idea that there might be a moral right to life for innocent human beings?
Or are you just getting your jollies by throwing all the nasty comments you can think of?
Technically, no one has a moral right to life. People die everyday, disease, famine, war, even accidents at which no harm was intended (falling asleep behind the wheel, leaving a child in a hot car because you forgot about the kid etc.) Persons have a legal right to life, liberty and, property which cannot be removed without due process, hence why we have a charge called involuntary manslaughter, or killing without intent to do so.
That is why I do not argue with morals. Good and innocent people die all the time, at the age of 9 I lost my sunday school teacher to cancer. She was a good woman, an innocent woman who died a most horrible and slow death, where was her moral right to live?

reply from: sweet

for those that are confused about men sleeping with men...my brothers love each other, but they don't have sex with each other...why do pro homosexuals try to combine the two?
for those confused about abortion...a baby is a baby as soon as the woman becomes pregnant...if you kill the baby any time, it is murder.

reply from: sweet

some say well it's ok to murder the baby if the mother is ill...it's ok to murder the baby to save the mother...it's ok to murder the baby if his dad's a rapist...it's ok to murder the baby if his dad's a pedophile... it's ok to murder the baby if it is deformed...it's ok to murder the baby if it's not wanted...it's NOT ok.

reply from: yoda

There is nothing "technical" about morality, or a moral right to life. You either respect other human being's moral rights, or you do not.
Which is a total diversion. "Moral right to life" means a moral right not to be intentionally, electively killed, and I'm quite sure you know that.

reply from: BossMomma

SAY WHAT??????
How about killing a person who is under a general anesthetic, like in capital punishment by lethal injection?
Is there "nothing to forgive" because they are unconscious at the time of death?
What kind of moral values do you have, anyway?
Obviously Yoda, she has none. I have never "met" someone full of such hate and lack of compassion. Almost sociopathical.
So because my morals do not agree with yours I'm a hateful incompassionate sociopath? It looks more like you're a judgemental hatemonger.

reply from: yoda

No, because you make intemperate, unprovoked profane personal attacks on other posters.

reply from: BossMomma

No, because you make intemperate, unprovoked profane personal attacks on other posters.
On certain posters who make a past time of provoking and attacking me.

reply from: KaylieBee

She probably has never really been in love, if she considers love a choice.

reply from: sweet

There are many of us who are blessed to have brothers and sisters and mothers and fathers and even good friends...i have been taught to love them all...(obviously i can choose not to do so)...in the same way i have been taught not to have sex with the same sex...my choice has been to follow this teaching...there are many of us who choose to follow this teaching...though we may be bashed/mocked/persecuted for following these teachings, we must continue to do so...may we endure and be encouraged.

reply from: sweet

can someone please explain 'being in love?'

reply from: KaylieBee

Point proven.
Being in love. Hm. You're unable to stop thinking of that person, no matter how hard you try. Just holding them close to you feels amazing, you want to hang onto every word they say. you've studied every line of their face, you know/want to know every bit of them. You never want to be away from them. You imagine every single moment of your future as being with them, growing with them, changing with them.

reply from: sweet

familiar description. thanks. this is what 2 men claim to sometimes feel? i guess some things aren't meant for me to understand...but i just don't how the same sex could ever 'be in love'...it seems to be just lust for them...i don't think i want to understand the same sex having sex...i have a few gay friends and i still love them, but not their choice to have sex with the same sex.

reply from: KaylieBee

I don't understand you. Why is it that if a couple takes their relationship to a sexual relationship, that's all it's about?
I'm sure your relationship with your husband is about more than sex. I hope so for both your sakes, at least.

reply from: sweet

i do have friends who are 'gay.' though i'm against it, i love them anyway...that's the important thing here...and i don't constantly throw my
differing views in their faces.

reply from: KaylieBee

Do they know how you feel?

reply from: sweet

yes, but i don't constantly throw my
differing views in their faces.

reply from: KaylieBee

And they chose to stay friends with them who thinks their relationships are disgusting, and that they can't really love, and that it's all a 'choice'?

reply from: sweet

Kaylie, even though you put words in my mouth--i see even you as a precious creation of God and you deserved to be loved. *smiles*

reply from: KaylieBee

I'm not putting words in your mouth, I'm paraphrasing statements you have made. You called homosexuals evil people. Youa re disgusted by homosexual acts.

reply from: sweet

well this is a new statement: you deserve to be loved. *smiles*

reply from: sweet

well this is a new statement: you deserve to be loved. *smiles*
That statement does not erase your bigotry towards homosexuals.
Oh, and the whole 'I have homosexual friends' thing is a bit old.
I'll bet you've said 'I have a transsexual friend' to people and have been referring to me.
I don't believe for a second that you have a genuine, close relationship with any homosexual people.i have who i consider to be my 'brother' though we don't have the same biological parents--he was heterosexual--then muslim--then 'gay' with a trans mate--then straight--then 'Christian'--then 'gay' again--i stood by him and held him close and dear through it all--his 'trans mate' is a dear friend of mine also--i chose to look beyond his physical differences because he was clearly human with a heart of gold...they are both aware of where i stand--but they know that i'm not the ultimate 'judge'--i've been to gay clubs as well as the fashion contests and talent shows--where my trans friend happened to be the usual winner--thank you very much--i didn't agree with it all--but i focus on the heart and good qualities. we all just focus on the beautiful human unique qualities that we each have...this is the same with my many other 'gay' friends...i had a 'gay' boss at my old job--he interviewed me and hired me 'on the spot' knowing i am a married 'hetero'. he didn't waste time in telling me he was 'gay' with a live in boyfriend, etc--we laughed, joked, and enjoyed working together...what's important is every human deserves to be loved--although some may reject it.

reply from: sweet

it seems to me that it's best to focus on good qualities in people because we all have flaws.

reply from: sweet

*smiles*
goodnight everyone. have sweet dreams and a beautiful day tomorrow!

reply from: GodsLaw4Us2Live

it seems to me that it's best to focus on good qualities in people because we all have flaws.
Here are some of the "flaws":
http://americansfortruth.com/news/tolerance-gone-wild-in-san-francisco-as-cops-stand-by-amidst-folsom-street-fairs-public-perversions-and-widespread-nudity.html
Warning: Folsom Street Fair, San Francisco Activities, Not appropriate for children

reply from: GodsLaw4Us2Live

it seems to me that it's best to focus on good qualities in people because we all have flaws.
Here are some of the "flaws":
http://americansfortruth.com/news/tolerance-gone-wild-in-san-francisco-as-cops-stand-by-amidst-folsom-street-fairs-public-perversions-and-widespread-nudity.html
Warning: Folsom Street Fair, San Francisco Activities, Not appropriate for children
I do not have a genuine close relationship with anyone engaging in homosexuality; neither do I desire to have any such "relationships". This stuff is perverse, and it is a public display, as they wish it to be (out of the closet, shame comes forth, but instead of shame, loud and proud are the vile abominations.)
Actually, CP, a more looming problem is the President of Iran. He says Israel is a walking corpse that soon will face annihilation. I take his Hitler like statements seriously. Islam is hitting hard in Islamabad (Marriott Hotel) and the capital of Somalia right now. Russia threatens to arm Iran. Radical Islamic confrontation and war is now a virtually non-stop item on the news. The President of Iran MUST be stopped. The world totters on the edge of WW III and another Jewish Holocaust.

reply from: Cecilia

Such a strange display...people who speak out so strongly against discrimination of the fetus heavily support discrimination of adults.
The concept of abortion being discrimination against a fetus gives me pause and alot to think about in my views towards abortion. It's curious that it doesn't go both ways.

reply from: KaylieBee

That's infatuation, babe. Love is when you just want the other to be happy, even at your own expense...Infatuation is mostly about what you want, and when you don't get it, it often turns into something ugly. True love is when they tell you to get lost, and you sincerely hope they will be happy as a result of their choice rather than that they will be miserable without you. You just think you know what "love" is...You obviously don't.
Aren't you divorced?

reply from: GodsLaw4Us2Live

That was HOT.
Got any more?
I especially liked this "Man performs oral sodomy".
LOLOLOLOL!
"Oral sodomy".
LAWL!
Ummm, was that "pornographic?" And provided by Christians, who covered the event? (A single eyebrow ominously raised while pondering the irony...)
I don't know how the cameramen could stomach taking the pictures. These are pictures taken out on Folsom street during the middle of the day. Yes, they are pornography; actual mutual masturbation and sodomy was engaged in right in the street under the sun and someone took photos of it. The images we see have a black ink blot over the actual copulating organs.

reply from: scopia1982

"That's infatuation, babe. Love is when you just want the other to be happy, even at your own expense...Infatuation is mostly about what you want, and when you don't get it, it often turns into something ugly. True love is when they tell you to get lost, and you sincerely hope they will be happy as a result of their choice rather than that they will be miserable without you. You just think you know what "love" is...You obviously don't."
KB is only 17. At 17 that is exactly how I viewed love. Teenagers are not mature enough to know what real lasting love is. My sister is 18 and falls in "love" with a different guy everytime I see her.

reply from: GodsLaw4Us2Live

I have taken appropriate action. All of our kids are being homeschooled this year. We first began thinking of this under Clinton's secretarial sexcapes. Our society's tolerance of this filthy disgusting behavior has gone too far. I have been greatly pleased by the tremendous wealth of homeschool materials available. A person can get a much better education at home.

reply from: scopia1982

CP my mom is 45 and divorced. Even she gets confused between puppy love and real love.

reply from: Cecilia

GodsLaw4Us2Live, and sweet, how do you reconcile your willfull discrimination against homosexuals when you adamantly oppose the same for fetuses?
And might I add that homosexuality is not all about the sexual act any more than heterosexuality is.

reply from: GodsLaw4Us2Live

Homosexuality is about engaging in homosexual acts. A man can have lots of friends. Bowling, softball, fishing buds, etc. You don't have to be hopping into bed and ruining your feces removal system. The fact is, homosexuality is against the Law and those who practice such things shall die eternally.
While indecent perverse acts are illegal, life or birth is not illegal (Well, life is to be removed from homicidal killers). Killing the baby is the unLawful act.
The Bible (modern paraphrase type):
You shall not murder.
You shall not commit sexual acts with one of your own gender.
The matter is settled by the Bible. Killing kids is illegal and homosexual acts are illegal.

reply from: Cecilia

Homosexuality is about engaging in homosexual acts. A man can have lots of friends. Bowling, softball, fishing buds, etc. You don't have to be hopping into bed and ruining your feces removal system. The fact is, homosexuality is against the Law and those who practice such things shall die eternally.
While indecent perverse acts are illegal, life or birth is not illegal (Well, life is to be removed from homicidal killers). Killing the baby is the unLawful act.
The Bible (modern paraphrase type):
You shall not murder.
You shall not commit sexual acts with one of your own gender.
The matter is settled by the Bible. Killing kids is illegal and homosexual acts are illegal.
Thank you for your answer.
You are wrong, however. Homosexuality is about love, and bigots like yourself turn it into an issue about sodomy.
One more example of a Christian who wants tolerance, but only of Christian values.

reply from: sweet

I have taken appropriate action. All of our kids are being homeschooled this year. We first began thinking of this under Clinton's secretarial sexcapes. Our society's tolerance of this filthy disgusting behavior has gone too far. I have been greatly pleased by the tremendous wealth of homeschool materials available. A person can get a much better education at home.i agree. these public schools are scary.

reply from: sweet

? are you for men having sex with men?...if so, that's you...i'm not for it...at the same time, i wouldn't say you're discriminating against heterosexuals. thanks for your insight.

reply from: sweet

Homosexuality is about engaging in homosexual acts. A man can have lots of friends. Bowling, softball, fishing buds, etc. You don't have to be hopping into bed and ruining your feces removal system. The fact is, homosexuality is against the Law and those who practice such things shall die eternally.
While indecent perverse acts are illegal, life or birth is not illegal (Well, life is to be removed from homicidal killers). Killing the baby is the unLawful act.
The Bible (modern paraphrase type):
You shall not murder.
You shall not commit sexual acts with one of your own gender.
The matter is settled by the Bible. Killing kids is illegal and homosexual acts are illegal.exactly...though some may attack you for your knowledge of this. it is really sad how people are offended by the Bible.

reply from: sweet

Question: have you told anyone you love them today?

reply from: Cecilia

? are you for men having sex with men?...if so, that's you...i'm not for it...at the same time, i wouldn't say you're discriminating against heterosexuals. thanks for your insight.
Like I already said, it's not about sex.
One dimensional thinking.

reply from: KaylieBee

i agree. these public schools are scary.
What is scary about public school? A girl I know who came to my school from homeschool is scary she believed that a girl who was mad at another managed to make the others brain melt with a 'spell', lol.

reply from: KaylieBee

I've been told many times today.
And I'm not a homophobe. =D

reply from: sweet

honest responses please: is it fair to say that anyone who is against 'homophobes' are homophobe-phobes and any one against the Bible are Bible-phobes and anyone against 'Christians' are Christian-phobes and anyone against thieves are thief-phobes? it seems the name-calling is pointless...however, indulge.

reply from: sweet

at the end of the day today, let's ask ourselves...what have i accomplished? did i thank someone today...did i hug someone today...did i give something to someone in need today? did i make someone smile today?*smiles*

reply from: KaylieBee

I love my boyfriend even more than I did two years ago. I doubt it's 'puppy love'. Just because it's rare to get it right the first time doesn't mean it's impossible. I really do love him.

reply from: KaylieBee

Yeah man, and people who against racism are totally bigoted against racists!

reply from: sweet

there are many on this forum that are awesome. it's good to know that people have a heart--keep up the work on letting the world know that abortion is wrong! *smiles*

reply from: sweet

good news:
pro-life is making progress! keep up the hard work!

reply from: KaylieBee

You know, if sweet is a troll, she's really great at it.

reply from: sweet

Good news announcement:
those that are speaking up for the innocent unborn who can't speak for themselves are doing an awesome job!

reply from: sweet

now i remember why i was always told 'if i don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all'--you are God's creation vexy!!

reply from: sweet

there is obviously much evil and hateful, vicious attacking going on--SATAN I REBUKE YOU IN THE NAME OF JESUS--YOU HAVE NO PLACE HERE--YOU ARE UNWELCOMED!

reply from: Cecilia

And now if you will get your checkbooks out and pledge one hundred dollars to this evangelist... (laugh)

reply from: sweet

Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life! Jesus died even for YOU CECILIA! as much as you hate us--you are still God's creation also--he made you a unique individual!

reply from: sweet

And now if you will get your checkbooks out and pledge one hundred dollars to this evangelist... (laugh)God created you!

reply from: sweet

may our Heavenly Father continue to guide us and shield us from evil as we continue this journey fighting for what's right.

reply from: sweet

i'm not sure what ad nauseum means...but obviously people still post on this--so do i. have a wonderful day! *smiles*

reply from: sweet

many people want 'prolifers' to go away--if we don't stand up, who will? someone stood up for me--that's why i'm here and my family--and i'm thankful for that.

reply from: sweet

It might interest you to know that the internet is loaded with more information than you could possibly hope to process in your lifetime, and that there is no excuse for any person with internet access to continue in ignorance on any subject. There's a thing called a "search engine" (Google is very popular) that allows you to easily access the desired information. Let me know if I can be of further assistance.
*grimace*thanks. i'll look that up as well as 'grimace.' *smiles*

reply from: sweet

Some of us just get tired of hearing the constant idiotic drivel... Don't flatter yourself.
Why do I even bother? It's like talking to a wood chip...'drivel'---let me look that up...'flatter'--let me re-look that up. thanks (i'm learning new vocab)

reply from: mcgowan

i haven't read the complete thread but IMO it's ungracious not to accept someone's apology when offered.
there seem to be a lot of unresolved anger issues and hostility among particpants on this board.

reply from: mcgowan

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that's a ridiculous comparison.
Sweet was apologising if the candid expression of her views offended anyone.


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