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i had to have my hamster put to sleep!

by: teddybearhamster

today i had to take one of my hamsters, frankie to the vet. he had cancer and had to be euthanized. i'm new to being pro life so i'm feeling guilty and i hope i did the right thing. i know hamsters aren't quite the same as babies but it makes me so sad. hamsters are precious to me even though they are just pets. my bf says it's just a hamster and to get over it but it does hurt. it made me think of the pro choice people who don't value the lives of the small.

reply from: nancyu

I'm so sorry, teddybear. I don't know what to say. I know how you love your pets, and I know they know, too.
Years ago, I had one of my cats put to sleep because he had been hit by a car and could no longer walk or control his bladder function. I know how it feels and I felt guilty about it, too. (I still do) After that I have always let my pets live out their natural life. Maybe that's just me.
Sorry about frankie. I'm picturing him in heaven with the babies.

reply from: sander

I'm so sorry, Teddy. My heart breaks for you too.
It's awful to have to say good-bye, but you did the right thing.
Try and comfort yourself with knowing you gave Frankie a good life.
Was he one of your rescues?
P/S, pay no attention to CP, he's an idiot. Not all pro-lifers have tender hearts. Some come from a place of thinking they're superior.

reply from: sander

What the hell is the matter with you?
PLA would be far better off if you would re-think your membership. Your smug, know it all attitude stinks up the place.

reply from: galen

CP i could undwerstand that comment to some people.. but not to TBH... she is not one of those you fear... so give it a rest.. that was REALLY cruel.

reply from: xnavy

i am sorry about your pet, my daughter and i watched a cat die in our arms. this was a cat that someone abandoned near our house and
we took it in and comforted it and 2 weeks later watched it die. it suffered a seizure and then died a couple hours later in our arms and we
buried it. my daughter and i love animals.

reply from: GodsLaw4Us2Live

That CP image. I believe there is a little overconfidence in positions taken.

reply from: JasonFontaine

Sorry for your loss. I too lost a dog I had for over 14 years recently...it's tough.
But, it shows the love and compassion you have for life. Anything breathing, anything with even a single cell - is life. Get it - even the "egg" is life!
And you, my dear friend, are at the very essence of what this is all about. We wish to preserve the beauty of life....
You may be new - but you are wise well beyond your years....
As is with life - comes death...so make each day special as I'm sure you did....and then, the life you miss, rest assured - was complete....
Take care!

reply from: carolemarie

Logic isn't the strong suit of those on this board lately.

reply from: yoda

What does that mean? Are you supporting CP's attack on this thread?

reply from: galen

cp- so you hijack a thread that had NO relation to that topic... and then stepped on someones feelings in the process. Gee no wonder you rub people the wrong way.
Yes i know and see and hear the same stuff everyone else does...but when someone is hurting personally.. not politically it would show yourself to be of good taste and good manners not to intrude upon that topic. or else you are no better than nancy fm etc.

reply from: Beprolifewithme

I'm soooooo SORRY!!!! I'am glad to say I don't know how it feels to have euthanized a pet, but I feel the same way about animals as you do!!! Im so sorry, i hope you feel better!!

reply from: carolemarie

What does that mean? Are you supporting CP's attack on this thread?
I would hardly call it an attack. PLENTY of worse things have been posted to me and you haven't cared about that at all or called their post attacks....
Like everyone else, I think the death of a hamster is sad. I am sorry it is dead.
Although I find it strange that you don't see this as a diversion from the purpose of the board, yet you are always telling us if it isn't about the babies its off topic and a diversion from the purpose of the board.

reply from: nancyu

The difference being that teddybear and her hamster are both innocent. As innocent as an uborn baby. They are the last ones deserving of any type of attack or unkindness.

reply from: nancyu

If you insist on attacking me, please take it to a different thread.

reply from: GratiaPlena

...... I tried having hamsters last summer. Each one either got out of the cage and got lost, got decapitated by my cat, or died for no apparent reason. Needless to say, I know how you feel teddybearhamster And don't feel guilty... I'm sure it would have rather been put to sleep than have died slowly from cancer.

reply from: teddybearhamster

thanks everyone. i know there's a big difference with animals and babies but pets truely are a part of the family. frankie was one of my rescues too. i miss him. i'm sorry if by posting this thread i started trouble. take care everyone.

reply from: nancyu

You didn't start the trouble. It follows me around wherever I go. (Sorry about that)

reply from: sander

I was wondering if Frankie was one of your rescuses. And you're absolutley right, animals are a part of our families! Love is love and when we experience a loss we don't have to minimize that loss for the sake of others.
You didn't start any trouble and neither did Nancy. It takes effort, but some people are just best ignored.
Just know others are feeling your pain and wish you healing and much love.

reply from: Teresa18

I am so sorry for your loss TBH. I love animals. We have 4 dogs and 2 cats. They are family members to me.
I know how you feel. We had to have a cat put down because she had feline aids. She was a stray, but we had been feeding her, and she had been living on the porch for two months. The weather was turning cold, and we decided to keep her. I'll never forget dropping her off at the vet that day. We were going to get her spayed, front declawed (I am now opposed to declawing), and her shots. She would then have been a house cat. When I got home from school that afternoon, my mom said she had to be euthanized because they discovered she had advanced feline aids. She couldn't be around our cats because she would've make them sick. I cried nonstop for almost 24 hours. Just thinking about it brings tears to my eyes. It was right at Christmas too. I also rescued a sick guinea pig the pet store was going to feed to a snake. We cared for him till the end, but he only lived a couple weeks. I miss Sheba and Sir Charles, but I'll see them again at the Rainbow Bridge. Have you heard The Rainbow Bridge?
http://www.petloss.com/poems/maingrp/rainbowb.htm

reply from: galen

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to be honest TBH there are simply several views on euthanasia.. animal and humans, you did what you thought was right for the poor creature and i'm sure that the end if its suffering was the right thing to do. i've heard of chemo for dogs and cats etc but never for so small a creature.
To be quite honest I hope if my suffering were severe and there was no treatment for it someone would be so kind to me.

reply from: yoda

How very, very strange... did someone kill YOUR hamster? .. This is the first time I can recall you joining in on a nasty attack on someone. And now you want to justify it by saying you've "seen worse"? How does that justify anything?
When the diversion is couched in a personal attack, yes I am usually the first to complain about it. When someone posts about a personal problem, I have never done anything of the sort. But AGAIN, how would that justify what CP and you are trying to do here?
So now you have joined the ranks of the snipers and assassins, eh? Getting right down there in the gutter with them now?

reply from: sander

How very, very strange... did someone kill YOUR hamster? .. This is the first time I can recall you joining in on a nasty attack on someone. And now you want to justify it by saying you've "seen worse"? How does that justify anything?
When the diversion is couched in a personal attack, yes I am usually the first to complain about it. When someone posts about a personal problem, I have never done anything of the sort. But AGAIN, how would that justify what CP and you are trying to do here?
So now you have joined the ranks of the snipers and assassins, eh? Getting right down there in the gutter with them now?
I guess the "thou shalt not judge/attack" police are off duty when CM and CP are here.
Very interesting.

reply from: GratiaPlena

Ugh.
YET ANOTHER thread turned into a pissing contest.

reply from: yoda

Faux moderators are immune to criticism, you know?

reply from: galen

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yeah... real healthy CP.... up untill now i actually respected you.

reply from: galen

Mary, my sarcasm was directed at Nancy. I assumed anyone who has been following the drama on the forum would get that. I apologize for not being more clear, but offer no apology for the remark itself.
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the point was that YOu hijacked this thread... if you don't see that maybe You need brain surgery.
Would you mind filling me in on exactly who are "those I fear?" I was not aware that I had reason to "fear" anyone on this forum...Do you know something I don't?

reply from: carolemarie

How very, very strange... did someone kill YOUR hamster? .. This is the first time I can recall you joining in on a nasty attack on someone. And now you want to justify it by saying you've "seen worse"? How does that justify anything?
When the diversion is couched in a personal attack, yes I am usually the first to complain about it. When someone posts about a personal problem, I have never done anything of the sort. But AGAIN, how would that justify what CP and you are trying to do here?
So now you have joined the ranks of the snipers and assassins, eh? Getting right down there in the gutter with them now?
I am not trying to do anything.
I think CP's remark was a tad insensitive, but fits right in the general tone of this forum. It is full of hate and nastiness. You people call me a babykiller and worse and apparently that is just fine, even though it is mean and cruel to rub my childrens deaths in my face, that is a non concern. I hear ***** and other revolting comments as well . I have yet to see a post from you complaining about it.
The only reason you hopped on this is because you dislike CP.
I think this board needs to go back to debating rather than personal attacks and peevish rants.
I think the comment that logic doesn't reign on this board applies.

reply from: kayluvzchoice

Excuse me?
You can be pro-life without being a generalizing bigot. You have no idea what I and the rest of pro-choicers value.
Anyway, I am sorry about your hamster. I know it is hard to lose a pet. They are not "just" pets they are a part of your family so it isn't weird or anything and your boyfriend is a ***** for saying that.

reply from: kayluvzchoice

I totally agree with this. But I think we all should know by now that a few select people on this forum are like immune to hypocrisy.

reply from: sander

I totally agree with this. But I think we all should know by now that a few select people on this forum are like immune to hypocrisy.
This coming from someone who doesn't blink an eye at the death of a child in the womb!
You got the HYPOCRISY market cornered.

reply from: yoda

Yes, his remarks were full of both, and you joined right in with him, didn't you?
When did I become "you people"? Do you have a list of "you people"?
Their "death"? Is that what you call an abortion now?
Then why are you perpetuating and supporting CP's "hateful and nasty" attack?

reply from: yoda

Yep..... when kay is on your side, you need to reexamine your position for sure. "Birds of a feather", so they say.....

reply from: faithman

http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_when.htm

reply from: Beprolifewithme

Excuse me?
You can be pro-life without being a generalizing bigot. You have no idea what I and the rest of pro-choicers value.
Anyway, I am sorry about your hamster. I know it is hard to lose a pet. They are not "just" pets they are a part of your family so it isn't weird or anything and your boyfriend is a ***** for saying that.
Ahhh, the lovely Kay has returned..... Kay you don't need to beat on her.....she just lost a part of her familiy, do you have any place in your heart that may contain anything near a tidge of sympathy for her?? Poor lady, I know exactly how she feels. Give her a break...sheesh.

reply from: jujujellybean

Excuse me?
You can be pro-life without being a generalizing bigot. You have no idea what I and the rest of pro-choicers value.
Anyway, I am sorry about your hamster. I know it is hard to lose a pet. They are not "just" pets they are a part of your family so it isn't weird or anything and your boyfriend is a ***** for saying that.
Our cat died a few years ago; it was heartbreaking, because my mom had had him for like years. He was around 22 years old, and couldn't hear or see very well. He ran under the car as we came in the driveway, he probably saw the light and ran for it. It was quick end, and he didn't suffer any pain. I suppose that is all we could ask for. We all knew it was going to happen; it was still really hard.

reply from: jujujellybean

Excuse me?
You can be pro-life without being a generalizing bigot. You have no idea what I and the rest of pro-choicers value.
Considering that you promote a baby being ripped from the womb and torn into pieces or sucked out, it's pretty hard to imagine you valuing life in general, even.

reply from: Antibigot

Excuse me?
You can be pro-life without being a generalizing bigot. You have no idea what I and the rest of pro-choicers value.
Anyway, I am sorry about your hamster. I know it is hard to lose a pet. They are not "just" pets they are a part of your family so it isn't weird or anything and your boyfriend is a ***** for saying that.
We do know that pro-choicers do not value an unborn human unless it is wanted or maybe viable (since some people on your side are against abortions during late term.) I mean, you can't deny this. Otherwise you wouldn't be pro-choice!

reply from: sander

Yes we do. You people value yourselves.

reply from: kayluvzchoice

Yes we do. You people value yourselves.
You must be a very social person to know every single pro-choicer on the planet.

reply from: kayluvzchoice

Yep..... when kay is on your side, you need to reexamine your position for sure. "Birds of a feather", so they say.....
So a pro-choicer and a pro-lifer can't agree on anything???

reply from: sander

Yes we do. You people value yourselves.
You must be a very social person to know every single pro-choicer on the planet.
Don't have to go far and visit many to know the heart and soul of people who would rather kill their own child rather than face up to their responsibilites.
It's the height of selfishness, no two ways about it.

reply from: kayluvzchoice

Excuse me?
You can be pro-life without being a generalizing bigot. You have no idea what I and the rest of pro-choicers value.
Anyway, I am sorry about your hamster. I know it is hard to lose a pet. They are not "just" pets they are a part of your family so it isn't weird or anything and your boyfriend is a ***** for saying that.
Ahhh, the lovely Kay has returned..... Kay you don't need to beat on her.....she just lost a part of her familiy, do you have any place in your heart that may contain anything near a tidge of sympathy for her?? Poor lady, I know exactly how she feels. Give her a break...sheesh.
I was not beating on her. And yes, I do have sympathy for her.

reply from: kayluvzchoice

Yes we do. You people value yourselves.
You must be a very social person to know every single pro-choicer on the planet.
Don't have to go far and visit many to know the heart and soul of people who would rather kill their own child rather than face up to their responsibilites.
It's the height of selfishness, no two ways about it.
What does your bible say about judging others???

reply from: sander

Yes we do. You people value yourselves.
You must be a very social person to know every single pro-choicer on the planet.
Don't have to go far and visit many to know the heart and soul of people who would rather kill their own child rather than face up to their responsibilites.
It's the height of selfishness, no two ways about it.
What does your bible say about judging others???
I'm glad you asked.
"judge with righteous judgment" (John 7:24)
He praised a man (Luke 7:43) who could "rightly judge" a matter of the heart.
Paul shamed the Corinthian Christians because no one among them was willing to "judge the smallest matters" (1 Cor. 6:2).
As the Apostle wrote, "He who is spiritual judges all things" for "we have the mind of Christ" (1 Cor. 2:15-'16).

reply from: kayluvzchoice

Yes we do. You people value yourselves.
You must be a very social person to know every single pro-choicer on the planet.
Don't have to go far and visit many to know the heart and soul of people who would rather kill their own child rather than face up to their responsibilites.
It's the height of selfishness, no two ways about it.
What does your bible say about judging others???
I'm glad you asked.
"judge with righteous judgment" (John 7:24)
He praised a man (Luke 7:43) who could "rightly judge" a matter of the heart.
Paul shamed the Corinthian Christians because no one among them was willing to "judge the smallest matters" (1 Cor. 6:2).
As the Apostle wrote, "He who is spiritual judges all things" for "we have the mind of Christ" (1 Cor. 2:15-'16).
So you completely overlook the verses looking down on judging others?

reply from: kayluvzchoice

I totally agree with this. But I think we all should know by now that a few select people on this forum are like immune to hypocrisy.
This coming from someone who doesn't blink an eye at the death of a child in the womb!
You got the HYPOCRISY market cornered.
How does not valuing a fetus make me a hypocrite?

reply from: sander

I'm not overlooking anything. I'm putting into context (you might try that) what the Word has told us about judging. Someone who has murdered their child and repented and come to their senses I will not judge.
Until then...you betcha sister...I'm judging the individual and their actions to be murder and selfishisness of the highest order.

reply from: nancyu

I totally agree with this. But I think we all should know by now that a few select people on this forum are like immune to hypocrisy.
This coming from someone who doesn't blink an eye at the death of a child in the womb!
You got the HYPOCRISY market cornered.
How does not valuing a fetus make me a hypocrite?
Because an uborn child is a person.

reply from: kayluvzchoice

I totally agree with this. But I think we all should know by now that a few select people on this forum are like immune to hypocrisy.
This coming from someone who doesn't blink an eye at the death of a child in the womb!
You got the HYPOCRISY market cornered.
How does not valuing a fetus make me a hypocrite?
Because an uborn child is a person.
And that has what to do with being a hypocrite??

reply from: sander

The day you see an unborn human being worth saving from abortion, then get back to us on how sad you are about dead pets.
Clear enough?

reply from: carolemarie

When did I become "you people"? Do you have a list of "you people"?
Yes I do. And most of you are on ignore until your manners improve.
And FYI -- I was saying the tone of the board was nasty and full of hate. Cp's comments were merely insensitve, but not "full of hate".

reply from: galen

i disagree... by hijacking the topic... he acted like all the rest.
there for while i can again respect if not aagree with your opinion CM... i can not respect his point of view ... its kind of like presenting a four course dinner in the back of a hog manuer pile.

reply from: yoda

When the subject is abortion or abortion related topics, any agreement at all is cause for concern, IMO.

reply from: yoda

Ah, okay.... so you support comments that are "merely insensitive", right? In fact, you encourage them, right?

reply from: yodafaker

Ah, okay.... so you support comments that are "merely insensitive", right? In fact, you encourage them, right?
Carolemarie did not make any "attack" of any sort, yet you managed to once again twist words and make it seem she said or implied something, and got at least one pal to jump on the bandwagon.
And she wasn't encouraging, "insensitivity," but you figured out a way to accuse her of it.
Faithmain is so blatant in his attacks and cruelty, but you are subtle and sneaky about it.
No wonder you're my hero.

reply from: yodafaker

What does "judge not, lest ye be judged mean, then?"
I think that the point was that your position does not give you the right to be pompous and self-righteous.
But if that's how you have fun, then I'm not one to knock you for it.
I prefer to follow yodavater's example and take words out of context and twist them into something entirely different than what the poster intended, and THEN be pompous and self-righteous about the misrepresentation I created.
That's a lot more fun and a lot more creative.

reply from: sander

Get bored with the bloivator sig...you know, you really need to grow up, get a grip and learn that your tendencies to be a control freak are tiresome.

reply from: galen

hi faramir... look in the glass lately?

reply from: Faramir

Yes, his remarks were full of both, and you joined right in with him, didn't you?
When did I become "you people"? Do you have a list of "you people"?
Their "death"? Is that what you call an abortion now?
Then why are you perpetuating and supporting CP's "hateful and nasty" attack?
It amazes me that so many posters here enable these harrassive and deceptive "techniques."
This guy sticks the knife in too, except he is very sly about it, but no less cruel than the others.
Very disgusting...

reply from: yoda

What do you, a radical proabort, really care about what the Bible says?

reply from: yoda

Carolemarie, is that you? Or Faramir? Or CP?

reply from: Faramir

What do you, a radical proabort, really care about what the Bible says?
Maybe even a confused 17 year old "pro abort" knows hypocricy when she sees it.
And why not answer her question?

reply from: yoda

What do you think... is that carole, Fartboy, or CP?

reply from: yoda

That's one vote for Fartboy........

reply from: Faramir

What do you think... is that carole, Fartboy, or CP?
Could it be that yodavater is a "pro abort" in disguise?
Maybe that would explain why he is so obnoxious towards so many prolifers.

reply from: galen

only the ones that come here with hidden agendas....

reply from: yoda

And to think..... he's supposed to be a "faux moderator"........

reply from: Faramir

Keep kissing his arrogant butt, galen, and continue to be an enabler to some really disgusting behavior.

reply from: galen

sense you ahve only been here a short while you ahve yet to see Yoda nad i sparr... but guess what we do.
I just don't take everyting personally the way you do because i do not have guilt weighing me down.
I agree with whom i agree with and don't agree with whom i don't...

reply from: Faramir

That was random, especially since there was nothing here that pertained to me.
I was referring to yoda's very sneaky way of distorting Carole's posts besides calling her "killer carole" in is own underhanded way.
He says he cares about the babies, yet he spends an inordinate amount of time dissing fellow prolifers.

reply from: galen

he also spends about 2x as much time "out there" defending these children and working against abortion... what have you done lately?
in fact i can't remember you ever sharing your personal story of activism.. so do you picket volunteer etc.
And i have seen yoda debate with carole... i have also seen her get advice from him and he from her.

reply from: sander

That's one vote for Fartboy........
Make that two!
Oh brother, this guy has got some deep issues (control freak)! I'd laugh, but for entire time he's been here he's done nothing but play into the proaborts hands.

reply from: nancyu

I thought a break would do him good. I guess it didn't help a bit. CM thinks I am obsessed with her? I think she should take a peak at this guy!

reply from: galen

Faramir i ask again... what have YOU done to support the antiabortion cause... except be here and give your opinion on how the board is run?

reply from: Faramir

What I have done, am doing, or will do, is totally irrelevant.
This is a discussion board.
And I don't care if I just single handedly shut down ten abortion clinics. That doesn't give me the right to come here and browbeat and harrass others.
Yoda has done to cm the same as what f'boy has done, except f'boy is more respectable, since he's open about it and not sneaky and underhanded like yodaboy.
If yodaboy cares about helping the babies, he should not spend so much time playing his pc games with other prolifers.
Not all of us believe like the unholy trinity of yodavater, faithman, and sander.
We can still be prolife without being harrasive, nasty, and condescending. We don't need to beat-up "pro aborts" to show how much we love babies.
If yoda is out there truly saving babies like carolemarie is doing, then that's wonderful. Why he behaves like the opposite of that kind of a person on this board is a mystery, unless he's got some bad motivations for what he's doing.

reply from: sander

Nope...he came out claws bared and pounced, but first he came in as a Yoda wannabe....my, my.
I don't think the surgery was successful.

reply from: galen

no your just another person who wants everyone to 'play fair' but according to your rules only.
I've read many of yoda's posts and i don't think he was mean to CM but i do think your a nutter.
go away.
there i said it.
go away- this place was actually getting back to honest debate with you gone.
go away.

reply from: nancyu

Yeah, why wasn't I included in the unholy trinity? I'm feeling quite left out.
But then I guess you would have had to call it something else like the unholy quadranity or something like that. I know I couldn't spell that, maybe you couldn't either.

reply from: Faramir

You're entitled to your opinion about me.
I will refrain from responding in kind, in spite of your hair color.
If you objectively read the posts, you'll see what I mean about not only being unfair, but in being malicious.
CM sees it too, I'm sure.
Being honest and persistent and not sweeping this garbage under the carpet, giving a false appearance of an "honest debate," does not make me a "nutter," and I don't intend to accept your invitation, but thanks for the offer.

reply from: sander

There's NO way he has enough self control or self respect to leave.
The ignore feature is the only way to keep debating abortion instead of his ego.

reply from: cracrat

Because that would make it four, which is one too many. Maybe there'll be an unholy trinity part II you can get involved in...

reply from: nancyu

He's making us forget what this thread is about.
Teddybear's hamster
Where are you teddybear?? We miss you.

reply from: sander

That's his job, to make everyone forget what the entire website is about!
I heard from Teddy, she's okay...she'll be back.

reply from: galen

??
did i miss something CM?

reply from: carolemarie

LOL
No, I was having trouble with the copy and paste fuction (typing without my contacts in as well!)

reply from: yoda

I think you may be on to something there..........
I hope so. Converts like her are valuable to us, and to the babies.

reply from: Faramir

That's one vote for Fartboy........
This is hilarious. Here's a bit of ironic trivia: The poster who first called him "fartamir" accused me of "stinking up the forum." I got a chuckle out of that.
It's amazing to me that some of these prolifers value their egos more than their cause, or they would not attempt to discourage fellow prolifers.

reply from: sander

Yep, I'm on to something, all right. He's as much use to the unborn as any self proclaimed proabort on this site.
She's going thru some of the common symptoms of pregnancy, but it shall pass and she'll be back. She's a sweetheart.

reply from: nancyu

That's one vote for Fartboy........
This is hilarious. Here's a bit of ironic trivia: The poster who first called him "fartamir" accused me of "stinking up the forum." I got a chuckle out of that.
It's amazing to me that some of these prolifers value their egos more than their cause, or they would not attempt to discourage fellow prolifers.
What? Discourage fellow pro lifers from what exactly? Yodavater has never discouraged me. Maybe you should try reading better and actually listening to what he has to say, instead of so self-righteously judging him.

reply from: sander

Did you forget fartnomore is the self righteous/thou shalt not judge/call names police captian???? He alone can do no wrong....sheesh.
Anyway, he wouldn't know a prolife position if one sat on his lap and called him mama.

reply from: Faramir

That's one vote for Fartboy........
This is hilarious. Here's a bit of ironic trivia: The poster who first called him "fartamir" accused me of "stinking up the forum." I got a chuckle out of that.
It's amazing to me that some of these prolifers value their egos more than their cause, or they would not attempt to discourage fellow prolifers.
What? Discourage fellow pro lifers from what exactly? Yodavater has never discouraged me. Maybe you should try reading better and actually listening to what he has to say, instead of so self-righteously judging him.
You kiss his butt, so he leaves you alone.
If you question anything he says, he gets very testy and instead of addressing the issue, will take the ego-preserving way out, and and use the "pro abort" label.
I believe he is prolife, but I've observed his manner, and he can be quite sneaky and malicious. He'll use "the babies" as an excuse, but it's just an excuse.

reply from: nancyu

That's one vote for Fartboy........
This is hilarious. Here's a bit of ironic trivia: The poster who first called him "fartamir" accused me of "stinking up the forum." I got a chuckle out of that.
It's amazing to me that some of these prolifers value their egos more than their cause, or they would not attempt to discourage fellow prolifers.
What? Discourage fellow pro lifers from what exactly? Yodavater has never discouraged me. Maybe you should try reading better and actually listening to what he has to say, instead of so self-righteously judging him.
No, I don't. I have disagreed with him only once that I can remember. I told him so, and he very graciously defended his position, and recognized mine. I'm not going to disagree with points that I agree with. If you think that's kissing his butt then it must be a personal problem that you have.
Oh how you do go on. and on and on and on....

reply from: nancyu

Now, I don't care who you are. that's funny right there,

reply from: Faramir

Whatever nancyu, but calling fellow prolifers "proaborts" is stupid and counterproductive.

reply from: nancyu

Not if they are pro aborts who don't realize they are pro aborts.

reply from: yoda

Riiiight...... when he judges someone, it's "okay".....

reply from: yoda

It does make you wonder, doesn't it? Why can't such comments be kept short and to the point.... I think I liked it better when I was being called certain profane names.....

reply from: sander

Riiiight...... when he judges someone, it's "okay".....
Did you hear? There's a new term for hypocrite! It's spelled..."Faramir".
You've heard of being "Borked", now we can say, you Faramirite"!

reply from: yoda

That's hard to say......
How about "Fartnomorer"?

reply from: sander

Okay, that's good too.
And I'm NOT kissing your...(I can't even say it!) by agreeing with you!
Let's just get that straight!

reply from: yoda

I think all this kissing talk is making someone jealous........

reply from: galen

That's one vote for Fartboy........
This is hilarious. Here's a bit of ironic trivia: The poster who first called him "fartamir" accused me of "stinking up the forum." I got a chuckle out of that.
It's amazing to me that some of these prolifers value their egos more than their cause, or they would not attempt to discourage fellow prolifers.
What? Discourage fellow pro lifers from what exactly? Yodavater has never discouraged me. Maybe you should try reading better and actually listening to what he has to say, instead of so self-righteously judging him.
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nancy telling someone else to read???


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