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by: terry

Be sure and stop by Prolifeamerica.com front page and check out the Margaret Sanger interview with Mike Wallace from 1957.
Also, there is a really exciting "Coming Soon" announced there as well. Let me know what you think.
Terry

reply from: faithman

Great stuff!!! folks need to know where planned parenthood comes from.

reply from: GodsLaw4Us2Live

I watched the entire interview. Some things that stuck out:
- She said, "The greatest sin is bringing children into the world."
- She did not believe the world could sustain another 1/3 increase in world population (something that has surely happened in the last half century).
- She believed many different religions dwelled on the Divine
- She was very appreciative of a new researcher showing that "homosexuals" were not perverse, they were simply born that way
There were other overtones in the interview suggesting that she did not support traditional marriage for all people (witness her own 'second marriage') and that because of human nature the government needed to make abortion and birth control necessary (hinting at promiscuity). However, she denied that she had made made certain statements attributed to her regarding some of these matters.
I was amazed at how she laughed, mocked and pooh-poohed the idea that we could increase agricultural production to feed the masses. This was back in 1957. Obviously, we had the capability to increase production several-fold.

reply from: AshMarie88

Thank God she's in the ground. She was a witch...

reply from: Banned Member

http://www.time.com/time/time100/leaders/profile/sanger.html
periodical of the culture of death and dictatorship of moral relativism
The movement she started will grow to be, a hundred years from now, the most influential of all time," predicted futurist and historian H.G. Wells in 1931. "When the history of our civilization is written, it will be a biological history, and Margaret Sanger will be its heroine."
Though this prophecy of nearly 70 years ago credited one woman with the power that actually came from a wide and deep movement of women, no one person deserves it more. Now that reproductive freedom is becoming accepted and conservative groups are fighting to maintain control over women's bodies as the means of reproduction, Sanger's revolution may be even more controversial than during her 50-year career of national and international battles. Her experience can teach us many lessons.
She taught us, first, to look at the world as if women mattered. Born into an Irish working-class family, Margaret witnessed her mother's slow death, worn out after 18 pregnancies and 11 live births. While working as a practical nurse and midwife in the poorest neighborhoods of New York City in the years before World War I, she saw women deprived of their health, sexuality and ability to care for children already born. Contraceptive information was so suppressed by clergy-influenced, physician-accepted laws that it was a criminal offense to send it through the mail. Yet the educated had access to such information and could use subterfuge to buy "French" products, which were really condoms and other barrier methods, and "feminine hygiene" products, which were really spermicides.
It was this injustice that inspired Sanger to defy church and state. In a series of articles called "What Every Girl Should Know," then in her own newspaper The Woman Rebel and finally through neighborhood clinics that dispensed woman-controlled forms of birth control (a phrase she coined), Sanger put information and power into the hands of women.
While in Europe for a year to avoid severe criminal penalties, partly due to her political radicalism, partly for violating postal obscenity laws, she learned more about contraception, the politics of sexuality and the commonality of women's experience. Her case was dismissed after her return to the States. Sanger continued to push legal and social boundaries by initiating sex counseling, founding the American Birth Control League (which became, in 1942, the Planned Parenthood Federation of America) and organizing the first international population conference. Eventually her work would extend as far as Japan and India, where organizations she helped start still flourish.
Sanger was past 80 when she saw the first marketing of a contraceptive pill, which she had helped develop. But legal change was slow. It took until 1965, a year before her death, for the Supreme Court to strike down a Connecticut law that prohibited the use of contraception, even by married couples. Extended to unmarried couples only in 1972, this constitutionally guaranteed right to privacy would become as important to women's equality as the vote. In 1973 the right to privacy was extended to the abortion decision of a woman and her physician, thus making abortion a safe and legal alternative - unlike the $5 illegal butcheries of Sanger's day.
One can imagine Sanger's response to the current anti-choice lobby and congressional leadership that opposes abortion, sex education in schools, and federally funded contraceptive programs that would make abortion less necessary; that supports ownership of young women's bodies through parental-consent laws; that limits poor women's choices by denying Medicaid funding; and that holds hostage the entire U.S. billion-dollar debt to the United Nations in the hope of attaching an antiabortion rider. As in her day, the question seems to be less about what gets decided than who has the power to make the decision.
One can also imagine her response to pro-life rhetoric being used to justify an average of one clinic bombing or arson per month - sometimes the same clinics Sanger helped found - and the murder of six clinic staff members, the attempted murder of 15 others, and assault and battery against 104 more. In each case, the justification is that potential fetal life is more important than a living woman's health or freedom.
What are mistakes in our era that parallel those of Sanger's? There is still an effort to distort her goal of giving women control over their bodies by attributing such quotes to Sanger as "More children from the fit, less from the unfit - that is the chief issue of birth control." Sanger didn't say those words; in fact, she condemned them as a eugenicist argument for "cradle competition." To her, poor mental development was largely the result of poverty, overpopulation and the lack of attention to children. She correctly foresaw racism as the nation's major challenge, conducted surveys that countered stereotypes regarding the black community and birth control, and established clinics in the rural South with the help of such African-American leaders as W.E.B. Du Bois and Mary McLeod Bethune.
Nonetheless, expediency caused Sanger to distance herself from her radical past; for instance, she used soft phrases such as "family planning" instead of her original, more pointed argument that the poor were being manipulated into producing an endless supply of cheap labor. She also adopted the mainstream eugenics language of the day, partly as a tactic, since many eugenicists opposed birth control on the grounds that the educated would use it more. Though her own work was directed toward voluntary birth control and public health programs, her use of eugenics language probably helped justify sterilization abuse. Her misjudgments should cause us to wonder what parallel errors we are making now and to question any tactics that fail to embody the ends we hope to achieve.
Sanger led by example. Her brave and joyous life included fulfilling work, three children, two husbands, many lovers and an international network of friends and colleagues. She was charismatic and sometimes quixotic, but she never abandoned her focus on women's freedom and its larger implications for social justice (an inspiration that continues through Ellen Chesler's excellent biography, Woman of Valor: Margaret Sanger and the Birth Control Movement in America). Indeed, she lived as if she and everyone else had the right to control her or his own life. By word and deed, she pioneered the most radical, humane and transforming political movement of the century.

reply from: ChristianLott2

I think that interview was a waste of time. What was she saying about caliche???
However I look forward to those books and newsletters becoming available
Thanks!

reply from: ProInformed

Unlike real feminists like Susan B. Amthony, she didn't really believe females were equal to males; she apparently envied the way some males behaved in a sexually promiscuous and irresponsible manner and blamed normal healthy female biology and nurturing of children for the oppression of women. So she hope dbirht control could allow females to become just as promiscuous and uncaring as those sorts of males. Not exactly a sane, compassionate solution to the problems... and definitely not feminist!

reply from: LolitaOlivia

She was born in 1879. Pretty much all white people from that generation were a bit racist. It's completely unfair to judge her by today's standards. A lot of other historical figures like Henry Ford and Walt Disney held the same opinions, but you aren't condemning them, are you?

reply from: sander

Henry Ford and Walt Disney didn't start the biggest death mills on earth.
Ford was a bigot, so don't own any Fords and stay away from Disneyland.
And it's COMPLETELY fair to judge that murderous poor excuse for a woman, anyone who thinks children are human weeds should be judged harshly forever.

reply from: LolitaOlivia

Henry Ford and Walt Disney didn't start the biggest death mills on earth.
Ford was a bigot, so don't own any Fords and stay away from Disneyland.
And it's COMPLETELY fair to judge that murderous poor excuse for a woman, anyone who thinks children are human weeds should be judged harshly forever.
See, it all comes back to her encouraging women to only have children they want.

reply from: sander

No, can't you read?
It comes down to she thought children were human weeds and blacks were inferior. History has all ready judged her, you're too late.
She was a murderer, a bigot and beyond the scope of reason.

reply from: LolitaOlivia

Unwanted children can be like weeds. It's a crass metaphor, no doubt, but kind of true. And again about the racism thing, it was the common belief for white Americans of her generation. Many other historical figures held the same opinion. As the world progressed, she did revise her opinions in that area.

reply from: sander

Make all the pathetic excuses you want, this woman was not normal, she was sick in heart and sick of soul.
And you're just as bad if you think any human being is a weed, wanted or not.
So, go play out in the street now....there's no reasoning with people who think like you and your bud, Sanger.

reply from: LolitaOlivia

But what if I got hit by a car! You're not very pro-life, are you sandy?

reply from: sander

You'd have a better chance at surviving then someone bigger than you, having you cornered and coming at you with pilars.
Run, lowly, run.

reply from: LolitaOlivia

You'd have a better chance at surviving then someone bigger than you, having you cornered and coming at you with pilars.
Run, lowly, run.
You're mean, sandy.

reply from: jujujellybean

yah well it's true lolita, it really is. I'm not being mean or anything...but that's true. Why do you think that's mean? It's true, you know...

reply from: Onlymoronssupportabortion

If she were the mother of the pro-LIFE movement pro-"choicers" would be screaming this into our faces.

reply from: sheri

That woman was nasty!
"There was no opposition from the church" not in the begining, she said that is how we got in this mess.
most of the interview dealt with her beliefs as opposed to the catholic church, you could really sense the hate she had for the church.
very nasty, yet so convincing! the words and phrases all meant to sooth and reasure, very slick.

reply from: galen

can you say ' cult of personality'? .... kind like OBAMA...

reply from: ChristianLott2

You'd have a better chance at surviving then someone bigger than you, having you cornered and coming at you with pliars.
Run, lowly, run.
that brought back to me a nightmare i had last week. there were women all strapped down to these gurneys. they were all pregnant. this was to be a mass mechanical abortion. they were all situated in front of these canulas with their legs open. in case something went wrong they had used forceps inserted into their spinal cords to cut off feeling to their brains.
this lady gave the signal, like for a firing line and the canulas stabbed forward. it turned out to be hopelessly ineffective because all the women started screaming and when the canulas came out the babies fell out mutilated and crawling up to their mothers, holding on to them crying. theres blood all over and this one baby i saw had a huge gash in his little arm and was trying to hold onto his mothers arm while all the other kids were grabbing for their mothers to save them.
i guess they were going to grab those babies and finish murdering them but i woke up.
i hate you proaborts!

reply from: LolitaOlivia

Women who get abortions aren't "strapped down" it's consensual and they ask the doctor to do it. And if it's alive when it comes out, he's doing it wrong. And even if they were full term, new born babies can't crawl or hold hands. I don't think the women would necessarily want to hold hands with a bloody aborted fetus anyway...

reply from: sander

Did you MISS the part where he said this was a dream?
Gads you're dense.

reply from: LolitaOlivia

Yes, but it's an inaccurate dream. Is that how you guys really see abortion in your *****ed-up little heads?

reply from: sander

You would know about blankey heads....you've got a dense enough one on your shoulders.
Who the heck said dreams had to be accurate? You're still dense as a door knob.

reply from: yoda

I think the proper phraseology is "dumber than a sack of doorknobs".

reply from: sander

I think the proper phraseology is "dumber than a sack of doorknobs".
Oh, I think you're giving her entirely too much credit! She can't possibly be smarter than one door knob!
She's actually so dumb, I think the title of the dumbest dumb proabort must now be relinquished by Smufy.

reply from: yoda

You're really big on stereotyping from one example, aren't you?

reply from: sheri

What a sad dream, I pray the pain of it empowers you to do more to stop abortion, I know it spured me.

reply from: ChristianLott2

well, it got me on this board again. i wasn't going to mention it.
forceps are usually not inserted into the spinal cord but, like i said, it's a dream a nightmare.
i thought the internet would change things. i thought once people saw a human, no matter how small, all torn apart like that their heart would realize the truth. it's obvious there's no such thing as a conscience. just like the nazis did to the jews not even thirty years later we decided to do it to our own babies. why are people so selfish and stupid? i can forgive the random acts of violence from emotion or from the deranged - but this is systematic.
'hearts and minds'? where? they're all heartless and mindless - that's the problem.
there will be no change in the supreme court. the richest men alive are all pro aborts.
face it people - might makes right in this world. communism, fascism, democracy.. it's all the same. completely pointless. small? weak? worthless.

reply from: sheri

How do we fight this?

reply from: yoda

Welcome to the real world.
There have been experiments in the past that demonstrated exactly what you are talking about clearly. It has been shown that some ordinary people off the street are capable of killing complete strangers in the name of "research".
But there are exceptions. There are some people with an active, functioning conscience. Those are the people we need to reach out to.

reply from: nancyu

You'd have a better chance at surviving then someone bigger than you, having you cornered and coming at you with pliars.
Run, lowly, run.
that brought back to me a nightmare i had last week. there were women all strapped down to these gurneys. they were all pregnant. this was to be a mass mechanical abortion. they were all situated in front of these canulas with their legs open. in case something went wrong they had used forceps inserted into their spinal cords to cut off feeling to their brains.
this lady gave the signal, like for a firing line and the canulas stabbed forward. it turned out to be hopelessly ineffective because all the women started screaming and when the canulas came out the babies fell out mutilated and crawling up to their mothers, holding on to them crying. theres blood all over and this one baby i saw had a huge gash in his little arm and was trying to hold onto his mothers arm while all the other kids were grabbing for their mothers to save them.
i guess they were going to grab those babies and finish murdering them but i woke up.
i hate you proaborts!
So much for being a christian.
I'm sure some false Christians will jump on you Christianlot for feeling this way, as if we are able to control such feelings. A feeling of hatred toward pro aborts is a normal reaction to such horrendously hateful people.
We are commanded to love thy neighbor as thyself. Well, if we were so devoid of conscience that we could condone abortion, we would hate ourselves. So I don't see that we are breaking any commandments. Plus these people are not my neighbors, thank God, nor are they people, they are "clumps of tissue" in my opinion.
If the personhood of the unborn is a matter of opinion, then so is the personhood of pro aborts.

reply from: nancyu

Some of the laws do agree with me, and the ones that don't may soon change, so be *thankful* while you can.

reply from: ChristianLott2

there are a few people on this board who need to learn to quote.
quote on the exact piece you're commenting on, please. me and probably quite a few others hate having to scroll through a bunch of garbage that isn't even being referenced. thanks!

reply from: ChristianLott2

So much for being a christian.
I'm sure some false Christians will jump on you Christianlot for feeling this way, as if we are able to control such feelings. A feeling of hatred toward pro aborts is a normal reaction to such horrendously hateful people.
Honestly!
God needs us to hate evil. I don't hate xenatiger because she's a person, I hate the evil she represents. As soon as the pro aborts stop being pro aborts there will be nothing left to hate.
This is the exact kind of thing people like xenatiger and other pro aborts and false christians believe about christianity.
For instance, Jesus said:
This does not mean to never judge another person. Obviously it means if you plan on being the judge of another just be darn sure you're not guilty of the same crime as they!

reply from: ChristianLott2

I agree, but that still doesn't get you off the hook.

reply from: yoda

That's perfectly logical, you're just too young to understand it.
You don't need to be drinking while you're driving or handling a gun. Grow up first.

reply from: faithman

That's perfectly logical, you're just too young to understand it.
You don't need to be drinking while you're driving or handling a gun. Grow up first.
many states lowered the drinking age to 18 for a while. Drunk driving, and drunk related driving deaths went up so bad that they but it back up to 21. 18 year olds tend to think the are bullit proof enough without getting drunk.

reply from: faithman

Most in the netherlands toodle around on bicycles. A bicycle crash causes far less damage than 2 tons of car at 50 plus MPH. It is not a fair comparison at all.

reply from: faithman

Drinking age is 18 here.
We're doing just fine.
(What really ticked me off was that they lowered the drinking age the night of my 21st birthday party. I felt pretty ripped off).
Inmy home state of Texas, they lowered the age to 18 the year I turned 18. Then they upped it again to 21 the year I turned 21. A real boon in my less sactified days.

reply from: yoda

I second that motion. Some posters are spamming the forum with irrelevant quotes, and the enormous spaces between them.

reply from: MC3

We started this thread to let you guys know about the television interview we found with Margaret Sanger. Somehow, in an amazingly short time, it morphed into a discussion about the claimed merits of the legal drinking age in New Zealand and the Netherlands.
Did I miss something here?

reply from: yoda

Well, I'm partly to blame for that...... I was reacting to xen's tag line... and then it just spread.... it's hard to ignore those really dumb tag lines, but I'll try harder.

reply from: faithman

Just the borthead tactic of deflection. Sorry I fell for it.

reply from: MC3

I'm not criticizing anyone over this. You guys are free to discuss whatever you want. I was just astonished at how far off subject this thread had wandered and how quickly it had done so.
Anyway, I would really like to hear what all of you thought about the Sanger interview. I also encourage each of you to have every pro-lifer you know to watch it and give us their thoughts on it as well.
In my opinion, Margaret Sanger came off as a sad, nasty and bitter old woman. Interestingly, over the years, I have observed that these same characteristics are found in an alarmingly high percentage of our enemies. In fact, you can even see it in the abortion defenders who come to this forum. Apparently, killing helpless babies, degrading troubled women and destroying the moral foundations of society is not the secret formula for a life of happiness.
Imagine that.

reply from: faithman

Imagine that indeed....

reply from: sander

Sanger is not one to emulate, unless you want to end up in the dust bin of history....looking like you've been there years before you arrived.
You know the saying, "garbage in, garbage out".

reply from: yoda

Okay, I was looking at the wrong page..... okay, I've seen it now, and I wish I hadn't. My stomach just isn't well designed for watching such a person speak. She has the countenance of a Joseph Mengele, IMO.

reply from: sander

Takes one to know one, eh? She adored the likes of Megele and all that the nazi's stood for. She was one of the worse humanity had to offer, sadly, so many more are now emulating these two and babies in the womb are paying the ultimate price.
Just think how far down society has slid....from the Nuremburg trials to elevating the things those people were, justifiably, hung for. Sickening.

reply from: yoda

People like her used to be a tiny minority, thankfully. Now they seem to be close to a majority.

reply from: sander

People like her used to be a tiny minority, thankfully. Now they seem to be close to a majority.
Frog in the kettle syndrome.

reply from: GodsLaw4Us2Live

I shared some things I saw in the interview and hoped others would provide their analysis also as a staring point to carefully reviewing and discussing what she said.
I have heard that she was married multiple times and had multiple lovers. She and one of her "husbands" maintained separate residences and lives; just how she liked it. It appeared she was appreciative of the children she did have; she was quick to pull out their pictures and beam in happiness at the thought of them.
Is she a study in how a person can be both human and monster at the same time?

reply from: sander

Nothing could change her spieces, if that's what you mean, but her "beaming" over he own children doesn't over-ride her basic nature, "monster", imo.

reply from: yoda

Even mass murderers and serial killers usually spare their own family....

reply from: faithman

The interview was with a druken ole slut, who wants to make every woman in america the same.

reply from: sheri

Her pulling out those pictures was so contrived! Is it possible she was given a list of questions before hand? Then what about the obvious out right lies? How was she unprepared for them?

reply from: yoda

Now LDI is putting just about the entire collection of the things she wrote, books, letters, brochures, adding up to several tens of thousands of pages, online. It's being scanned by a company who does that commercially, and when it's done they'll have it all available for free, and it will be "searchable". It should be quite interesting.

reply from: ProInformed

Yup - what Yoda said:
"Even mass murderers and serial killers usually spare their own family...."
The fact that the Nazis who ran the concentration camps treated their own families with love didn't negate the fact that those same Nazis killed and tortured those imprisoned in the camps.
And sometimes serial killers help little old ladies cross the street... so what?

reply from: galen

ahhh but sanger wanted to get rid of those people too.. she consdidered homosexuality and intersexed people degenerates and felt they should never be allowed to breed... they for her were right in there with the blacks and hispanics...

reply from: yoda

Some may be like that, and others may be exactly the opposite....... and all are being self-contradictory.

reply from: faithman

That is why recruitment is SSSSOOOOO vital in perpetuating preverted life styles.

reply from: sheri

What is so amazing is how this horrid person is still revered by her spawn to this day. In Saratoga NY they have a race track that hosts the "maggies's race" every year to raise cash for Planned parenthood! She was pure evil and yet they still hold her up as the patron st of abortion.

reply from: yoda

Have you considered it may be because they actually agree with all that she said?

reply from: LolitaOlivia

The funny thing about that is that the anti-choicers make a big deal out of quotes from Susan B. Anthony and other early feminists condeming abortion, yet ignore that Margaret Sanger did the same thing at that time. Things were very conservative in Edwardian times and though there were women who got abortions (wherever there's pregnancy there will be some kind of abortion) there wasn't really a collective movement to legalize abortion and the vast majority of people didn't understand the issue very well and trusted religious leaders to decide its legal status. Birth control was a revolutionary idea at the time while abortion was something that happened but was never talked of except negatively and then only in whispers.

reply from: faithman

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j214/yodavater/IamaPerson2.jpg

reply from: sander

Margaret Sanger also continued to advocate for her racial prejudices in her magazine, Birth Control Review. In six successive issues of that magazine, she advocated limiting the racial quotas of immigration of "Slavs, Hebrews, and Latins,"[7] because of their lower intelligence! Although Ms. Sanger was the editor of the magazine, she shared its pages with the racist co-founders of the American Birth Control League. Board member Lothrup Stoddard wrote the racist book The Rising Tide of Color Against White World-Supremacy [8], which was reviewed favorably in Birth Control Review.[9] Co-founder and board member, C. C. Little, was president of the Third Race Betterment Conference, and he advocated preserving the purity of "Yankee stock" through limiting the births of non-Whites.[10]
Margaret Sanger was also strongly anti-Semitic. She started a similar birth control organization with a man named Henry Pratt Fairchild, who wrote The Melting Pot Mistake, in which he accused "the Jews" of diluting the true American stock.[11] In his book, Race and Nationality, (1947), Fairchild blamed anti-Semitism and the holocaust in part on "the Jews."[12].
Finally, Margaret Sanger and her organization began to be primary sponsors of abortion rights during her lifetime. But because she had associated herself with Adolph Hitler, praising him for his racial politics of eugenics, she changed the name of American Birth Control League to Planned Parenthood during WWII in order to disguise her racist past.[13] Today, her organization, Planned Parenthood, is still in the forefront of advocating abortion as a means of eliminating the unwanted and "unfit." Not only does the organization perform thousands abortions each year, it also receives 100's of millions of tax dollars each year through Federal and State Governments.[14] And rather than being in the forefront of a woman's right to choose, International Planned Parenthood is a primary advocate for the Chinese Government's policy of forcing women to have abortions against their will, and it also advocates for the sterilization of Third World non-Whites across the globe.[15] It seems that PP is "pro-choice" when trying to impress the U.S. media, but anti-choice in the actual implementation of its world-wide agenda.
But has Planned Parenthood changed? It is significant to note that Planned Parenthood has never distanced itself from the vision and ideology of its founder. Successive presidents of the organization have praised her work, including Faye Wattleton, who said, "As we celebrate the 100th birthday of Margaret Sanger, our courageous leader, we should be very proud of what we are and what our mission is. It is a very grand mission; abortion is only the tip of the iceberg."

reply from: yoda

Spot on, Sander!
The "Sanger legacy" is kinda like abortion itself, the borties don't really like it, but they are stuck defending it. It's like an albatross hung around their collective necks.....

reply from: faithman

They are wickedly smart. They always make statements [lie actually] that gives them plausible deniability. Sanger was always careful to say things that apealed to her audience, and avoided statements [the truth] that might offend them. Its kinda like the way they take a specific statement about a specific issue, and morph it into general all encompassing statements that they can twist into condemnation of those they do not agree with. That is why IAAP is SSSSSSOOOOOO powerful. It is the truth that shuts their lying mouths.

reply from: ProInformed

The Left Practices Genocide by Abortion
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=16919#continueA

reply from: yoda

She wasn't specific as to how families should "eliminate" unwanted children, so I suppose one could conclude that she actually intended for them to be thrown in the nearest river, right?

reply from: yoda

She has been quoted extensively by Augustine and others right here on this forum, and you're asking me if I've read anything by her? What world do you live in? Do you not read anything but your own posts here?
I guess her most famous quote is "The kindest thing that can be done for a child in a large family is to kill it".
How does that square with "hating abortion"?

reply from: nancyu

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<~
Right.
The 461,000 fetus images that Google provides have had no impact on abortion, but your fetus photo does.
I think they all do have an impact. Except to folks such as you who are just hopelessly narcissistic.

reply from: sander

They hate that albatross. You are so right, they've been forced to twist sanger's legacy into something it is not and no matter how hard they try, sanger's love of eugenics, (human weeds) large families (killing the child is kind), embrace of Hitler, the KKK, etc., still looms large. Too large, too true to overcome.

reply from: JesusLovesYou

They say you can judge someone by the company they keep, let's look at Margaret Sanger's friends:
Havelock Ellis(Margaret idolized him and studied with him): Proponent of eugenics, got sexually aroused watching women use the bathroom, came up with the idea that homosexuality isn't a choice and inspired perverts for generations to come.
Eugen Fischer(visited her at home on social and business calls): "Doctor" Hitler used to give legitimacy to his ideas that Jews and Gypsies were inferior and performed forced sterilizations himself.
Lothrop Stoddard(on the board of the "American Birth Control League", later Planned Parenthood): Activist who tried to ban immigration of "inferior" races.
Wallis Simpson("Maggie and I go way back!" exact quote): I believe the term "Nazi prostitute" has been used to describe how she gave secret information to Nazi officials. Said that the people of Britain "deserved to be bombed" because she felt they didn't like her.
And of course she spoke at the KKK...

reply from: BossMomma

Thank God she's in the ground. She was a witch...
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If a fetus isn't a human life, then what are we?
"Women have a right to do what they want with their body, but I promise you that when I held my firstborn, he was not my body." - Alveda King, granddaughter of Martin Luther King and niece of Martin Luther King Jr.
Hey! I resemble that remark! :-D

reply from: lukesmom

Just curious. Why are you including a quote from a prolife activist if you are proabortion for everyone but yourself? Your stand on abortion really makes you proabortion, period not a prolifer. As an explaination: I try not to use the term prochoice for proaborts because I am prolife and all for choices but abortion is not part of that choice because once human life has begun, no one has the right to end that life.

reply from: LolitaOlivia

Yes, darling, if you're going to be a filthy proabort scanc like me you're going to have to get rid of all that life loving and put in a quote from Satan or one of his minions.
According to faithman, J.K. Rowling, Seth MacFarlane, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Jon Stewart now qualify as minions, so your options are really quite open now.

reply from: lukesmom

I will explain this s l o w l y Lowlita so you can understand this simple concept. Boss is a proabortion advocate. She has posted a pro life quote from a pro life advocate which disputes her proabortion stand. I asked a simple question. D o y o u u n d e r s t a n d n o w?

reply from: LolitaOlivia

What makes you think I didn't understand you?

reply from: lukesmom

Sigh... rolling eyes... forget it. I guess it is over your head and not worth my time.

reply from: LolitaOlivia

No, you've just been out looking for ways to talk down to me even when it's you, not me, who doesn't seem to get what's going on.

reply from: galen

lolita your blood sugar must be low... your intellect is not showing...
go eat a pickle or something...

reply from: LolitaOlivia

What's wrong with you people?

reply from: lukesmom

What's wrong with you people?
Somehow you are mixed up and have things backwards. There is nothing "wrong" with us "people", in fact, all is "right" with us. Too bad you can't understand that. Now, don't I hear a pickle calling your name?

reply from: sk1bianca

today, a romanian "woman's" tv channel will show a movie glorifying margaret sanger. can you believe how far that s**t has gone? the next thing i'll see is teaching it in romanian schools!

reply from: nancyu

She wasn't specific as to how families should "eliminate" unwanted children, so I suppose one could conclude that she actually intended for them to be thrown in the nearest river, right?
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Did you read anything by Margaret Sanger?
She railed against abortion and infanticide, and making birth control available to everyone was her life's work.
Abortion is birth control. Abortion was her life's work. It's like a cigarette manufacturer railing against smoking. Yeah, right. If she'd just railed against abortion and infanticide and stopped there, the world would be a better place, and she would have left a much better legacy.

reply from: ChristopherLaRock

Henry Ford and Walt Disney didn't start the biggest death mills on earth.
Ford was a bigot, so don't own any Fords and stay away from Disneyland.
And it's COMPLETELY fair to judge that murderous poor excuse for a woman, anyone who thinks children are human weeds should be judged harshly forever.
See, it all comes back to her encouraging women to only have children they want.
How? By letting them kill the ones they don't want?

reply from: nancyu

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No, she HATED abortion, and contraception is a blessing to every woman who wants a healthy sex life and DOESN'T want to spend her life as a broodsow.
Gleaned from Sangers published journal "The Woman Rebel.":
"She turned women seeking abortions away from her clinics: "I do not approve of abortion." She called it "sordid," "abhorrent," "terrible," "barbaric," a "horror." She called abortionists "blood-sucking men with MD after their names who perform operations for the price of so-and-so." She called the results of abortion "an outrageous slaughter," "infanticide," "foeticide," and "the killing of babies." And Margaret Sanger, who knew a thing or two about contraception, said that birth control "has nothing to do with abortion, it has nothing to do with interfering with or disturbing life after conception has taken place." Birth control stands alone: "It is the first, last, and final step we all are to take to have real human emancipation."
Interesting, so why doesn't Planned Parenthood follow along and NOT offer the option of abortion? I thought they worshiped her memory? What about you, do you agree with these thoughts on abortion?

reply from: yoda

Perhaps because she knows it's a lie, told by Sanger to try to protect her public image?

reply from: yoda

The problem is, PP and others are still proclaiming her sainthood.....

reply from: yoda

Yeah, because her saying that she "hated abortion" don't make it so.
I think she talked out of both sides of her mouth, and privately promoted abortion all over the country.

reply from: nancyu

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Gee, Ford Motor Company and Disney don't honor their founders' racist worldview, either.
I'm assuming that those who work for Edison don't eat with their hands or pee in the houseplants like their founder did.
Yup here it comes out the other side of Spinwad's mouth.
Try answering the question that was asked.

reply from: lukesmom

Fancinating words from the pinhead who knows all, our own PINHEADDY!

reply from: nancyu

PINHEADDY, I like that one!
And she still hasn't answered the question. Pinheaddy has trouble answering very simple questions, I've noticed. I'll try again.
Pinheaddy, What about you, do you agree with Sanger's thoughts on abortion?


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