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a great new way to witness for adoption

by: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

I copied all the couples (three) listed for the state of Tennessee, and handed them out at the abortuary this morning. We rarely get a chance to talk to the "customers", but sometimes when we do it might be helpful to be able to show them the names and photos of couples and families wanting to adopt in this state.
And we can answer any of them who yell at us and say: "Well are YOU going to adopt this child if I don't abort?" Of course, when we respond "Yes", they frown at us and walk on into the abortuary anyway. Most of use are too old to be considered adoptive parents anyway, but we can put them in contact with people who are already pre-screened for adoption.
Check out the website.....

reply from: GratiaPlena

Wow. Awesome idea handing the profile out! You're helping more than one person there.
Keep it up!

reply from: yoda

Thanks, galen and GP. Wouldn't it be wonderful to talk about something like this instead of the "other subject"?
p.s. I got the idea from someone who recently posted here..... can you guess who?

reply from: galen

so were there any takers?
anyone seem to waver?

reply from: GratiaPlena

I guess I'm stupid. I don't know who, no sarcasm. Lol.

reply from: yoda

I only saw one conversation this morning, and I had to leave before it was finished. It's not something that I expect to work miracles, but to me one baby saved in five years is worth all the time and work I've put in.

reply from: GratiaPlena

Maybe you should print out couples from surrounding states, too, in case some women are from out of state? Kind of far-fetched, but it might be worth it.

reply from: sander

I saw Teddybearhamster post about this very subject, was it her, Yoda?
I think it's an awesome idea.
Also, I think Teddy suggest putting the pictures of the prospetive parents on protest signs as you're outside of the death mills.
I don't know if you'd have to get permission from the parents first?

reply from: yoda

It was someone who came in posting a lot about self-hatred, in broken English, and then seemed to change their mind about abortion after seeing some photos of aborted babies. I think the name was "teddybearhamster".

reply from: GratiaPlena

Hmm. I had her in mind!

reply from: sander

It was someone who came in posting a lot about self-hatred, in broken English, and then seemed to change their mind about abortion after seeing some photos of aborted babies. I think the name was "teddybearhamster".
She did a 180 degree turn around after seeing the poor little tortured bodies of the dead babies.
She is now as pro-life as anyone I have ever met.
So, the deaths of the ones she saw were not totally in vain.

reply from: galen

Yep did you all see her ultrasound pics?

reply from: sander

In fact, her turn around was so swift and complete another proabort asked her if she was a "plant" from the prolife side!

reply from: sander

Yes, I did.
The baby was so clear. When my daughter-in-law had hers at 11 weeks it was hard to see the baby.
But, she's having another one next month and we should be able to see what I all ready know, the cutest baby to be born in '08!

reply from: yoda

I don't know about that, it might help. Do you go to protest?

reply from: yoda

No, any photo that is on the web could be used on a sign as well, the problem would be to do it so that it could be understood from a distance, or from a glance. If you could make it so that the meaning was obvious, it might work fine.

reply from: yoda

Yeah, I thought about that........ but honestly, I have no idea who she is.

reply from: FideiSpeiCaritatis

wow... what a wonderful story! I will pray for her and her little one!

reply from: sander

No, any photo that is on the web could be used on a sign as well, the problem would be to do it so that it could be understood from a distance, or from a glance. If you could make it so that the meaning was obvious, it might work fine.
I bet there are people creative enough to do that.
And now that I think about it, if a prospetive parent actually got the baby they are dreaming of from this idea, they will be so greateful that they won't care how it came about!
It would probably only take one couple getting their darling for others to join you at the protests!

reply from: sander

Yeah, I thought about that........ but honestly, I have no idea who she is.
She's definatley not a plant...she's for real. She keeps in touch with me and my heart says she's the real deal.

reply from: GratiaPlena

My city is abortion-free, so I don't go to clinics too often- the nearest one is hours away. I do protest in front of our local PP, which does referalls and things like that.

reply from: galen

hmmm we could start a new protest movement... this is a great idea... i need to do some e-mails in the AM.
i'm going to talk about this w/ the deacon who brings me communion.

reply from: sander

That's fabulous, Mary.

reply from: yoda

I live near Chattanooga, which is the largest abortion-mill free town in the USA. They do have the occasional protest, however, just to keep people from forgetting what abortion is.
From what I hear, PP claims to refer for adoption, but in reality does not. Anyway, that might be a dandy place to try the website photos.

reply from: sander

I'm sure she will appreciate it.

reply from: GratiaPlena

I think we should ask the couples before putting their pictures on fliers and distributing them.

reply from: yoda

I have to disagree. There is no identifying information on the pictures, other than the address of the website and their number. And they have already agreed to have their photo on the website.
They are asking for our help to find babies to adopt, they are not trying to make money out of their image.

reply from: sander

I have to disagree. There is no identifying information on the pictures, other than the address of the website and their number. And they have already agreed to have their photo on the website.
They are asking for our help to find babies to adopt, they are not trying to make money out of their image.
Put a baby in their arms and they'll thank you til the day they die for put their picture on a sign.

reply from: galen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLCG5mNlxnI&feature=related

reply from: galen

I just did a massive e-mail burst... hopefully it will generate a response in my community...
Again what a great idea!

reply from: nancyu

http://answers.yahoo.com/search/search_result;_ylt=AogQtvU1nwRRkjNphPe01KInzKIX;_ylv=3?ps=1&p=adoption&pn=&scope=&mc=&fltr=_en&tab=3&asktime=&st=1

reply from: faithman

It was someone who came in posting a lot about self-hatred, in broken English, and then seemed to change their mind about abortion after seeing some photos of aborted babies. I think the name was "teddybearhamster".
She did a 180 degree turn around after seeing the poor little tortured bodies of the dead babies.
She is now as pro-life as anyone I have ever met.
So, the deaths of the ones she saw were not totally in vain.
And everyone puts me down for my tactics... When was the last time the phonies who attack me turn a borty around? HHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMM?

reply from: yoda

Thanks for your efforts, Mary. And yes, teddybearhamster had a terrific idea in this case.

reply from: carolemarie

That is a wonderful idea!
Perhaps the CPC's would benefit from this information as well to show the women who show up their.
Carolemarie

reply from: yoda

Interesting idea. I'll send an email to someone who is on speaking terms with the local CPC.....

reply from: 4given

Good to know. The abortuary closest to me is over an hour away. I have found that the city of Manchester does not require permits, but has been a source of anti-life violence. I was told that we would "have to keep moving" if we pray there. I will go to a PP about 35 minutes from here instead. They do offer abotifacients and refer others to abortuaries.. At most, we can regularly remain active. And perhaps monthly visit the demonic strong holds of the killing fields further away..

reply from: faithman

Good to know. The abortuary closest to me is over an hour away. I have found that the city of Manchester does not require permits, but has been a source of anti-life violence. I was told that we would "have to keep moving" if we pray there. I will go to a PP about 35 minutes from here instead. They do offer abotifacients and refer others to abortuaries.. At most, we can regularly remain active. And perhaps monthly visit the demonic strong holds of the killing fields further away..
Actually you will be more effective at a referal clinic anyway. You have a better chance to reach the women there before PP indoctrinates them. This is also the best place for the soft aproach. there is far less violence against lifers at the referal clinics, and are really kid freindly as well. Kids make the best witness against abortion. The live pictures are also exalent at a referal clinic. The referal clinics are by far more important in prevention, and the most neglected. God has put ypou by one for a reason. The IAAP was designed for such veniews. The adoption parents posters sounds like a good one as well. You will hurt PP much more at the referal clinic.

reply from: 4given

Great point. I feel disappointed by the city laws that make our presence difficult. Nevermind the pro-abort violence! (others praying had a gun pulled on them, were nearly injured from a car driving into them..I was frightened at the details) I will still go there, but happy to understand my importance at the PP- next to the college. I will update. I am pleased with TBH suggestion and Yoda's action! I will definately do that as well. Thank you!

reply from: sander

Funny, I never see any of that on the news!
Be careful, 4Given!

reply from: 4given

And sadly, you probably never will.. until a peaceful protester is killed anyway! I was surprised when I was told.. for a moment anyway. I fortunately have the advice of a long-time prayer warrior.. I will be careful- and you better believe I won't for a second put up with any of that.. although Pro-choicers are so violent.. I guess her point was- be careful and one never can tell..

reply from: teddybearhamster

I feel disappointed by the city laws that make our presence difficult.
what are the laws on protesting at clinics. just in case. i don't live near a clinic but if i were ever to participate in a protest i'd like to do it without being arrested.

reply from: 4given

They vary by city or county. I was specifically talking about the closet abortion clinic to me.. And the city laws require that if protesting, one must keep clear of the parking lot, remain on the sidewalk, not block traffic, on foot, car or bike- and "keep moving"- ie. walk back and forth- not "protest".. Every state and city is different. I don't think one is arrested unless they refuse to move which is civil disobedience.

reply from: sander

Maybe I'm cynical, but I doubt that would make the news without a proabort spin.

reply from: yoda

Don't even depend on that. The only mention of it may be in the obituaries.

reply from: yoda

You could beat that in court if you wanted to go to the trouble. If you ever get arrested for "not moving" call one of the prolife law firms. One of them will help you, I'm sure.

reply from: yoda

This is too good a thread to let disappear......

reply from: galen

-------------------http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A9PiGyxlhU&NR=1

reply from: 4given

You could beat that in court if you wanted to go to the trouble. If you ever get arrested for "not moving" call one of the prolife law firms. One of them will help you, I'm sure.
Yes. It really doesn't make sense to me.. I don't want the trouble. How can the police dept. charge anyone for a lack of mobility when a permit is not required? It seems like that was the compromise the city and its proabort mayor made on behalf of PP. Seems like the field trip there with the troubled pre-teens would have brought in enough business, right? Anyway, I think I will see for myself. I do trust and heed my warnings.. The whole idea seems ludicrous. I appreciate your advice! Thank you.

reply from: teddybearhamster

[qYes. It really doesn't make sense to me.. I don't want the trouble. How can the police dept. charge anyone for a lack of mobility when a permit is not required? It seems like that was the compromise the city and its proabort mayor made on behalf of PP. Seems like the field trip there with the troubled pre-teens would have brought in enough business, right? Anyway, I think I will see for myself. I do trust and heed my warnings.. The whole idea seems ludicrous. I appreciate your advice! Thank you.
that sucks that your mayor caters to pro abortion. you're not the ones hurting anyone they are.

reply from: yoda

In all likelihood, it is an action designed to prevent you from talking to anyone going into the abortuary. They probably figure that if you're walking, you can't stop and talk to them.
There is no legal basis for it, it's simply a "raw exercise of police power". They know that most people fear any type of arrest, even a false arrest. And in truth, they don't really want to risk a lawsuit themselves, so they will most likely just bluff you, and hope you are scared enough not to challenge them.
I have a fairly comprehensive list of legal firms that specialize in protecting the first amendment rights of prolifers on my website links page. You might contact one or more of them to get general advice on your situation.

reply from: faithman

In all likelihood, it is an action designed to prevent you from talking to anyone going into the abortuary. They probably figure that if you're walking, you can't stop and talk to them.
There is no legal basis for it, it's simply a "raw exercise of police power". They know that most people fear any type of arrest, even a false arrest. And in truth, they don't really want to risk a lawsuit themselves, so they will most likely just bluff you, and hope you are scared enough not to challenge them.
I have a fairly comprehensive list of legal firms that specialize in protecting the first amendment rights of prolifers on my website links page. You might contact one or more of them to get general advice on your situation.
You might even get them to write um a letter to inform the authorities what your rights are, and their intent to defend your rights. Get a copy of the constitution, and carry it with you. Some states require a common oath of office for peace oficers. You can get a copy at any police station. Carry their oath with ya, and when they ask for your id hand them the oath and you copy of the constitution, and tell them they took an oath to proteck your rights, not violate them. That puts um on notice the ain't dealing with a dummy, and you know your rights. Of course faramir might call that tactic MEAN BULLYING.

reply from: yoda

All the above is good advice, and you might also want to try to get one of the prolife law firms to send you something with their letterhead on it.

reply from: 4given

Thank you Yoda. I will check them out. I can't believe that the man that pulled a shotgun only got probation! I will find out as much as I can before organizing with others who wish to join me. I was told that one person was arrested for civil disobedience because she didn't "keep moving". Again, thank you for the info! I will check it out.

reply from: 4given

This is helpful- and you are right. I know that some operate with a pompous attitude- though I have heard for the most part they are okay.. just threatening arrest etc.. and it is on a public sidewalk, so I don't believe they can arrest.. the "rules" are so arbitrary it seems. Maybe if they did require a permit, it may actually outline their own special set of laws. But whatever. Learn as I go. Thank you!

reply from: 4given

Good idea. I will check the links you have, and also look in my state. I appreciate your experience and help with this. Thank you.

reply from: 4given

Right? I think the "crack down" on the peaceful pro-lifers has to do with the field trip the state took at risk teens and pre-teens to- at Planned Parenthood. There were many people disgusted- obviously. More prayer warriors started going- some of which stayed in their cars. The clinic staff and police came up w/ rules for non-clients shortly after that. And prayer doesn't hurt anyone- you are right!
Edit to include- Babies Do Rock!!! I just noticed that in your sig..

reply from: sander

Right? I think the "crack down" on the peaceful pro-lifers has to do with the field trip the state took at risk teens and pre-teens to- at Planned Parenthood. There were many people disgusted- obviously. More prayer warriors started going- some of which stayed in their cars. The clinic staff and police came up w/ rules for non-clients shortly after that. And prayer doesn't hurt anyone- you are right!
PP as a "FIELD TRIP"!
What next....never mind, don't tell me!
If I ever get wind of that happening to my grandaughter, you can bet there won't be anything "peaceful" about what I have to say!

reply from: faithman

This is helpful- and you are right. I know that some operate with a pompous attitude- though I have heard for the most part they are okay.. just threatening arrest etc.. and it is on a public sidewalk, so I don't believe they can arrest.. the "rules" are so arbitrary it seems. Maybe if they did require a permit, it may actually outline their own special set of laws. But whatever. Learn as I go. Thank you!
Your "permit" for free speach is the constitution of the united states. What happens is that people go to the side walk as a group. Don't ever gone a group on the side walk. Go as an individual U S citizen exersising your rights. That way "congrigating", and "asembly" laws do not aply. Also you will find numb sculls like faramir that want to controll you, and tell you what to do. I always tell tel to get a grip and get out of my face. "Pro-life groups" can be just as opressive, if not more so, to individual free speach rights.

reply from: 4given

Faithman- I am scared to go alone! I would not go as a large group, but certainly not alone. Maybe 3 or 4.. Or maybe just bring my son. We are planning to go to the PP closest this weekend- although it doesn't perform surgical abortions, as I said- they do refer women and provide abortifacients.. I would not feel comfortable going alone there either.. Appreciate your experience and advice!
Sander- they brought "at risk" teens there! I think they were part of a YMCA field trip.. I would be furious! Our state has no parental notification/consent laws. Anyone can abort at any time w/out parent knowledge etc.. And they also do not require any form of ID to verify residency.. Scary, huh?

reply from: sander

Oh, the irony....
Wouldn't want to help them make good choices, just show them how to get rid of the choices they do make.
Real ironic....

reply from: sander

Why are you scared to harass women and give them unsolicited advice by yourself? Isn't getting your point across worth some confrontation from those you seek to agitate?
Ever heard of the first amendment?
Try reading it, you'll learn something.

reply from: 4given

You fool. No one is seeking to agitate. I am not interested in engaging anyone there unless approached. Yep- pro-abort confrontation- like cars almost hitting others and shotguns being pulled.. Pro-aborts are so violent. It is not safe.

reply from: sander

If it still stood for the acronym you might have a point.

reply from: sander

You fool. No one is seeking to agitate. I am not interested in engaging anyone there unless approached. Yep- pro-abort confrontation- like cars almost hitting others and shotguns being pulled.. Pro-aborts are so violent. It is not safe.
Are you trying to burst joeravecfou's bubble?
She thinks proaborts are sane and safe, just like the procedure.

reply from: sander

It no longer stands for the Christian principles it once did.

reply from: sander

They don't walk the talk anymore.
They can say anything, it's what they DO that speaks loudest.

reply from: carolemarie

You fool. No one is seeking to agitate. I am not interested in engaging anyone there unless approached. Yep- pro-abort confrontation- like cars almost hitting others and shotguns being pulled.. Pro-aborts are so violent. It is not safe.
I have rarely experienced any trouble at the clinics. Obviously, it depends on what you are doing, or saying to people seeking abortions, but if you really care about them, they respond well to that, and women do change their minds. If you go, take a video camera that records that you are peacefully obeying the law and don't go alone if you can help it. Jesus sent us out two by two for a reason.
Mostly it is boring, long periods of nothing. But it is great for praying and focusing on God! When He shows up out there, lives are changed!
If someone is mad and upset, pray for them and respond gently to them, generally they calm down and start talking to you. If they are screaming and being over the top, just pray for them, and shut your mouth and let God deal with them.
Blessings,

reply from: yoda

Same here.
Sound advice, indeed.
Long periods of boredom, punctuated by brief moments of terror... sometimes.
We get a screamer once in a while, and generally I just stand and stare them down. No point in getting in a shouting match, really. So far, they've all been just a lot of hot air, none of them has actually approached me. But I'll be ready if they do.

reply from: 4given

Thank you Carole. I appreciate every bit of advice and experience I can get. I surely do not plan to go alone. Where two or more are gathered in Christ's Name, He is as well. I plan to pray more than anything until God leads me elsewhere. I have much to learn, and I appreciate the help and encouragement with that!

reply from: Teresa18

You fool. No one is seeking to agitate. I am not interested in engaging anyone there unless approached. Yep- pro-abort confrontation- like cars almost hitting others and shotguns being pulled.. Pro-aborts are so violent. It is not safe.
Are you trying to burst joeravecfou's bubble?
She thinks proaborts are sane and safe, just like the procedure.
Check out this site or Pro "Choice" Violence.
http://abortionviolence.com/

reply from: sander

Wow, that was an eye opener!

reply from: Teresa18

Yep. There is so much information in there including murders by abortionists, violence in general, details on violence by state, etc. Showw them the site next time pro-aborts harass you about violent pro-lifers.

reply from: yoda

That's a good resource, and a good response. Another good one is to say "Yes, I am so violent they have to hide the cereal boxes at my house to keep me from being a cereal killer..... but what does that have to do with the morality of killing babies?"

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

I copied all the couples (three) listed for the state of Tennessee, and handed them out at the abortuary this morning. We rarely get a chance to talk to the "customers", but sometimes when we do it might be helpful to be able to show them the names and photos of couples and families wanting to adopt in this state.
And we can answer any of them who yell at us and say: "Well are YOU going to adopt this child if I don't abort?" Most of use are too old to be considered adoptive parents anyway, but we can put them in contact with people who are already pre-screened.
Check out the website..... it might be more productive that engaging in this ongoing brawl between prolifers here.

reply from: 4given

A fabulous idea! I so value your input and experience! Thank you!

reply from: yoda

I do hope all prolifers will get behind this effort, and spread the word far and wide. And it would be nice to hear from more of them on this thread.

reply from: yoda

Not gonna let this one slip away........ no sir.....

reply from: nancyu

I liked some things about the movie "Bella"
Bella was adorable. It was a good pro-adoption movie.

reply from: yoda

Yes it was. And it is just one of those movies that leave you feeling good about the world, at least until you get out of the theater....

reply from: sander

Teddybear is NOT a plant, I know that for a fact.
I also know, for a fact, that some people who see the horrid pictures of these aborted babies turn on the spot.
So, while you're congratulating yourself of how superior your tactics are, someone did indeed change their minds.
Smugness is such a bore.

reply from: yoda

Did you not get the memo? We want the baby killers to think that they are winning........

reply from: sander

Did you not get the memo? We want the baby killers to think that they are winning........
I got it, but I put it thru the shredder!

reply from: Faramir

How do you know that for a fact (that she is not a plant)?

reply from: sander

Sorry, "sunshine," but I'm not buying it...
Are you so cynical and smug that you don't think anyone has ever come here and turned their views around? Do you think it's even possible to change?
You are wrong, but if you want to persist in believing Teddybear is a plant, have at it. It'll make the proaborts all the happier.

reply from: sander

I'm not going to get in a discussion on what Faithman asserts, he's capable of engaging you on that, if he wishes. But, I think your dislike of Faithman is clouding your objectivity.
Whatever anyone asserts doesn't take away from the fact that people do change their minds and often it can be traced back to "seeing" what abortion does to a baby.
Such was the case with Teddy.
So, go ahead a believe what you want, am I stopping you in any way?

reply from: Faramir

But how do you "know for a FACT"?

reply from: prolifeman

That's wonderful news that she converted. How do you know that for a fact, though?

reply from: nancyu

Probably the same way she knows for a fact who you are prolifeman.

reply from: carolemarie

Teddybear was never prochoice. She had her baby, she was not seek an abortion with the one she is carrying now.
She was unhappy and miserable and posted here to vent.
I am glad she got some support and help. But this girl wasn't prochoice.
I really think there are basically only two kinds of women. Those who could never go through with an abortion and those who could.
On the termination board, you hear women all the time claim they are prolife, but they can't have this baby, they set up the termination and at the last minute they change their mind, because they ARE prolife, in spite of being upset and mad and all that.

reply from: yoda

Having a baby does not make you prolife, nor does it keep you from being prochoice. What makes you prochoice is supporting the legal right to elective abortion, which she did at first.
pro-choice adjective advocating access to legal abortion: advocating open legal access to voluntary abortion http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/pro-choice.html

reply from: 4given

My understanding.. that and the "I wouldn't personally, but they have a real need to abort.."

reply from: sander

Teddybear came here believing in the right to abortion and frustrated that her mother didn't allow it.
No doubt, she has a tender heart towards the defensless, but to make a proclamation that she was never pro-choice is at the very least presumtious.
Why not let her speak for herself?

reply from: yoda

Oh, they have a myriad number of ways of washing their hands of the 50 million babies killed, while still supporting that slaughter. They remind me of the story of Pilate washing his hands of the "Jesus controversy", while still supplying the soldiers to carry out the execution.

reply from: sander

Oh, they have a myriad number of ways of washing their hands of the 50 million babies killed, while still supporting that slaughter. They remind me of the story of Pilate washing his hands of the "Jesus controversy", while still supplying the soldiers to carry out the execution.
Good anaology!

reply from: ProInformed

It has been my experience that any pro-choicer who turns pro-life, whether they change quickly or gradually, will be accused by other pro-choicers of being one or more of the following:
fictional, an anti-abortion plant, brainwashed, fake, etc.
I have personally witnessed people who were pro-choice becoming pro-life in a matter of minutes after viewing photos of aborted babies. I wish I could say it happened every time somebody was shown such evidence... but I suspect that even if they don't change away from supporting abortion right away it does plant a pro-life seed for many that will at least weaken their defense of abortion.
I think since most choicers have different secret reasons for defending abortion than the ones they chant aloud, it usually takes a while for most to change thier POV. I think the reason they sometimes get really angry when they see the photos of aborted babies is because they know their real reasons for defednign abortion are relatively flimsy and they're dismayed to find out that abortion really IS as bad as the pro-lifers say it is, that their pro-abort excuses pale by comparison.
It's pretty easy to chant pro-abort slogans when you can pass yourself off as pro-woman, compassionate, responsible, etc. It really angers some of them to be stripped of the pretense of being for something good.

reply from: sander

I've also witnessed proaborts turn on a dime when they saw the pictures of aborted babies. They don't say "a picture is worth a thousand words" for no reason.
And that's why the proaborts are constantly trying to convince others that the pictures are doctored. It's their worse nightmare to have the truth exposed in full color!

reply from: yoda

You got it. And the best response is always "Okay, if these are fake, where are the "real ones"?
Silence is usually the only response.

reply from: nancyu

Well, well, well. This is VERRRy interesting CM. You have told me that you are pro life, but that you used to be rabidly pro choice. Have you changed? Can people change or are there just two kinds of people as you say?
Is an unborn child a person?

reply from: carolemarie

Well, well, well. This is VERRRy interesting CM. You have told me that you are pro life, but that you used to be rabidly pro choice. Have you changed? Can people change or are there just two kinds of people as you say?
Is an unborn child a person?
TBH was prolife, just didn't know it. She never would have had an abortion. She was just mad.
I was prochoice. And I acted on those beliefs.
Then years later God changed me, I was born again and became prolife. But it took a heart transplant to make that change. So two kinds of people. And it requires a heart transplant to turn a pro choicer into a prolifer. I am not who I was. That girl is dead and I am a new person in Christ.

reply from: teddybearhamster

actually i don't know what i would have done at the time. i am however happy now that i didn't have an abortion. if given the chance to go back i would have chosen adoption(and found a way out of my mothers home because that was not a good enviorment).

reply from: yoda

That is NOT what defines a prochoicer. Supporting legal abortion is what defines them..... unless you are writing your own dictionary.

reply from: nancyu

Well, well, well. This is VERRRy interesting CM. You have told me that you are pro life, but that you used to be rabidly pro choice. Have you changed? Can people change or are there just two kinds of people as you say?
Is an unborn child a person?
TBH was prolife, just didn't know it. She never would have had an abortion. She was just mad. (how do you know this for a fact?)
I was prochoice. And I acted on those beliefs.
Then years later God changed me, I was born again and became prolife. But it took a heart transplant to make that change. So two kinds of people. And it requires a heart transplant to turn a pro choicer into a prolifer. I am not who I was. That girl is dead and I am a new person in Christ.
You know, you gave a real gift for evading questions that might make you look bad. I'm guessing you are studying political science.
You haven't quite cleared up my confusion about this statement
Only two kinds of women?? How do you know TBH didn't have the same kind of heart transplant that you supposedly did? (or do you mean that you physically had a heart transplant?)
I'll answer the next question for you since you keep having a hard time with it.
Is an unborn child a person?
Yes, an unborn child is a person. (practice that in the mirror, it will get easier)

reply from: carolemarie

You had the baby, and your mom is raising him, and you are raising your daughter right?
You already know what you did. And you acted prolife because a crisis reveals our true core values. Be glad yours are prolife.

reply from: teddybearhamster

i am pro life now but i haven't always felt that way. at that time if my mom had let me, i'm not proud to say this, i probably would have gone through with an abortion. i am glad i didn't but i would have given him up for adoption. i still maintain that would have been the best choice.

reply from: carolemarie

Well, well, well. This is VERRRy interesting CM. You have told me that you are pro life, but that you used to be rabidly pro choice. Have you changed? Can people change or are there just two kinds of people as you say?
Is an unborn child a person?
TBH was prolife, just didn't know it. She never would have had an abortion. She was just mad. (how do you know this for a fact?)
I was prochoice. And I acted on those beliefs.
Then years later God changed me, I was born again and became prolife. But it took a heart transplant to make that change. So two kinds of people. And it requires a heart transplant to turn a pro choicer into a prolifer. I am not who I was. That girl is dead and I am a new person in Christ.
You know, you gave a real gift for evading questions that might make you look bad. I'm guessing you are studying political science.
You haven't quite cleared up my confusion about this statement
Only two kinds of women?? How do you know TBH didn't have the same kind of heart transplant that you supposedly did? (or do you mean that you physically had a heart transplant?)
I'll answer the next question for you since you keep having a hard time with it.
Is an unborn child a person?
Yes, an unborn child is a person. (practice that in the mirror, it will get easier)
Let me rephrase it for you since it is confusing you.
2 kinds of people.
I am not referring to having a prochoice position or a prolife position.
There are two kinds of women, those who can have an abortion and those who can't.
TBH is one who can't. And she didn't.
I was one who could. And did.
It takes a heart transplant to turn the latter into the former.
I never have said an unborn child isn't a person.

reply from: carolemarie

That is NOT what defines a prochoicer. Supporting legal abortion is what defines them..... unless you are writing your own dictionary.
I said two kinds of women those who could go through with an abortion and those who couldn't. I wasn't talking about their words, it was about there actions.

reply from: yoda

And you tried to use that to say that she was "never prochoice".
Whether or not a woman would kill her own baby is NOT the determining factor as to whether she is "prochoice". Whether or not she supports the legal status of elective abortion IS that factor.

reply from: carolemarie

i am pro life now but i haven't always felt that way. at that time if my mom had let me, i'm not proud to say this, i probably would have gone through with an abortion. i am glad i didn't but i would have given him up for adoption. i still maintain that would have been the best choice.
If you had really wanted an abortion, you could have gotten one whether your mom was for it or against it. You didn't . It's not about our feelings, it boils down to your actions. You chose to do what was harder and right. Talking prochoice isn't the same as being prolife.

reply from: carolemarie

And you tried to use that to say that she was "never prochoice".
Whether or not a woman would kill her own baby is NOT the determining factor as to whether she is "prochoice". Whether or not she supports the legal status of elective abortion IS that factor.
HMMMM yes it is. If everyone said they were prochoice, but wouldn't act on that belief then I would be okay with that.
I don't care what you claim to believe as much as I care about what you choose to do. People will say all kinds of things, but what they do is what matters.

reply from: yoda

Just saying that IS "acting" on it. Everything we say in public can affect how someone else sees things. That's how public opinion forms and changes sometimes. Our words ARE a form of action.
That's a terrible oversimplification. What if someone stood up in a crowded theater and yelled "FIRE"? What if someone incited a race riot? What if someone yelled "babykiller" at a couple going into an abortuary? Would none of that matter?

reply from: nancyu

Well, well, well. This is VERRRy interesting CM. You have told me that you are pro life, but that you used to be rabidly pro choice. Have you changed? Can people change or are there just two kinds of people as you say?
Is an unborn child a person?
TBH was prolife, just didn't know it. She never would have had an abortion. She was just mad. (how do you know this for a fact?)
I was prochoice. And I acted on those beliefs.
Then years later God changed me, I was born again and became prolife. But it took a heart transplant to make that change. So two kinds of people. And it requires a heart transplant to turn a pro choicer into a prolifer. I am not who I was. That girl is dead and I am a new person in Christ.
You know, you gave a real gift for evading questions that might make you look bad. I'm guessing you are studying political science.
You haven't quite cleared up my confusion about this statement
Only two kinds of women?? How do you know TBH didn't have the same kind of heart transplant that you supposedly did? (or do you mean that you physically had a heart transplant?)
I'll answer the next question for you since you keep having a hard time with it.
Is an unborn child a person?
Yes, an unborn child is a person. (practice that in the mirror, it will get easier)
Let me rephrase it for you since it is confusing you.
2 kinds of people.
I am not referring to having a prochoice position or a prolife position.
There are two kinds of women, those who can have an abortion and those who can't.
TBH is one who can't. And she didn't.
I was one who could. And did.
It takes a heart transplant to turn the latter into the former.
I never have said an unborn child isn't a person.
Carolemarie, is an unborn child a person?

reply from: teddybearhamster

i am pro life now but i haven't always felt that way. at that time if my mom had let me, i'm not proud to say this, i probably would have gone through with an abortion. i am glad i didn't but i would have given him up for adoption. i still maintain that would have been the best choice.
If you had really wanted an abortion, you could have gotten one whether your mom was for it or against it. You didn't . It's not about our feelings, it boils down to your actions. You chose to do what was harder and right. Talking prochoice isn't the same as being prolife.
actually no i couldn't have. you don't know that situation. i also used to support my best friends decision but i can't do that anymore.

reply from: carolemarie

Good for you. You were the easiest convert in the world. One look at a picture and all the years of being hardcore prochoice melted away.

reply from: 4given

Carole- it is apparent you have issues outside of your willful participation on this board. Are you somehow critical of TBH because she wasn't hardcore enough to follow through with an abortion and join the mob of angry, grieved and hopefully regretful women that did?

reply from: faithman

Whats the big whoop? It mocked God by killing 3, now it mocks us for helping a young woman to change her mind about the abortion issue. I guess the pro-choice years of of CM haven't completely melted away yet. That would explain alot.

reply from: carolemarie

Of course not! I keep saying she isn't prochoice and wasn't. She talked prochoice but she is a good person with a good heart and wouldn't have chosen do actually have an abortion. I like her.

reply from: carolemarie

Whats the big whoop? It mocked God by killing 3, now it mocks us for helping a young woman to change her mind about the abortion issue. I guess the pro-choice years of of CM haven't completely melted away yet. That would explain alot.
Thats must be it. I must be prochoice and the last 13 years I was confused.

reply from: carolemarie

i am pro life now but i haven't always felt that way. at that time if my mom had let me, i'm not proud to say this, i probably would have gone through with an abortion. i am glad i didn't but i would have given him up for adoption. i still maintain that would have been the best choice.
If you had really wanted an abortion, you could have gotten one whether your mom was for it or against it. You didn't . It's not about our feelings, it boils down to your actions. You chose to do what was harder and right. Talking prochoice isn't the same as being prolife.
actually no i couldn't have. you don't know that situation. i also used to support my best friends decision but i can't do that anymore.
. I am glad that you changed your mind and are now prolife. I didn't mean to insult you. I am sorry if I hurt your feelings. I am glad that your prolife and it is pretty great that it took so little. I wish everyone was as easy to convince as you were..

reply from: teddybearhamster

i'm open to learning that which i don't know. it was more that one picture i saw too. it was many along with some gruesome video footage too. before i was probably like kay and a lot of other pro choicers, ignorance is bliss. i didn't want to face what it really was because when i did there was no question about it.

reply from: yoda

So now being a good person eliminates you from the ranks of "prochoice"?
They are all "bad people"?

reply from: carolemarie

I will take her word for it.
I have apologized if I hurt her feelings.

reply from: yoda

Are all prochoicers "bad people"?

reply from: 4given

Have you continued to bring the profiles with you? How did people react to them? To you? This is a really great idea.

reply from: yoda

Yes, and I have passed out copies to everyone. So far the information for my state has not changed, but when and if it does I'll make new copies to pass out. Everyone has reacted very positively to it.

reply from: 4given

Please update when anything happens. I am sure that there are women that don't understand how to go about the process and fear the "work" involved. Bless you for doing this. I know there are so many people waiting on a baby to call their own. I am sure if they could- they would thank you for your efforts as well. Thanks from them.

reply from: yoda

Can't let this slip away.......

reply from: yoda

Can't let this one get away....

reply from: DanielCordell

Can someone elaborate on the difference between a "referal clinic" and "Planned Parenthood"?

reply from: yoda

To the best of my knowledge, PP does not refer anyone to an adoption agency.

reply from: nancyu

I was happy to learn that "Wendy's" supports adoption and pro life causes. (hope you don't mind me changing the subject)

reply from: galen

and even us vegie lovers can eat there... salads baked potato...

reply from: sander

Thanks for sharing that, Nancy!
Now I know there's at least one fast food place that my money won't be going to support the death of babies!

reply from: yoda

I didn't know that either..... but I've always liked their roast beef sandwiches...

reply from: nancyu

Thanks for sharing that, Nancy!
Now I know there's at least one fast food place that my money won't be going to support the death of babies!
Thank galen for posting it in the Happy Father's Day thread.
Thanks galen!

reply from: yoda

Slip slidin away.......

reply from: sander

If we could just apply that to the proaborts.
Come on Mark, can't we sharpen our skills some other way?

reply from: yoda

Well I can't speak for Mark or anyone else, but I'm afraid there is no less painful way to confront the baby killing.
It takes a strong stomach and a resilient spirit to endure it, but that's a small sacrifice compared to what unborn babies go through. They are the ones on the "sharp end".

reply from: sander

Okay, then let's apply the "ole boot" to the proaborts in a general way....as if to boot them off into outer space. I'm sure there are aliens out there somewhere that need to hear their stomach wrenching rhetoric.
Oh wait, that might not be an argument from "silence"....I'll get back to ya.

reply from: faithman

I am glad the borties, and "pro-lifers" like CM post here. It shows us why we must continue to fight. They come here and expose why they are SSSSSOOOOO teribly wrong. It is about personhood of the womb child. And we need to quit calling it a war if we are not willing to defend the womb child from evil aggression. A "war of words" is meaningless to those who are being slaughtered everyday.

reply from: LolitaOlivia

You know, I think I'm going to try and contact some of those couples and let them know you're using their names and information without their permission.

reply from: faithman

When you make something public, permission is not required. Besides, those who so desperately want a child, would not object to free advertisement.

reply from: yoda

When you make something public, permission is not required. Besides, those who so desperately want a child, would not object to free advertisement.
Wow.... that's almost unreal...... just to spite us, Lowlita wants to make us stop advertising the adoption site.... and by extension, ruin the chances of some future babies to be adopted.
Can you imagine the vile, toxic emotions that would motivate someone to do that?

reply from: LolitaOlivia

When you make something public, permission is not required. Besides, those who so desperately want a child, would not object to free advertisement.
Wow.... that's almost unreal...... just to spite us, Lowlita wants to make us stop advertising the adoption site.... and by extension, ruin the chances of some future babies to be adopted.
Can you imagine the vile, toxic emotions that would motivate someone to do that?
How do you know some of those couples aren't pro-choice and that they all wouldn't object to you using their names and information to harass women? I really couldn't care less if someone gives up their baby or not, what bothers me is you harassing women who seek abortions and cause them undo stress. That's what I object to.

reply from: Teresa18

The pro-aborts would would rather the child get aborted than have the chance the mother might be bothered on her way into the killing center with life-saving adoption information.
Go ahead and call. Yoda is merely distributing public information. Adoption is not an easy process, and I'm sure these couples like getting their name out there so they can get a child.

reply from: yoda

AMEN, Teresa....... well said!

reply from: sander

It's kind of fun watching all the hand wrenching going on....why, they'll save these poor couples who desperately want a child.....from a child.
True colors, eh?

reply from: RiverMoonLady

Wow, that was an eye opener!
I checked this website and this was the FIRST entry for the city where I work:
"Harrisburg
First-Degree Murder (4 counts), Attempted Murder (2 counts), Rape (4 counts), Kidnapping (6 counts) and Attempted Rape (2 counts) [Steelton]
Joseph Daniel Miller didn't like women - especially minority women - and he showed his hatred in the most extreme manner possible. He was, as his prosecutors said, a "cagey, sophisticated serial killer." He told a detective that he abducted, raped and murdered only minority women because if he targeted "white debutantes," police would have put much more effort into catching him.
He began by kidnapping, raping and murdering 18-year-old high school student Selina Franklin on May 16, 1987. Then he did the same to Stephanie McDuffey, who was eight months pregnant, on November 6, 1989. He buried them both in shallow graves in a Swatara Township landfill. Then, on January 11, 1990, he kidnapped, raped and murdered Jeanette Thomas after spending time with her at an Allison Hill bar. In February 1990, he kidnapped, raped and murdered Kathi Novena Shenck and buried her body in a Perry County dump.
On June 30, 1992, he attempted to rape another woman, but she resisted him, and he became frustrated. He stabbed her in the head 25 times with a screwdriver and left her for dead. Just a week later, he kidnapped a sixth woman and was in the middle of trying to rape and murder her, but a security officer interrupted him. He ran to his home in Steelton, and kept police at bay for six hours before finally surrendering. He then led detectives to the graves of Selina and Stephanie.
A jury convicted Miller of murder in the case of Kathi Novena Shenck and Jeanette Thomas, and sentenced him to life in prison.
On March 24, 1993, a second jury convicted Miller of two counts of first-degree murder and two counts of kidnapping in the killings of Selina Franklin and Stephanie McDuffey. Following a sentencing hearing, the jury sentenced Miller to death. Dauphin County Judge Jeannine Turgeon later vacated Miller's death sentence, and he will spend the rest of his life in prison.
While almost completely ignoring his victims, anti-death penalty activists tried to play on the sympathy of the public to save Miller's life. His half-sister said "He doesn't want to die, but he's afraid to live," referring to the conditions of his life on death row.
References: Commonwealth of Pennsylvania v. Joseph Daniel Miller, 664 A.2d 1310 (Pa. 1995); Commonwealth of Pennsylvania v. Joseph Daniel Miller, Appeal from the Order of the Court of Common Pleas of Dauphin County, dated December 17, 2002 at Nos. 2775 and 2787 C.D. 1992, submitted August 20, 2003; The Patriot-News, August 24, 2007."
Is this crime considered "Pro-Choice Violence" because one of the victims was pregnant? It sounds like the pregnancy had NOTHING to do with the murder, so I'm really confused why it's on the website.
BTW, I believe the death penalty is appropriate for serial killers.

reply from: RiverMoonLady

The website "parentprofiles.com" leads me to an error message from Internet Explorer. Does the site still exist?

reply from: yoda

Yes, it does...... apparently you have a bad url or a bad browser.
http://www.parentprofiles.com/

reply from: yoda

I know what one person's laugh from Tennessee sounds like....

reply from: yoda

That's it....... all us Tennesseeans have taken them off the hook and started our big 4th celebration early!!

reply from: galen

hey yoda...
do you think your clinic will close for the 4th?
i've heard that because its friday some in our area are going ahead and seeing patients and staying closed monday and tuesday instead...to better serve thier customer base who are off work on frisay saturday..

reply from: yoda

Actually, I don't know..... I'll call someone tomorrow and see if I can find out.

reply from: LolitaOlivia

I don't "take pleasure" in denying anyone anything. I wish those couples the best in finding a child. I just think they should be made aware that their names and information are being used by a radical like yodavatar.

reply from: 4given

It is my understanding that he has them printed out for couples that are about to have their child aborted. It is a difficult decision for many to make, and I am sure that some couples that are contemplating abortion do so because they don't understand what is involved with adoption. It takes a substantial amount of time and (often money) to be granted a home study completion. Fire inspections, health inspection, physicals, mental and health exams, FBI checks, state criminal background checks. 20+ hours of training- that expire in 20 months.. usually while the parents are waiting. Regardless of how you feel towards Yoda, he is offering what may be the only hope these couples have of becoming a parent. It is a show of your true character that you would try to take that away from them. The couples that have their profiles listed do so because they want the public to read them. They are published solely because they want their information to reach whomever will pass it on to an expectant mother.

reply from: LolitaOlivia

If they don't mind what he's doing, why didn't he ask permission? And even if they want their information getting out by any means possible, they might not want people associating them with yoda and his website. From what I understand more than a few pro-lifers are disturbed by what he does.

reply from: sander

What part of, they want the public to read them, don't you get? He's reaching out to save lives, it's not surprising that you would find that a wretched thing to do, and those "pro-lifers" you speak of are most likely made up in your head.
Nobody who is for life would object to saving lives in this perfectly legal and acceptable manner.

reply from: LolitaOlivia

No, he's using peoples' names without their knowledge while he's harassing women who are simply exercising their right to choose. The thing people seem to dislike about yoda and his site is that he invades the privacy of anyone who enters the women's clinic he photographs outside of.

reply from: galen

i have nver seen yoda post a name...

reply from: LolitaOlivia

He admitted to doing it to "witness for adoption" in his words. Have you ever seen his website?

reply from: sander

No, he's using peoples' names without their knowledge while he's harassing women who are simply exercising their right to choose. The thing people seem to dislike about yoda and his site is that he invades the privacy of anyone who enters the women's clinic he photographs outside of.
NOTHING he is doing is illegal. NOTHING.
So, you're just using this as an excuse to attack that which is good, nothing new there, not a thing.

reply from: galen

adoptive parents.. oh sorry i thought you were talking about the moms...
i hardley think that anyone who wants to adopt will object... i'm sure that if they do they will let him know.. he's hardley a secret.

reply from: sander

Not only is not a secret, THEY post their own names.
Some people just have to make a stir.

reply from: 4given

We (my spouse and I )filled put an extensive profile for a special needs person. My brother is Down Syndrome. I have experience and training with many disabilities. The state's requirements are somewhat challenging to most ppl- Given the regulations in homes.. accessability etc. Part of posting a profile is an agreement that your "Profile (including photographs,age,family history, status) has been submitted and may be used for any purpose at any time. Any use of this profile and its information is not prohibited by law. All information provided to **** is therefore the property of (the organization). "
So it was at the prospective parents request that their information was publicized. You don't know how painful it is to desire a baby, a child.. parenthood- only to see another person throw it all away. It is devastating. Sander- you think they will be laughing. Truth is they will be angry and saddened. Especially if they knew the instigator of such disappointment was a girl that flushed her own baby down the drain for convenience and selfish reasons. I hurt for them!

reply from: sander

No, I know they wont be laughing, 4Given. I was trying to make a point with someone so stiff necked that it's mind numbing.
Yes, these couples are desperate, I know somewhat how they feel. It took us nearly 3 years to become pregnant, we were just beginning to discuss the idea of adoption, so thank God He saw fit to bless us with our own child.

reply from: 4given

I can't help but to ache for them... understanding how in this life- so very much is taken for granted. I know a woman who had an abortion and because of complications, was never able to conceive again. She lost a lot of money on her promised child from Russia. She adopted from Romania finally, but by the time it all went through- the newborn she/they were waiting on was 19 months old. Anyone that sees life as a joke and an inconvenience, should be pained by the sorrow that a barren mother and father feel! It is the most selfish and despicable thing one can do. Anyone that takes this struggle lightly, should be faced with that pain!

reply from: sander

To even entertain the idea of interferring with these couples and the babies that would be saved should keep any normal, feeling person awake night after night.

reply from: 4given

Hats off to you Yoda for possibly bringing the blessing of a baby to a barren couple- And also for saving a woman from the pain and regret of abortion- And sparing a little life from a violent death and a resting place in a landfill somewhere with garbage. This is a great idea. When I am more comfortable, I will also do the same in my state.

reply from: yoda

Thanks! Did you notice that our posts appeared at the same time?
Your mention of landfills reminds me of something that two of my fellow protesters say to the customers: "If you go through with an abortion, you baby will have a landfill or a sewer for a gravesite". And one woman, upon hearing that, actually changed her mind and let her child live.

reply from: 4given

Who knew that the idea of another child's life being spared from abortion was so bothersome- that one would try to sabotage adoption efforts!

reply from: 4given

That shows that some of these confused women- do have a conscience in the matter. There was a case here where countless bodies were found at the dump. Efforts were made to have the bodies collected for a proper burial. After months in the court and elsewhere- those little lives were lost. They had their service- but it was at the dump- where they forever remain.

reply from: sander

That shows that some of these confused women- do have a conscience in the matter. There was a case here where countless bodies were found at the dump. Efforts were made to have the bodies collected for a proper burial. After months in the court and elsewhere- those little lives were lost. They had their service- but it was at the dump- where they forever remain.
Months in the court, equaled service at the dump....proves the insane are in charge.
There's just no defense for something like this to happen.

reply from: yoda

It's the kind of moral collapse that can doom a society, IMO.

reply from: sander

It's the kind of moral collapse that can doom a society, IMO.
Your opinion is sound.
There was just no excuse for this to happen. The babies were discarded in the improper manner (like there could be a proper one outside a burial) and for those who wanted to show respect to be denied is utterly unconscionable.

reply from: LolitaOlivia

They rarely are. Regulations for disposal of medical waste make it pretty difficult for any fetal remains to end up getting taken out with the trash if the clinic in question wants to stay open for long.

reply from: faithman

How can a blob of tissue have a body? Just who's bodies are you talking about. You don't mean little womb persons do you?

reply from: yoda

Wait.... let me guess...... you think that would be "unsanitary", right?

reply from: LolitaOlivia

Wait.... let me guess...... you think that would be "unsanitary", right?
More like illegal.

reply from: faithman

Wait.... let me guess...... you think that would be "unsanitary", right?
More like illegal.
How can a blob of tissue have a body? Just who's bodies are you talking about. You don't mean little womb persons do you?

reply from: LolitaOlivia

Wait.... let me guess...... you think that would be "unsanitary", right?
More like illegal.
How can a blob of tissue have a body? Just who's bodies are you talking about. You don't mean little womb persons do you?
No. They aren't people. Yes, I'll admit there's something resembling a body, though it cannot sustain itself like an animal could.

reply from: galen

Wait.... let me guess...... you think that would be "unsanitary", right?
More like illegal.
How can a blob of tissue have a body? Just who's bodies are you talking about. You don't mean little womb persons do you?
No. They aren't people. Yes, I'll admit there's something resembling a body, though it cannot sustain itself like an animal could.
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go re read the history... in some dumpsters those were 21+ week children... they could have lived had they been in hospital...
how far along are you?

reply from: LolitaOlivia

Wait.... let me guess...... you think that would be "unsanitary", right?
More like illegal.
How can a blob of tissue have a body? Just who's bodies are you talking about. You don't mean little womb persons do you?
No. They aren't people. Yes, I'll admit there's something resembling a body, though it cannot sustain itself like an animal could.
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go re read the history... in some dumpsters those were 21+ week children... they could have lived had they been in hospital...
how far along are you?
Perhaps, but they weren't and I'd bet they were all dead before they left the womb anyway. Otherwise the doctor could face all kinds of issues and most doctors aren't that stupid. And they still couldn't sustain themselves, they'd have to be put on a machine right away. If they were born naturally at home like that they would've died on their own.
And I'm 24 weeks now. Having a girl, we think...

reply from: faithman

How can a non person clump of cells have a body? What difference does it make how blobs of tissue are desposed of?

reply from: faithman

I'm plenty grown up, gally.
Poor kid. Don't you know that your thoughts release chemicals into your system? Negative Thoughts and emotions release negative chemicals that can have very harmful effects on you physically. The same is true for the "little one" [fetus in latin] you carry. One should not drink or smoke while pregnant. But you continue to indulge in such negative behavior is bombarding your womb child with negative chemicals. If you really cared about the child that is growing inside you, then you would be careful about what you eat and drink, and you would not be entertaining the thoughts of murder you have exhibited on this forum. One day that child maybe the watcher of your IV bottle. Now how quickly do you think the plug will be pulled by someone who has been saturated by the chemicals of your thinking? I would say it will be more of a reflex, than a discission. As much as we don't like to think about it, we all grow old, and walk into the mist of death. One of the few things that endure to remind the world that we were here is our posterity, our children. How sad it is for some to leave this earth, and the only thing to remind the world of your time here, is evil people who were maranated in the chemicals of spite and murder while in the womb.

reply from: galen

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just so people looking at this last page don't give up.. here is what the thread was originally about... and a good idea too!

reply from: sander

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just so people looking at this last page don't give up.. here is what the thread was originally about... and a good idea too!

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: "http://www.parentprofiles.com ..
I copied all the couples (three) listed for the state of Tennessee, and handed them out at the abortuary this morning. We rarely get a chance to talk to the "customers", but sometimes when we do it might be helpful to be able to show them the names and photos of couples and families wanting to adopt in this state.
And we can answer any of them who yell at us and say: "Well are YOU going to adopt this child if I don't abort?" Most of use are too old to be considered adoptive parents anyway, but we can put them in contact with people who are already pre-screened.
Check out the website..... it might be more productive that engaging in this ongoing brawl between prolifers here.

reply from: 4given

God Bless Yoda! And may He also bless the barren wombs with a family through his dedication and efforts!

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: "http://www.parentprofiles.com [/a]
I copied all the couples (three) listed for the state of Tennessee, and handed them out at the abortuary this morning. We rarely get a chance to talk to the "customers", but sometimes when we do it might be helpful to be able to show them the names and photos of couples and families wanting to adopt in this state.
And we can answer any of them who yell at us and say: "Well are YOU going to adopt this child if I don't abort?" Most of use are too old to be considered adoptive parents anyway, but we can put them in contact with people who are already pre-screened.

reply from: sander

Don't worry, bail is on the way! Lowlifelita has been fund raising, since that was better than eating crow.

reply from: yoda

What..... I'm depending on lowlife to bail me out?
I want a lawyer!!

reply from: faithman

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j214/yodavater/IamaPerson2.jpg

reply from: faithman

You have missed my numerous posts that say I provide them for free. Feel free to try. But you being a stupid pro-death skanc, I really doubt you could produce anything nearly as effective.
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1840/fetuscopysz9.jpg
I LIKE IT!!!! Think I will email it around.

reply from: LolitaOlivia

^ I thought you might, though I didn't expect you'd admit it. That took me all of two minutes! Either you're really lazy when it comes to making your signs, or you don't know the first thing about photoshop (or whatever cheap knock-off you've been using).

reply from: faithman

Why should I work hard when I am smart enough to get borties to do my work for me?

reply from: faithman

Why should I work hard when I am smart enough to get borties to do my work for me?
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1840/fetuscopysz9.jpg

reply from: LolitaOlivia

Why should I work hard when I am smart enough to get borties to do my work for me?
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1840/fetuscopysz9.jpg
You can't use that, you know. You don't have copyright.

reply from: sander

Lowlife, do you ever tire of making an ass out of yourself?
Shouldn't you grow up, find a job, do something contructive?
You're a laughing stock here and yet you just keep coming back....attention starved....you must weigh 5 lbs.

reply from: LolitaOlivia

I'm pregnant. Why the hell should I be working? Besides, I don't get my degree 'till next year and the only work you can get without one is working at McDonald's or at a brothel.

reply from: sander

I'm pregnant. Why the hell should I be working? Besides, I don't get my degree 'till next year and the only work you can get without one is working at McDonald's or at a brothel.
Plenty of women work while they're pregnant, is that a news flash? Apparently you're one of those weak women who can't do two things at once?
Your mental problems are that severe and you look down on women that much that McDonalds and brothels are their only other choices? You're the worse kind of anti-woman, your mother did a poor job.

reply from: LolitaOlivia

I'm aware that there are women who work during pregnancy, but I imagine most of them wouldn't do it if they didn't need to. I don't need to.
It has nothing to do with mental problems or looking down at women. It's just that that's the only kind of work I could easily find now (what with no experience or degree) and it's not really my cup of tea. I don't look down on women with those jobs, not in the least. If you want to serve fries or have sex with men for money, go right ahead, that's your choice. It's just not my choice.
And how is me not wanting that type of job "anti-woman" or a sign my mother did a bad job?

reply from: yoda

I think lowlita is actually a teen or pre-teen age boy, trying to find a cheap thrill on the internet...

reply from: faithman

Why should I work hard when I am smart enough to get borties to do my work for me?
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1840/fetuscopysz9.jpg
You can't use that, you know. You don't have copyright.
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/1840/fetuscopysz9.jpg But its SSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOO cute. I just love it.

reply from: LolitaOlivia

I think lowlita is actually a teen or pre-teen age boy, trying to find a cheap thrill on the internet...
Last time I checked, still female. Sorry.

reply from: sander

I think lowlita is actually a teen or pre-teen age boy, trying to find a cheap thrill on the internet...
I wouldn't be surprised. Nobody acts the way this one does and has an ounce of maturity or self respect.

reply from: yoda

Where oh where is lowlita when we need her to bump this thread????

reply from: LolitaOlivia

Hear the sound of the falling rain
Coming down like an Armageddon flame
The shame
The ones who died without a name
Hear the dogs howling out of key
To a hymn called "Faith and Misery"
And bleed, the company lost the war today
I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies
This is the dawning of the rest of our lives
On holiday
Hear the drum pounding out of time
Another protester has crossed the line
To find, the money's on the other side
Can I get another Amen?
There's a flag wrapped around a score of men
A gag, a plastic bag on a monument
I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies
This is the dawning of the rest of our lives
On holiday
"The representative from California has the floor"
Sieg Heil to the president Gasman
Bombs away is your punishment
Pulverize the Eiffel towers
Who criticize your government
Bang bang goes the broken glass and
Kill all the fags that don't agree
Trials by fire, setting fire
Is not a way that's meant for me
Just cause, just cause, because we're outlaws yeah!
I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies
This is the dawning of the rest of our lives
I beg to dream and differ from the hollow lies
This is the dawning of the rest of our lives
This is our lives on holiday

reply from: yoda

Thanks, lowlita! I knew we could count on you!!

reply from: sander

And yet all without a word from the adoption couples.
Just mindless blather does the trick with lowlife.

reply from: yoda

Well, when "blather" is the most intelligent thing you can say.......

reply from: LolitaOlivia

And yet all without a word from the adoption couples.
Just mindless blather does the trick with lowlife.
It's not blather. Please tell me you're not so stupid that you don't know what that is.

reply from: sander

We're still waiting for you to tell us what you've heard from the adoption couples. And if you're still such a cheapskate you refuse to put your money where your mouth is and make some calls.

reply from: LolitaOlivia

Xena made a few calls, IIRC, and I sent messages, but no response.

reply from: sander

Xena made a few calls, IIRC, and I sent messages, but no response.
No response, eh? Whatever could be the reason....I wonder if they've stopped laughing yet and have moved on to feeling a sense of utter pity for the likes of you and Xen........it's one or the other.

reply from: yoda

I thought I heard some side splitting laughter the other day.... that must have been what that was!

reply from: yoda

Still waiting for that laughter to die down..... I still hear echoes......

reply from: sander

Before anyone has the chance to summon the "evil spirits" to bump this.....

reply from: sander

You summoned the evil spirits.
mumbo jumbo, mumbo jumbo...stay away evil spirits...

reply from: yoda

Ooooops! Sorrrrrrreeeeeee!!!

reply from: yoda

I promise, I'll never summon up that demon again.......

reply from: 4given

Praying that these profiles combined with your effort will lead a woman away from the hand of death and into the warm arms of opportunity,hope and value. In Jesus Name! Thanks Yoda again for all you do for the unborn as well as these couples. My prayer is that the happy ending will include a life willing and thankful for the opportunity to rescue others from what was to be their fate. Blessings again in God's Name. And sincerely, thank you.

reply from: sander

Praying that these profiles combined with your effort will lead a woman away from the hand of death and into the warm arms of opportunity,hope and value. In Jesus Name! Thanks Yoda again for all you do for the unborn as well as these couples. My prayer is that the happy ending will include a life willing and thankful for the opportunity to rescue others from what was to be their fate. Blessings again in God's Name. And sincerely, thank you.

reply from: yoda

Thanks for helping me keep this thread current, sander & 4given!

reply from: faithman

You summoned the evil spirits.
mumbo jumbo, mumbo jumbo...stay away evil spirits...
You forgot HHHHHEEEEEE BEE GEEBEE GEEBEE

reply from: yoda

I'll do a little "witch doctor shuffle" and make up for it........

reply from: yoda

<--------------Doing the "witch doctor shuffle"

reply from: sander

Worth tuning in for.
It seems to be working too.

reply from: yoda

Oh, yeah!!
Next, I'm going to start working on my "rain boogie"!

reply from: yoda

BTW, did anyone else see some of the "Jon & Kate Plus Eight" marathon yesterday? I watched several shows, and I really enjoyed it. They are obviously "real" on camera, and it shows sometimes, warts and all. But in spite of all the hassles, the keep right on going, doing what they think is best for the kids AND the parents. I think it's one of the best shows on TV, especially if you love kids.

reply from: yoda

Bump for the babies........

reply from: yoda

For the babies...... bump.

reply from: 4given

For Yoda and his efforts for the babies!

reply from: yoda

Thanks! Here's one for you!

reply from: yoda

too much good information here to let this go....

reply from: yoda

Busy day for new threads, but I will keep this one on page one.

reply from: yoda

Today, I'll try to combine two subjects: use this thread to find potential adoptive parents, and please help Phil Kline win re-election!

reply from: yoda

Bumping this thread especially for SPINN WADD.... who just loves to read the same things that we prolifers appreciate......

reply from: yoda

Good morning, spinny!

reply from: faithman

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j214/yodavater/IamaPerson2.jpg

reply from: yoda

Here's another bump for spinny & farty.......

reply from: yoda

This I do again today, in honor of spinny & farty.......

reply from: 4given

Ongoing brawl, eh? If only 4 months had changed something. Your efforts remain and may you be blessed! Have you given any of the parent profiles out? Are you able to? God bless your efforts and You personally in and through this and His will for your life and the lives of the babies you seek to save and may have saved.

reply from: galen

________________________________________________________
bumping what is still a great idea.

reply from: yoda

Thanks!
I gave several copies out to all the regular 8am protesters, and some who come at 9am also. I haven't asked them if they've had any opportunity to use them, but the fact is that it's fairly rare that we get a chance to have a honest conversation with any customers. One of our guys stands at the entrance and holds out prolife brochures to the cars going by, but it's very rare for anyone to stop and take one. Still, it's nice to have the "ammo" ready for when it is needed.

reply from: yoda

Farty and spinny would not forgive me if I didn't bump this thread in their honor today........

reply from: 4given

For those facing slaughter today...

reply from: yoda

spinny and farty are feeling neglected again, so........ bump!!

reply from: faithman

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j214/yodavater/IamaPerson2.jpg

reply from: yoda

Greetings farty and spinny!

reply from: yoda

Good morning farty and spinny!

reply from: faithman

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j214/yodavater/IamaPerson2.jpg

reply from: yoda

Well I was out all day today (8 hours) pickup up campaign signs for a very, very prolife Tennessee legislator running for re-election. Bill Dunn is in a great position to help the prolife cause in Tennessee too, because he's got a lot of seniority in the TN House. Many pundits in the media call him "The conscience of the TN legislature". He wasn't actually opposed in the primary, but he likes to campaign anyway, so folks don't forget his name. And this year he has an opponent in the election, too.
Oh, and although I don't have the energy to tussle on the main forum today, I wanted to make sure spinny and farty didn't feel neglected!

reply from: yoda

Here's to spinny and farty!

reply from: yoda

Good morning spinny and farty...... (under whatever name farty is posting this morning!!)

reply from: yoda

Let's all raise our glasses and give a toast to skippy and farty!

reply from: yoda

Here's a toast to skippy and farty!

reply from: yoda

Here's aNOTHER toast to skippy and farty!

reply from: yoda

Here's aNOTHER toast to skippy and farty!

reply from: yoda

There are still unborn babies who need adoption.......

reply from: yoda

Here's my weekly report from the local abortion mill protest:
Sadly, business was up today at the baby killing mill.

But we had no wild, intoxicated coeds, no smug, condescending males, proud of their status as father of a baby soon to be dead, so it could have been worse. Of course, I was nervously anticipating the arrival of a certain PLA poster who has threatened to crack my skull and smash my camera, but she didn't show up, thank goodness! 8-O

Photos are at: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/81608abigmobtoday.html [/A}.

It will soon be time for fall "March for Life" activities, as well as the 40 Days campaign.

reply from: yoda

I'm sure all the proaborts who "support adoption" will be glad I bumped this thread today, right?

reply from: yoda

Having survived yesterday's abortuary protest without my head getting smashed, or my camera destroyed, or me getting "reported", or "made to pay", I feel very fortunate to be able to bump this thread tonight.

reply from: nancyu

Thank goodness you are okay, Yoda. Here's to you and all you do.

reply from: yoda

Thanks!! Whew!! I was so scared Saturday I was shaking...

reply from: nancyu

It must be pretty frightening to be threatened with bodily harm eh? And from a fellow pro lifer no less! (Or was it a $pro lifer$ ?)

reply from: yoda

All I know is that even after she "took it back", she still threatened to "turn me in" and "make me pay"....... but I don't know to whom or how much I'm supposed to pay. I guess I'll just have to stand around with money in my hand and wait to see who wants some, eh?

reply from: galen

_______________________________________
still a really good idea.

reply from: yoda

Ah, another day gone by without being attacked...... life is good!!

reply from: 4given

Pity on any being that would suggest such a thing.
What an awesome thing to bring life- or potential for famlihood when it is so desired so deeply. God bless.

reply from: yoda

Thanks. I guess the next time the regular city police patrol comes by, I'll have to stop them and "turn myself in", so I can be "made to pay". It looks like no one else is going to do it, so I'll have to do it myself. Maybe the police will also hit me on the head and break my camera, ya think?

reply from: yoda

I've gotten through another day without being hit in the head, having my camera broken, turned in (to someone?), or made "to pay". Any day like that is a great day!

reply from: galen

_______________________________________
still a really good idea.

reply from: yoda

Today's abortuary protest report:
Okay, we don't know the why, or the how long, or anything else, actually..... but the parking lot at the local abortuary was totally EMPTY this morning during my regular tour of duty there from 8am to 9am. And the sight was absolutely, magnificently BEAUTIFUL!! So, until I learn differently, I'm going to enjoy this respite from the long, dark parade of people coming to kill their babies there.

The ONE photo of the empty parking lot is at: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/82308beautifulsight.html

p.s. Since there were no customers or staff there today, I didn't have to worry about getting my head cracked open, my camera smashed, or being "turned in", or "having to pay". (The other protesters are quite friendly, actually.)

reply from: galen

good for you guys... if you caused it... good for the babies anyway...

reply from: yoda

Exactly..... good for the babies, no matter who or what caused it!

reply from: yoda

This bump is for spinny and "that other guy".......

reply from: yoda

Just thought I'd bump this before the coronation of "Obama the Baby Slayer" at the DNC.......

reply from: nancyu

Wow! That is beautiful. Any more photos like this one?

reply from: yoda

Such days are rare, unfortunately. They're usually only closed on major holidays. We're trying to enjoy this one as long as we can........

reply from: yoda

Thanks! I take full credit for taking the photo!!

reply from: yoda

Here's my thought for the day:
DEMOCRATS: SOCIAL JUSTICE BEGINS IN THE WOMB!

reply from: yoda

What do you call a Democratic candidate for president who loses standing in the polls during the Democrat National Convention? Answer: An Obamanation.

reply from: yoda

Now that Obama has the nomination, look for a lot more "interesting" things to come out about him.

reply from: yoda

THREE CHEERS FOR SARAH PALIN, GOVERNOR OF ALASKA AND NEXT VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!!

reply from: yoda

Sarah Barracuda for President!!

reply from: yoda

It's the morning after, Gustav is bearing down on the gulf coast, and people are running for their lives. Thank goodness we still have Sarah to be the silver lining on that cloud.... she's really, really made a huge difference in my outlook for our society.

reply from: yoda

Here's my weekly report from the protest lines at the abortuary:
Business was back to about normal yesterday, and that was an ugly, ugly sight.

But, on the bright side, one young woman seemed very impressed with herself because she displayed her middle finger to us a couple times. She seemed to think that was really, really funny.

And one male who accompanied a woman there asked us "Why don't you mind your own business" as he walked into the door. He didn't give us time to respond, or we could've told him that's exactly what we were doing. But he didn't want a conversation, he just wanted to take a shot at us.

How about that VP nomination???? I and all my prolife friends are absolutely ecstatic over that! The only thing I'd change is that I'd flip the ticket if I could...... Sarah Barracuda for PRESIDENT!!

The photos are at: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/83008averyuglysight.html

And I'm happy to report my health is still okay, no one cracked my head open, destroyed my camera, turned me in, or made me pay.

reply from: nancyu

http://www.parentprofiles.com/

reply from: yoda

We moved the Little Crosses for the Unborn display today:
Photos are online at: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/9108crossesmoved.html .

reply from: yoda

Sarah Barracuda for President in 2012!!

reply from: yoda

Well, a great mystery was cleared up for me today.
I was wondering how BHO could claim to have "executive" experience, and today I learned that he was referring to his administration of his very own presidential campaign......
How about that?

reply from: yoda

Don't forget..... Sarah Barracuda will speak at about 10 Eastern tonight at the RNC..... and Obama is the guest on the O'Reilly show at 9.

reply from: yoda

After the session at the RNC last night...... there was so much excitement, you could almost taste it. I've never seen conservatives so energized and united before, in all my 64 years.
And to think, it took two mavericks to pull everyone together.......

reply from: faithman

Comunity organizer with responsibility.... snicker snicker!!!

reply from: yoda

Yeah, she had a bunch of great lines in her acceptance speech. I loved the one where she said that some politicians use "change" to support their political careers, and other politicians use their careers to support change.
She's a tremendous breath of fresh air for this country, and the extreme panic and desperation of the leftist proaborts to smear her proves they realize how dangerous she is to them and their cause.
I spent most all day yesterday transporting and setting up a prolife display in a local annual community fair/carnival. It's right in the middle of Knoxville, and they always get quite a good crowd, so a lot of people will see it.
Today I'm going back to spend a few hours volunteering at the display, so I don't have time to even read all the threads on the first page, I'll have to try to catch up this weekend. I'll post some links to photos of the display.

reply from: yoda

This week's activism report:
On Thursday, I spent about 4 hours putting up the display at the prolife booth put up by the Knox County chapter of Tennessee Right to Life at the Tennessee Valley Agricultural & Industrial Fair (a "county fair" event of long standing). Then Friday I spent 4 hours in the booth. Our shift started at 3, so it was pretty slow. Some photos of our booth, and the fair, I took some photos of our booth, and some general interest, and they are posted at: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/9508tvaifair.html

Today we were once again reassured that we are #1, so we're all feeling good about that. Sadly, we're not feeling good about the babies that died today at the abortuary. The killing business was about normal today. And, luck for me, no one tried to smash my head, break my camera, turn me in, or make me pay. Today's photos are at: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/9608morekilling.html

There were several "Walks for Life" in Knoxville this morning, but I chose to stay at my usual post.
Our 40 Days campaign starts on the 24th.
How about that Sarah Barracuda? Her nomination lifted my spirits more than most anything has lately about the prolife struggle in general. How long have we waited for a genuine prolifer to be elected to a national office? I wish I could stay up 24/7 just to hear more about how angry the proaborts are, and how they are so flustered that they can hardly speak!! Oh, it's so satisfying.........

reply from: yoda

Sarah Palin is now the undisputed champion of the prolife movement.
While it is our (prolifers) duty and obligation to defend her, I think that in reality she needs no defense. All the lies and innuendos being thrown at her are backfiring to their source. Every new slander generates more sympathy from the "undecided" voting block. Her popularity is growing like a "mile a minute" (Kudzu) vine. Obama is toast, and I think he knows it.

reply from: sweet

AWESOME WORK...what a joy to see this type of work coming straight from the kindness of hearts!...we all need to take note of this and strive to do our part!

reply from: yoda

It is a badly needed and very rewarding way to contribute your time, money, and efforts.

reply from: yoda

Sarah Palin GETS IT!!
GO SARAH!!

reply from: yoda

Bloggers, politicians, media representatives, and celebrities, on the left are trying their best to trash Sarah Palin.
But she's like a mirror, and it all comes right back on them. She's living the American dream, living a clean and responsible life, and they hate her for that.

reply from: yoda

The South Carolina Democratic Chairwoman, Carol Fowler, said McCain had chosen a running mate "whose primary qualification seems to be that she hasn't had an abortion".
http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2008/09/palins_only_qua.html#comments [/a]
palin qualifications 2.jpg
According to Fox, the fowl Fowler is now not returning calls.

reply from: yoda

By John Fritze, USA TODAY
Despite a national discussion about whether Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin sought to ban books as mayor more than a decade ago, the city says there is no record of any books being yanked from the shelves.

Since being selected as John McCain's running mate, Palin has faced questions over discussions she had with Wasilla's librarian in 1996. In recent days, a bogus list of "banned books" has been widely circulated on the Internet.
But on its website, the city of Wasilla posted a statement asserting that no books at the library have ever been banned.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-09-09-Palin-book-ban_N.htm [/a]

reply from: yoda

September 11, 2008
Timing is everything
Barack Obama and the Democrat Party's decision to hold the Democrat convention before the Republican convention is a significant reason why he is losing momentum.
This meant Obama had to announce his VP before McCain.
If Obama could conduct one do-over, I'd bet it would be to pick Hillary Clinton as his running mate. He got cocky about his poll numbers and also allowed his pride get in the way of not wanting to be overshadowed in the White House.
Yesterday, Obama's loose-lipped sidekick, Joe Biden, said as much.
full article: http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2008/09/timing_is_every.html#comments

reply from: yoda

September 12, 2008
Matt Damon rips Sarah Palin
Comparing Sarah Palin's candidacy to "like a really bad Disney movie," actor Matt Damon also questioned her stability yesterday: "I need to know if she really think that dinosaurs were here 4,000 years ago. I want to know that, I really do. Because she's gonna have the nuclear codes."
Matt is dissing every person who believes in Creationism. He obviously supports evolution, backed by mainstream science.
Speaking of, I myself am concerned about a man having the nuclear codes who doesn't know who is human and who is not. Obama says he is confused about basic scientific fact that unique individual humans with unique DNA are created at the fertilization of human egg and human sperm. That's breathtakingly ignorant, kind of like Jason Bourne, who didn't know who he was either.
Damon also propagated the known lie, wondering "if she banned books or tried to ban books. I mean - you know, we can't - we can't have that."
Matt needs to do a little less blathering and a little more reading himself. As far as I know Palin hasn't attempted to ban the Internet yet, although now that I've typed that a liberal blogger is certain to cut and paste it into the latest rumor. At any rate, Matt might try reading FactCheck.org, unless he like Obama would prefer to stay liberal and ignorant.
BTW, Palin's response to Damon? Per her spokeswoman, Maria Comella:
It's not surprising that the Barack Obama and his celebrity supporters continue to tear down Governor Palin with little more than blatant name-calling," she said. "It's clear they're threatened by a candidate who actually has a record of achieving reform and change, while Barack Obama just talks about it.
http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2008/09/matt_damon_rips.html#comments

reply from: yoda

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The Gospel According to Joe Biden
Pro-choice Catholics just don't get it
By Father Thomas D. Williams
The proverb says that the human being is the only animal that falls into the same trap twice. This old adage was confirmed in spades this past Sunday as Senator Joe Biden strolled onto the set of Meet the Press and repeated the horrendous gaffes made by his colleague Nancy Pelosi on the very same set just two weeks earlier. As Yogi Berra would have said, it was déjà vu, all over again.
In case you happen to be the only stranger in Jerusalem who hasn't heard these things, I will quickly bring you up to speed. On August 23, Speaker Nancy Pelosi was asked about abortion rights on Meet the Press with Tom Brokaw. Regarding when human life begins, Pelosi answered "We don't know. The point is, is that it shouldn't have an impact on the woman's right to choose... I don't think anybody can tell you when life begins." These remarks, coupled with Pelosi's hazy wanderings into historical debates regarding abortion, set off a maelstrom of criticism, and provoked stern statements from no fewer than ten bishops, who confirmed in unison the Catholic pro-life position and the untenability of Pelosi's statements.

Rest of article: http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=M2UyNzMwNTlhZDI0YWI5ZDE1OTIyMzA1OWU1MGFiMGI=#more

reply from: yoda

Today's report from the abortuary protest:
More of the same today, unfortunately. One guy took exception to the vocal pleas of one of our protesters and informed us that "It is none of your business". Then after a short exchange of hostilities, he decided to change tactics and tried to solicit our sympathy. When that didn't work either, he just gave up. Those people aren't getting any prettier, IMO.
Fortunately, today no one tried to crack my skull, break my camera, turn me in, or make me pay for anything.

Photos are online at: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/91308moredeath.html

Go SARAH!

reply from: yoda

Here's an interesting article:
OBAMA TRIED TO STALL GIS' IRAQ WITHDRAWAL
Comments: 399Read Comments Leave a Comment LONG VIEW: Barack Obama tours Iraq with Gen. David Petraeus in July, when he sought to stall any agreement for US troop withdrawal until President Bush left office.
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September 15, 2008
Posted: 4:02 am
September 15, 2008
WHILE campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.
According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.
"He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington," Zebari said in an interview.
Obama insisted that Congress should be involved in negotiations on the status of US troops - and that it was in the interests of both sides not to have an agreement negotiated by the Bush administration in its "state of weakness and political confusion."
full article: http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obama_tried_to_stall_gis_iraq_withdrawal_129150.htm

reply from: KaylieBee

I wonder if anyone else is reading this thread anymore aside from yoda...

reply from: yoda

Looks like it's just you and I, Kay.
Thanks for bumping it!

reply from: yoda

Darn, Kay didn't bump this thread today, so I'll have to do it......
pro-choice adjective advocating access to legal abortion: advocating open legal access to voluntary abortion http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/pro-choice.html

pro-a·bor·tion adjective - favoring legal access to abortion: in favor of open legal access to voluntary abortion http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/DictionaryResults.aspx?refid=1861736813

reply from: sweet

i wonder who came up with those definitions.

reply from: yoda

Umm... you do realize that they come from online DICTIONARIES, right?
THEY "come up with them" by doing surveys of how people use words in actual, real life situations, both verbal and in print. It's their job.

reply from: sweet

just in general, i always wonder how words come to be in the dictionary (i know this is kind of off topic)

reply from: yoda

Okay, they take surveys. They survey printed material, tv programs, movies, and all kinds of communication. They simply figure out how people are using words, and what they mean when they say them. And then they put the results of their surveys in print and call it a dictionary.
That's how new words get in the dictionaries too. As soon as a word is found to be in use by a "significant" percentage of the public, they list it as a new word. Of course, each company has it's own criteria as to what minimum percentage is "significant".

reply from: sweet

cooool...interesting...thanks.

reply from: yoda

Thanks for bumping, xen.

reply from: 4given

Wonderful idea! Many more men, women and children could potentially benefit from the availability of this information. Who goes in to an abortion clinic expecting to be given information about adoption? PP advertises the "choices" discussed. Anyway, great for you. Those that frequent the clinics, or even those that do not could be instrumental in the saving of life and prevention of what may be a lifetime of pain to those that abort and those that long to adopt. Thank you for the information.

reply from: yoda

Thanks for being here.
I keep the information from the ParentProfiles current, and with me when I go to the abortuary. It's very reassuring to know that you have a ready answer for anyone who might be thinking about adoption.

reply from: yoda

Here's this week's frontline report from Knoxville:
Yes, once again we have been designated "number one" by the customers of the main abortuary in Knoxville, TN, and we have photographic proof!

Sadly, the hideous parade of baby killing parents resumed yesterday, and was only slightly smaller than usual. Photos, including the one awarding us #1 status are at: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/92008moreofsame.html
">http://www.abortionknoxville.c...moreofsame.html

We're looking forward to the fall 40 Day campaign kick off on Wednesday at 8am. Since it takes place during a presidential election campaign, it should be lively, at least! Actually, there are several signs that this year's campaign may be bigger and better than even last year's excellent start.

I personally have had an interesting morning dealing with my website provider (for abortionknoxville.com), which is Network Solutions. Very early today I was unable to post the page for Saturday, so I called and asked for help. I was told by the service rep (with an Indian accent) that he couldn't fix the problem, and would "bump it up to the next level of technical assistance", and someone would call me back. When I got no call for the next 5 hours, I called them back. I was then told it might be "one to three business days" before they could fix the problem with my website. So, I asked them if they were going to give me a three day discount on the rent for my site, and the service rep asked me if I'd like to talk to a supervisor about that. I of course agreed, and he put me on hold again. So, while on hold I tried to upload my page for Saturday again, and LO AND BEHOLD it worked! Imagine that! No sooner had I started discussing a "discount" and talking to a "supervisor:", the webpage publisher started working again!! Isn't that a miracle??? Or am I just a bit paranoid about proabort saboteurs? Well, all I know is that the next time I have a problem, I'm going to ask directly for a supervisor and demand a discount......
On the bright side, no one tried to bash my brains out, or smash my camera, or turn me in, or make me pay.... so I guess it was a pretty good day after all!

reply from: yoda

Sliming Palin
September 8, 2008
Updated: September 9, 2008
False Internet claims and rumors fly about McCain's running mate.
Summary
We've been flooded for the past few days with queries about dubious Internet postings and mass e-mail messages making claims about McCain's running mate, Gov. Palin. We find that many are completely false, or misleading.
* Palin did not cut funding for special needs education in Alaska by 62 percent. She didn't cut it at all. In fact, she increased funding and signed a bill that will triple per-pupil funding over three years for special needs students with high-cost requirements.
* She did not demand that books be banned from the Wasilla library. Some of the books on a widely circulated list were not even in print at the time. The librarian has said Palin asked a "What if?" question, but the librarian continued in her job through most of Palin's first term.
* She was never a member of the Alaskan Independence Party, a group that wants Alaskans to vote on whether they wish to secede from the United States. She's been registered as a Republican since May 1982.
full article: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html

reply from: yoda

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reply from: yoda

Kay just loves to help me keep the thread bumped, she's so concerned about adoption, ya know?

reply from: yoda

GOOD MORNING, SPINNY!!

reply from: ProInformed

Wonderful idea! Many more men, women and children could potentially benefit from the availability of this information. Who goes in to an abortion clinic expecting to be given information about adoption? PP advertises the "choices" discussed. Anyway, great for you. Those that frequent the clinics, or even those that do not could be instrumental in the saving of life and prevention of what may be a lifetime of pain to those that abort and those that long to adopt. Thank you for the information.
Most women who've had abortions, and most former abortion industry emplyees, say that there is little to no alternative offered at abortion clinics besides abortion.
Some choicers claim otherwise and even from time to time come up with a clinic or two they can point to that they claim gives info about and support for other options besides abortion. But the fact remains that the abortion industry and the lobbyists who defend it (so-called 'pro-choice' groups) consistently oppose ALL legislative efforts to REQUIRE abortionists to offer pregnant women info about ALL their options. And most choicists argue against options counseling, only some pretend it's already available.
This is another exampe of choicists not challening each other.
Why aren't the choicists who claim they are not opposed to pregnant women being offered info and assistance with the option of adoption debating with the choicists who don't want pregnant women to have such counseling? Why are the pro-choicers who claim they do support options counseling being offered keeping quiet while the choicist politicians and groups that call themselves 'pro-choice' actively fight the legislative efforts to grant pregnant women the right to be informed and get assistance with ALL their options including adoption? For that matter why aren't the pro-choicers who SAY they support pregnant women getting info and assistance with the option of adoption the ones initiating such legislative efforts (instead of ONLY prolifers doing it)?

reply from: yoda

Why?
Probably because they value "unity" in the proabortion movement more than possibly saving a life, or the prevention of an act of homicide.
Their loyalty to the act of baby killing is very, very strong.

reply from: yoda

Weekly report on Knoxville prolife activities:
The fall edition of the 40 Days for Life project is up and running in Knoxville, opening on Wednesday, September 24th at 8AM. Some photos can be seen at: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/9240840days.html

On Saturday, Sept. 27th, the abortion mill was back to the baby killing business as usual. We had a good representation on the protest line, but a few still came in to kill their babies. Photos can be seen at: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/92708stillkilling.html

I'll be spending some time in the next few weeks donating my time to the McCain Palin campaign, and to a local prolifer's campaign. The prolifer is running against Jim Hackworth (who votes with the proaborts) for the state representative seat from my district (which includes Anderson Co.). Please lend all the support you can for prolife candidates.

reply from: yoda

Bump one more time, just for spinny!

reply from: scopia1982

We just love spinny!!!

reply from: yoda

Absolutely! Spinny is the "anti-hero"!

reply from: yoda

Here's an interesting video on the history of the present financial meltdown:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgctSIL8Lhs

reply from: sweet

thanks. now there is a growing shortage of gas is some towns--it seems we are in a 'depression.'

reply from: yoda

Odd things are going on..... gas prices vary widely here in my state, from one town to the next. For a while, we had the highest in the nation, and now we have about the lowest. Very interesting..... as Arte Johnson used to say.

reply from: yoda

Lots and lots of new threads, and new proaborts...... what a coincidence!
One proabort supposedly left, and two or three took her place... what a surprise?

reply from: sweet

LOL...makes me wonder...with the abortion, the proaborts, the WWIII that's began, the gas crisis, the stock market, the bailout....interesting.

reply from: yoda

All I can say is "fasten your seat belts, ladies and gentlemen".....

reply from: yoda

Oh, btw, I'm happy to announce that the troll "celibate" and all his duplicate troll posts are history.......

reply from: yoda

Here's a little bump for SPINNY!

reply from: yoda

For October 4th:
Our 40 Days campaign down at the local abortuary is in full swing, as the photos show:
http://www.abortionknoxville.com/1040840dayscontinues.html

And we also managed to move our Crosses for the Unborn display yesterday, as seen here:
http://www.abortionknoxville.com/10408crossesmoved.html

"Business" was about typical for the abortion mill yesterday. We didn't get our usual confirmation of our status as #1, but that may have been because of our numbers. One of the orthodontists (I posted his picture) who has an office in the same building with the abortuary came out and talked to one of our protesters yesterday, to register his complaint that our signs were making his customers "uncomfortable". He didn't bother to talk to me (and I feel neglected!), but he spent some time talking to Paul (also pictured). Paul suggested that this building might not be the best place for his office, but he protested that he was "there first" (before the abortuary).

Isn't it astounding that he felt the need to inform us that he placed the "comfort" of his patients above the right to life of the innocent babies being killed there? Didn't he think we knew that already? I'm always astounded at the caviler attitude proaborts take towards our mission, and towards innocent human life.

It's a busy, hectic, unsettled time we live in. And the killing goes on.

reply from: yoda

Check out the "Obama Youth":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUEQz5dltmI

If this doesn't ring a bell, you're either too young or too sheltered to remember the "Hitler Youth" movements.

reply from: yoda

Wow, just look at all the new threads! Way to go, gang!

reply from: yoda

Anybody got a few billion to loan California? Or Massachusetts? Or Ford or GM? Come on, surely someone here has a billion or two lying around?

reply from: yoda

Well, I got sick of the debate....... just couldn't watch any more. It appeared to me that a liar was debating a fool, and I'll leave you all to figure out which is which.

reply from: 4given

Originally posted by: yodavater
There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: "><br ">http://www.parentprofiles.com ...>
I copied all the couples (three) listed for the state of Tennessee, and handed them out at the abortuary this morning. We rarely get a chance to talk to the "customers", but sometimes when we do it might be helpful to be able to show them the names and photos of couples and families wanting to adopt in this state.
And we can answer any of them who yell at us and say: "Well are YOU going to adopt this child if I don't abort?" Most of use are too old to be considered adoptive parents anyway, but we can put them in contact with people who are already pre-screened.

reply from: 4given

And ahh.. ummm.. ahh... the lawyer was!

reply from: yoda

Yep! It was that Senator!

reply from: yoda

Gotta run, so I'll just BUMP.......

reply from: yoda

Wow... what a bunch of new threads..... this election really has things hopping around here!!

reply from: yoda

Not as many new threads this morning...... someone is sleeping in late, maybe.

reply from: yoda

Saturday's Darlings:
Our 40 Days campaign continued yesterday, with a good showing in the early morning hours. We had about 25 people there for the opening of the baby killing mill.

Business was about "normal" at the mill. People came, and babies died. You can see them, and some of the 40 Days people at: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/10110840daysgoeson.html

Life goes on, I guess, unless you happen to be an unborn child of a couple who doesn't want you.

reply from: yoda

Monday, Monday, can't trust that day...... Monday Monday, somehow it just turned out that way..... on Monday morning you gave me no warning, of what was to be.......

reply from: yoda

LOTS AND LOTS of new threads today!!
YAY!!

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

I copied all the couples (three) listed for the state of Tennessee, and handed them out at the abortuary this morning. We rarely get a chance to talk to the "customers", but sometimes when we do it might be helpful to be able to show them the names and photos of couples and families wanting to adopt in this state.
And we can answer any of them who yell at us and say: "Well are YOU going to adopt this child if I don't abort?" Most of use are too old to be considered adoptive parents anyway, but we can put them in contact with people who are already pre-screened.

reply from: 4given

Thank you Yoda! This is a fabulous idea and I hope by now others have caught on. Bless you for your continued efforts to save the threatened at the clinics and elsewhere!

reply from: yoda

Thanks for the bump!!

reply from: scopia1982

I cannot say that I support you photographing everyone that walks into that clinic. But maybe you all could focus more on what appear to be underage girls with their" loving" partners? Also on adult women who appear to be under duress or pressure to abort? Of course they too are most likely accompanied by "loving' partners as well. I would be curious to see how many cases that you could get.

reply from: yoda

At the distance from which I photograph, I can't really judge the age of the people who walk in the door, only their size. And some people are just short and/or small, so that's no reliable indicator of age. I wish I could find a way to notify the authorities when an underage girl walks in there.
As to pressure, that works both ways. Sometimes it's someone pressuring a pregnant woman to go in, sometimes it's a pregnant woman pressuring a companion to come in with her. And it's never a case of physically dragging a person in, it's always more subtle, but still apparent, like shouting at them, pulling on their arm, etc.
As to your lack of support for my tactic, that really doesn't matter. You need to find your own level of comfort in doing whatever you do, and not worry about someone else's level of comfort. I disagree with lots of tactics that I see being used, but I try not to step on anyone's toes as long as they are not actually violating someone's constitutional rights. They will have to answer for what is in their heart, not me.

reply from: yoda

Happy weekend, one and all....

reply from: yoda

Today's report from the front lines:
"Today's Parade of Fools"
This morning at the abortuary came and went without any incidents of note. We protesters showed up, the baby killers showed up, and the murdering parents showed up. You know the rest. Photographs for today are at: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/101808holdingon.html

Prolifers have a lot of activities to choose from these days. There's the usual activities, the 40 Days for Life project, and there's politics. Many prolife candidates need help, not the least of which is the Republican nominee for president. Or, maybe he is the least of which. At any rate, with the addition of Sarah Palin as the VP nominee, this is the most prolife slate of candidates in our history. I hope you have time to help all these worthy causes.

And don't forget, vote early, and vote often (if you live in Ohio).

reply from: 4given

I am so encouraged to see how devoted you are. Any word on the plans to open up another "superabortuary" near you? As for your update today, it so troubles me to see the parents that arrive with their small children.

reply from: yoda

The owner of a chain of abortuaries in Charlotte, NC, has announced plans to expand to Chattanooga. Prolifers there have announced plans to oppose his plans. So far, it's a standoff.
Yeah, it's really disgusting that they bring small children there with them as they kill even smaller children. I wonder what they tell them the purpose of their visit is?

reply from: 4given

My sister lived in Chattanooga for awhile. I was pleased to hear that there was no abortion center there. I have been following it somewhat. Glad to hear the plans haven't materialized. I suspect the pro-life efforts will strengthen as the push for a clinic intensifies. Praying that the efforts will be enough and the clinic plans will fall apart.
It is disgusting. I suppose it is just the beginning of several trips this child will take over the years, most likely repeating the process like mom did.

reply from: yoda

I hope not, but it's hard to say. One thing for sure, the babies that are aborted won't be having more abortions.

reply from: yoda

Can't let this one get away. Check out my favorite McCain supporter:
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j214/yodavater/JackMcCainsupporter.jpg

reply from: RiverMoonLady

Gee, maybe it's because they already HAVE children and can't take care of them?

reply from: scopia1982

Maybe getting a tubal ligation instead of an abortion would be the better option. If she is already pregnant, carrying the child to term and then putting it up for adoption would be the best and more compassionate choice. Then get her tubes tied after the baby is born. A win/win situation.

reply from: RiverMoonLady

Maybe getting a tubal ligation instead of an abortion would be the better option. If she is already pregnant, carrying the child to term and then putting it up for adoption would be the best and more compassionate choice. Then get her tubes tied after the baby is born. A win/win situation.
Excellent idea - if only she had insurance that would pay for the not-so-cheap surgery. Free sterilizations? I'd support that idea.

reply from: scopia1982

Maybe getting a tubal ligation instead of an abortion would be the better option. If she is already pregnant, carrying the child to term and then putting it up for adoption would be the best and more compassionate choice. Then get her tubes tied after the baby is born. A win/win situation.
Excellent idea - if only she had insurance that would pay for the not-so-cheap surgery. Free sterilizations? I'd support that idea.
Most if not all states have free or low cost sterilization programs for low income people through Medicaid or the Department of Health. They do have it here in Va. they really love to push it.

reply from: yoda

Hmm..... I thought you "choicers" promoted adoption....... what ever happened to that excuse?
Did you already forget it?

reply from: RiverMoonLady

Hmm..... I thought you "choicers" promoted adoption....... what ever happened to that excuse?
Did you already forget it?
Now you want mothers to GIVE AWAY their kids - you know, the ones they've had for 5, 10 or 15 years - so they can have a BABY?????????? Weird, Yoda, just plain weird.
If you are talking about having the BABY and putting it up for adoption, all you need to tell these women is how many prospective parents will PAY many thousands of dollars for the babies. That should change their minds!
I DO support adoption as a wonderful choice for those women who think it's their best option.

reply from: nancyu

(Can this pro abort be saved? Highly doubtful, but we keep trying don't we)
River Moon Lady, you should rethink your idea of what should be considered "weird" --you think they should kill their child rather than give their child to a loving family. Now THAT is weird.

reply from: yoda

A Mother's Perspective:
FRIDAY, OCTOBER 10, 2008 07:42 PM, CDT
Many people, when touched by the illness of a loved one, will take up the cause of fighting that illness. This is right and good. We should fight terrible diseases, especially ones that take the lives of children. Brad and I certainly support efforts of researchers seeking to know more about mitochondrial disease with a future hope of some treatment. But we haven't felt particularly inclined to take this up as a cause.
This is why: Four thousand children die every day in our country of something totally preventable. Each day that my child was in the hospital or clinic, with a team of doctors working their hardest to beat an unbeatable disease, 39 healthy Minnesotan kids died at the hands of a different set of doctors across town. I am speaking of course of abortion.
My children had bad genes, and despite medicine's best efforts, they died. But at least while they lived, they were respected, loved and treated with dignity. When they died, people cried for them. They had beautiful funerals. People leave them flowers at the cemetery. Their short lives were lived in love. Babies who die from abortion die badly. They are treated as medical waste. People pretend to forget they ever existed. This is an injustice that cries out to heaven.
But children who die from abortion are not its only victims. Losing a baby to an untreatable disease hurts. But Brad and I have the support of our families, friends and Church. People ask us how we are doing. They sent cards (hundreds of them!!) and flowers, and meals. Women and men who lose their babies to abortion do not have this support. Often their grief goes totally unrecognized and unaffirmed. One post-abortive woman I know was told by her psychologist to 'just get over it already'. The choice that was supposed to be so freeing, these women tell me, ends up imprisoning them in a spiral of grief, anger, shame and hurt. Let's not be naive: every abortion claims AT LEAST two victims (though we can't forget dad, grandma, the friend that gave the ride, the abortionist...).
Abortion is the elephant in the living room of American society. No one likes to talk about it. It makes everyone squirm. But the fact remains that in the three decades that it has been legal, it has killed millions of children and wounded millions of parents. This cannot be allowed to continue. Over 170 cities in 45 states are currently participating in 40 Days for Life- an interfaith effort to end abortion through prayer, fasting and presence. If your city is hosting one, I encourage you to participate (St. John's is hosting October 25th at Regions). If not, there are hundreds of different ways to take a stand for life. Some defend it in our courts or legislature, others on the sidewalk, others through education, others at Crisis Pregnancy centers, others through adoption agencies, others in post-abortion healing ministries. And all of us have a chance to support it at the ballot box.
Let's work toward cures for childhood diseases, but in doing so, let's also try our best to also save the lives of all those kids who are not sick.

http://www.caringbridge.org/cb/viewJournal.do?method=reload&sort=2&scrollPage=10&ec=50 (scroll down)

reply from: yoda

The positions of the candidates on life issues, in their own words:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XVgljNHZ004

reply from: RiverMoonLady

(Can this pro abort be saved? Highly doubtful, but we keep trying don't we)
River Moon Lady, you should rethink your idea of what should be considered "weird" --you think they should kill their child rather than give their child to a loving family. Now THAT is weird.
Yoda was suggesting that pregnant women should give up their BORN children for adoption in order to be able to afford a new baby. That, to me, is VERY weird. Giving up the baby for adoption, yes - but no one should have to put their older children up for adoption because a baby is more important or should take precedence.

reply from: yoda

All the sane people out there know I was not suggesting ANY SUCH THING.
Too bad about you.

reply from: yoda

Happy Sunday morning to all you out there!

reply from: ladybug

It's so sad because I have two aunts that cannot have children due to the many abortions they had. One of my aunts just adopted a beautiful little baby girl.... She is so precious and I couldn't be happier for my aunt and uncle. Unfortunately she had to adopt BECAUSE of bad choices she made when she was younger.

reply from: nancyu

Gee, maybe it's because they already HAVE children and can't take care of them?
Then they should kill them, too?

reply from: nancyu

Maybe getting a tubal ligation instead of an abortion would be the better option. If she is already pregnant, carrying the child to term and then putting it up for adoption would be the best and more compassionate choice. Then get her tubes tied after the baby is born. A win/win situation.
Excellent idea - if only she had insurance that would pay for the not-so-cheap surgery. Free sterilizations? I'd support that idea.
You're right, it's much cheaper to kill the children.

reply from: yoda

That was a beautiful letter, wasn't it?
Whatever we do, let's remember to support adoption. Kids deserve a chance at life just as much as adults do. Let them live.

reply from: Rosalie

Respect my right to reproductive freedom.

reply from: nancyu

Reproductive freedom. Yes I respect your right to do everything you can to not get pregnant if you don't want to. If you do get pregnant (through no fault of mine, or your child's) That child is here, alive, and growing. I will never respect your "right" to kill that innocent child. I will do everything I can to stand in your way.
Although my ability to stand in your way is restricted more and more each day, in every way possible by you Pro "choice" pro "reproductive freedom" crowd. What you really mean is pro "*feet stomping, throwing yourself on the floor*right to kill my children if I want to! "
Nope, I don't respect that.

reply from: yoda

Respect my right to reproductive freedom.
Nope. Not gonna happen.
"Reproductive freedom" could mean infanticide, child killing, or just killing your offspring of ANY AGE.
There is no such thing as a moral RIGHT TO KILL ELECTIVELY!!

reply from: Rosalie

Still your opinion. I am absolutely within my right to abort or continue a pregnancy. Your opinions do not matter to anyone but you.
And if you don't respect my rights, why should I expect yours or your opinions?

reply from: Rosalie

Respect my right to reproductive freedom.
Nope. Not gonna happen.
"Reproductive freedom" could mean infanticide, child killing, or just killing your offspring of ANY AGE.
There is no such thing as a moral RIGHT TO KILL ELECTIVELY!!
You realize that it doesn't matter at all whether you approve or respect our rights, don't you? We have these rights and your screeching means absolutely nothing.
And reproductive freedom is a term that is clearly tied to continuing/discontinuing a pregnancy. It has nothing whatsoever to do with infanticide, child killing or killing one's offspring.

reply from: yoda

Thanks to the last proabort who bumped this thread. I can see your name in the "last post" column, but I've got you on iggy. Please, bump it again?

reply from: yoda

Adoption is STILL IMPORTANT to me, no matter who is president.

reply from: yoda

Time to make the doughnuts again......

reply from: nancyu

I'm hungry, what kind did you make?

reply from: yoda

I made some chocolate ones with crunchy sprinkles on them.... and all the fat and sugar have been removed.......... honest!

reply from: nancyu

Yum! I'll take two of those please.

reply from: yoda

Two dozen rocky road doughnuts, coming right up!

reply from: Derrickvoncowan

You will love this guy!
His is the video titled "Abortion" on this page
There is also a forum on the bottom of the page.
Please support him
http://www.bungalow3.net/videos.cfm

reply from: Derrickvoncowan

Respect my rights so I can be oblivious to my children's rights and murder them rather than inconvenience myself due to my own reckless behaviour. LOL!!!!!!
The only plus side to abortion is that people like you voluntarily remove yourselves from our gene pool. We should probably just thank you & let it go at that.
http://www.bungalow3.net/videos.cfm

reply from: Derrickvoncowan

Respect my right to reproductive freedom.
Nope. Not gonna happen.
"Reproductive freedom" could mean infanticide, child killing, or just killing your offspring of ANY AGE.
There is no such thing as a moral RIGHT TO KILL ELECTIVELY!!
You realize that it doesn't matter at all whether you approve or respect our rights, don't you? We have these rights and your screeching means absolutely nothing.
And reproductive freedom is a term that is clearly tied to continuing/discontinuing a pregnancy. It has nothing whatsoever to do with infanticide, child killing or killing one's offspring.
Those things are one in the same dear

reply from: yoda

Those things are one in the same dear
Welcome to the forum, Derrick.
And you're exactly right. Thanks.

reply from: nancyu

I guess I missed this one, it must have been good, because it is no longer there:

reply from: RiverMoonLady

Maybe getting a tubal ligation instead of an abortion would be the better option. If she is already pregnant, carrying the child to term and then putting it up for adoption would be the best and more compassionate choice. Then get her tubes tied after the baby is born. A win/win situation.
Sterilization is a GREAT option unless the woman wants to have more children LATER in her life.

reply from: yoda

It was a group of young black men in fatigues, doing a little recitation of their devotion to Obama in unison, with arm movements. Really reminiscent of films of the Hitler youth groups.

reply from: yoda

Sure, so you think she ought to kill one or two now, so she can have "more later", right?
After all, they're just babies, right?

reply from: RiverMoonLady

Sure, so you think she ought to kill one or two now, so she can have "more later", right?
After all, they're just babies, right?
You have SUCH a lovely way with words, YV. You know I believe that birth control should be the alternative, and that we NEED to find the best, safest, most effective contraception in order to minimize or eliminate abortions.
You have at least one child now. Would you PLEASE get over your loss?

reply from: yoda

Would you please find another way to try to get to me? That one doesn't work, ya know? Why don't you trash my mother, or tell me my whole family is trailer trash? Why keep trying to needle me about my descendants? Do you have some fantasy that you can make me so angry that I can't type?
And yes, I know you mean "birth control", but the problem is that you seem to think that abortion is a type of birth control.

reply from: RiverMoonLady

I know nothing about your mother or your whole family or your trailer. I only know that long ago, some woman who left you aborted your fetus and you never got over it.
Abortion should NEVER be used as birth control. Unwanted fetuses should be avoided before they are conceived.

reply from: yoda

No, you can't even get that right, as if it was any of your business to bring it up every time you want to try to get to me. You're simply trying to find something that I am sensitive about and stick a knife in it. You're the lowest of scum, and that's an understatement.
Well, abortion IS used as "birth control", and you of course know that very well.
So, since you say it ought not be used as birth control, why do you oppose making it a crime to use it as "birth control"? You really don't care about the babies that die that way, do you?

reply from: yoda

Time to make the doughnuts again.....

reply from: scopia19822

That is just cruel and heartless RML. I have one child and lost one and anyone on here who has lost a child will tell you that you may come to terms with it and accept it. BUT YOU NEVER GET OVER IT!!

reply from: RiverMoonLady

That is just cruel and heartless RML. I have one child and lost one and anyone on here who has lost a child will tell you that you may come to terms with it and accept it. BUT YOU NEVER GET OVER IT!!
No child was lost. He is just a bitter old fart with too much time on his hands.

reply from: yoda

But you're determined to irritate me to the fullest extent possible by your cruel little references to that part of my life, aren't you?
Well, what else can a poor proabort like you do, when deep down you don't have anything else to say but "kill the little ba****d"?
You're really a one note propaganda machine, with no hint of morals, scruples, or decency.
Merriam-Webster Dictionary: Main Entry: child 1 : an unborn or recently born person http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/child

MSN Encarta Dictionary: child [ (plural chil·dren noun 5. unborn baby
http://dictionary.msn.com/

Information Please: child -n., 8. a human fetus. http://www.infoplease.com/
American Heritage Dictionary: Child: 2. a. An unborn infant; a fetus. IDIOMS: with child Pregnant. http://www.bartleby.com/61/
Wordsmyth: The educational dictionary: Phrases: with child http://www.wordsmyth.net
Webster's Revised Unabriged Dictionary: Child: To be with child, to be pregnant. -- the immediate progeny of human parents http://humanities.uchicago.edu/forms_unrest/webster.form.html
Main Entry: child Function: noun
1 : an unborn or recently born person
http://www.intelihealth.com/cgi-bin/dictionary.cgi?book=Medical&adv=0&cgi=1&t=9276&p=%7Ebr%2CRNM%7C%7Est%2C331%7C%7Er%2CWSRNM000%7C%7Eb%2C*%7C&WEB_HOME=%2FIH%2F&MIVAL=ihtIH&WEB_HOST=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.intelihealth.com&va=child&search.x=14&search.y=10

reply from: scopia19822

"No child was lost. He is just a bitter old fart with too much time on his hands."
Maybe you can say that to justify your own abortion. So what did I lose? Tell me was it a chicken, a tadpole? I was 18 weeks along, do a search on fetal development at that stage and look at the pictures and tell me what you see. Yoda lost a child, like I lost a child. I thought you were better than most of the other proaborts above the personal attacks and name calling... guess I was wrong.

reply from: yoda

Even a wolf in sheep's clothing takes off the clothes every once in a while.

reply from: yoda

Got to keep making them doughnuts, nancy might want some more.

reply from: nancyu

Not this morning, thanks yoda. I have way too much leftover cake from my daughter's birthday!

reply from: yoda

Oh my, I think someone wrote a song about that, didn't they?

reply from: yoda

Time to make the doughnuts again....

reply from: yoda

Time to make the doughnuts......

reply from: nancyu

Wake up Yoda! When are those donuts going to be ready!

reply from: yoda

They're coming out of the oven right now!
What flavor do you want this morning?

reply from: nancyu

Well, I guess I'm too late for donuts today, I hope there's some chocolate chip tomorrow!

reply from: yoda

Okay, gotcha chocko chips right here....... and only a day old!

reply from: nancyu

I've gained ten pounds just thinking about them

reply from: yoda

Time to make the pumpkin pie........ and the sweet potato pie.... (without sugar, of course).....

reply from: yoda

Man that was good...... I can hardly wait for Christmas dinner!

reply from: yoda

Hey, everyone who is interested in getting back to a discussion of abortion, and NOT fall into vex's many, many traps, please put all "vex names" on iggy and for heaven's sake..... at least don't reproduce/quote his/her nasty posts in your post, okay?
Just looking over some of the threads this morning makes me wonder what this forum is really supposed to be about.

reply from: yoda

The weekly report from the front lines:
What excitement. What drama. What tragedy.

Babies died inside the abortuary here today, and that's the sad bottom line. The circus outside was just a side show put on by those coming to do the killing.

The first sideshow was a "plus size" woman in a white "tent top" who decided to lecture me about my photography. "These young girls are the victims here", she declared. When I replied that I thought the babies being killed here were the real victims "here", she said "Well that's your opinion, isn't it?" "Yes it is", I replied.

She then said something on the order of "come over here and say that", to which I replied that there was a court order prohibiting me from doing so. "Do you have a court order to take pictures here?", she wanted to know. "No, I don't need one", I replied. She then opined that my photographing was "illegal", and I advised her to immediately call the police if that was her opinion. "I'll put a stop to this" she threatened... and I shook and trembled in my boots, of course.

We then were treated to the spectacle of a quartet of juvenile misfits in a dilapidated clunker, giggling at us, or maybe at my "I AM A PERSON" sign. As they walked toward the entrance, one of the two girls yelled something about "It's not a... (fill in the blank)". Then one of the young men exposed his posterior to us, which pose I captured and have posted on my website. One of the young women giggled and laughed almost uncontrollably. Somehow, she saw humor in the situation.

Spectacular photos are at: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/112908fullmoontoday.html

reply from: yoda

December 2, 2008
Families with Down syndrome children to participate in March for Life
This is fabulous news. Makes me want to cry just thinking about it. Here's the press release emailed to me. An attached note stated the group has invited Sarah Palin to participate. That would be wonderful....
For more information:
Eileen Haupt: 802-899-4882
Leticia Velasquez: 860-556-9116
Families who have children
with Down Syndrome
to march together in the 2009 March for Life in DC
to raise awareness about the high incidence
of aborting babies with Down syndrome
Leticia Velasquez and Eileen Haupt, two mothers who each have a daughter with Down syndrome, are organizing a group of families who have children with Down syndrome to march together in the 2009 March for Life in Washington, D.C. We are calling our endeavor KIDS (Keep Infants with Down Syndrome) to raise awareness about the 90% abortion rate of babies with Down syndrome and to challenge the misinformation that often leads mothers who receive a prenatal diagnosis of Down syndrome to seek an abortion.
WHEN: Thursday, January 22, 2009, 11:30 a.m. to Noon
WHERE: National Right to Life Committee, 512 10th Street, N.W., Washington, D.C.
WHAT: Meeting place for families who have children with Down syndrome (and other prenatally diagnosed conditions) to walk together in the 2009 March for Life
Leticia and Eileen's bios are posted on page 2.
Leticia Velasquez is a mother of three daughters and lives in CT. Her 6-year-old daughter, Christina, has Down syndrome. Leticia has a background in journalism. She is the creator of several blogs and writes for several publications, including the National Catholic Register and Faith & Family magazine. Her recent article published in the NCR entitled "Down, Hero Dad, and Palin" reported on the recent passage of the "Prenatally and Postnatally Diagnosed Conditions Awareness Act," and the influence that Sarah Palin and the late Tom Vander Woude had on the success of the bill becoming law.
Eileen Haupt is the mother of two daughters and lives in VT. After her daughter Sadie was born with Down syndrome almost 10 years ago, she was drawn into the pro-life movement when she learned about the high incidence of aborting babies with Down syndrome. She is on the board of the VT Right to Life Committee and is the Alternate Delegate from VT to the board of the National Right to Life Committee. She ran as a candidate for state representative in her district in VT in the 2008 elections.
posted on December 2, 2008 8:47 AM
http://www.jillstanek.com/arch...ilies_with_d.html#more

reply from: yoda

Gotta make them doughnuts.....

reply from: 4given

Oh Yoda! That is quite a Saturday. I truly admire your free time spent doing what you can to save lives. So a beast and cheeks all on the same shift. One may think it was oh say a Monday on the forum. How unfortunate. The way I saw the laughter was that it may have been more anxiety driven. IDK. I am certain you got close to at least one person and they may just have the desire to research abortion. I guess one never knows. Thanks for the update though. I was wondering.. I know you were makin the doughnuts, but I was wondering what they tasted like. Bless you!

reply from: Rosalie

Abrasive, rude "pro-lifer" with no respect for women? Not really a surprise, just a really sad standard.

reply from: yoda

Thanks, but I want to correct one thing: there is no such thing as "free time". I can't find enough time in the day. And I can't figure out how I ever found time to go to work.

reply from: nancyu

Abrasive, rude "pro-lifer" with no respect for women? Not really a surprise, just a really sad standard.
Yoda has great respect for women, that was not a woman.

reply from: Rosalie

And what was it, if not a woman? NONE of you "pro-lifers" have much respect for women, and many of you have none. At least don't pretend otherwise.

reply from: yoda

I gotta wonder, what the h*ll is she talking about?
Wait, never mind, I don't really want to know........

reply from: yoda

Time to make the doughnuts, and remind people that there are couples waiting on a list to adopt newborns in their own state...... at parentprolifes.com.

reply from: yoda

Gotta go make them doughnuts, and remind people that there are couples waiting on a list to adopt newborns in their own state...... at http://www.parentprolifes.com. [/a]

reply from: 4given

Bumping for the true and a great resource.

reply from: yoda

This has been a really long week here in KnoxPatch, folks, so this post may be long.

On Tuesday night we lost an incomparable prolife champion, Robert (Bob) M. For well over 25 years Bob has been a champion and a spokesman for the unborn in front of the abortuary on Concord Street. He went to jail for them, and he, along with his wife Cynthia, dedicated nearly every Saturday morning to them. He was a quiet, dignified man with a spine of steel. He was an inspiration to all of us here, and the word "hero" seems to have been made for him. He will be deeply missed. Please keep Cynthia in your thoughts and prayers.

On Saturday morning, we think we may have seen the "Obama Effect" in the actions of the local police for the first time. Two car loads of them showed up, and then a few minutes later two more came. They told the three men down in front of the abortuary that they "had to move because they were on private property", which was a bald-faced lie because they were on the public right of way. One of them mentioned that fact, and was threatened with arrest if he "stayed where he was". Another man asked if the side street would be all right, and was told it would. So they all three came over to where I and two more were standing, and stayed with us for the rest of the hour. At about 8:30 the four women from St. Francis showed up, and took up their usual position in front of the abortuary, but across the street. The were not accosted or intimidated as far as I know, nor were the other dozen or so who usually show up at 9AM. The four police cars departed around 8:45, but one of them came back in a few minutes, apparently to check on us.

We are going to bring copies of the original court order from the 1970's, and the official platt of the area, showing exactly where the public right of way is, next Saturday.

Photos are at: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/12608copsgetpushy.html [/a]

Saturday afternoon, we set up the Crosses for the Unborn display in west Knoxville. Those photos can be seen at: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/12608crossesmoved.html [/a]

reply from: faithman

Sorry for the loss of your friend. Sounds like a true man I would have enjoyed knowing. May his memory inspire others to defend the innocent and defenceless.

reply from: 4given

So sorry Yoda for the loss of your friend. My sympathy and prayers go out to those in pain and especially Cynthia.
Yeah.. I suspect the troops will be out and about to shut the mouths of the innocent and discourage and distract the dilligent. Has this ever happened before there Yoda? Has a virtual motorcade (those on duty on the district) given you trouble or attention previously?

reply from: Teresa18

Sorry to hear that, Yoda. With the moral conditions today, we can use all the good soldiers we can get. It sounds like Bob served the Lord well, and I bet there is a reward for him in heaven.

reply from: yoda

Thanks. He will always be a hero in the Knoxville prolife community.

reply from: yoda

Thanks. Only on rare occasions, and never to this extent before. This is a new low, and we're not taking it lying down.

reply from: yoda

Thanks. Bob is the most deserving human being I ever knew of. He has shown us how to live properly, and die with dignity. He has inspired me to aspire to his example, but I doubt I can ever equal him in that regard.

reply from: yoda

Gotta get to bed, so I can get up soon and make the doughnuts.....

reply from: erikasdaddy

Awesome site! My wife and I were on it while we were waiting for our baby girl! They also have a section were adoptive parents can communicate about possible scams while they are listed there.

reply from: 4given

Were you the recieving or giving end of that blessing? It is an awesome site and I am so thankful that there are people distributing these profiles. We are in the adoption process right now.

reply from: yoda

Good on you!
And thanks!

reply from: yoda

Got to go make those darn doughnuts......

reply from: yoda

Yesterday's report from the front lines:
The weather was frosty, the crowd was small, and the police were a no-show... or at least they were only a drive by. One single KPD car came by a little after 8, and glanced at us and drove on by.

We were back at our usual spots down in front, where they told us last Saturday that we'd be arrested if we stayed. We were better prepared this time, we all had copies of the original 1979 permanent injunction that governs what we can and cannot do at the mill, and we all knew we needed to get the name, badge number, and reason for any orders we were given. We even had pens and paper to write it all down, and I was there with my camcorder. And nothing much happened.

The customer count was pretty small, compared to their usual quota of babies killed, maybe a half dozen or so cars with actual customers showed up. I only got one photo that I can reproduce, due to my forgetting to change a camera setting before shooting, and the fact that I didn't have a good angle from down in front.

Oh, btw, the permanent injunction that I made copies of and handed out was given me a couple years ago by our departed recently brother Bob. It seems as if he's still doing his job, even now.

reply from: faithman

Amazing how the seeds we plant produce fruit even after we are gone. Kinda encourages us to Keep planting. If anyone would like some IAAP seed, let me know. Your legacy garden could exstend for generations to come. It might even save the genration of tomorrow, from the present selfish one. The greatest gift we can give our nation these holidays, is an established personhood for her posterity, in fulfilment of the promised blessing of our fore fathers in the pre amble of the constitution. [Count forty words into the pre-amble of the constitution. 40 being the number for generations.] Now look that word up in a dictionary.

reply from: yoda

Which one? Legacy? Posterity? Scanc?

reply from: yoda

Time to make them doughnuts again.........

reply from: yoda

Gotta keep those doughnuts coming.......

reply from: yoda

Time to make them doughnuts again........

reply from: yoda

Got them doughnuts made, anyone want one?

reply from: yoda

Dang, those doughnuts get gone in a hurry! More on the way!

reply from: yoda

Okay, I've got a hot batch of doughnuts with great big words on them...
Legacy, Posterity, and Scanc written with little candy sprinkles....

reply from: yoda

Hot doughnuts, get 'em while they're hot!

reply from: yoda

Yet another uneventful Saturday passed at the abortuary in old Knoxpatch today, at least it was peaceful on the streets outside. Inside, well you know what that was like. No police harassment today, not even so much as a wave to us as the one patrol car drove by at the usual 8:30AM time. Don't know what the long term plans are down at police headquarters, because when I called them last week they said they didn't know anything about the four cruisers full of cops that hassled us. Maybe it's just a matter of one or two proabort cops filling occasionally in for a shift captain who is off for some reason, and they decide to use their temporary power to abuse our civil rights. Whatever the reason, we continue.

Business was up today, unfortunately for the babies. The front row was nearly full, kind of like when you see a dozen or so buzzards light close to a fallen animal.

The last photo shows one car that I think was changing their mind and leaving.

See the photos at: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/122008nosantaforme.html

reply from: 4given

Praying for your blessing there and elsewhere. So frustrating. Bless you Yoda for being steadfast despite!
Could be any number of things; a girlfriend, sister, wife or friend. Any excuse to belittle an oath and try to hinder the truth from being told. I wonder if they would ever be there to protect pro-lifers. Especially after the images you have of pro-choice conflict. I think you summed it up here:"..their temporary power to abuse our civil rights"

reply from: Teresa18

I'm sorry to hear that, Yoda. We can only hope those women weren't there for abortions, but some probably were. I'm glad to hear that someone changed their minds and left. Hoepfully at least one baby was saved.

reply from: yoda

Yeah. Most of the proabort men are either worried about having to pay child support, or are wimps who do what their female masters tell them to.
Almost all of them are, from what I hear. Saturday is their big day, and they bring in an abortionist. He doesn't come there to give out BC pills.

reply from: yoda

Doughnuts, fresh hot doughnuts.......

reply from: 4given

All the above.
Awesome! I haven't had doughnuts in 20 years, but I would love a batch of posterity. I used to like chocolate cake with coconut. Can I have the words pain-stakingly added in coconut? Thanks friend. I may take some sprinkled legacy and a couple of scancs to drop at certain dwellings.. Do you make scanc in the munchkin size? What again?!
*tempted.. but no this doesn't apply to any certain poster.. *

reply from: yoda

Yes, we have a special "scanc" dougnut with the letters spelled out in your choice of coconut and/or candy sprinkles. They are very popular.

reply from: yoda

Got to bump this thread so Lib can find where I called some female a name....

reply from: 4given

Come again. I am quite sure in my countless hours reading here that I have yet to read that.. Oh wait.. the beastly sort that was on attack here (via clinic photos)?! Amusing. I think I mentioned something about her.. but hey, the pro-abort ugly comes into play once again.
Ready for a long-awaited doughnut!

reply from: Teresa18

I'm sorry to hear the majority are there for abortions. It's sad how they walk in about to kill their child with little to no shame on their faces.

reply from: yoda

That's one of the things you notice there..... some do appear ashamed, as they cover their faces, others appear proud to be a baby killer. Either way, a baby dies.

reply from: yoda

Okay, WHOM did I call a name in that post?
Or let me put it this way:
Okay, WHOM did I call a name in that post?
Would you like me to rephrase that question?
How about
Okay, WHOM did I call a name in that post?

reply from: Rosalie

So you think surreptitious name-calling doesn't count?

reply from: yoda

No response from Lib, I see.......

reply from: yoda

Fresh hot doughnuts, all with politically correct words on them......( but I have a few under the counter with "scanc" on them, for all you politically incorrect people out there...... and you know who you are!)

reply from: faithman

Any name you call a low life scum bag degenerate maggot punk baby killer scanc counts just fine in my book.

reply from: yoda

Yeah, well the fact is that putting a word on a doughnut is not "surreptitious name calling", is it?
Seems like someone has a bad conscience........

reply from: yoda

Gotta make them doughnuts....... and fix them to order, with whatever words a customer wants on them... naughty or nice...... whatever...

reply from: yoda

Ole Knoxpatch was foggy Saturday morning, just the kind of weather baby killers like to hide in.
But on the plus side, we were comforted to know that we still maintain our position as #1....... something or other. See photo #8.
No Keystone Kops showed up today either. I just don't know what we have to do to get a little police harassment around here.
The photos are at: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/122708foggydeath.html

Happy New Year, I guess.

reply from: yoda

Fresh doughnuts, get 'em while they're hot.....customized naughty words spelled out on them...... if they're not too long......

reply from: yoda

Doughnuts, get yer fresh doughnuts here.......

reply from: 4given

Originally posted by: yodavater
There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: ">http://www.parentprofiles.com
I copied all the couples (three) listed for the state of Tennessee, and handed them out at the abortuary this morning. We rarely get a chance to talk to the "customers", but sometimes when we do it might be helpful to be able to show them the names and photos of couples and families wanting to adopt in this state.
And we can answer any of them who yell at us and say: "Well are YOU going to adopt this child if I don't abort?" Most of use are too old to be considered adoptive parents anyway, but we can put them in contact with people who are already pre-screened.
Check out the website.

reply from: 4given

Nothing is hidden.. How sickening.
Indeed you do.
Hopefully that means they were serving the troubled masses in the community. The idea that they would harrass you at all.. Enjoy the respite. I am sure it is temporal under Obama.
Likewise friend. Prayer, hope and faith in some resolve.

reply from: yoda

Yeah, I wonder if they will be back after the inauguration. If so, I hope that we can get some explanation from them this time as to exactly what law they are accusing us of violating. It's frustrating not knowing what kind of a criminal you are, ya know?

reply from: yoda

Gotta make those doughnuts, and put those sprinkle words on them that nancy wanted me to..... uh huh.....

reply from: LiberalChiRo

Okay, WHOM did I call a name in that post?
Or let me put it this way:
Okay, WHOM did I call a name in that post?
Would you like me to rephrase that question?
How about
Okay, WHOM did I call a name in that post?
Women who abort.

reply from: yoda

Women who abort.
WHERE? WHERE IS THAT POST?????
WHAT "NAME" DID I CALL "WOMEN WHO ABORT"?????
And why did you wait so long to come up with such a lame answer?

reply from: 4given

Women who abort.
WHERE? WHERE IS THAT POST?????
WHAT "NAME" DID I CALL "WOMEN WHO ABORT"?????
And why did you wait so long to come up with such a lame answer?
When all else fails, she resorts to dishonest slander. Most people know far better though.

reply from: smom

Yodavater, is that you out there putting up all those crosses for those babies?

reply from: yoda

Around Knoxville, yes. I'm one of "the gang" that moves them about once a month from one churchyard to another. It's a labor of love.

reply from: yoda

True..... I probably shouldn't get upset about it, it happens so often.

reply from: LiberalChiRo

Stop playing word games. In that thread, you talk about all of the pseudo-legal photos you take of people walking into a Women's Clinic. You have called women who abort "scancs" in the past, and then you say you're "making donuts" with "scanc" written on them... it doesn't take rocket science to figure it out.

reply from: yoda

"Pseudo-legal"?
What in HELL is that? Are you some kind of jack leg lawyer, or what? If you've got a problem with my photos, SUE ME IN COURT OR SHUT THE HELL UP!!
Oh, and it's a good thing it doesn't take a rocket scientist to "figure it out", isn't it? Built any rockets lately? You can't find anything to attack me with, so you just make something up out of thin air..... and I don't think there's a word in the English language to adequately describe that. What a sad, sad existence one must lead to have to scour the forum to find a single thing to attack me with.....
On a brighter note, my video has finally been approved on ProLifeTube:
http://www.prolifetube.org/video/cureforabadday-1

reply from: 4given

Not true.
At least be honest.
Adorable video btw. Anything interesting happen at the clinic today? I can't imagine how painful it must become to see countless women come and go.. leaving their heritage as waste.

reply from: nancyu

I would like a a sugar glazed honey pumpkin muffin, and a chocolate covered, peppermint coated, strawberry, butter scotch donut, please. On second thought skip the donut; that one might upset my stomach.

reply from: yoda

Nah, pretty dreary and routine. They came, they killed, and they left. We saw one or two turn around, but we don't know the circumstances. And the cops left us alone, for the third consecutive week.
It is painful at times, it certainly is not something I would do for any other reason.

reply from: yoda

Okay, I'll just give you the toppings instead.

reply from: LiberalChiRo

Not true.
At least be honest.
Adorable video btw. Anything interesting happen at the clinic today? I can't imagine how painful it must become to see countless women come and go.. leaving their heritage as waste.
I laugh because he's resorted to screaming at me... Because he's ashamed to admit his insults.

reply from: yoda

I would gladly admit to them if you'd just point one out.....
But no, you keep on and on making generalizations.... as if anyone gave a damn about your opinion.
Just like we don't give a damn about your "education", that you keep on and on and on about.....

reply from: LiberalChiRo

I would gladly admit to them if you'd just point one out.....
But no, you keep on and on making generalizations.... as if anyone gave a damn about your opinion.
Just like we don't give a damn about your "education", that you keep on and on and on about.....
Strange accusation since in the last post to you I didn't mention it at all... but YOU did. Also, placing quotation marks around "education" means you are implying it was not an education at all, and that I am not educated, which most people would find insulting.

reply from: yoda

Can anyone translate that garbage? Or are you just as bewildered as I am?

reply from: LiberalChiRo

Why did you place quotation marks (these things -> "" in case you don't know) around the word education in your post to me?

reply from: Rosalie

Probably because he's uneducated ANd an idiot and he is green with envy when it comes to education of others.

reply from: LiberalChiRo

I think he actually has some kind of higher education.

reply from: scopia19822

"I think he actually has some kind of higher education."
I know that I have. I have 2 years of college. Eventually I hope to go back to college and become a midwife. I am right now reading every pregnancy book, biology and anatomy book that I can get my hands on. I would prefer to apprentice with a lay midwife than go to college. As long as I can pass the NARM exam I should be able to practice as a lay midwife in most states.

reply from: LiberalChiRo

See? That counts as higher education even if you hadn't had the 2 years of college. What a wonderful job to have :3

reply from: Rosalie

I think he actually has some kind of higher education.
In that case I have no idea why he despises everyone else's achievements.
Good luck!

reply from: scopia19822

"See? That counts as higher education even if you hadn't had the 2 years of college. What a wonderful job to have :3"
My husband is just 12 credits shy of a bachelors degree in psycology. He got sick with the flu in the last semester and the college didnt have a leave of absence policy and sent back all of his financial aid. So instead of a degree he got a bill and he worked real hard to get to the point that he did. My mom has a BS in Criminal Justice with a minor in psycology. I never could do well in a classroom setting. I favor the apprentice system for trades and certain occupations like midwifery.

reply from: nancyu

I missed where he implied this. Could you bump that post?

reply from: LiberalChiRo

Definitely, so am I 100%. My brother didn't do well in the "college thing" either, but he's a damn good airplane mechanic now! We need tons more apprenticeship and technical schools that focus on hands on application and learning. Not everyone is a book learner.

reply from: scopia19822

"Definitely, so am I 100%. My brother didn't do well in the "college thing" either, but he's a damn good airplane mechanic now! We need tons more apprenticeship and technical schools that focus on hands on application and learning. Not everyone is a book learner."
Im a book learner on certain things such as history and learning biology and science. However to learn how to deliever babies, one must take the hands on approach.

reply from: nancyu

I missed where he implied this. Could you bump that post?
That's what I thought. Just more pro abort lies and slander.

reply from: LiberalChiRo

Very true. I had a lot of "book" classes as an art major, but obviously a lot of my classes were hands on as well. Can't be a better artist if you don't make art!

reply from: yoda

People use quotation marks in this way to:
indicate descriptive but unusual, colloquial, folksy words or phrases
indicate descriptive but startling, humorous, or metaphoric words or phrases
distance the writer from the terminology in question so as not to be associated with it. For example, to indicate that a quoted word is not official terminology, or that a quoted phrase pre-supposes things that the author does not necessarily agree with.
indicate special terminology that should be identified for accuracy's sake as someone else's terminology, for example if a term (particularly a controversial term) pre-dates the writer or represents the views of someone else, perhaps without judgement (contrast this neutrally-distancing quoting to the negative use of scare quotes)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotation_mark

Take your pick.

reply from: LiberalChiRo

People use quotation marks in this way to:
indicate descriptive but unusual, colloquial, folksy words or phrases
indicate descriptive but startling, humorous, or metaphoric words or phrases
distance the writer from the terminology in question so as not to be associated with it. For example, to indicate that a quoted word is not official terminology, or that a quoted phrase pre-supposes things that the author does not necessarily agree with.
indicate special terminology that should be identified for accuracy's sake as someone else's terminology, for example if a term (particularly a controversial term) pre-dates the writer or represents the views of someone else, perhaps without judgement (contrast this neutrally-distancing quoting to the negative use of scare quotes)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotation_mark
">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotation_mark
Take your pick.
No. You must state your specific reason for using quotation marks, as that's what I asked. I did not ask for you to hide behind a dictionary.

reply from: 4given

Awesome! And to the others, stop spamming this thread!

reply from: yoda

No, I do not have to do anything. Take your pick, or shove it where the sun don't shine. It's all the same to me.

reply from: yoda

Awesome! And to the others, stop spamming this thread!
Actually, I appreciate the help in keeping it bumped up. A little controversy can't overshadow such a beautiful concept as that website.
Of course, the proaborts avoid this thread like the plague, they hate the idea of promoting adoption. The only "a word" they like is A-bortion!

reply from: faithman

What the bortheads, and the false pro-lifers do not understand, is that there is more to life than this physical world, and our physical bodies. Our bodies are merely the containers of the precious substance Called life. Life has to have that container to express itself in the natural world. Even if the container is flawed, it still makes it possible for the miracle of life to be expressed. Our common value is not found in the container, but what is contained. The life of a womb child is equal to the life contained in all of us. The only legitimate breaking of this container, is if it has the compunction to smash other containers without cause. When you take way the ability to express life, you loose the great privilege to express your own. Evil aggression must be subdued, or no container can have any security from unjust breakage. To take away the possibility of this wonderful spark of life to be expressed, makes this world a darker place, and the rest of us containers a little more impoverished, and alone. Though the womb child is a small container, it does not lessen the value of the life it contains. If fellow containers do not value the life of the womb child container, then they have placed their personhood container in great jeopardy. Anyone who does not see that womb children are fellow human containers, containing life of equal value to their own, is a self destructive fool, drunk on the power to kill, and must be stopped for the sake of the rest of us life containers. It is the life in us that makes us equal, not our degree of ability to express it.

reply from: LiberalChiRo

No, I do not have to do anything. Take your pick, or shove it where the sun don't shine. It's all the same to me.
You refuse to give a straight answer. I'll take that as your defeat.

reply from: yoda

That works for me. What did I lose, and what did you win?

reply from: yoda

Oh it's doughnut time again, early this morning......

reply from: yoda

Gonna make the doughnuts now, so they'll be ready in the morning.

reply from: scopia19822

What is the meaning of the doughnuts?

reply from: yoda

Well, it seems more poetic than just saying "bump", or "thump".
BTW, here's a new item that caught my interest, since we have also been threatened with arrest where we protest:
Ohio Town Violated Pro-Life Advocates' Free Speech Rights, Federal Court Rules
Toledo, OH (LifeNews.com) -- A federal court has ruled than an Ohio city violated the First Amendment rights of pro-life advocates when police officers threatened them with arrest for engaging in pro-life speech. Attorneys with the Alliance Defense Fund had filed a federal lawsuit against the city of Findlay for the pro-life advocates. Last July, the group of pro-life advocates from Wisconsin were in town to share the pro-life perspective on the streets of Findlay with local residents. The chief of police and two officers demanded that the group leave or face arrest and claimed they needed a permit to present their pro-life message on the signs they displayed. Full story at LifeNews.com

reply from: yoda

No comment on the legal decision? Well, it's important to me, since the circumstances are so similar to our situation in Knoxville. And the strange thing is, when those four carloads of police descended upon us, not a single one of them challenged my right to take photographs. Not a one!
I wonder if they just need to hear from some of you proaborts (and your fauxlife allies) on this forum, so they will know how to do their jobs?
Maybe some of you opponents of photography ought to spill the beans on me, and call them, or send them a letter or an email?
Or are you all just HOT AIR????
Yeah, that's what I thought.....

reply from: yoda

Okay, I'm giving all you photography haters one more chance to get me sued or put in jail....
Write, call, or come on down to Knoxville and do your worst..... you'll fit right in with the rest of the proaborts who try constantly to get to me. And you'll fail just as miserably.
Or all you all talk, like Bowel Movement?

reply from: yoda

Might as well make some doughnuts, none of those cowardly proaborts or fauxlifers are going to report me, or "turn on the light" as one of the baby killers said..... they have no guts, no backbone.

reply from: scopia19822

Yoda, I dont agree with taking pics and posting them online. I have however defended your 1st amendment right to do so and I woould fight any efforts that interfered with that right. Am I included as a fauxlifer now?

reply from: yoda

No, I don't recall you threatening me, or saying I ought to be put in jail, or anything like that, so why would I include you in that category?
Nah, there are plenty enough faux lifers around without anyone else joining them. Besides, I think you have to be pretty much "shameless" to join their club.

reply from: scopia19822

"No, I don't recall you threatening me, or saying I ought to be put in jail, or anything like that, so why would I include you in that category? "
Because I didnt agree with it. However what your doing is legal and if I want to say things even if people find them offensive I have to stand up for your right to excercise your rights if I want to be able to excercise mine.

reply from: yoda

Nothing at all wrong with that. There are probably some things you do that I don't agree with, but I don't follow you around making threads attacking you, and you don't do that to me. So we are "cool", in that respect.

reply from: yoda

Bump for all those wishing to threaten me again...... or give their "legal opinion"..... or whatever........

reply from: yoda

Bump for all the "photography haters"

reply from: yoda

Bump for all the "shame-haters".

reply from: nancyu

Got any spam donuts yoda?

reply from: yoda

Just pulled a batch out of the oven, with all those "banned words" on them spelled out in chocolate sprinkles...... would you like a chocolate cherry scanc doughnut?

reply from: yoda

Bump for all the haters who are so shameful, and all the shamers who are so hateful. A list of their names can be found at the bottom of this post.

reply from: yoda

Bump for all the pregnant women who are looking for someone to adopt their baby.

reply from: yoda

Bump for all the parents wanting to adopt a baby.

reply from: yoda

Bump for the babies that might be saved by the website http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: faithman

Your bumping of this thred is "shameless"!!!!!!!

reply from: yoda

Yes it is, but it is HATEFUL of you to point that out, you hater!

reply from: faithman

Speaking of "hater", have you actually read your "status" list lately? Snicker snicker..... Strange how the truth can be funny as well in the hands of a profetus hater.

reply from: yoda

I give up..... what's a "status list"?

reply from: nancyu

I think he means this ^^^ status list.

reply from: yoda

Oh, that one...... yeah I copies CL2's list... looks pretty accurate to me. And funny, too.

reply from: yoda

Bump for all the babies that might get to live, by someone seeing the website http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Time to go make the doughnuts, before they run out, and tell everyone thinking about abortion to go to http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Gosh those doughnuts go fast. Wish abortion would go away as fast.
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: LiberalChiRo

No, I don't recall you threatening me, or saying I ought to be put in jail, or anything like that, so why would I include you in that category?
Nah, there are plenty enough faux lifers around without anyone else joining them. Besides, I think you have to be pretty much "shameless" to join their club.
I didn't do any of the above either, and rather have spent the last week defending your photography as well.

reply from: yoda

Doughnut time again..... Saturday morning specials.... with special words sprinkled on them... they spell out "http://www.parentprofiles.com----

reply from: yoda

A lower temperature and a lower number of baby killing parents greeted us at the abortion mill today. After missing last week with a nasty cold, (and also missing the monthly cross moving party), I returned to the scene of the most gruesome, most despicable human activity on earth today. I take no joy in that fact.
On a brighter note, no cops came down on us, no customers attacked us, no one sued me for "invasion of privacy", and no one even made dirty hand signals at us. I guess it was just too cold for the "bad guys" today.
Today's photos are at: http://wsm.ezsitedesigner.com/Preview.jsp?Preview.go?op=show_live&unique_id=1232214525265

This is the last weekend before the inauguration of the most rabidly proabortion president in our history. Who knows what new attacks will come our way next week? Trial by fire, so they say, tempers us and makes us stronger.

reply from: faithman

No thanks. I don't like the dead fish after taste

reply from: faithman

But you are a shameless picture taking hater. So there!!

reply from: yoda

It's okay for me to shame you if you tell a lie, but NOT okay to shame anyone who is about to kill their baby, according to the resident "shame expert".
Now if you can't remember that, I'll put it in sprinkles on a doughnut for you.

reply from: faithman

No thanks. I don't like the dead fish after taste

reply from: yoda

You are reposting my spelling mistake just to SHAME me!! You are an old hater and a meanie!!

reply from: faithman

I think that is actually meanie and hater.

reply from: yoda

Then you are a shameful hater, and a hateful shamer! So there!

reply from: yoda

bump for all the haters, and the shamers, and the meanies, and the real prolifers who do whatever they can to save babies. Doughnuts are on the way.
Thinking about abortion or adoption? Go to http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Gotta make them doughnuts now.... they're going to need a lot of them up at the inauguration... to take their minds off all the babies that Obama will cause to be killed.... can't be bothered with something as tiny as a gestating baby, or a "fetus" as carole calls it.

reply from: LiberalChiRo

... And every other medical professional.

reply from: yoda

Gosh, I'm feeling so bad today.... farismear has been committing the sin of distraction by trying to expose my evil motives..... and I thought I had hidden them so well..... he just keeps on smearing and attacking, not showing the love he says we are supposed to show those we disagree with (like proaborts).. I guess I'm going to have to tell him I'm a proabort so he will treat me better........ (snifff....)
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: nancyu

Let's get virtually drunk and wallow in self pity...

reply from: nancyu

Let's get virtually drunk and wallow in self pity...
Wake up and smell the coffee Yoda. That's enough wallowing for one day.

reply from: yoda

I know it. I've got to snap out of it and forget about being persecuted by that nasty farismear and his sins of distraction, or whatever. There are other nice people in the world who don't attack me constantly, so I've got to focus on them and quit whining.
Want a doughnut?
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: nancyu

I know it. I've got to snap out of it and forget about being persecuted by that nasty farismear and his sins of distraction, or whatever. There are other nice people in the world who don't attack me constantly, so I've got to focus on them and quit whining.
Want a doughnut?
http://www.parentprofiles.com
Whatcha got on special?

reply from: yoda

I have some day old doughnuts that are free, but they have naughty words on them spelled out in multi colored sprinkles.
One of them says "Weenie" on it.
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Yesterday was the first Saturday at the mill under the Obamanation, and nothing unusual happened. That alone is shocking enough, but now Sunday morning has come and still no swarming hord of proaborts has descended angrily upon our "Scrufty Little River Town" in the hills of east Tennessee.
Today at two we'll have our annual March for Life, so we'll see how that goes. I'll post photos.
Yesterday's photos are at: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/12409moreblood.html

reply from: yoda

Our March for Life in Knoxville today set a new record! Over 750 came out in the cold air to show their opposition to elective abortion, and that's almost double what we had last year.
Apparently, prolifers around here realize that having a proabort president means we cannot depend on politicians any longer, we must do it ourselves.
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/12509marchforlife.html

reply from: yoda

Prospective parents in YOUR state for YOUR baby can be found at:
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

A humane and decent alternative to abortion:
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump this time for ole "Grizzly"..........
Looking for prospective parents for your unborn child? Go to: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump this time for ole "Weenie".......... and his new disguise....
Looking for prospective parents for your unborn child? Go to: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: faithman

I resemble that remark!!!!

reply from: 4given

That's wonderful! I have spoken to many people who have yet to be active. Several have asked me what they can do. Obama, in that respect has been what the lukewarm may have needed to stand up. Cold air, huh? Does it really get cold in TN?

reply from: yoda

Yeah, it gets pretty cold here sometimes. I think the record is 24 below.
I agree that the election of a rabidly proabort president has actually energized the prolife movement in general.
Hey, did you know that we have one "prolife" poster here who claims that Barack is actually a closet prolifer, and has just been pretending to be proabort? Isn't that a great big HOOT???
Looking for prospective adoptive parents? http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: 4given

What?! Who? My guess is it is someone trying to justify their vote. That is laughable. I do know that there are a lot of people praying for his conversion and that God would give him a heart for the unborn. Hasn't happened yet though if ever.

reply from: yoda

I'd say that's pretty accurate.... Lib is the one who put forth that "theory" about the Obamanator.

reply from: yoda

Bump for the Weenie!
Abortion alternative: Adoption!
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: faithman

What? you haven't been thrown in jail for this thred yet? I thought you broke some kind of copy right law? Or was that a borthead ploy to oppress effective action? [kinda like what fartamir does against real pro-lifers in favor of a moral degenerate pro-death scanc] giz griz

reply from: yoda

Yeah, I was as nervous as a cat in a room full of rocking chairs this morning at the mill....... scared to death that A. I would get arrested, or B. scopia would show up and attack me, or C. Someone would sue me, or D. Weenie would show up and talk me to death...... but none of that happened!
Where is their hero Barack? Why hasn't he sent the Marines and the National Guard down here to capture me?

reply from: galen

hey Yoda my Hubby and i are thinking about adoption again... maybe we should have you post a web adress for us?
then you will know its 'legal'...

reply from: yoda

I'd be happy to do that.......

reply from: faithman

Give um time......... griz griz......just give them a little time. Maybe the backwards collar wearing traitor pavone hasn't offered enough blood money yet, to pay to have you sold out to the borthead government. He is personally against the death penalty, but like the sanhedran, has no prob paying 30 pieces to have the "romans" do it for him.

reply from: yoda

Yeah, that's a sad commentary. I really think some of the things he does are very good, and apparently so does Mark, since FP is a "co-host" on Mark's monthly DVD show. And of course, I like to quote some of his sayings.
But the reward thing is disturbing, to say the least. I chalk it up to very bad judgment and a bent moral compass. He ought to realize that he's just hiring someone to do the violence for him by offering that reward.

reply from: yoda

The weather at dawn was as perfect as a winter day can be in East Tennessee. Cold, calm, and clear. But the sight that greeted the morning sun was as ugly as anything East Tennessee has ever seen. Following the lead of their new President, people came to "exercise their right to kill their babies". The fool leads, and the fools follow. We don't deserve mercy.
On the "bright side", no police swat team descended on us in multiple vehicles with weapons drawn and full battle gear on. No lawyers in pin stripe suits delivered summons to us, no wild eyes proaborts or "prolifers" attacked us or tried to damage my camera, and none of the customers even told us that we were # 1.
One car, however, did purposely drive very close to us, and blew his horn at us in an angry fashion, followed by a "You're # 1" hand signal. We were flattered at the attention, of course, and waved at him in a friendly manner.
Today's photos are at: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/13109obamasbabies.html

reply from: 4given

Phew.. well that is a relief.. So sad looking at the photos. The little girl smiled for your camera. I imagine that would have been robbed if she knew of her sibling that may have just been killed. Then the couple with the McDonald's bag.. she has a nice baby bump. One looks like a mother escorting her teens, much like any other to Saturday- except there was no cheerleading practice.. It must occasionally take its toll on you. I know on some days the photos pain my heart more than anger it. Thanks for an update from the field. I'm glad you added the player on your page too btw. I didn't notice it before.

reply from: yoda

Yeah, it does get to me sometimes, and to the others there too. We count the minutes until time to leave, and we only stay about an hour. It's kinda like witnessing some kind of child sacrificing ritual and not being able to do anything about it. It tears at you. And it makes all these silly feuds on the forum seem like child's play. That's the real world, that's the real enemy. But of course, in any war there are the "peaceniks" who want to surrender and show the white flag at the first sign of blood..... or sign a "peace treaty" with the enemy that allows the enemy to keep on killing.......
Sometimes, it's not the enemy in front of you that bothers you the most, it's the "allies" behind you that are the biggest aggravation.
How any "prolifer" can even think about that killing and still stay "calm and unmoved" is beyond me..... if I didn't care any more about it than that I sure would not be out there.
Well, that's my little rant for the day.... how was your day?

reply from: 4given

I don't quite understand it either. It seems like a game or a social gathering at times. My day has been stressful. A friend was induced on Monday (5 weeks early)due to blood pressure. She finally gave birth to a girl, her first baby, at 11 PM on Thurs. They air-lifted 4lb 6 oz Lily Grace because she wasn't breathing Friday morning. She was diagnosed with Strep D, which is unusual for a newborn. They gave her a spinal tap this morning. It is obviously hard for Mom and her baby .. and the ride that is ahead. They aren't giving her too much information, but did allow her to hold her tonight. My mom also gave her cat a flea treatment. The cat has been siezing since this morning, has a lack of neurological function which limits her ability to walk or move. A family member stole my sister's medication given to her for anxiety after she buried her child at a week from SIDS.My sister in law to be stated that "the lady with the octuplets is irresponsible enough to make 8 more women abort on their behalf" I don't have the energy or "love" to respond to her over that muttering.She has it coming though. SIGH. I am almost afraid to take any more calls. But, I thank you for asking. I don't think anyone asked me how I was this week. Here is to tomorrow . Hopefully much better days ahead..

reply from: yoda

I sure hope so. But I won't hold my breath. I will, however, have a beer once in a while.....

reply from: yoda

Bump this one for the WEENIE with the WADDED UP big girl panties.....

reply from: yoda

A nice crowd of people of all ages showed up Sunday afternoon to set up the Crosses for the Unborn display at a Catholic church near Knoxville. It was a great big family event. The weather was perfect, and it was all done in about an hour.
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/2109littlecrosses.html

reply from: yoda

Bump for the babies that might be allowed to live because of the website named in this thread:
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

I am just stunned by the discussion about the abortion of babies of rape. It's like watching a science fiction movie. This is a prolife activist, defended by many prolife posters, who is telling us it's more important for the rape victim to have the legal right to an abortion than whether it's moral or not?
What's going on here? Does anyone know?
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Has anyone seen the Weenie today? I haven't even seen his new aliases...
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

What a day.... "Is she or isn't she"..... if only we had a daisy here so we could pull the petals off and see.....
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: faithman

You can get a giant lawn mower, and run a whole field of them down, and it wouldn't change the reality. Girly feelings mean more than the life of a womb child. People want to be polite, even if that pretension enables thousands to die every day. where is compassion and mercy for the real victim here? How is it "pro-life" to lavish sympathy on killers while they are still killing? We don't need to reason with killers, we need to stop them. I am all for compassion for murderers, it just needds to be exstended thru the bars of justice. Let's protect the innocent before we reach out to killers. Until we stop this pretensious insanity, the children will be slaughtered. Remember them?

reply from: yoda

Don't you mean "blobs"? Isn't that what she called them?

reply from: yoda

Today was probably the first day of the annual "Holiday Harvest" at the abortion mill. Some women who had a little too much "holiday spirit" during the Christmas - New Year holiday are now starting to notice the absence of their period, and flocking to the abortion mill in droves. The Knoxville mill was busy today.
We did receive reassurance of our status as #1 today, so we don't have to worry about that. The same woman who gave us that reassurance also shouted at us "Tell that to the 44 year old man who raped her". That caused me to break my rule, and speak. I shouted back "Her baby did not rape her". Her only answer to that was a one finger salute. Her photo is towards the end, she and her daughter are black.
Last Saturday we saw one couple pull in, and then apparently change their minds and drive off after speaking briefly with one of our protesters. This week we didn't see that.
Slightly warmer weather did make being there a little less stressful, and we did have a good turnout of protesters between 8 and 9AM, about 20 or so.
Photos are at: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/2709holidayharvest.html

Hold the line.

reply from: Rosalie

If you had devoted half of your time and resources to helping women in need, you might actually achieve something. Right now are just a fanatical laughing stock.

reply from: Shenanigans

You should offer screenings of Juno to those murder minded mummies.

reply from: scopia19822

"If you had devoted half of your time and resources to helping women in need, you might actually achieve something. Right now are just a fanatical laughing stock."
Yoda does his own thing, but what is you think I do when I go to the PP in Roanoke Va with women from my parish, I went today and managed to talk one woman into not aborting by giving her simple referral list where she could get assistiance with prenatal care, food, housing, clothing and things she will need for the baby once its born. She had just lost her job like many other Americans, husband is serving in Iraq he was deployed in January and lets face it army pay isnt much. She really couldnt afford the 400 PP wanted for the abortion, but felt it was a small price to pay in the longterm. Now she knows their is help out there and that she can keep her baby. I give women social service and adoption referrals, I dont go shouting babykiller at her.

reply from: yoda

Well, that's an idea...... if only we could get close enough to talk to them.... but we're too dangerous to be allowed within 150 feet of them.... "extremists", you know.

reply from: yoda

I don't either. Did you think I did?

reply from: faithman

http://s81.photobucket.com/albums/j214/yodavater/?action=view¤t=allie.jpg
And you know he already doesn't how?

reply from: Teresa18

Quit looking in the mirror.

reply from: faithman

Quit looking in the mirror.
....snicker....

reply from: yoda

Bump for Rosie, the fanatical proabort laughing stock.......

reply from: Shenanigans

Are you for real?
Maybe if I actually posted that....

reply from: nancyu

You can get a giant lawn mower, and run a whole field of them down, and it wouldn't change the reality. Girly feelings mean more than the life of a womb child. People want to be polite, even if that pretension enables thousands to die every day. where is compassion and mercy for the real victim here? How is it "pro-life" to lavish sympathy on killers while they are still killing? We don't need to reason with killers, we need to stop them. I am all for compassion for murderers, it just needds to be exstended thru the bars of justice. Let's protect the innocent before we reach out to killers. Until we stop this pretensious insanity, the children will be slaughtered. Remember them?
Yeah, remember them.

reply from: scopia19822

"I don't either. Did you think I did?
No, but you have those who do and that does no good. If you want to talk women out of choosing abortion compassion and education is the best thing right now while we lobby Congress and state legislators to outlaw abortion. The woman I encountered yesterday was pregnant with her and her husbands first child. Hes deployed in Iraq and she just lost her job. She just felt she couldnt afford the baby. I gave her resources and that was enough to convince her that abortion was wrong and I did mention that what if something happned to her husband God forbid, at least if she had the baby she would a tangebile fruit of the love she shared with her husband and would have the child to remember him by. I think if she had the abortion and he was killed it would be very devastating for her. She loves her husband very much, she found out she was pregnant after he left and "well meaning" friends convinced her that she had to get it "taken care of" .

reply from: yoda

Hey, when the proaborts go on attack, such little details make no difference....

reply from: yoda

But the proaborts are doing everything they can to get us to think about all sorts of other things, things not even related to the unborn....
And you know we're supposed to be "nice" to the proaborts....

reply from: yoda

I've heard of that (from proaborts), but I've never actually seen or heard it.
I think that's another case of someone making a mountain out of a molehill.

reply from: faithman

But the proaborts are doing everything they can to get us to think about all sorts of other things, things not even related to the unborn....
And you know we're supposed to be "nice" to the proaborts....
...and notice how the killer of 3 has yet to substanciate her 10 year old pregnant story? They get to say anything they want to jerk a tear, but don't have to back it up with proof. Then the subject gets changed real quick when we post a real story about a 10 year old who actually had a rape baby, and both survived. Abortion is not the answere to every hard case. It actually adds to the problem. But gosh!! Let's not confuse the poor dear with the truth.......

reply from: yoda

How are we ever going to make friends with the proaborts if we keep on saying bad things about abortion? Don't you know that kissing up to them is more important than anything else? </sarcasm>

reply from: faithman

How are we ever going to make friends with the proaborts if we keep on saying bad things about abortion? Don't you know that kissing up to them is more important than anything else?
my bad....

reply from: yoda

Here's to the babies that we can't see, can't hear, and can't touch.... locked away in their little prisons awaiting executions for the crime of existence...
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: scopia19822

"I think that's another case of someone making a mountain out of a molehill."
They have a group of protesters that sometimes will go to the PP in Roanoke Va and do that, they have a permit and as long as they stay off the property they can get away with it. I have yet to encounter them and I hope I never do but I dont think the women from the local parish we work with up there would lie about such a thing.

reply from: yoda

I have no reason to think they would lie, either. But the reason I say that's a molehill and not a mountain is that I seriously doubt that it hurts the effort to get people turned around.
We have a woman here who sometimes tells the abortion bound women that if they have an abortion here, their baby's grave will be a sewer or a landfill. Now, that's pretty graphic, isn' it? And yet, I know of one woman for sure who was turned around just because she heard her say that.
And when you get right down to brass tacks, isn't that what people go to abortion clinics for? Don't they go there to kill babies? It may be plain and blunt, but it's still the truth, isn't it?
It isn't how I would go about trying to turn people around, and we don't have any here who use that tactic, but as long as it isn't lying I can't condemn anyone for saying it. It's a matter of judgment as to how much bluntness you want to use in protesting, and we really can't substitute our judgment for someone else's, when they are making a sincere effort to save babies.

reply from: yoda

Bump for truth and bluntness........
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: Rosalie

Quit looking in the mirror.
That's all you have to say?
Well, I guess that pretty much illustrates your intelligence and the power of your arguments.

reply from: faithman

What the bortheads, and the false pro-lifers do not understand, is that there is more to life than this physical world, and our physical bodies. Our bodies are merely the containers of the precious substance Called life. Life has to have that container to express itself in the natural world. Even if the container is flawed, it still makes it possible for the miracle of life to be expressed. Our common value is not found in the container, but what is contained. The life of a womb child is equal to the life contained in all of us. The only legitimate breaking of this container, is if it has the compunction to smash other containers without cause. When you take way the ability to express life, you loose the great privilege to express your own. Evil aggression must be subdued, or no container can have any security from unjust breakage. To take away the possibility of this wonderful spark of life to be expressed, makes this world a darker place, and the rest of us containers a little more impoverished, and alone. Though the womb child is a small container, it does not lessen the value of the life it contains. If fellow containers do not value the life of the womb child container, then they have placed their personhood container in great jeopardy. Anyone who does not see that womb children are fellow human containers, containing life of equal value to their own, is a self destructive fool, drunk on the power to kill, and must be stopped for the sake of the rest of us life containers. It is the life in us that makes us equal, not our degree of ability to express it.
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reply from: faithman

Killers have to blur that line to justify their evil deeds. Darkness avoids light, because it is exposed for what it is in light. The borties want to cover their issue, and as the profetii killer has said herself," fight tooth and toenail" against the light of personhood for the womb child. Personhood is the light. The line drawn in the sand. The distinction between false and true. If things seem shadowy, it is no time to compromise. It is time to turn up the light of personhood until there is no more "what if" shadows. Just the simple fact of womb child personhood, and the final judgment of citizen jurist as to what punishment for those who destroy the preborn. That is the way it is for the born person, that is the way it should be with the womb child person.

reply from: yoda

The only reason I can think of for anyone to oppose personhood for the unborn is that they don't want the unborn to be treated as human persons. That applies to both the prolifers and the proaborts.
There is no other reason, period.

reply from: Rosalie

That's really awesome and I'm glad for you and for the woman. It is SO IMPORTANT that women realize that there is never just one option. There should never be just one option.
I have just become involved in a project that will help many women who would like to have a child but cannot afford day care. And I couldn't be happier with it.

reply from: Rosalie

Juno is not a pro-life movie.

reply from: faithman

Killers have to blur that line to justify their evil deeds. Darkness avoids light, because it is exposed for what it is in light. The borties want to cover their issue, and as the profetii killer has said herself," fight tooth and toenail" against the light of personhood for the womb child. Personhood is the light. The line drawn in the sand. The distinction between false and true. If things seem shadowy, it is no time to compromise. It is time to turn up the light of personhood until there is no more "what if" shadows. Just the simple fact of womb child personhood, and the final judgment of citizen jurist as to what punishment for those who destroy the preborn. That is the way it is for the born person, that is the way it should be with the womb child person.

reply from: yoda

Bump for the butt-nuggets.....

reply from: Yuuki

Juno is not a pro-life movie.
She has an abortion? Not from what I heard.

reply from: Rosalie

Juno is not a pro-life movie.
She has an abortion? Not from what I heard.
She doesn't. She makes a choice to carry to term and give the baby up for an adoption. She is NOT forced into anything. On the contrary, her family is very supportive and she is a part of the adoption process, she chooses the parents for her baby herself. THAT is pro-choice. I have to love that you don't see it. That basically proves what I have always said - that you have NO IDEA what pro-choice is. Pro-choice is not "you should have an abortion" or "you have to have an abortion". Pro-choice means "You have options. Consider them, we can give you information about every option, and whatever you decide we will be here to help you through and we'll not judge you." That's pro-choice. Juno is actually a very pro-choice movie.
Did I just burst your bubble? Or not and you will continue living in denial. Is that right?

reply from: scopia19822

"That's really awesome and I'm glad for you and for the woman. It is SO IMPORTANT that women realize that there is never just one option. There should never be just one option."
Women deserve better than abortion and I value all human life so I cannot ever support abortion, however I will do whatever I can with helping women with resources to choose parenting or adoption thats more than one option. I care about women and their well being despite what prochoicers may think. A woman should never have to choose between her job and motherhood, her education or motherhood or have some man who doesnt want to be responisble for his child force/coerce her into an abortion or judgmental family members who are more concearned about what others think than their daughter and granchild. If my son gets a girl pregnant I may not be happy, but I will not stop loving him and I will not let him shirk his responisbilties. In my experience women who have chosen to abort have done so because they felt it was their only option, it was an agonizing decision and if they felt they had more resources or know about the ones out there they would not have aborted. Organizations like PP arent not there to to help women with their options. In 2005 they reported giving 0 adoption referrals I find that disturbing to say the least. They take advantage of women in difficult situations and offer abortions claiming to care about them when all they want to do is line their pockets. As the economy gets worse we are going to see more women going to the abortion clinics and PP couldnt be happier, this bad economy will do wonders for their profits.
"I have just become involved in a project that will help many women who would like to have a child but cannot afford day care. And I couldn't be happier with it."
I think thats great, I would like to see paid maternity benefits be offered so that a woman can choose to stay home with their babies for the first year or so rather than putting them daycare at such a young age.

reply from: yoda

Bump for all the people who help women not to kill their babies......
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: Rosalie

Adoption is NOT a reproductive option, it is a PARENTING option. Reproductive options are either to carry to term (and then make a parenting choice whether to keep the baby or put it up for adoption) and have an abortion.
Women deserve better than having their reproductive choices taken away and having to continue pregnancies against their will. It's just as heinous as forcing them to abort against their will, whether you like that or not, Scopia.
No, she shouldn't HAVE TO choose. She should be able to take at least a year long, paid maternity leave in order to be able to take care of her baby, to bond with the baby and to be with the baby during the super-important first year of the baby's life - IF THAT'S WHAT SHE WANTS. There should be day cares available for all working moms - there are day cares now but they are outrageously overpriced. There should be more workplace crèches/day cares, too. There's a lot wrong with how things are right now but I believe that we will get there eventually. Most of Europe has managed it already and we will get there.
It is never okay to feel like abortion is your only option. That's not what it should be and that's not what pro-choicers support. In order to have a choice, there must be at least two options. And that's what we support.
These are lies that you believe will help you with your propaganda.
Over the years, I have seen so many pro-choice women making such a difference, getting together not only clothes and donations but also creating their own net of babysitting moms so getting at least a part-time job was easier for them and they could actually provide for their families.
We all have done so many great things together that have helped so many women. All of these women involved are pro-choice feminists.
This project I am working on is just perfect. I have been working HARD on it for quite some time and when I presented it to my very feminist, very pro-choice boss, she fell in love with the idea and she said that this will get through, if that's the last thing she'll do.
These are the pro-choicers and feminists you are trashing, these are the pro-choicers and feminists about whose motivations and deeds you are lying because you either don't or won't understand, Scopia. THINK about it.

reply from: yoda

Bump for the butt nuggets.......
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump for all the railroad workers out there....... trying to run over the borties in tunnels of love.......
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Today started off slow, but then picked up as stragglers drifted in between 8 and 9. The staff didn't get the front door open until about 5 minutes after 8, and some of the customers looked desperate as they huddled together in front of the door. I wonder if that's a metaphor for what is to come for them.......?
No police showed up to harrass us, no lawyers served us with papers, and no customers even told us we were still # 1. We had a good showing of protesters, too. A quiet, bloody, rainy day, altogether.
Photos are at: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/21409rainybloody.html

reply from: sk1bianca

abortion is not a reproductive option. when a woman is pregnant reproduction has already taken place. abortion is choosing to be the parent of a dead child.

reply from: yoda

Very, very well said, bianca...

reply from: yoda

Bump for those who are "Unborn in the USA"......
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

And bump for those who have remained steadfast in defense of the defenseless....
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: faithman

Bump just because I like to type out the word bump. bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump bump

reply from: yoda

Bump for the borties who would be okay with aborting gay babies just because they were gay.....

reply from: yoda

Bump for all the cute little butt nuggests that would not mind seeing only gay babies aborted..... all of them......

reply from: yoda

Bumping again for the babies....... the ones that the proaborts are so happy to see die.....
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump for us all........ hang on, it's going to be a rough ride.....
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reply from: 4given

Hoorah for the active , the tenderhearted and the brave! [L=http://www.parentprofiles.com]http://www.parentprofiles.com">">[L=http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Those links are difficult to manage sometimes........ especially when you copy another post.
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Yes, today we were reassured that we still occupy the number one position in the hearts of those headed into the abortion mill to murder their babies. What a relief!
It was a typical Saturday of baby killing in Knoxville today. All was peaceful on the picket line, no police harassment, no subponeas, no one physically attacking us or trying to break my camera. Inside the abortuary, however, there was no peace for the babies. They died without warning, and without compassion. They were dismembered, and disposed of like yesterday's trash. Just the way proaborts want them disposed of.
photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/22109baracksbabies.html

Life goes on, for some of us.....

reply from: Shenanigans

I didn't actually say Juno was a PL movie. All I said was it should be shown to murder minded mummies - so they can see that there are other options out there that don't involve having a child killed and their emotional and mental stability shattered. Juno does something selfless and caring, she not only thinks of herself, but of her child and those out there who desire one so badly. She doesn't just make a choice, she makes the right choice.
Juno shows that it can be done.
That's what I was getting at. I wasn't harping on about how Juno's some poster child for the PL movement.

reply from: 4given

They all looked so young to me.. Sad. I did have a girl I barely knew, nor remembered from school ask about how she could be "profiled" and adopt. Hopefully she and her spouse will be listed among other handouts. A great idea. I hope and pray other active pro-lifers catch on. Keep on. Thanks for the updates. Bless you!

reply from: yoda

Great, thanks!
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump for all the babies facing the abortionist's evil way of making a living.......
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: faithman

Bumpity bumpity bumpity......

reply from: yoda

Bump just because it's Tuesday.......
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump just because it's Wednesday.... and for the babies.
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

It's Thursday, and that's a good enough reason to ...... bump!
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: faithman

bump for pro-death scum baggs who just can't help but expose themselves for the monsters they are.

reply from: yoda

Bump for the pro death scaggy butt nuggets who help us to keep this thread bumped to the top.......
THANKS!!

reply from: yoda

Hey it's Friday.... what better reason to..... BUMP this thread!
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump, just to make weenie mad......
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump for all the women looking for decent parents willing to adopt.....
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: 4given

Amen! Bump for the unborn ant the active who devote their time and energy to saving them.. and a great idea for anyone that is involved in sidewalk counseling or otherwise.. keep a list of the screened and ready adoptive homes in your area. www.parentprofiles.com.

reply from: yoda

We were pleased to see one turnaround today, they left the mill and went across the street to the CPC. I hope they didn't come back.
One guy in a little car drove very close to me and another protester going east, then came back west in a few minutes and told us we were still number one. That really help us to feel better about ourselves.
We had a steady rain, but good attendance on the lines... there were about a dozen there between 8 and 9 AM.
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/22809morerainblood.html

We'll move the crosses for the unborn display tomorrow, when it isn't raining so hard.

reply from: yoda

Bump for all the babies, and all the women who could choose not to become baby killers by choosing adoption instead....
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: 4given

Hoorah! I will pray for them. Lord I ask that you would protect this baby. Guide its mother. Touch the heart of the father. Give them hope and clarity. Protect and bless this unborn life and those that created it. Use them Lord. In Your Name, Amen.

reply from: 4given

Bless them Lord! Abundantly!

reply from: yoda

Phil brought the sign and crosses down from Clinton to Knoxville this afternoon, and a whole gang of good folks put them up.
It was a dark, gloomy, blustery cold day, and just staying outside was difficult. Most of the setup went pretty well, except that one of the setup lines got tangled up and delayed progress for about 15 minutes.
Photo slide show: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/3109littlecrosses.html

reply from: 4given

How long do they stay after the set up? Are they kept until sundown? It's really something to see. 1 cross represents 30 babies, right?

reply from: yoda

They remain there about one month. Then we move them to another churchyard.
Yes, about 30 babies per cross per year in Knox County.

reply from: yoda

Bump, because it's Tuesday, and babies need adoption instead of abortion.
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump because it's Wednesday, which is senior citizen discount day at Kroger's.....
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump again, just because it's the right thing to do.
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bumping this for all the good little weenies out there.......
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump, for the 50 million babies that have been electively killed since Roe....
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

And bump for the protesters in Knoxville, TN, this morning...
Today was another "routine" killing day at the mill. (Not-so) Proud parents came to have their babies slaughtered, protesters came to beg them not to, and the babies didn't know about any of it. Theirs was the easy part, all they had to do was die.
No police harrassment, no subponeas, no attacks or camera snatchings, and only a quick glance from a few of the customers. We didn't even get a # 1 rating today, we must be slipping.
Once nice lady smiled and said "I'm just here for birth control", as she and her male companion strolled towards the door. Well, a lot of proabort do call abortion a "form of birth control", ya know?
photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/3809incoldblood.html

Peace..... for the babies.

reply from: Rosalie

I didn't actually say Juno was a PL movie. All I said was it should be shown to murder minded mummies - so they can see that there are other options out there that don't involve having a child killed and their emotional and mental stability shattered. Juno does something selfless and caring, she not only thinks of herself, but of her child and those out there who desire one so badly. She doesn't just make a choice, she makes the right choice.
Juno shows that it can be done.
That's what I was getting at. I wasn't harping on about how Juno's some poster child for the PL movement.
"Juno" shows Juno making a free choice while being supported by her parents all along and working it out. She made a choice that worked for her. It should be common sense that one choice will never work for everyone because everyone's situation is different.
No matter how just or right you think your cause is, your feelings do not override women's rights, feelings or wishes.
No self-respecting, intelligent woman who regards herself more highly than livestock and who doesn't let her uterus to dictate what will happen to her will ever allow ANYONE like you to interfere with our basic rights. And by that I mean our basic rights not to have our bodies used against our will. Which is what you support.

reply from: yoda

And bump for all the proabort haters, who usually get a pat on the back for their gutter-mouth posts......
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump for the next 50 million babies to be killed in this country.....
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump for the babies...... the 50 million already slaughtered, and the others facing slaughter.
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: micah

You consider women who use the pill to be "killing babies". Thus, isn't your figure of 50 million way too low?

reply from: yoda

Maybe so, but it's impossible for me to estimate the other number. Isn't 50 million enough for you, or does that number still leave you unsatisfied?
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump for all the babies who don't make it all the way to birth.......
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: micah

Maybe so, but it's impossible for me to estimate the other number. Isn't 50 million enough for you, or does that number still leave you unsatisfied?
I just want every fetus accounted for. Having died, I think the least you could do would be to include them in a statistic.

reply from: yoda

I would, if I had any accurate numbers. Do you? Where are they from?
Why do you find the slaughter of babies to be so funny?

reply from: nancyu

http://www.embryosalive.com/
http://www.stemcellresearchcures.com/EmbryoAdoption.html
Embryo Adoption
Many proponents of embryonic stem cell research claim that the human embryos they would like to destroy for research will be destroyed anyway. They reason that if the human embryos will die anyway, then why shouldn't they be used in experiments.
The problem with this argument is that it assumes that the human embryos have to be destroyed when there are other options for the frozen human embryos. Human embryos created by in-vitro fertilization don't need to be discarded or used for research. These tiny human beings can be adopted by couples hoping to have children. Embryo adoption occurs when couples who previously went through in-vitro fertilization no longer plan on initiating another pregnancy with their embryonic children and decide to release their embryonic children to another couple. These human embryos will then be implanted into the adoptive mother in the hopes of bringing one or more of the embryos to birth.
Back in 1997, an adoption agency called Nightlight Christian Adoptions started a program called the Snowflakes Frozen Embryo Adoption Program to help infertile couples adopt human embryos that had been frozen. Since then, numerous human embryos have been adopted and brought to birth. On May 24, 2005, President Bush appeared with 21 families who have adopted human embryos through the Snowflakes Frozen Embryo Adoption program of Nightlight Christian Adoptions.
Tom and Tina Harvey of Port Huron, Michigan adopted their son, Samuel, as a frozen embryo left over from other couples' attempts to conceive through in-vitro fertilization. David and Stacy Giesen of Marshall, Michigan adopted their son, Frank, as an embryo as well.
On March 21, 2006, the Harveys and the Giesens testified at a hearing on stem cell research before Michigan's House Health Policy Committee.
Excerpts from testimony by Tina & Tom Harvey who adopted Samuel as an embryo:
"Sometimes it is hard to believe that the embryo that was only 4 cells when shipped here, grew into a 9 pound, 13 oz. newborn! What a miracle! . . . This opportunity has enriched our lives so much . . . Are we so blinded by the 'promise' of 'perfecting' life that we are willing to cheapen it? That is what we do when we sacrifice or destroy one life for the 'greater good,' we cheapen life itself." (Full Testimony)
Excerpts from testimony by David & Stacy Giesen who adopted Frank an embryo:
"Words cannot express what God has done in our lives in the last 14 months. . . Frank is such a sweet, special soul -- sent not only to heal us but to touch his grandparents and aunts and uncles with his bright spirit. I think about if Frank had been given up to scientific research instead of adoption what the world would be missing out on."

reply from: yoda

Oh yes, and there are the various "Snowflake" baby organizations, too:
About Us
BACKGROUND ON NIGHTLIGHT CHRISTIAN ADOPTIONS
Nightlight Christian Adoptions is a non-profit, 501(c)(3) adoption agency licensed by the State of California to provide adoption services. We are licensed to perform homestudies for residents of Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside, San Bernardino, San Diego, and Ventura counties. Nightlight provides domestic, international, and embryo adoption services to families in all 50 states. In addition, we provide free counseling and support to women who are facing an unplanned pregnancy. Nightlight has been providing adoption and counseling services to the community since 1959. Since 1995, the agency has been under the direction of our current Executive Director, Ronald L. Stoddart. For more information on how to begin your own adoption journey, please send an email to info@nightlight.org or call us at (714) 278-1020.
MISSION STATEMENT Our mission is to share God's love by:
. Helping children, both domestic and international, to find loving families
. Assisting birthparents and genetic parents in making a wise and loving plan for their child's future
. Preparing families to be committed and effective parents to adoptive children
. Recognizing and advocating the personhood of pre-born children.
We are committed to carrying out our mission in a way that will bring glory and honor to our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
http://www.nightlight.org/snowflakeadoption.htm

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Snowflake Baby Snowflake Children
Snowflake baby is a term attributed to Nightlight Christian Adoptions, Embryo Adoption Awareness Campaign, and Embryos Alive Adoption Agency, to describe the potential child represented by a frozen embryo.
A child born from adopted embryos may also be called a snowflake baby. Snowflake babies offer hope to childless couples who want to experience the entire child experience from pregnancy to adulthood.
When a family has been successful in having a child through in vitro fertilization, remaining embryos are often cryo-preserved or "frozen". This results in the question of what to do with the remaining embryos. These frozen embryos can be the hope of a child for an infertile couple and may become "Snowflake Babies".
Nightlight Christian Adoptions frozen embryo adoption program has been named SnowflakesTM because embryos are unique, fragile and frozen, just like a snowflake. The program began in 1997 to allow embryos to achieve their ultimate purpose - life, and 134+ children have been born as a result.
There are over 400,000 frozen embryos in cryo-banks in the United States. These are pre-born children waiting for a chance at life.
Embryoadoption.com, a subsidiary of Nightlight Christian Adoptions, specializes in the adoption of embryos, allowing couples to experience the pregnancy and childbirth of their adopted child. snowflakes.org is an online resource provided by Nightlight Christian Adoptions and their Snowflakes Embryo Adoption Program.
To learn more about snowflake babies, check out the Embryo Donation and Adoption blog.
Check out our Embryo Adoption Videos to see information on Snowflake Babies.
http://www.embryoadoption.org/surrogacy_alternatives/snowflake_baby.cfm

reply from: yoda

Bump, because it's Wednesday, and there are unborn babies that need a home....
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump because it's Thursday, and I'm going to help set up a prolife display at the "Women Today Expo".......
http://www.parentprofile.com

reply from: yoda

Yesterday we put up the display for the Knox County Chapeter of TRTL at the Women Today Expo.
Two photos of the display: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/31209womensexpo.html

reply from: faithman

What a beautiful display!!!! Great job!!!

reply from: yoda

Thanks. Unfortunately, the booth next to it is the YWCA booth.... so I suggested a 10 foot high cinder block wall between them....

reply from: yoda

It was cold, dark, and rainy outside the mill, and dark and bloody inside.
But our spirits were buoyed by the signal that we were still #1 in the hearts of the baby killing customers!
The same female customer who gave us that reassurance also tried to get her very tall, black male companion to come over and assault us, but he ignored her orders, and leaned up against the building and smoked a cigarette.
Protester attendance was good this morning, we had most of our old gang, plus the "Fatima Chicks" came a little early today.
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/31509rainybloody.html

reply from: yoda

Bump, because this is more important that spinnweeine's nasty, mud slinging, slimy gossip.
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump just because......
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump, just to see if spinweenie will try to change the subject:
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

We can answer anyone who yell at us and say: "Well are YOU going to adopt this child if I don't abort?" Most of use are too old to be considered adoptive parents anyway, but we can put them in contact with people who are already pre-screened.

reply from: yoda

Friday was the first day of spring, but the campus abortion mill was closed for some reason, making today the offical first spring baby slaughter in Knoxville, at the Concord St. abortuary.
Business was about normal for a slaughter house Saturday. We had a good showing of protesters, almost a dozen were there at 8AM.
The weather is georgeous here, it was almost enough to take the stench away. And it was peaceful: no police harrassment, no attacks, and no summons. But we didn't get any reassurance that we're still # 1, sadly.
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/32109bloodyspring.html

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

I copied all the couples (three) listed for the state of Tennessee, and handed them out at the abortuary this morning. We rarely get a chance to talk to the "customers", but sometimes when we do it might be helpful to be able to show them the names and photos of couples and families wanting to adopt in this state.
And we can answer any of them who yell at us and say: "Well are YOU going to adopt this child if I don't abort?" Of course, when we respond "Yes", they frown at us and walk on into the abortuary anyway. Most of use are too old to be considered adoptive parents anyway, but we can put them in contact with people who are already pre-screened for adoption.

reply from: yoda

Bump, so weenie can call someone the "b" word today, if he feels like it.

reply from: yoda

Bump for the kids awaiting execution.
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump so we don't forget the kids needing adoption...... and because we don't believe that adoption is a "fate worse than death".

reply from: nancyu

http://www.davethomasfoundation.org/
I ate at Wendy's today and put my change in the plastic container on the counter. The cashier said, "thank you, that is very nice of you."
That is very nice of you Wendy's. Thank you.

reply from: yoda

Dave Thomas, the founder of Wendy's, was from Knoxville. He worked at a high quality local restaurant called "Regas" before he struck out on his own. He did a lot of good for a lot of people.

reply from: nancyu

Unlike you, Yoda, who (so I'm told) doesn't care a lick about children AFTER they are born. I wonder why you spend so much time trying to find loving homes for them.
I'd like to see bm and sw spend a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the time you do, trying to help children--before OR after they are born.

reply from: BossMomma

Unlike you, Yoda, who (so I'm told) doesn't care a lick about children AFTER they are born. I wonder why you spend so much time trying to find loving homes for them.
I'd like to see bm and sw spend a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the time you do, trying to help children--before OR after they are born.
I'd like to see you become financially stable and stop sponging off your kids. I'd also like to see you stop kissing yoda's ass and start showing your daughter more emotional support.

reply from: nancyu

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<~
Nurturing Nancy...
Originally posted by: nancyu
Kids need to be financially supported for 18 years maybe a little less. My daughter had her first job at age 15. My son had a good paying job at age 17. If I had 10 more kids, I'd have 10 more now, to help pay the bills and help around the house.
Post the link dimwit.

reply from: BossMomma

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<~
Nurturing Nancy...
Originally posted by: nancyu
Kids need to be financially supported for 18 years maybe a little less. My daughter had her first job at age 15. My son had a good paying job at age 17. If I had 10 more kids, I'd have 10 more now, to help pay the bills and help around the house.
Post the link dimwit.
I did, in another thread. But I'll fish it back out for your lying ass.

reply from: yoda

Thanks to everyone who bumped this thread, even if some of them only did it to spite someone else...... it all helps the kids in the end by bumping the thread.

reply from: yoda

Bump, so spinweenie can tell us about all the SUCCESSFUL TREATMENTS DERIVED FROM ESCR.....

reply from: yoda

Where are the spiteful bumpers when you need them?
To locate potential adoptive parents: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Today started out foggy, dark, and dreary....... which is pretty appropriate weather for killing babies, I guess.
We did not get any police harassment, subpoenas, attacks, or even a #1 sign... but we did get a "thumbs up" from a customer. Can't figure that one out.
BTW, it's official now, Kansas is the designated sewer for the whole nation. Killer "OJ" Tiller has walked again.
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/32809adarkday.html

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

I copied all the couples (three) listed for the state of Tennessee, and handed them out at the abortuary this morning. We rarely get a chance to talk to the "customers", but sometimes when we do it might be helpful to be able to show them the names and photos of couples and families wanting to adopt in this state.
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: Yuuki

Now that is a great idea!

reply from: yoda

And it's still a great idea today.......
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Spread this link around everywhere, someone might see it that needs to.
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Would you care for some tea and chocolates?

reply from: yoda

Where is weenie when we need him?
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: BossMomma

I actually tried to make a profile but apparently this adoption org. doesn't welcome singles.

reply from: yoda

Today dawned chilly, but warmed up really quickly. The mill parking lot started off almost empty, but filled up quickly. No wonder, one of the baby killing employees put on a show for the customers at 8AM (telling them at great length why they couldn't come in yet), and then another show for us at around 9AM, quoting scriptures for us and promising to pray for us.
Apparently he was having a nicotine fit around 9AM, so he came out to smoke and then decided to "educate us". First he said "You're not my enemy" (with which I agree, the babies are his "enemy", not us), Then he quoted such scriptures as "Ye who is without sin among you, cast the first stone". When we protested that we were not casting any stones (even metaphorical ones), but only asking his customers not to kill their babies, his reply was "There are no babies in there". At this I suggested he open a dictionary, but his reaction was stone cold silence. I must say, his facial expression was as cold and hard as any I've ever seen, but the fact that he came over to talk to us could be taken two different ways. One possibility is extreme arrogance, and the other is a little self-doubt. Or, maybe a combination of the two?
At any rate, there was a black lady who parked close to us, and when offered "information" said she didn't need any, and smiled. We don't know if she was a customer, staff, or a visiting professional of some sort, but whatever here role there she was so sure of it that she didn't want to know anything else.
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/4409warmbloody.html

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

reply from: yoda

We had a great turnout for the monthly cross and sign moving a little later on, today. The crosses and sign were already delivered to the church this morning, and we knew where the plastic sleeves (for the sign post) were in the ground, so it went pretty quickly. We had better than a dozen working, and me taking photos. Well, the kids actually did most of the work, as you will see in the photos. Great job, kids!
photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/4409littlecrosses.html

reply from: yoda

Oh, how love the smell of a bump in the morning!
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump, just to keep a light on in the window.....
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

A big ole Thursday morning bump.........
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump, because PBHO has killed the most productive medical research being done in this country, adult stem cell research.
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

On this, the day before Easter Sunday, business was down at the baby killing mill in Knoxville. Only 5 cars were in the parking lot when I left at 9AM.
Maybe some couples thought it would be hard to show up in church tomorrow with that on their conscience?
We had a good showing of protesters, however. There were more of us than there were customers for the slaughter house.
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/41109fewerkillings.html

reply from: yoda

Bump for all the unborn babies being ignored by the world, and being killed by their mothers.
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump, because it's Tuesday, and approximately four thousand babies will be killed today........
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Long day today, only time to bump this one thread........
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Thursday is bump day........
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

TGIF Bump!!
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

I copied all the couples (three) listed for the state of Tennessee, and handed them out at the abortuary this morning. We rarely get a chance to talk to the "customers", but sometimes when we do it might be helpful to be able to show them the names and photos of couples and families wanting to adopt in this state.

reply from: yoda

What started off as a fairly slow turned into a regular sized crowd at the baby killing mill. On the plus side, we were reassured that we still ranked # 1 with the customers.
Other than that, it was a fairly routine Saturday down where they kill babies.
photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/418moreobamababies.html

reply from: yoda

Bump, just because I want to bump this thread.
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump for the babies, because unlike spinny, they never slime anyone.
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump because this is important stuff......
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Wake up America, it's bump time!
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump for the "seccessionista" movement.......
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: scopia19822

"Wake up America, it's bump time!"
Its almost 11Pm I should be in bed by now.

reply from: yoda

Yeah how is everything over there on that Emerald Isle?

reply from: yoda

Bump for Barack, since he's so "active" in promoting adoption.......
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

It's Friday morning, and that's bump time...... for anyone seeking prospective adopting parents for their unborn.......
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: ProInformed

Yes, I did.
The baby was so clear. When my daughter-in-law had hers at 11 weeks it was hard to see the baby.
But, she's having another one next month and we should be able to see what I all ready know, the cutest baby to be born in '08!
I had a sonogram done at 11 weeks too for my oldest (living) daughter and lucky for me (AND HER) I could see her very clearly in the sonogram I had.
It was clear to see that she had arms and legs and was NOT just a 'blob of cells'!
She kept rolling up in a ball and then kicking out her legs and I told the sonogram technician I thought maybe she was doing that because she didn't like having the sonogram done.
Near the end of the pregnancy she kicked a hole in the amniotic sac, near the top so only a little amniotic fluid leaked;
and they said there was an excess of amniotic fluid anyway - which they said might have been because I'd had a previous abortion which CAN cause problems in future pregnancies! She grew up to be a gymnast, figure skater, Irish step dancer LOL - kicking is just part of her personality LOL
Oh and the reason I was getting a sonogram so early in the pregnancy was partly because there was a question about the due date; even though I kept track of my cycles since my cycles were irregular and the due date calculated by my charting was VERY different than the date calculated by that little wheel tool they usually use, they said an early sonogram could give a much more accurate due date because of the significant changes in fetal develoment per day in the first trimester. ALSO, I was having severe 'morning sickness' (um all day long). And since the pretenda-nurse (saleswoman) at the clinic my first baby was aborted at had said that THE reason I was so sick all day - not just in the morning - was because my having a negative blood Rh factor meant my baby was killing off all my red blood cells and my baby and I would both probably die if I didnt' abort, I was worried that same supposed fatal blood type incompatability was happening again... That is when I found out that the clinic had lied to me - when the nurse midwife explained how Rh factors really work. I suspect that she scheduled the sonogram partly to show me the truth about how big and developed my baby was too so I'd stick out the nausea another week or two so they could prescribe the anti-nausea medication for me.
That sonogram saved my baby's life because even though the pregnancy was planned and very wanted, I was starting to think I would 'have to' abort again for health reasons.
Thank God that nurse-midwife was not pro-abortion!
My beautiful, HIGHLY intelligent, precious, fascinatingly unique, exquisitely graceful daughter might not be alive if that nurse-midwife hadn't told and shown me the truth!

reply from: ProInformed

If the so-called 'pro-choice' clinics really were pro-choice THEY would be giving pregnant women this info inside the clinics instead of the mothers only getting the info from pro-lifers outside the clinics!

reply from: yoda

They're only "pro" for ONE choice.....

reply from: yoda

Summer has arrived in East Tennessee. We started off warm, and expect to be in the mid 80s later on.
Business was about routine for killing babies today. No flock of squad cars swooped down on us "terrorists", no lawyers served us any papers, no radical proaborts or "pretend prolifers (PP Lifers) threatened to do us harm bodily or to our equiptment. But none of the customers gave us our expected reassurance that we are still #1, so that leaves us to wonder and worry. Protester attendance was good, however.
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/42509thebloodyusual.html

reply from: ProInformed

In some of the towns I've lived you can send video news clips to the local tv news.
Maybe you could video some of the examples of the pro-aborts trying to censor the info that you are offering to the women, the hostile tactics the pro-aborts use?

reply from: yoda

I actually happen to be in one of the more conservative regions of the country, so I experience less open hostility than most prolifers do. We've only been harassed by proabort cops twice in the six years I've been there, we've never been sued (only threats to sue on this forum), and only a very occasional physical attack by a proabort customer. (and I was too busy defending myself to tape it.). I have been told that many years ago there were some proabort students from the local campus of UT who came over on Saturday morning to stand between the protesters and the abortuary and yell and scream at the protesters. Nothing like that happens nowadays, apparently because the abortuary owners have decided to keep a low profile, and they may even discourage such counter protests.
But I am ready to do some taping the next time any of that occurs. As to whether the local media outlets would use such a tape..... well, time will tell. I think the abortuary owners would probably try to discourage that.

reply from: yoda

Bump, because it's Sunday night, and there are unborn babies out there that need parents willing to adopt:
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: ProInformed

bumping for any pregnant females who come to this PRO-LIFE forum.

reply from: ProInformed

ATTENTION pregnant women:
It is very important that you realize that even though the clinics claim they are 'pro-choice' they really are only pro-abortion.
Do NOT trust that they will tell you the truth!
They will leave out info and will lie to you.
Afterwards when you learn the truth they will make fun of you for trusting them.
Do your own internet searches on fetal development, abortion methods, abortion complication, and adoption.
Once you step inside an abortion clinic they will assume you are there ONLY to have your baby killed, will lie to you in order to make that abortion sale, and will NOT help you with any alternatives other than abortion.

reply from: scopia19822

This is why waiting periods are a good idea, to give the woman time to decide what she really wants to do. Virginia has a 48 hour waiting period, I know choicers oppose this but if a woman is so determined to have it she isnt going to change her mind. Its better to let her think it over so that she does not do something that she will regret. My late uncle would not do an elective procedure on a person until they had a complete psyc evaluation. Its easier to get an abortion than a boob job.

reply from: ProInformed

Again, women be warned:
Even though they claim to be 'pro-choice' if you call a clinic to make an appointment (even if you are just making an appointment for a pregnancy test and/or to get info about fetal development, options, or assistance with other choices beside abortion) they will excuse LYING to you and using HARD-SELL tactics in order to try to convince you to abort by assuming you have already made up your mind to kill your baby!
Even though those clinics claim they offer other services besides abortion,
advertise and assure that they are NOT just abortion clinics, that they are supposedly 'pro-choice' and supposedly are the sort of place women can go to for pregnancy tests and other services and info, AND THEY WILL set up appointments for women who just want a pregnancy test - do NOT trust them!
Do NOT call any clinic that does abortions expecting to be told the truth!

reply from: ProInformed

Back to the topic of this thread:
The pro-abort argument that when women make an appointment at a so-called 'pro-choice' clinic to just get a pregnancy test, it's OK to LIE to them in order to get them to buy an abortion, because no matter what reason they had for making an appointment it will be falsely pretended that they made an appointemnt specifically to come in for an abortion, can be discussed in other threads:
http://www.prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=6436&enterthread=y
">http://www.prolifeamerica.com/...6&enterthread=y
http://www.prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=6422&enterthread=y

reply from: ProInformed

bump because this IS a PRO-LIFE FORUM!
(not spinfibby's and her toadies pro-abort forum)

reply from: yoda

Spinny is trying to become the all time champion of starting useless threads.......

reply from: yoda

Bump for today too..........

reply from: ProInformed

They're not at all useless according to spinfibby's agenda though.
This is supposed to be a pro-life forum where pro-aborts are tolerated only for some specific reasons that support the pro-life purpose of this site.
Spinfibby's continued presence here serves no such positive pro-life purpose.

reply from: ProInformed

Bumping for any women who thinks they might be pregnant.

reply from: yoda

I'll bump that bump, and raise you one........
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump, because it's Thursday and we're all still here.....
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: ProInformed

"There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number."
It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com
Bumping because this IS a pro-life site and pregnant women who visit here should find more pro-life help here than they do pro-abort lies.

reply from: ProInformed

bumping to protect the babies and give them a life with loving parents who want to adopt them

reply from: yoda

Bumping to give the babies a chance, where there was none.
htttp://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

On this dark, wet morning we stood vigil once more in front of the baby killing mill in Knoxville. Sadly, business was quite brisk. Only one or two customer had anything to say to us, and it was unintelligible, which is probably for the best. And apparently we've slipped to #2, no one gave us the #1 signal, or harassed us any other way.
Photos are at: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/5209rainybloody.html

Later this morning we moved the Crosses for the Unborn display to a church in north Knox County. I managed to include a few "artistic nature photos" in those.
Photos of that are at: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/5209littlecrosses.html

reply from: yoda

Put this thread back on page one, where it belongs.....
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump, for one of the few things appearing on this forum that can actually help to save a baby.....
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump, bump, bump that thread again.....
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump this thing one more time..........
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

This morning was just another typical day of baby killing at the mill here, about an average size mob of baby killing customers. Nothing special abouit any of them, as far as I could see. Some seemed ashamed, some indifferent, some defiant. But they all showed up, just the same.
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/5909morebabiesdie.html

But immediately afterwards, we had the second annual "Procession of Healing". For those of you who aren't familiar with this prolife action, a group from the Trinity Chapel Church in Knoxville came up with this idea last year to memoralize the unborn killed by abortion, and encourage people to turn away from abortion and "heal" themselves by conducting a mock funeral procession through downtown Knoxville. We were lead by several hearses, and everyone had a small black flag with a white cross on it to display on their care, just as if it was a regular funeral procession. Their concept was to do this as conservatively, and unoffensively as possible, and to that end they do not allow any signs, photos, or any other kind of displays on the cars/trucks in the procession. So, to those who witnessed the procession in person, it surely looked just like any other funeral procession except that there were several hundred cars in it, and the police blocked traffic for us.
The irony is that with all the precautions they took to keep this action vanilla and inoffensive, there was still some rather nasty criticism of it by some local columnists and public officials last year. Just goes to show, you might as well not worry about offending some people if you're going to try to speak out for the babies, because they're going to attack you anyway, IMO.
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/5909poh.html

Somehow, it just doesn't seem the same to say "Happy Mother's Day"...... as it used to.....

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

I copied all the couples (three) listed for the state of Tennessee, and handed them out at the abortuary this morning. We rarely get a chance to talk to the "customers", but sometimes when we do it might be helpful to be able to show them the names and photos of couples and families wanting to adopt in this state.
And we can answer any of them who yell at us and say: "Well are YOU going to adopt this child if I don't abort?" Of course, when we respond "Yes", they frown at us and walk on into the abortuary anyway. Most of use are too old to be considered adoptive parents anyway, but we can put them in contact with people who are already pre-screened for adoption.
Check out the website.....

reply from: yoda

Still waiting for Cecilia to say whether the elective killing of unborn babies is an act of "control".
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump.....because it's Wednesday, and there are babies that need parents.......
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

bump for Thursday morning, and for the babies.....
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: ProInformed

bumping this thread to the top of the forum, where it should remain permanently, because this is a pro-life site.

reply from: 4choice4all

Adding in that there are thousands of children waiting for families in the foster care system and in many cases it is free to adopt them...no need to wait! Call your local division of family services and request an application be sent to you so you can get registered for your local foster/adopt classes.

reply from: yoda

Yes, they all need adoption. Born, unborn, they are all children in need of parents. But I'm so glad that the born kids in need of adoption are not being legally slaughtered like the unborn ones are. But maybe that's the next thing on the Obamagenda?
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: 4choice4all

You can't adopt the unborn...so doesn't it make sense to focus on adopting the ones that actually are available and waiting?
Ah yes...you caught us....but shhhh....we are waiting for the second term before we start killing the orphans. rhetoric in place of honest discussion....that gets you...well, nowhere.

reply from: yoda

Actually you can make arrangements and agreements before the birth of a child, that's what the website is for.
Try looking at it, instead of spouting your baby killing rhetoric:
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: 4choice4all

But you can't ADOPT the unborn...you can make agreements(non legally binding) and arrangements(non legally binding) but while you are going through those hoops there are actual children in group home settings waiting for a parent.

reply from: ProInformed

Actually you can make arrangements and agreements before the birth of a child, that's what the website is for.
Try looking at it, instead of spouting your baby killing rhetoric:
http://www.parentprofiles.com
The baby killing bimbos don't care about the babies - born or unborn.
They sometimes pretend to care about children waiting to be adopted BECAUSE they can use those chidlren as a better-sounding excuse to kill unborn babies than their real reasons such as wanting to look attractive to the sort of male who would dump them if they didn't abort.
All the better-sounding excuses they mouth for defending abortion are problems they DEPEND on being there for them to continue to use as excuses. They have no genuine concern about the victims of poverty, child abuse, rape, homelessness, etc. That is WHY so-called 'pro-choice' groups and 'pro-choice' clinics do NOT do anything else besides promoting abortion as a solution to those problems.
MOST of the people I know who are involved in REALLY HELPING those victims are pro-life - they work to try to reduce such crimes as child abuse and rape INSTEAD OF helping rapists and child abusers cover up and CONTINUE their crimes with the help of abortion. And MOST of the people I know who have adopted children are pro-life.
Even if there were no children up for adoption (or trapped in the social sevices system that won't release them for adoption to already waiting adoptive parents), the pro-aborts would still keep right on killing thousands of innocent babies per day for bimbonic reasons like bikini season is coming up or worrying that the guy who's using them as a sex object might dump them for a different bimbo.
They're not really fooling anyone with their faked concern for children.

reply from: yoda

"Actual children"? What kind of children are the unborn? Are they "virtual children"? What kind of sick mind would try to deny common terminology to facilitate the slaughter of unborn babies?
MSN Encarta Dictionary: child [ (plural chil·dren) noun 5. unborn baby http://dictionary.msn.com/ [/a]
So why discourage either? Why try to rain on someone's dreams of adopting a child bound for abortion? Does it just make you angry that one of those babies about to be adopted might actually get a reprieve? Do you just hate to see one of them "get away"?
Truth be known, you really could care less about any kids getting adopted, right? You just want to spew negative comments on the effort to get abortion bound babies adopted, don't you?

reply from: yoda

A couple left a few minutes after entering the death chamber today, for reasons unknown. It made us feel better, though.
Otherwise, it was a fairly routine day of baby killing in Knoxville. One guy gave us a "thumbs up" as he escorted his wife into the front door.
And some old grey haired guy got in front of the camera, in the last frame. I just left his photo in there to discourage him from getting in the way.
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/51609babiesstilldie.html

reply from: Faramir

Those children waiting to be adopted will not be put to sleep if not adopted by a certain date.
It's not either/or as if striving to find parents for the unborn means that that's one less child that will be adopted, and even if that were the case, there is nothing wrong with putting the priority on saving a life vs finding a home for one whose life is not in danger.

reply from: yoda

Yeah, ordinary adoption agencies who handle born kids are kind of like "no-kill shelters" for pets. They don't kill them that stay there too long, whereas abortuaries are "kill shelters" who do kill all those not adopted by the time "Mom" gets there with the cash in hand.

reply from: ProInformed

Was that pro-abort one of the dirty old men who bring their underage victims to abortion clinics to cover up their dirty deeds so they won't get caught and can keep right on abusing their victims? I'd hold onto that photo - he may be on the news someday for being arrested for child sexual abuse... when some adult who is not employed in the abortion industry finds out what he's up to...

reply from: 4choice4all

A large part of the prolife movement screams adoption is an option....ignoring the fact that there are thousands of children that are not adopted. So no...it's not the solution. There's no shortage of children waiting to be adopted. I hear zero compassion for the children that are put to bed tonight by a stranger that is collecting a paycheck and not by a loving nurturing parent. You are encouraging potential adoptive parents to sit back and wait for some perfect child to appear instead of encouraging them to adopt a waiting child. Where's the concern for the life of those in foster care? Oh wait...that wouldn't promote your agenda. Where is the concern for QUALITY of life?

reply from: Yuuki

There will always be those thousands of kids in the system because there will always be horrible parents; should we promote the slaughter of millions more just because of them? No.

reply from: 4choice4all

And because there arent' adults willing to step up and adopt them. They are sitting on a waiting list.

reply from: galen

You would be surprised how hard it is for ANYONE to adopt ANYBODY in our current system... its not just a derth od adoptive parents, its also a system that wants most foster children reunited at all costs... even when its not best for the child.
GO read up a bit more on adoption and foster care in this country.

reply from: 4choice4all

I was a foster parent for years. You are perpetuating an urban legend that in reality was never witnessed by me.

reply from: galen

i ran a home for abused and unwed mothers untill recently...( i left because i had a brain tumour) this reality was witnessed by me in family court many many times....

reply from: yoda

Yeah, I keep a copy on my computer, as well as the one at the server. You're right you never know.

reply from: yoda

Sad, isn't it? The proabort's solution to any problem is to KILL.... they seem to think that every problem can be cured by killing someone.

reply from: yoda

Bumping, in hopes that Cecilia will eventually answer the question in my sig.
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com
">http://www.parentprofiles.com
Bump on wonderful Wednesday!

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

I copied all the couples (three) listed for the state of Tennessee, and handed them out at the abortuary this morning. We rarely get a chance to talk to the "customers", but sometimes when we do it might be helpful to be able to show them the names and photos of couples and families wanting to adopt in this state.

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

I copied all the couples (three) listed for the state of Tennessee, and handed them out at the abortuary this morning. We rarely get a chance to talk to the "customers", but sometimes when we do it might be helpful to be able to show them the names and photos of couples and families wanting to adopt in this state.

reply from: 4given

Right...! System overhaul.. Praying for an adoption movement.
Reunification is plan #1 despite whatever accomodations are available when bio isn't ideal. Sad.

reply from: 4given

For how many years?! Did you adopt any children from the "system"? Would you have? No it isn't an "urban legend". Sure there are children lingering in the "system" that have had their paternal rights relinquished- typically older or "special needs" children. Surely you are aware of the requirements to adopt or foster these children. What is your experience with adoption?

reply from: 4given

Wonderful indeed.. Blessings to you Yoda for your every effort. Praying for an adoption movement to sweep across this land!

reply from: yoda

Thanks, 4given. Here's today's report:
Today was fairly routine, as days go in front of the baby killing mill. The crowd was slightly smaller than usual, but that was of little comfort.
No incidents, threats, or controversies to report, but one gal did appear to be either holding her fingers in her ears, or holding earphones with both hands. Guess she didn't want to hear anything.
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/52309obamasdeadones.html

reply from: 4choice4all

4 years as a foster parent. We never adopted. We have 3 bio kids and our last has some special needs so we didn't renew our license. As my son gets older I've begun to feel that I am ready for more children but my husband isn't in agreement. It's very likely that my son will never live completely independently so there's hesitation to expand our family. I do have two friends that adopted through the foster care system...both were healthy infants that came to them from the hospital. (not the norm...but certainly not an exception). We've also been involved in the adoption process of our foster children. My first foster daughter's family stays in touch with us.

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

I copied all the couples (three) listed for the state of Tennessee, and handed them out at the abortuary this morning. We rarely get a chance to talk to the "customers", but sometimes when we do it might be helpful to be able to show them the names and photos of couples and families wanting to adopt in this state.

reply from: scopia19822

Right...! System overhaul.. Praying for an adoption movement.
Reunification is plan #1 despite whatever accomodations are available when bio isn't ideal. Sad.
I could have been put into foster care at birth due to my moms drug use, however I am so glad that my aunt stepped forward and decided to care for me even though 6 months before she lost a child to SID. I cannot imagine how hard that must have been for her. While there are good Foster parents out there, you have many who see these kids as a paycheck. Foster children are 3 times more likely to be abuseed or killed in the system than if they had not been removed. I beleive in the importance of blood ties. My mom wanted to put me in Foster care when I came to live with her as a teenager, but failed in her endevors thank God.

reply from: 4given

Right...! System overhaul.. Praying for an adoption movement.
Reunification is plan #1 despite whatever accomodations are available when bio isn't ideal. Sad.
While there are good Foster parents out there, you have many who see these kids as a paycheck. What?! How would you know that? Many? There are barely enough families/people willing to foster children as it is.. I can't speak for the regulations state-wise.. In my state finances are part of the process. There is also a limit on the children allowed into care. Part of the licensing process is a financial affidavit. (other things as well.. fire, health, criminal.. etc.) There is a long process and I have yet to meet any foster parent that does it for "a paycheck". Are you aware of the rate per day? Sure.. there is importance in"blood ties".. if there are willing family members. I had a negative impression of the foster care system actually. I read things every week that truly are troubling- either in regard to failed placement or abuse when within the "system". You do know that "in the system" doesn't always mean in a foster home, right?

reply from: 4choice4all

When we were foster parents it was about 8$ a day. We barely broke even....and certainly didn't make money off of foster care.

reply from: scopia19822

http://liftingtheveil.org/foster04.htm

http://liftingtheveil.org/foster07.htm

http://liftingtheveil.org/foster08.htm

http://liftingtheveil.org/foster09.htm

http://liftingtheveil.org/foster13.htm

The biggest problem is kids who age out of the system. They are more likely to end up in jail, homeless ort dead because there is not adequate resources to help them transistion. NYC would be IMHO the worst system, a big joke. I am posting links to various articles on problems in the system. The link below deals with kids aging out.
http://liftingtheveil.org/foster14.htm

reply from: 4choice4all

We heard stories from kids aging out of the system...it's heartbreaking. I think we have more responsibility to them sense we in effect "orphaned" them.

reply from: ProInformed

But obama claims it would be a 'burden' to the woman if babies who survive abortion aren't KILLED by fatal neglect or fatal violence after they are outside the woman's body... babies that loving parents would adopt being attended to by a doctor NOT intent on KILLING them is somehow wrong according to obama...
What Boston abortionist aborted a living and viable baby boy, deliberately smothered him, was convicted of manslaughter but released on a technicality,
and was later rewarded by being given the post of Chairman of the Board of Planned Parenthood Federation of America (PPFA)?

reply from: Yuuki

It would be a "burden" because it would force the woman to realise that what she just tried to kill was actually a living child.

reply from: yoda

And yet, Barry wants to keep that woman from knowing that..... not a very nice guy, is he?

reply from: Yuuki

And yet, Barry wants to keep that woman from knowing that..... not a very nice guy, is he?
His heart is in the right place; surely we don't want to burden people. But the problem is of course that what is burdensome about this situation is a stark truth. The reason pro-choicers often don't want women "burdened" with ultrasounds and the like is because they are worried that these women will become conflicted and make the "wrong" choice to save their child. It seems like the "wrong" choice when you take the baby out of the picture. The girl may fail out of college, or be forced to deal with the emotional trauma of raising her rapist's baby, or a whole host of other excuses. And if you don't consider the baby, then those other concerns become immediately much larger and much more bothersome than the "undeveloped fetus" inside the woman's body that she has a "right to control".
So again, as far as the woman goes, their hearts are in the right place: they're trying to help her make the decision they feel is ethically right and will benefit the woman.
That's why it's so hard to convince them otherwise; that's why it's so hard to make them believe it's a baby. Because if you do, then they suddenly have to come to terms with the fact that their reasoning up to this point has been misplaced, well-intended nonsense, and that's a hard pill to swallow. They also have to face the fact that they've been encouraging women to kill babies. I've done it; I fully admit I've counseled women over the net to abort their child "for their own sake". When you don't believe it's a baby, it becomes all about the woman. There may be at least one dead baby because of my prior advice. Well intended, totally caring, but completely in denial of the baby's rights.

reply from: yoda

His heart is in the right place; surely we don't want to burden people. But the problem is of course that what is burdensome about this situation is a stark truth.
Then it isn't a "burden", it's a favor, and Barry's heart shows no signs of being "in the right place". In fact, his history shows the exact opposite. He has led the charge in places like Illinois to prevent the rescue of "accidental babies", being the ONLY state senator to speak against BAIPA.
That's a heavy load to carry, isn't it? And how do you convince yourself that you didn't intentionally avoid facing the truth?

reply from: ProInformed

That's a heavy load to carry, isn't it? And how do you convince yourself that you didn't intentionally avoid facing the truth?
Hmmm.. when a woman trusts and believes what 'pro-choicers' tell her,
but then finds out the truth and tries to warn other women to not believe the pro-abort lies,
choicists like spinfibby attack THOSE women and make fun of them for trusting the 'pro-choice' liars
and blames them alone for not suspecting they were being lied to
and therefore launching an investigative search for the facts
(when they have no reason to suspect they aren't already being told the facts)...
But when a fellow choicer admits she encouraged women to abort without learning the truth first, because she also trusted the pro-abort lies, she is not attacked and made fun of by the spinfibbies for not suspecting she was being lied to AND lying to others in turn?

reply from: yoda

Mind blowing, isn't it?
I've caught myself avoiding the truth a few times, so I know it's a part of the human psyche to do that. It's like you're in a beautiful field full of flowers, but you know there's a yellow jacket nest in one corner of it, so you just avoid that corner. After all, who wants to get stung?

reply from: Yuuki

His heart is in the right place; surely we don't want to burden people. But the problem is of course that what is burdensome about this situation is a stark truth.
Then it isn't a "burden", it's a favor, and Barry's heart shows no signs of being "in the right place". In fact, his history shows the exact opposite. He has led the charge in places like Illinois to prevent the rescue of "accidental babies", being the ONLY state senator to speak against BAIPA.
That's a heavy load to carry, isn't it? And how do you convince yourself that you didn't intentionally avoid facing the truth?
I did and I didn't. At first, I didn't know the pro-life side, so I couldn't "avoid" what I had no knowledge about. I had previous knowledge of fetal development, but the first thing pro-choice teaches is that this very development means it's not really a person. So I went "Oh, alright, that's why abortion is okay". You have to be convinced otherwise to truly feel abortion is wrong.

reply from: yoda

There is certain knowledge, and then there is suspicion. You'd have to convince yourself that you did not even have any suspicions that hearing only one side of an issue such as abortion did not give you an incomplete look at the "big picture". Can you convince yourself of that?
Without researching what the word "person" actually means, and what the impact of being called a "person" was? You took their lies as truth, without cross checking anything they told you? That's not only blind faith, that's willingly blind faith. That's agreement by inaction, IMO.

reply from: ProInformed

When I had my abortion I had no previous knowledge of fetal development or abortion methods, had never met any pro-life advocates, and had no reason to suspect the governement and medical community would legalize and commit such an atrocity, or that the media would help cover it up.
By contrast most choicists today have heard or seen at least some of the truth but choose to deny or disregard it.
Today we have sonogram evidence, the internet to research the truth, photos of aborted babies, and former aborton industry employee testimonies.

reply from: Yuuki

Like I said, I had extensive knowledge of fetal development, and was indeed "taught": when I voiced my opinion on abortion, I was given all kinds of reasons why abortion was indeed "ok". I initially chose pro-choice because it's honestly portrayed in a much better light. Who on earth would want to assosciate themselves with religious wackos who want to tie women up in basements and shoot doctors? Also, I had seen the messages about "women's rights" linked with the pro-choice side. Thirdly, I'm a liberal, and many liberals are pro-choice, so of course that's the side I knew more about.

reply from: yoda

Actually, I agree with you on both points. The question of the morality of elective abortion has nothing to do with fetal development or personhood, it is only a question of the morality of the elective killing of innocent human beings.

reply from: yoda

That's the "herd mentality" that a lot of people on both sides use to determine their positions on moral issues, and it's a horrible way to make such decisions.

reply from: carolemarie

Actually, it depends on how long ago your abortion was. Back in the early 1970's women were told it "was a blob of tissue" that abortion was just removing a clump of cells. No ultrasound, no prolife movement, no help centers. Celebrities volunteered at clinics and helped counsel women, and they knew nothing either
So people believe what they were told. They didn't even have computers or the internet to do research.
So a better question is to ask the person what year they had the abortion in.
That gives you a better idea of what they actually knew....

reply from: 4given

Wonderful! Profiles.. There may be more than 3 at this time. Bless you and your every effort- Praying that through it all one will choose life and another be blessed with the child they so desperately hope for. Bless your efforts abundantly! Update often (profiles etc) .. waiting on that praise report. I heard of one from Florida.. parentprofiles.com.. a young mother had a scheduled appt. for her abortion.. until matched with a couple from South Carolina. I suppose one never may know how or when they impact another being- with the facts or hope or help and understanding. How often LIFE is taken for granted..Waiting on an update. Blessings!

reply from: yoda

Yes, currently there are four listed for my state. I can't think of a better way for prospective parents to rescue a "doomed" child.

reply from: Yuuki

That's the "herd mentality" that a lot of people on both sides use to determine their positions on moral issues, and it's a horrible way to make such decisions.
I knew more about it, and it was all about "women's rights". That mean the other side was against women's rights. Why on earth would anyone choose to be against women's rights!?

reply from: yoda

That's a good reason to doubt what you've been told, isn't it?

reply from: Yuuki

That's a good reason to doubt what you've been told, isn't it?
I don't quite understand your statement, sorry. All I knew was that I was not Christian at the time, and believed (still do) in bodily autonomy and a woman's right to control her body. The only difference is that I FIRST discovered the argument saying that the unborn aren't people, and as it was presented as logic, science, and against overly controlling emotional, religious, right-wing extremists, I decided it was correct.

reply from: yoda

Were you not the least bit curious as to why any group would be against women's rights? Did that not seem unlikely to you? And did that lack of "being likely" not cause you to wonder about the people who made that claim? Did you really not see any red flags at all in the propaganda you were eagerly eating up? Or were you voluntarily color blind?
And how did you accept that the meaning of the word "person" was subject to scientific inquiry (other than by the use of a dictionary)? How were you convinced that "science" sets word meanings?

reply from: Yuuki

They were against women's TRUE rights because they were backwards, religiously conservative republicans who wanted women barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen of course. I still disagree with a majority of their stances.

reply from: 4given

I know quite a few "religiously conservative republicans".. How many do you actually know or have you engaged ? Barefoot? I believe that your stereotypes are proof of how ignorant you truly are. Is it willful? Troubling nonetheless ..

reply from: yoda

That's called "stereotyping", and it's considered bad manners. Also, it's often inaccurate and ignorant. And, it sounds like a cop-out way to avoid facing real facts. Any of that ring a bell?

reply from: Yuuki

I know quite a few "religiously conservative republicans".. How many do you actually know or have you engaged ? Barefoot? I believe that your stereotypes are proof of how ignorant you truly are. Is it willful? Troubling nonetheless ..
If you were paying attention to the conversation, you would realise that the above is the stereotypical view of republicans, not the reality.

reply from: Yuuki

That's called "stereotyping", and it's considered bad manners. Also, it's often inaccurate and ignorant. And, it sounds like a cop-out way to avoid facing real facts. Any of that ring a bell?
Of course it's stereotyping, that's the point. You constantly stereotype pro-choicers; I assumed that you'd be totally okay with me doing the same about republicans.

reply from: yoda

Now you're using ME as your standard? Suppose I'm the worst stereotyper in the world, does that make it okay for you to do it? I'm that important in your world? Well, they do say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, so if you thought you were copying me, I guess it's okay.....??
(And you know, your criticism of me would me more effective if you'd attach it to one of my posts, rather than make a general, unsupported attack.)
Or, hey, you could at least drop in a qualifier like "most", or "some" once in a while.... use your imagination.......

reply from: yoda

The crowd was about normal sized for a Saturday morning in May. (Not that I ever want to think of the activity at this abortuary as "normal".)
Only one customer shouted at a protester, and it was something fairly mild like "Why don't you shut the f**k up?"
We had a good showing of protesters today, around 10 or 12.
photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/53009morebhoblood.html [/a]
Afterward, some of us went to set up the Crosses for the Unborn display. We had a great crowd of volunteers of all ages, genders, and sizes. Even though we had a minor setback in trying to locate the sleeves, the size and energy of the group was enough to get the job done fairly quickly. The slide show is entertaining.
photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/53009crosses.html

reply from: ProInformed

Bumping this thread because the truth is abortion is the non-violent option.

reply from: yoda

No, it gets bumped, often by me, because it contains the information about http://www.parentprofiles.com [/a]
What other reason does anyone need to bump it?

reply from: galen

good enough for me today...
bump!

reply from: Yuuki

Spinny's post was very polite, if not even a compliment as far as I can tell. She basically said this topic wasn't boring at all especially compared to a lot of the constantly dredged up threads, and was about you being an actual activist. She's saying this thread has a point to being bumped.

reply from: galen

no spinny wants people to ignore this thread, or use it to bash Yoda...

reply from: Yuuki

Did you actually read her post?
That's very complimentary.

reply from: galen

do you realise who it was who said them... only one of the most yoda hating people on this forum...
Ask spinny if it was a compliment...

reply from: Yuuki

It doesn't matter. What she said was a compliment, there was no hidden malice or sarcasm in the post. It was a genuine compliment.

reply from: yoda

I took it as a simple observation about the traffic on this thread, and one which I thought was incorrect, and needlessly derogatory of other prolifer's posting efforts here.

reply from: yoda

You really know how to hurt a guy, don't you?
Whew! Thanks for the "appalling", anyway!
I really do need input from you and your allies to guide me... in reverse.

reply from: scopia19822

"Whew! Thanks for the "appalling", anyway!
I really do need input from you and your allies to guide me... in reverse."
I do not agree with it either. , but other than that you do what I do and provide alternatives. I went to the PP yesterday and 3 women came too me and ask for information and 2 of them changed their minds and decided to carry the babies to term. Not a bad day I guess.

reply from: yoda

How could a day be any better?
Isn't that the most beautiful thing a person can do with their life? Isn't that the reward that makes a life worth living?

reply from: scopia19822

How could a day be any better?
Isn't that the most beautiful thing a person can do with their life? Isn't that the reward that makes a life worth living?
Yes it is! What I am encounterting is people who have lost their jobs and feel that they cant afford another child.

reply from: yoda

That's a legitimate concern, and I sympathize with them and their families.
On the other hand, women who are pregnant already have a child. As someone over on TeamSarah said, "Abortion does not make you no longer a parent, it makes you the parent of a dead child".

reply from: ProInformed

How could a day be any better?
Isn't that the most beautiful thing a person can do with their life? Isn't that the reward that makes a life worth living?
Yes it is! What I am encounterting is people who have lost their jobs and feel that they cant afford another child.
If the abortion industry, the abortion industry lobby groups, and the choicers who defend abortion really were 'pro-choice' then wouldn't THEY be donating money and time to help such families so they would NOT have to kill their own babies when they don't really want to?

reply from: Yuuki

Not a child for whom it will cost money they don't have to clothe, feed and care for while they work. Face it, a born child is a financial liability and a fetus isn't.
So what? It's just money. Should I be able to kill poor people because they are financial liabilities?

reply from: yoda

Not a child for whom it will cost money they don't have to clothe, feed and care for while they work. Face it, a born child is a financial liability and a fetus isn't.
First, that isn't true at all. Beside prenatal care and new clothes (for her), there's time off from, and possibly the loss of a job. Do you really think that gestation is such a cake walk?
Second, why would you want to try to disqualify a gestating human being from being called a "child" because of how much expense they cause?
How do a mother's expenses affect the identity of her unborn offspring?

reply from: yoda

I disagree with your assessment of the burdens of human gestation (as previously stated), but to me there's a much more important issue: Why are you arguing that the cost of gestation has any effect on whether a woman already has a child when she is pregnant?
What on earth are you thinking?

reply from: yoda

Would you PLEASE respond to my question THIS TIME?????
What does "expense" have to do with whether or not a pregnant woman already has a child?

reply from: yoda

Typical proabort non-response. You say "the semantics don't matter to me", and yet semantics is your entire argument.
And you still will not admit that unborn people are "children", will you?
Merriam-Webster Dictionary: Main Entry: child 1 : an unborn or recently born person http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/child

MSN Encarta Dictionary: child [ (plural chil·dren) noun 5. unborn baby
http://dictionary.msn.com/

reply from: nancyu

good enough for me today...
bump!
I edited PI's quote for accuracy. I hope that she meant ADOPTION is the non-violent option!

reply from: yoda

I'm sure that's the case. We all know abortion is the VIOLENT option.

reply from: sander

Yoda, I see Lowly and her stupid friends never did place that phone call to report you to the authorities.
Of if they did it didn't get you arrested....but, it was fun watching them makes fools of themselves.

reply from: faithman

Let us rejoice for those who were saved!!!! as we morn for those who were lost. Good work kiddo!!! thanks for being there for mother and child.

reply from: yoda

Say, where are those idiots now? We have all kinds of nice policemen around here that would just love to get a call from such charming people.....

reply from: yoda

Let us rejoice for those who were saved!!!! as we morn for those who were lost. Good work kiddo!!! thanks for being there for mother and child.
Exactly! This is what matters most to a dedicated prolifer, saving babies!
All the rest is just static.

reply from: faithman

Let us rejoice for those who were saved!!!! as we morn for those who were lost. Good work kiddo!!! thanks for being there for mother and child.
Exactly! This is what matters most to a dedicated prolifer, saving babies!
All the rest is just static.
that is the missing ingrediant from the faux-lifer. They make it about everything else except the womb child. Do you think the womb child would be all bent that their deadly enemy no longer is able to suck brains from baby skulls if they were able to speak for themselves? Let me presume to speak for them.....THANK YOU SCOTT!!!!!!!

reply from: yoda

I did read that the Tiller family says it has "no plans to reopen" the death mill. Carhart the very, very old late term abortionist held a press conference and said that he'd like to "carry on" Tiller's "work", but that he didn't have a clinic to do it in. I guess he's hinting that he wants to be hired to run Tiller's practice.

reply from: faithman

Yepper, and the ole boy was reported lamenting that there were no young ones comming up to take his place, and one of the major reasons is they were affraid of being shot. But the phony lifers would tell you that is a bad thing.

reply from: yoda

That's not what I read...... but you never know who gets these things straight... they could've said ten different things for all I know.
Time will tell, won't it?

reply from: yoda

Bump it for the babies........
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump this thing right back to page one........
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: faithman

Put this thred on ice, and it would be full of chill BUMPs

reply from: yoda

Yep....... and it deserves every one of them.......
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: faithman

BBBBBUUURRRRR....BUMP.....BBBBBUUUURRRRRRR shiver shiver......

reply from: yoda

Bump, bump, bump that thread again.....
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

A slightly smaller crowd of baby killing adults showed up yesterday at the mill. Protesters showed up in good numbers, and the usual drive by patrol of the local police made an appearance. No customers seemed interested in lecturing us, or even telling us we were still number one. Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/6609stillkillingem.html

After the protest, I attended a training session for the volunteers for the prolife booth at local summer fairs and expositions. This is the first year for this type of training here, and it was well attended (about thirty something). One interesting point was made by an OB-GYN physician in attendance, who emphasized that he did not shy away from using words like "abortion kills a baby/child". I had not realized that it might be a problem for some prolifers to say those words, because to me they are just the plain, simple truth that we need to be keeping in front of the public. Another person commented that it was good for him to say that because he had a position of authority for making such a statement. I expressed the thought that those words are not medical or biological terms, but rather terms of the vernacular and did not require any authority from the speaker. One need only be familiar with the dictionary definitions of those words to feel confident in using them, IMHO. It was a good way to get direction from our local RTL staff on what they expected from us while we are meeting the public as representatives of their organization, and to hear ideas from others who participate in the prolife booth effort, and I think we all benefitted from it.

reply from: yoda

Bump.......
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com
">http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: ProInformed

Bumping because the truth is no babies 'need' to be killed because there are loving parents waiting to adopt them.
(And because this is one of the threads the delusional self-appointed Roe-bot forum moderator wants to censor - claiming "nobody cares about" this thread topic and the so-called "legitimate posters" are annoyed by this topic being brought up - anti-choice/pro-abort Roe-bot censors can't stop us from posting what WE think is important.)

reply from: yoda

Bump, just because spitwaddy doesn't like for me to bump this thread........... s*r**w you, spitwaddy!
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: sander

Too bad this just can't be a sticky....oh well, there's enough of us here who love the babies and love life that we can just "bump".

reply from: yoda

Absolutely right, sista ace! And just knowing that it irritates spitwaddy makes it all the more enjoyable!!

reply from: sander

My, my....never knew of that excellent side benefit!
Learn something fun everday!

reply from: CDC700

My, my....never knew of that excellent side benefit!
Learn something fun everday!

reply from: yoda

It's time for me to reap some of the "side benefits" again......
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump this one more time for spitwaddy..... with feeling!
There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com
">http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: faithman

The kind people who have given us this free forum, have poured their very lives, and treasure into a powerful documentary called MAAFA 21. I believe the cost is going to be $20. Please seriously consider buying a copy, as well as sending what you can for copies to others. Life talk had several clips from it, and from just what I saw, It will be one of the most powerful projects in pro-life history. Do what you can. We owe MC3 so much, and could never hope to repay his kindness and suport for IAAP. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE consider this request, and do what you can for this project.

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

This one's for you, spitwaddy:
There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Just got through watching Maafa 21. It is an impressive documentary. The trail of deceit and extreme racial prejudice by federal and state governments that is documented in is just sickening.
The only bright spot is the anger, energy and drive of black ministers like Johnny Hunter. If there are enough like him, the Black community will wake up from it's fatal slumber before it's too late.
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: sander

Thanks for the review, plus it's a good way to "bump".

reply from: yoda

They're all good, when the thread deserves it.........
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: faithman

http://www.lifedynamics.com/Abortion_Information/Pro-life_Product/maafa.cfm

reply from: yoda

Time for a good ole bump.....
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump, just to irritate spitwaddy......... who hates adoption, kids, life, and the universe in general.
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: Rosalie

Oh yes, because you are an authority on what everyone else thinks, feels and is. Hardly.

reply from: yoda

I see that "Rosie the Death Angel" has polluted this thread......
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump to get under spitwaddy's skin.......
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

After a week off the job, I was back at my usual place today. And although it's way too soon to call it a trend, there were a lot fewer customers coming to have their babies killed today. In fact, there were more staff going in the front door than customers, and we counted six staff people.
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/62009fewerkilled.html

Yesterday, I helped out for a couple hours at a prolife booth/exhibit at a community fair in Oak Ridge, TN, called the "Secret City Festival". As usual, our "opposition" was there, so this year I included a photo of their booth, and display it along side one of ours at: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/61909oakridgefestival.html

Keep on keeping on.
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump, just to irritate spitwaddy........
There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: faithman

BUMP, just because I can!!

reply from: yoda

Bump, just so spitwaddy can complain some more.......
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump, to raise spitwaddy's ice water pressure........
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump, just to raise spitwaddy's water pressure......
There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: sander

Bump.
Anything to please spitwad.

reply from: yoda

Exactly!! Spitwaddy is our heroine!! (NOT!)
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Don't know the reason, but the killing has slowed down the last two weeks in Knoxville's busiest baby killing mill. There were only about a half dozen couples that showed up by 9AM Saturday, and one of them appeared to have changed their minds and left. They waved as they drove by our pickets down front. We only had "feedback" from one "gentleman" who shouted unintelligibly at us as he entered the front door. It sounded a little like "Yada yada yada yad........". I guess he was bored by any mention of human life, and stuff like that. Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/62709slowerkilling.html

We had a good turnout of protesters, and no incidents of any kind.
http:www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump, because I have my priorities.....
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: siri

Jeffers--who's really unimpressive, and needs to go ***** himself? Note how everyone's ignoring you? I'm prochoice.

reply from: sk1bianca

pro-choice...
because it's so much better to have our kids dismembered and thrown in the trash than give them to a loving family...

reply from: yoda

Exactly. So much "neater" to just toss their parts into a garbage disposal unit in the sink, or into an incinerator.
Proaborts are all about neatness.

reply from: yoda

Bump, because this thread is actually useful:
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: sander

And it bothers spitwad.

reply from: yoda

Yep....... spitwaddy won't admit it, but it drives her right up the bloody wall.
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: TriBee

Hey all- check out the NEW YOUTUBE Maafa21 Trailer just published July 1st :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLnNi_qb7nY

reply from: Teresa18

I bet the abortionist doesn't like that at all. Less blood means less green for him.

reply from: yoda

You're right...... they hate that.
They are killers for hire, and they hate being underemployed.

reply from: ProInformed

Parents who regret allowing abortionist Tiller kill their baby girl:
http://www.blackgenocide.org/Tiller/tiller.htm

If they didn't want to parent the baby because of her health problems they could have allowed the baby girl to be adopted by loving non-violent parents instead.

reply from: yoda

"Adoption.... the perfect option"
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

"Adoption.... the perfect option"
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Bump, because spitwaddy is frustrated that she can't get a tumble from Augustine....
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

A BEAUTIFUL SIGHT: An abortion mill CLOSED for the holiday!!

http://www.abortionknoxville.com/7409beautiful.html

http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Sure he does..... he just doesn't believe you're one.....

reply from: sander

You got under spitwads creepy skin. Double kudos....a bump from her and a smack down.

reply from: yoda

So that was a "Twofer"???

reply from: yoda

This: "You got under spitwads creepy skin. Double kudos....a bump from her and a smack down."
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

But we're still number ONE! :-D
Traffic was pretty slow at the baby grinder's mill today. There were only about 3 or 4 couples there tops. A couple of "gentlemen" objected to Jim's pleas to let their babies live, and one of them even showed us his IQ manually.
It was good to see the numbers down, but after the big ZERO we saw last Saturday, it was still a big letdown.
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/71109fewerbabiesdie.html

http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: sander

For the babies. They deserve someone experiencing grief over their gruesome deaths.

reply from: yoda

Yeah, and sadly that's about all we can do for them right now. It's like we are a swat team trying to rescue hostages, but we know we can't rescue them without killing them. It's the most helpless feeling in the world.

reply from: Yuuki

Who?
If you really know, a twofor is shorthand for "two for one"... but I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not, sorry.

reply from: yoda

Nope, not sarcasm........ and yep, that's what it means.

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: sander

Seems this sort of blows someone's, "couldn't find any couples to take my babies" out of the water.
Too bad someone didn't do more research BEFORE the babies were killed and found this website.
It truly is too bad.

reply from: yoda

Yeah, that's like saying "If there is no one to adopt my born kids, I guess that makes it okay to kill them".
It's a stupid, cold, unfeeling motive for killing your baby.

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

I don't know what they can or can't find out, spinny..... all I know is that they are performing a service by trying to match up prospective parents to babies that might otherwise be aborted.
Would you rather just let them be aborted?

reply from: Yuuki

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Uh, no-
That's why I was looking for better info.
Jesus Christ! Are you and your clique on a JIHAD to drive away moderate pro-lifers and concerned pro-choicers?
In this political climate, you guys can't afford to lose any friends.
It seems they feel they don't need us at all; that we in fact harm them. Speaking of, Judaism is really interesting...

reply from: yoda

Into which of those categories do you place yourself? Certainly not the first, and I don't believe the second one exists........ so........
What will it take for you proaborts to wise up? We DON'T WANT ANY "FRIENDS". We, for the most part, don't care if everyone in the whole world hates our guts.... and long as they start loving the unborn and want to be the FRIENDS of the unborn. Can't you get that through your thick skull?
So, do you really think that being aborted is better than being adopted by "unfit" parents?

reply from: yoda

You don't "harm" me in the least. Do you "harm" the prolife cause? I doubt it, I think the movement is too broad and deep to be harmed by "prolife moderates". I consider them nothing more than a distraction, people who come to this debate purely for entertainment and/or curiosity, not out of any concern for the four thousand babies that are slaughtered every day.

reply from: Yuuki

You don't "harm" me in the least. Do you "harm" the prolife cause? I doubt it, I think the movement is too broad and deep to be harmed by "prolife moderates". I consider them nothing more than a distraction, people who come to this debate purely for entertainment and/or curiosity, not out of any concern for the four thousand babies that are slaughtered every day.
Yes, I meant harm the cause. And I have been told by some people on here that "faux-lifers" weaken the movement of those pro-lifers who "actually care".

reply from: yoda

Well I'll say one thing..... you're probably helping the cause of adoption, and therefore abortion reduction by bumping this thread.

reply from: Yuuki

I love helping to reduce abortions. You know that is my goal.

reply from: yoda

Big doings at the Anderson County (TN) Fair this week:
http://www.abortionknoxville.com/71609acfair.html

reply from: yoda

The Anderson County Fair is this week, and the Knox County chapter of Tennessee Right to Life has a booth there, as usual, and it seems to be going well. I was there on Thursday and we were actually quite busy for a weekday. And Thursday is "Senior Citizens Day" there. Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/71609acfair.html

Things didn't go quite so well at the mill today. Business was back to about normal, with about a dozen or so couples coming in to get "Junior" killed. And some parents even brought their very young children there, perhaps to "witness" what could have happened to them? One child looked to be around 10-14, and another was maybe one or two, still small enough to be carried. It's profoundly sad to see them there, but then everything about that place is sad.
No incidents of interest today, but we had a good showing of protesters at 8AM, about a dozen in all. A couple years ago I was worried that the 8AM shift would slowly dwindle to nothing, but it's actually as well supported by volunteers as it ever has been since I've been there.
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/71809killingasusual.html

reply from: sander

Thanks for the report, Yoda.
I mourn the loss of these precious lives.
And thank you for all you do on their behalf.

reply from: yoda

Glad to see you posting regularly, sander. I post as often as my stomach allows, and sometimes that more often than others. It's pretty hard to stomach the words of people who approve of sucking a baby's brains out while 90% of it's body is already "born". I don't think any Hollywood writer could've come up with anything more horrific than that....... and that's not even fiction.
http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: sander

I know exactly what you mean by a turned stomach.
The vile creatures that post here can really make one sick.
I'll never understand those who have tossed aside the humanity of the babies still resididng in their mother's wombs.
And I never want to.
These creatures have tossed aside their own humanity and refuse to look close enough to see what has happened to their hearts and minds.

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

The baby slaughterhouse was running at about the normal pace today, sadly. One guy even gave us the "You're # 1" signal with his INDEX (not the middle) finger, and gave us a big smile as he went in the front door. Guess he was showing us how much fun it is to kill your kid?
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/72509normalkilling.html

After that sickening sight, it was good to get out to the community fair at Karns. Attendance was good, and the booth was busier than in years past. We had a good location, although a little cramped. All our visitors seemed to have positive attitudes, so all in all it was a good day at the fair.
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/72509karnsfair.html

http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

The intrepid cross moving team had another brilliantly successful move on Friday, July 31st, moving the Crosses for the Unborn display to a Baptist Church in Knoxville. And it wasn't an easy move, as the nearby tree's roots forced the digging of five holes before we got two of them deep enough. Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/73109crosses.html

The story at the mill was "mixed", the number of parents coming to slaughter their children was down slightly, and we were reassured once again of our status as "number one" by one of the customers at the mill (see photos 5 and 6). The latest buzz is about the plans of Planned Barrenhood to build a new baby killing center on Bearden Hill. A protest march is planned soon. Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/8109slowerkilling.html

check out http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

The baby body count was down today in Knoxville. The few customers that did show up didn't care to communicate with us, so we're not sure if we're still number one or not. And no swat teams either, just us "terrorists".
And we seem to have dodged a bullet, at least temporarily. Planned Barrenhood announced that they were no longer proceeding with the lease of a facility in the heart of west Knoxville where they would have had room to do surgical abortions. Until now, they have satisfied themselves with handing out RU486 and other human pesticides. But if anyone out there believes that they have given up their expansion plans in Knoxville, I have some oceanfront property in Arizona I'd like to discuss with them.
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/8809fewerkilledtoday.html

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Sad to report, business was up a tick today at the baby killing clinic. It was back to about "normal" for a baby killing Saturday in Knoxville.
Not a very eventful day, actually, and we're not sure about our # 1 status. One customer, however, did a "Michael Jackson" as he walked in the door (right behind the woman carrying the baby he wanted to kill), but we don't know what that indicates exactly..... it could be that he just had a sudden urge to grab his crotch. Hard to decipher such messages.....
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/81509killinguptoday.html

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: sander

Still no phone calls from the authorities, Yoda?
You were going to be reported for trying to help these couples find their darlings....whatever happened to all that fuss????

reply from: yoda

Yeah, I'm still on pins and needles waiting for the cops to show up and surround me with a swat team........
Oh, and one so called "prolifer" was going to come down here and physically attack me and destroy my camera........ and I'm still waiting for that one too.
So much hot air.........

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

In addition to the usual parade of baby killing couples and singles at the mill this morning, we had a visit from a celebrity.
First, the mill: Business was down a little, but not nearly enough. We got a couple of shout outs from the first customers of the day, who tried to get in before opening time and were frustrated to find the door still locked. The female gave us a "slit throat" signal, and the male bellowed something about an 8 year old girl in Arizona being gang raped. Exactly how that was supposed to justify his and her presence there eluded us completely. I still haven't figured that one out.
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/82209killingemsoftly.html

About an hour later, we went to see some street theater in downtown Knoxville:
"Knoxville was honored today by the visit of nationally known antiabortion activist Randall Terry and his crew of three. At around 10AM he and his crew (who are currently on a ten city tour) set up on Cumberland Avenue in downtown Knoxville for some antiabortion, anti-ObamaCare street theater. He and two other crew members act out a short passion play in the time honored "Silent Movie" method, while the third crew member filmed the performance. They used an Obama face mask, some toy babies, a doctor's costume, and a fake knife and syringe, but no dialogue.

The plot is pretty easy to follow, as the "doctor" (RT) stabs dead and discards three babies, and then a "little old lady" shows up. She looks to Obama, and he gives her a white card. She gives the card to the "doctor", who then "examines" her. The "doctor" then shakes his head negatively, from side to side, and "Obama" gives a thumbs down signal. At that signal, the "doctor" stabs the "little old lady" with a dirty syringe, and she falls down. "Obama" and the "doctor" then shake hands, and the doctor looks towards the camera and says "NEXT!"
Following the play, WATE TV 6 did an interview with RT. The next scheduled stop on their tour was Chattanooga, TN. Good luck to them in their efforts to use this unusual (but time honored) method of reaching mass audiences with their message."
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/82209terrytheater.html

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

One... single payer system
Hilarious way to start a Monday morning!
http://www.jillstanek.com/archives/2009/08/one_single_paye.html

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Fletcher's Army
At around 8AM on Wednesday, August 26th, 2009, a group of about 100 mostly local Pro-Lifers gathered at the World's Fair Park in Knoxville, Tennessee, at the request of Fletcher Armstrong, director of the Knoxville office of the Center for Bioethical Reform.
The purpose of this gathering was to make an announcement of CBR's plans to resist the exapansion of Planned Parenthood in Knoxville, by the use of "Weapons of Mass Instruction". He read a prepared statement on how they plan to use public exposure and protests to pressure the local business community not to support this expansion. One local media outlet sent a cameraman to record the announcement. The weather was beautiful, and the atmosphere was energetic.
One gentleman from Chattanooga related how their city, which is now the largest US city without an abortuary, recently faced the challenge of a threatened new abortuary to be established by an abortuary owner from Charlotte. He said that they had conducted a campaign against this new abortuary, similar to the one Mr. Armstrong was announcing today, and that they were able to make a difference, since they are still without an abortuary. He said that he had leared though frieds that the owners from Charlotte had decided that in view of the quick and strongly negative response in Chattanooga, it just seems like it would not be "worth the trouble" to expand there. PP, of course, is a much more powerful entity, and may not give up so easily.
http://www.abortionknoxville.com/82609fletchersarmy.html

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

First, the bad news: business was up at the mill today, the front row was full.
Next, the funny news: someone called the cops on me and my buddy Jim. A rather large woman in a lime green top objected to Jim's pleas not to go into the mill today, and told us she would call the cops. Jim (at my urging) told her the number was 9-1-1. She replied "I'm not that stupid", and proceeded to use her cell phone to summon the city police. The police dutifully showed up a few minutes later, in three (3) squad cars, no doubt to confront the danger to public safety Jim and I, as "suspected terrorists", presented.
In what was a new experience to me, the first policeman approached us in a confrontational manner, with a bit of an attitude. First he asked to see our "permits" (I should have said "We don't need no stinking permits, but I didn't think of it). When I replied that we had no permits, he proceeded to threaten us with arrest. When I asked on what charge, he said that anytime someone calls in a complaint on "us", he will come and arrest us. So naturally I asked him if he meant that a call from one person he didn't even know was all he needed to arrest us, and then he backed up a bit. The second time, he added to information that he would "conduct an investigation, and if the results of the investigation indicated that an arrest was appropriate, he would then arrest us". I liked his second threat much better than the first, so I told him I was satisfied with that. Then he went on to say that if I had a bloody nose, and I called him and told him that a certain person had hit me, he would go and arrest that person. My reply was that a bloody nose constitutes physical evidence, and there was no physical evidence that any laws had been broken here this morning. To that, he replied that "If a pattern develops where many different people call in with the same complaint on us, he would consider that to be evidence". So, I asked him how many complaints he had received today, and he said that "This is the first one today". You can imagine my relief to learn that!!
At one point, he asked my buddy Jim and I "which one of you was doing the shouting". We replied that neither of us was, and Jim said that he was simply talking to them, which he was. Of course, at that distance you have to raise you voice a little to be heard, and the lady in lime green responded equally loudly to Jim. So, if Jim broke the law by raising his voice, then she certainly did also. And she threw in a few profanities as well, which Jim did not. But of course, I didn't think to point that out to the officer at the time.
Following that conversation, this young officer and the two other (older) officers had a conference with the lady in lime green who had called in the complaint. One of our protesters overheard one of the other officers tell the woman that "They have the right to say what they think". Soon after, the lady in lime green walked sadly back to the abortion mill, and the police officers got into their cruisers and left, quietly.
I suppose the lesson in this was that a few police officers do seem to think that they ought to be able to arrest us on nothing more than a complain from someone at the mill who doesn't like what we say about abortion. Thankfully, they are in the minority in this town. Cooler heads seem to have prevailed today.
And while the patrol cars were still there, a middle aged man walked by a couple times. The second time, he looked at my "I AM A PERSON" sign (with the healthy 10 week old fetus) as shook his head from side to side. "It's terrible, isn't it?", I asked him. "You guys are nuts", he replied. "Why, because we don't kill babies?" I asked. His response? Sooo typically, he completely changed the subject to "Do you know what the Pope did in world war two?" Jim and I were dumbfounded by the idiocy of his question... and I responded that neither of us was Catholic, and what does that have to do with baby killing anyway? Both of us were struck by how typical that is for a proabort to totally abandon any discussion that has the words "baby killing" in it.
It's been a busy, exciting week.......
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/82909bigexcitement.html

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Today outside the mill it was quieter. No hyper ventilating, screaming women calling 911, no prissy middle aged men walking by and demanding to know "What about what the Pope did in WW2", no cops with an attitude telling us they'll arrest us just because someone complained (and then backing off that threat). No, it was relatively quiet outside the mill, and maybe inside too...... because unborn dying babies make no noise, do they?
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/9509manybabiesdie.html

reply from: sander

Nope, dying babies in their mother's womb are seemingly very quiet. No one can hear them..
Large lime green shirted women with even larger guilty consciences, can be heard it seems.
Ah yes...that darn Pope....
oy Yoda...you and your friend Jim are pictures of patience.
Thank him for me by the way, I so appreciate his efforts.

reply from: yoda

Yep..... and even though she was actually louder than Jim, we are the ones that the cop threatened. Fortunately, this one was the exception, most of them here are polite and respectful of all.
Yeah, I'm still amused about that one..... too bad Faramir wasn't there... oh wait, he never responds to criticism of the RCC from proaborts, does he?

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: Darkmoon

I knew four women who killed themselves because they were forced by family and society to relinquish their children. Before some ***** tries to say I advocate abortion, I am going to say plainly that these girls wanted their babies and were told they were unworthy sluts and FORCED to relinquish babies they chose to birth.
When are you pricks going to address the human trade market and the misuse of women in the adoption market? Human beings are being treated as livestock for the rich, each day. Stop the barbaric practice of tearing newborns from their mother's arms the second they are born. Give young women a chance, rather than "slut-shaming" them into relinquishing their children to "white bread Christian families".

reply from: yoda

When are you A-holes going to address the abuse of children and women by radical Islamic fathers?
There are supposedly about 4 billion people on earth, and probably just about that many good causes that need our help. When are you going to start addressing all of them at the same time?
To chide someone because they are not addressing ALL the evils in the world is quiet simply moronic. Either that, or it's a deliberate attempt to distract and divert someone from a cause you don't want them to participate in. I suspect the latter, quite frankly.
Help us to stop the barbaric practice of tearing unborn humans limb from limb while they're still in the womb, and we'll talk.

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

It's been a busy and eventful week.
On Labor Day Monday, we moved the Crosses for the Unborn display to a church in West Knoxville.
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/9709littlecrosses.html

On Thursday, Sept. 10th, we set up the booth for the TRL display at the TVA&I Fair in Chilhowee Park in East Knoxville.
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/91009tvaifair.html

Today, we once again witnessed the sad parade of baby killers into the door of the death camp on Concord Street in downtown Knoxville. Very sadly, business was booming on this "home game day". Yes, we were reassured that our #1 ranking was still intact, but that was of little comfort in view of the threat by another female customer to "whip our a--" (row 7, middle). Luckily for us, she did not see fit to carry out her threat. Otherwise, it was the same sad parade of murderous parents and their accomplices.
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/91209killingsomemore.html

reply from: sander

Yoda, you're a very, very special man.
Thank you for all you do for the sake of the babies.

reply from: sk1bianca

forcing women to give their children for adoption is sick.
telling children nasty things about their mothers is also sick (even if sometimes they are sluts).
saying that it is better for a child to be brutally killed than given to someone else to raise him in better conditions is extremely sick.
agreed?

reply from: yoda

Hmm....... yeah, but how does that relate?

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

First the good news: we saw one couple turn around today. They went in like most of them, somber faced and determined. A little while later, they came out with mile wide grins on their faces. They got into their vehicle and left, and were not seen coming back while I was there. I usually don't post photos of those who turn around, but the contrast between the expressions on this couple's faces and on the others that apparently went ahead and killed their baby is just too good to hide. Plus, this couple really has practically nothing to be ashamed of now, since they let their baby live. I won't tell you which one it is, I'll let you find them: Just look for the ONLY couple with big grins!
Now the bad news: several others apparently went through with killing their babies. Their photos are here, also: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/91909onebabylived.html

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com
I wonder why spitwaddy doesn't attack the murdered man on this thread, and keep it bumped up?

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com
(Here's a great place for spitwaddy to cast aspersions at someone who was prolife and was murdered.)

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: yoda

Business was about back to normal, sadly. One couple left early, but then came back a few minutes later. Other than that, people just came in to kill their babies.
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/92609killingasusual.html

However, at the same time, across the street, the fall 40 Days for Life Campaign was in full swing. Their opening ceremonies were held last Wednesday the 23rd, and a nice crowd of about a dozen or so showed up this morning, in good spirits despite the rain. Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/9260940daysforlife.html

We try to do our part, and hope a few will be spared their death sentence. It's like watching lemmings leap off a cliff, and being helpless to stop them.

reply from: saucie

Glad for the 40 Days of Life Campagin and hope it has great success.
Very, very sad and heartbroken for the loss of the darling babies.

reply from: yoda

Spitwaddy hasn't attacked the murdered prolifer in a few days, maybe she'll use this thread to do that....... (sometimes bullets just aren't enough, proaborts need to throw some "verbal stones" at the murder victim after his death!)

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com
(Spitwaddy hasn't attacked the murdered prolifer lately, maybe she'll do it on this thread and keep it active.)

reply from: yoda

Last week was another pretty hectic one. The 40 Days for Life campaign is in full swing, and I included one photo of their Wednesday setup with the regular abortion mill photos.
We had one woman yell proudly at us that she was a grandmother, as she walked into the mill with a small child and a teenage girl. Another woman called Jim an unrepeatable name and said she was just there "for a pregnancy test". But I ask you, no matter how cheap it is, why would any woman trust the result of a pregnancy test done at an abortion mill? Are there that many women who don't understand the phrase "conflict of interest"? Or the habit abortion mills have of selling abortions to women who are not pregnant? (That they are also supporting a business that kills babies is another problem I have with such claims of "innocence".)
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/10309killingcontinues.html

On Friday and Saturday, we moved the Crosses for the Unborn display to a church in North Knoxville. It is a beautiful place, and I sprinkled in several landscape photos I made there.
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/10309crossesmoved.html

reply from: saucie

Great work Yoda.
Reading a "grandmother" entered made me sick to my stomach.
I just had my darling grandson over night and all day...the idea of any of my grandchildren winding up like hers is beyond understanding.

reply from: yoda

I know exactly what you mean. I just have to block it out sometimes.
Here's something I think every prolifer will appreciate:
'Unforgettable' Pro-Life Film
PopModal.com:
"It's The Same Thing" is controversial, polarizing, and unique in the way it depicts present-day attitudes about abortion. This film will impact you deeply, and you'll either be infuriated or in solemn agreement. Regardless of your beliefs about abortion, you will never forget "It's The Same Thing."
http://www.covenantnews.com/blog/archives/060929.html

reply from: saucie

OH YES, IT'S THE SAME THING!

reply from: 4given

Praise reports welcomed from the women and men blessed through adoption. Thankful on behalf of birth parents, adoptive parents and the unborn that you are doing what you can to make the connections. Thankful to the women and men that are willing to bless the lives of others with their child through adoption. Praying for an adoption movement.

reply from: yoda

Knoxville was overcast, rainy, and dark this morning. Inside the mill, it was even darker.
One customer came over and told us how innocent he was, and how he was against his daughter having the abortion (but of course, not against it enough to refrain from bringing her there). I wasn't impressed with his pleas at all. I think he was trying to convince himself that he was "innocent".
No police harassment, no ugly words or signals, and no attacks. Quiet day. So, we don't know if we're still number one.
photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/1010darkdaydarkdeed.html

reply from: saucie

You're the real number one with the babies and true prolifers.
That grandfather ( and he is one from now on...he's just one to a dead baby)
I shudder everytime I think of a grandparent helping to murder one of their own grandbabies...I can't wrap my thoughts around such a horrible thought)...anyway,
That grandfather sounds like every other proabort on the planet...try and place the blame somewhere else.
NOT for ALL the money in the world would I ever drive anyone...let alone my very own child to a place that a baby would be butchered.
There aren't enough pleas or styles of pleas, or reasons to make me do it...No sir, NOT ANY...NOT EVER!
Shame on him....he has a dead grandbaby and a daughter that will suffer the rest of her life in one form or another.
But, thanks again Yoda....for all you do.

reply from: yoda

Exactly. They use the excuse "We're just supporting our daughter", which is simply a LIE. By driving her down there, they are supporting her ACTION in killing that baby. They are ACCOMPLICES and ENABLERS to the killing!

reply from: yoda

Bump, so spitwaddy can attack someone else.......

reply from: saucie

Her buddy CM is taking over the duties for awhile....oh how boring.

reply from: yoda

I know........ between spitty and bozo and her..... wow, what a tangled triangle!

reply from: Imaginary

Since yodavatar seems to be quite knowledgeable with adoption, and the procedures involved with it, I wondered if it's alright to ask you some questions? I'm quite interested in the differences between the European and American system.
Just wanted to ask before I overload you with my questions...

reply from: yoda

Ask away....... I'll do my best.......

reply from: yoda

There is a wonderful website called "ParentProfiles" that allows couples and families wanting to adopt to register with them, and be listed by the state they are in and a number. It's at: http://www.parentprofiles.com

reply from: fetalisa

Who is collecting the sales fees, I mean 'adoption' fees, when these babies are sold, I mean adopted, after these women have been pressured out of abortion and into adoption? Where are the profits from the sale of these babies going?

reply from: yoda

There is no money involved, as far as I know. But leave it to a blood sucking bort-head to make a totally unfounded accusation against an adoption promotion.
I'm always glad when borties like fecalisa bump this thread.....

reply from: saucie

That freak of nature actually served a decent purpose today and I missed it.
It is the best represenative of the evil, dirty mindset of the proaborts ever concieved.
What a poster "it" for their hateful, death mongering movement.

reply from: fetalisa

http://www.alternet.org/reproductivejustice/142274/preying_on_the_desperate:_the_religious_right%27s_adoption_racket_/?comments=view&cID=1307767&pID=1306668

reply from: yoda

Thanks for bumping the thread for me, fecalisa.
Your typical attack on Christians is noted, as is the fact that parentprofiles is apparently a sectarian enterprise based in Arizona. But don't let that slow you down about spewing out your hatred for everyone.
Here's what happened in K-Patch this AM:
Daylight dawned on Knoxville both dark and dreary today, and the view at the mill made it even worse. The only tiny little silver lining was that the herd of murderous parents was slightly smaller than usual. And of course, being reassured that we're still # 1 was uplifting, too (4th photo).
I threw in a couple photos of the 40 Days for Life crew at the end. It's interesting to see how some of them are waving and smiling, as opposed to hiding their faces, frowning, or looking angry as the mill customers usually do.
Photos: http://www.abortionknoxville.com/1017drearydark.html

reply from: nancyu

Did you know that the Catholic position is that all children have a right to be raised by their own parents. So don't lump the "religious right" all into one big pile.
Personally I'm somewhat against the idea of adoption. Maybe because I was raised in a Catholic family, and it's in my nature. But it makes sense to me that the best place for any child is in a home with his own mother and his own father. Even though their particular mother and father might not be in the ideal financial situation, or employment situation, or whatever. Even though some mothers and fathers aren't considered "fit" by the government agency of the day, for whatever reason, to do the job.
Almost everyone is capable of caring for their own children. Only in the most extreme circumstances would I approve of parents giving up their own children for adoption. But in any situation adoption is a far far far far far better "choice" than killing the child.
Their may be some scammers out there in the adoption world, but the worst of them couldn't even come close to being as despicable as those who scam people out of money to have their own children murdered.

reply from: saucie

That's the difference between night and day.....
Poor little ones...their mis-fortune to be concieved by people with murder in their hearts and in a country where the government sanctions their murders.

reply from: saucie

In memory of one of the finest pro-life warriors ever to be...le'ts keep bumping this thread.
He thought it so beneficial, and truly it has great merit.
I'm so saddened by his loss....

reply from: nancyu

Even though I'm somewhat opposed to adoption in most cases (I think parents should care for their own children) I'm bumping this great thread in honor of yodavater.
Adoption: a far better option than that other "A" word.

reply from: saucie

Thanks for the help in bumping this thread.

reply from: nancyu

I thought we should make a "best of yodavater" thread, but this one serves that purpose perfectly.

reply from: nancyu

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battle-field of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.
But, in a larger sense, we can not dedicate -- we can not consecrate -- we can not hallow -- this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us -- that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion -- that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain -- that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.
***Bump!***

reply from: nancyu

To the top of the page you go.

reply from: lukesmom

I miss you Yoda. Here's to you. Bump.

reply from: nancyu

One more time....for yoda.

reply from: ProInformed

bumping to counter the pro-abort censorship

reply from: ProInformed

bumping for any pregnant women who might come here

reply from: saucie

Sorry Yoda....
Here's your favorite thread bumped to the top.

reply from: galen

miss you Yoda.. keeping up the good fight!

reply from: sk1bianca

bump!
because giving your child for adoption is better than having him dismembered, thrown in the trash and treated like bio waste.
because any chance is better than no chance.

reply from: galen

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reply from: faithman

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reply from: 4given

Miss you Yoda. Praying others have done the same.

reply from: faithman

Bipity bipity bump bump

reply from: faithman

Bump ion memory of a hero.

reply from: faithman

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reply from: faithman

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reply from: nancyu

What the bortheads, and the false pro-lifers do not understand, is that there is more to life than this physical world, and our physical bodies. Our bodies are merely the containers of the precious substance Called life. Life has to have that container to express itself in the natural world. Even if the container is flawed, it still makes it possible for the miracle of life to be expressed. Our common value is not found in the container, but what is contained. The life of a womb child is equal to the life contained in all of us. The only legitimate breaking of this container, is if it has the compunction to smash other containers without cause. When you take way the ability to express life, you loose the great privilege to express your own. Evil aggression must be subdued, or no container can have any security from unjust breakage. To take away the possibility of this wonderful spark of life to be expressed, makes this world a darker place, and the rest of us containers a little more impoverished, and alone. Though the womb child is a small container, it does not lessen the value of the life it contains. If fellow containers do not value the life of the womb child container, then they have placed their personhood container in great jeopardy. Anyone who does not see that womb children are fellow human containers, containing life of equal value to their own, is a self destructive fool, drunk on the power to kill, and must be stopped for the sake of the rest of us life containers. It is the life in us that makes us equal, not our degree of ability to express it.

reply from: faithman

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