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Kay Phelps

gay genocide advocate!!!!!

by: faithman

There you have it folks!!!!!!!!!!! as evidenced on this forum, the hard core pro-aborts are all in for gay genocide. I am sure that the Phelps family are thankful their "right" to bash womb gays will be protected!!!!!!!!!! Way to go kayloveschoice. You haven't seen a womb gay you wouldn't rather see in the trash pail of planned parenthood, than protected from killer homo hating mom.

reply from: faithman

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/10/12/1065917279429.html ..........
http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/08.14.97/gay-prolife-9733.html ..........
http://www.gaypatriot.net/2006/06/27/are-gay-abortions-around-the-corner/ ............

reply from: faithman

Hey kay baby, what about this one?!!!!!http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1358452/posts Why do you hate womb gays sooooo much. I say we protect all womb children from hate mongers like you!!!!!!!!!!!

reply from: Faramir

She is definately prochoice, and therefore I disagree with her and her ideas.
But you've misrepresented her, and this thread is idiotic.
You get another gold star for making prolifers look like whackos.

reply from: kayluvzchoice

grow up... You know as well as I do what I said and what I meant.

reply from: joe

Your discrimination is outrageous.
The gay movement should be aware of this bigotry that pro-aborts preach.

reply from: joe

We look like "whackos" when we preach it is human life and then defend principals that clearly state they are not.
Which pro-lifer does that? Faramir?

reply from: faithman

Ya, you said you were all down with killing gays in the womb. You are anti womb gay.

reply from: kayluvzchoice

Joe/Faithman
I said nothing against homosexuals.
I would be a hypocrite if I thought abortion should only be legal for reasons I agree with.
You should really take a look in the mirror before you call someone a bigot, Joe/FM
Faithman, how the hell are you going to tell someone else that they hate homosexuals when you have such an obvious prejudice against them?? I think many people on here are for protecting a potential life, but you obviously are not.
Faithman:
"Even before aids, it is a fact that homos die decades before hetros. the number one killer among lesbos is other lesbos, not aids by the way."
"Though I disagree with their life style choices, fag lifers help fracture the other side. Main line fagdom has always been pro-womb child killing. So I will stand [not to close] with fag lifers on womb gay rights. I will mail them cards, and aplaud any action they take that may save a pre-born. The whole time I will use my 1st amendment right in telling them that the Lord Jesus Christ will deliver them from their fagdom."
"They are married at the hip, and the most rabid of pro aborts are also flaming bull dyke lesbians."
"then demand that my posts be deleted when I accuratly describe the act of lesbianism in the most tame language posible without watering down the truth."
"But it is the fact that a woman licks another woman's genitals that defines what the life style is all about. If they don't lick, they aint lesbian."
"The pro-queer and the pro-baby killers locally are exactly the same people. The pink too toos actually show up as volunteers and escorts at the PP abortion mill. A pflag lesbian use to be the exec director of PP. What a conversation starter at the next church pick nick. Wear a womb gay rights t shirt."

reply from: faithman

Not a one of my posts are biggeted. They are either a statement of fact, or advocating that little limp wrist in the womb should be protected. But you on the other hand, agree with the phelp's family that gays should be killed. You just want to do it in the womb.

reply from: kayluvzchoice

Okay, where did I say I agree with Westboro and that I hate homosexuals?? Can you show me where I said I think all fetuses that may turn out gay should be aborted??
Can you quote me on it???

reply from: faithman

But you wouldn't stop it either. And you would most assuredly open the door to the clinic to make sure Mizz phelps could kill the womb gay if she "chose" to. You would not lift a finger to stop gay genocide in the womb. You would enable it.

reply from: joe

But you would stop it either. And you would most assuredly open the door to the clinic to make sure Mizz phelps could kill the womb gay if she "chose" to. You would not lift a finger to stop gay genocide it the womb. You would enable it.
Am I reading this right? Kayluvzchoice actually supports gay genocide? I am so disgusted right now I do not know what to say.

reply from: Faramir

But you would stop it either. And you would most assuredly open the door to the clinic to make sure Mizz phelps could kill the womb gay if she "chose" to. You would not lift a finger to stop gay genocide it the womb. You would enable it.
Am I reading this right? Kayluvzchoice actually supports gay genocide? I am so disgusted right now I do not know what to say.
No, she supports abortion rights, and that's what we should object to.
You and faithman are very confused or are purposely misrepresnting her.
We have plenty of ammunition to defeat abortion, and we don't need to lie about those who support abortion rights to do it.

reply from: faithman

But you would stop it either. And you would most assuredly open the door to the clinic to make sure Mizz phelps could kill the womb gay if she "chose" to. You would not lift a finger to stop gay genocide it the womb. You would enable it.
Am I reading this right? Kayluvzchoice actually supports gay genocide? I am so disgusted right now I do not know what to say.
No, she supports abortion rights, and that's what we should object to.
You and faithman are very confused or are purposely misrepresnting her.
We have plenty of ammunition to defeat abortion, and we don't need to lie about those who support abortion rights to do it.
No one has lied about Kay is for gay genocide by abortion. Now punk, when are you going to start defending womb children insted of bortheads?

reply from: Faramir

That's really a stretch, faithman.
I don't agree with her postion about abortion, but to misrepresent her reasons for abortion does not serve the prolife side, and makes prolifers look like liars and tricksters.

reply from: faithman

No stretch at all jerk. Part of abortion on demand is gay genocide. That is what the gays call it. So go call them liers. the pro-life bowel movement looks bad already with turds like you in it. You have done nothing but defend one borthead after another sence you been here. When are you going to start defending womb children insted of bortheads? I think you are the liar. you are not pro-life at all.

reply from: joe

But you would stop it either. And you would most assuredly open the door to the clinic to make sure Mizz phelps could kill the womb gay if she "chose" to. You would not lift a finger to stop gay genocide it the womb. You would enable it.
Am I reading this right? Kayluvzchoice actually supports gay genocide? I am so disgusted right now I do not know what to say.
No, she supports abortion rights, and that's what we should object to.
You and faithman are very confused or are purposely misrepresnting her.
We have plenty of ammunition to defeat abortion, and we don't need to lie about those who support abortion rights to do it.
She condones the killing of gay unborn children which is a hate crime. I don't know Faramir, maybe you also support gay genocide you seem a little sensitive in support of this bigotry.

reply from: Faramir

But you would stop it either. And you would most assuredly open the door to the clinic to make sure Mizz phelps could kill the womb gay if she "chose" to. You would not lift a finger to stop gay genocide it the womb. You would enable it.
Am I reading this right? Kayluvzchoice actually supports gay genocide? I am so disgusted right now I do not know what to say.
No, she supports abortion rights, and that's what we should object to.
You and faithman are very confused or are purposely misrepresnting her.
We have plenty of ammunition to defeat abortion, and we don't need to lie about those who support abortion rights to do it.
She condones the killing of gay unborn children which is a hate crime. I don't know Faramir, maybe you also support gay genocide you seem a little sensitive in support of this bigotry.
It's become clear that I'm a "pro life bort head fag hatin scanc."
The writing is on the wall and I've been found out.
I hate when that happens.

reply from: Faramir

If you're not a politically correct prolifer, and if you don't say that every argument against bort-heads is brilliant, even if it sucks, that makes you a bort-head too, and maybe even a nazi.

reply from: kayluvzchoice

Wow.
I honestly did not think that faithman and Joe could be anymore ridiculous.
It is very obvious that the only reason FM is clinging on to this and repeating it because twisting words is all he has to cling to. Fm, you are no more pro-life than I am...

reply from: LolitaOlivia

Y'all notice faithman rarely responds to an argument or presents his own? It seems like almost all of his posts are just reposts of something stupid he said earlier. It's kind of sad that he needs to keep quoting himself. I think he's desperate for attention but all out of arguments.

reply from: faithman

I just want an honest answere as to why bortheads support, enable, and promote gay genocide by abortion? Isn't that a hate crime Lolita phelps?

reply from: LolitaOlivia

I just want an honest answere as to why bortheads support, enable, and promote gay genocide by abortion? Isn't that a hate crime Lolita phelps?
Being gay doesn't give you the right to use someone's body. If a woman doesn't want a gay child, that's her decision. It's like if a racist woman doesn't want to have sex with a black man, does that give the black man the right to rape her? No. People have the right to decide who uses their uterus. Besides, I don't think homophobes would make very good parents.

reply from: faithman

I just want an honest answere as to why bortheads support, enable, and promote gay genocide by abortion? Isn't that a hate crime Lolita phelps?
Being gay doesn't give you the right to use someone's body. If a woman doesn't want a gay child, that's her decision. It's like if a racist woman doesn't want to have sex with a black man, does that give the black man the right to rape her? No. People have the right to decide who uses their uterus. Besides, I don't think homophobes would make very good parents.
SSSSSOOOOO it is better to kill a womb gay than having a parent that didn't agree with their orientation? You could care less about gay genocide by abortion?

reply from: yoda

I don't know about all that, but why is it that you seem to take it as your duty to correct all prolife "errors" on this forum? Did someone appoint you as the master prolife authority, in charge of correcting others?
Why not let them swim or sink on their own? Do you really think that we belong to some club that gets judged by the words of every member? We don't, we are individuals, some of which belong to individual organizations, and some of which are totally independent agents. Our words do not "reflect" on you or the whole prolife movement, except in the eyes of the proaborts (and we don't give a damn about their perceptions).
Lighten up. We don't need or want a prolife referee/umpire here.

reply from: faithman

I don't know about all that, but why is it that you seem to take it as your duty to correct all prolife "errors" on this forum? Did someone appoint you as the master prolife authority, in charge of correcting others?
Why not let them swim or sink on their own? Do you really think that we belong to some club that gets judged by the words of every member? We don't, we are individuals, some of which belong to individual organizations, and some of which are totally independent agents. Our words do not "reflect" on you or the whole prolife movement, except in the eyes of the proaborts (and we don't give a damn about their perceptions).
Lighten up. We don't need or want a prolife referee/umpire here.
Particularly one who seems to be paid by Planned Parenthood.

reply from: Faramir

I don't know about all that, but why is it that you seem to take it as your duty to correct all prolife "errors" on this forum? Did someone appoint you as the master prolife authority, in charge of correcting others?
Why not let them swim or sink on their own? Do you really think that we belong to some club that gets judged by the words of every member? We don't, we are individuals, some of which belong to individual organizations, and some of which are totally independent agents. Our words do not "reflect" on you or the whole prolife movement, except in the eyes of the proaborts (and we don't give a damn about their perceptions).
Lighten up. We don't need or want a prolife referee/umpire here.
So what would you have me do?
Ignore faithman's idiotic statements the way you and Sander do, and just let them stand?
Or follow your example the way you two are all over Carolemarie like a rash and "umpiring" everything she says?
Like you told me, this place is a "free for all."
Rules and guidelines would sure help, but until then, I'm gonna do what seems best and learn as I go.

reply from: faithman

I don't know about all that, but why is it that you seem to take it as your duty to correct all prolife "errors" on this forum? Did someone appoint you as the master prolife authority, in charge of correcting others?
Why not let them swim or sink on their own? Do you really think that we belong to some club that gets judged by the words of every member? We don't, we are individuals, some of which belong to individual organizations, and some of which are totally independent agents. Our words do not "reflect" on you or the whole prolife movement, except in the eyes of the proaborts (and we don't give a damn about their perceptions).
Lighten up. We don't need or want a prolife referee/umpire here.
So what would you have me do?
Ignore faithman's idiotic statements the way you and Sander do, and just let them stand?
Or follow your example the way you two are all over Carolemarie like a rash and "umpiring" everything she says?
Like you told me, this place is a "free for all."
Rules and guidelines would sure help, but until then, I'm gonna do what seems best and learn as I go.
Only problem is you don't learn. you continue to suppoet the borties and trash pro-lifers. It is pefectly logical to confront the borties on the womb gay issue. Pro-life gays are the ones who bring up the gay genocide by abortion issue. It is a legitamate pro-life question. Are the borties going to suport abortion on demand, even if it could mean 90% of gays would be aborted just like Downs babies? That is a perfectly logical pertinant question. SSSSSOOOOOOOOOOOO if you simply don't like my style, tell us oh wise one, how would you ask the question?

reply from: LolitaOlivia

No, I really couldn't care less about something that's not happening now, and probably will never become an epidemic in the future. Even if we could know if a fetus is gay or not, people aren't as prejudiced as they once were. Only the worst homophobes would get an abortion to avoid raising a gay child. And even if it did keep happening, being gay doesn't give you the right to use someone's body against their will. A woman should be able to decide who uses her body. If she's prejudiced against a certain group, that's her business. I mean, what if she no longer had the right to refuse to have sex with some men because her reasons for refusing them were prejudiced?

reply from: yoda

And the problem with that would be...........???
I do believe you are engaging in a bit of hyperbole, in order to justify your constant attacks on the strategies of other prolifers. No one challenges carole's way of attacking the proaborts, do they? In point of fact, we often agree with her arguments against the proaborts. What we sometimes question her about has nothing to do with her way of fighting the baby killers, and you know that.
Obviously. And we are so lucky to have an outsider like you come here to engage in a crusade to correct our many mistakes, because we just can't learn from our own experiences and take care of our own "crusades" against the proaborts. We must have someone like you to crusade against us (other than the proaborts, of course). So, maybe I should say "how lucky the proaborts are to have someone like you to help them attack us constantly.
I wonder if they are appropriately grateful?

reply from: sander

Maybe he's providing an escort service for the pro-aborts? He certainly follows some pro-lifers from thread to thread making sure any mistakes he sees are pointed out and their arguments proped up...hmmm, what a job, but I'm pretty sure it's thankless.

reply from: faithman

No, I really couldn't care less about something that's not happening now, and probably will never become an epidemic in the future. Even if we could know if a fetus is gay or not, people aren't as prejudiced as they once were. Only the worst homophobes would get an abortion to avoid raising a gay child. And even if it did keep happening, being gay doesn't give you the right to use someone's body against their will. A woman should be able to decide who uses her body. If she's prejudiced against a certain group, that's her business. I mean, what if she no longer had the right to refuse to have sex with some men because her reasons for refusing them were prejudiced?
So you do suport gay genocide by abortion? If every womb gay was scheduled to be "terminated" at Planned parenthood, you would be all down for that?

reply from: Faramir

And I think your use of the words "constant" and "attacks" are exaggerations, and I don't need to justify my disagreement with what I think is a bad argument, and a mischaracterization of another poster's intent.
And if someone is called a "scanc" again, I will speak up about it again, because there is no exuse for that kind of abuse.

reply from: faithman

Have yall seen what that pro-death scumb bag maggot scanc Kay phelps has posted? She is for gay genocide as long as you get it done in the womb.

reply from: yoda

Probably so. And any thank-you notes will probably remain private, I guess.

reply from: sander

No they're not.
You may not have to justify, but I'd sure like to know who appointed you judge and jury of the pro-lifers here...just wondering.

reply from: yoda

Yeah, especially when the poster being "mischaracterized" is a proabort, right?
No, you don't need any "justification". I'm just amazed at the compulsion you seem to have to say everything that comes into your head. Must be a real downer not to be able to keep any negative thoughts to yourself, huh?

reply from: faithman

Lest we be distracted from what the thred was about http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1358452/posts HHHHMMMMMMM maybe that is the intent of some. Insted of bringing up the issue of gay pro-lifers, lets just join the bortheads in slamming a group taking the life issue right into the enemies camp. I think it is a legit question. I am 100% for the right to live for all gays. The borties are only 50% gay life advocates, as they would protect women as the commited gay genocide. they have already consented to such on this thred.

reply from: Faramir

To the abortion advocate, abortion is acceptable for any reason. To the prolifer, it is unacceptable for any reason.
I'm not following how a prochoicer could be against homosexuals by not supporting the "womb gay" since a homosexual is a person, and they don't see life in the womb as a person.

reply from: faithman

Dude! Please! Go back and read their posts. They don't care if a genetic link is found. this issue does 2 things. It proves the borties don't really believe their own lies about womb life, and they are willing to kill gays just to keep the right to kill everybody. But I bet when they are alone and know nobody else is listening, they are honest about the eugenic bent of the abortion camp. They want to kill "undesirables", and the homos can be put in that catagory real easy if they become a problem. We have an untapped ally in this fight. The gay lifers are able to take it to the borties in ways I never could. Most gay lifers are not the act out in rest room types. Gay Genocide by abortion is a big issue, or Law and Order would not have done an episode on it. And as we have seen on this forum, the borties do not do a very good job at all over comming the obvious problems this issue presents to their camp. This could be the card, once pulled, that makes their little house come tumbling down. It may also open us up to a scientific solution to help those afflicted with urges they can not explain. At any rate, I do not believe that homos should be killed whether born or preborn. Bortheads just can't bring themselves to say that. they would rather see a gay genocide, than admit what they know is true, that a womb child is a person.

reply from: faithman

Dude! Please! Go back and read their posts. They don't care if a genetic link is found. this issue does 2 things. It proves the borties don't really believe their own lies about womb life, and they are willing to kill gays just to keep the right to kill everybody. But I bet when they are alone and know nobody else is listening, they are honest about the eugenic bent of the abortion camp. They want to kill "undesirables", and the homos can be put in that catagory real easy if they become a problem. We have an untapped ally in this fight. The gay lifers are able to take it to the borties in ways I never could. Most gay lifers are not the act out in rest room types. Gay Genocide by abortion is a big issue, or Law and Order would not have done an episode on it. And as we have seen on this forum, the borties do not do a very good job at all over comming the obvious problems this issue presents to their camp. This could be the card, once pulled, that makes their little house come tumbling down. It may also open us up to a scientific solution to help those afflicted with urges they can not explain. At any rate, I do not believe that homos should be killed whether born or preborn. Bortheads just can't bring themselves to say that. they would rather see a gay genocide, than admit what they know is true, that a womb child is a person.

reply from: kayluvzchoice

Seriously FM, go see a professional about your mental health. If you already are, see another one.

reply from: sander

Someone who has a death wish for the unborn needs the help, seriously.
What's your shrink saying these days? Nothing? Then find one who will tell you the truth.

reply from: Teresa18

Sadly, many in the mental health field are quite liberal and support abortion.

reply from: sander

True. So, Kayluvsdeath will have her work cut out for her.

reply from: yoda

Yeah, they know they can't cure them, so they don't want them to reproduce.

reply from: kayluvzchoice

Someone who has a death wish for the unborn needs the help, seriously.
What's your shrink saying these days? Nothing? Then find one who will tell you the truth.
If you honestly think pro-choicers have it out for fetuses and embryos, and actually WANT to see them dead, you reallly need to educate yourself.

reply from: 4given

I think many are aware that "choicers" only care about themselves. It is all about whatever they may WANT. Right?! Isn't that your argument?

reply from: joe

Someone who has a death wish for the unborn needs the help, seriously.
What's your shrink saying these days? Nothing? Then find one who will tell you the truth.
If you honestly think pro-choicers have it out for fetuses and embryos, and actually WANT to see them dead, you reallly need to educate yourself.
Is the confused gay genocide advocate talking again?
Your hatred toward the gay unborn children is simply appalling.

reply from: jujujellybean

That's what's sad. You may think it's bad and all that they are being killed by the millions, but you don't care enough to stand up for them and stop the murder. You think the woman's right trumps the right to life for the unborn.

reply from: yoda

Nah, just the ones that post here, probably.
How else could a person turn a cold shoulder to 4,000 unborn babies a day?
How else could a person deny a baby the right to life simply because it was created only recently?
What else could be in the heart of such a person but a cold stone?

reply from: faithman

Nah, just the ones that post here, probably.
How else could a person turn a cold shoulder to 4,000 unborn babies a day?
How else could a person deny a baby the right to life simply because it was created only recently?
What else could be in the heart of such a person but a cold stone?
Today class, we shall study what makes one a death scanc. Notice the heartless disreguard for the life of a womb child! Their blood lust to kill the child no matter what. Notice how they like to punk off at the mouth, and talk total trash about anyone who would dare endanger their "right" to feel powerful by killing the helpless. Notice how they are for gay genocide to protect abortion on demand. Notice how they are willing to kill so a child does not get in the way of laying around with any ole thing. This concludes the first lesson of "recognizing death scancs 101". This course is to comply with the borties admonition to "get educated". This public service is provided by pro-personhood university. A higher educational virtual institution, to equip, and empower one to be an effective personhood for the womb child advocate .

reply from: yoda

Yeah, ain't that a sight?

reply from: faithman

Yeah, ain't that a sight?
give mr yoda a gold star for the day!!

reply from: kayluvzchoice

Someone who has a death wish for the unborn needs the help, seriously.
What's your shrink saying these days? Nothing? Then find one who will tell you the truth.
If you honestly think pro-choicers have it out for fetuses and embryos, and actually WANT to see them dead, you reallly need to educate yourself.
Is the confused gay genocide advocate talking again?
Your hatred toward the gay unborn children is simply appalling.
You don't have any idea what you are talking about.

reply from: sander

Listen, Kayluvsdeadbabies, yes I do honestly think you people have it "out" for newly concieved human beings. How on earth could there be any other conclusion? You're the ones who support women killing their children for the most selfish of reasons. Can't take the obvious baggage that comes along with supporting dead babies then that's your problem.

reply from: kayluvzchoice

The ONLY reason you guys are using the terms "child" and "baby" is to make your side look like the saviors of humanity and to gain followers. It isn't that effective when you preach about zygotes, embryos, or fetuses is it? Why would anyone be after a fetus? Do you know how ridiculous that sounds?
"You're the ones who support women killing their children for the most selfish of reasons. "
What reasons do you consider "selfish"?
Do you consider putting children up for adoption just for the parent's "convenience" selfish also?
"Can't take the obvious baggage that comes along with supporting dead babies then that's your problem."
No, it isn't. You are choosing to be prejudice and judgmental. That is your problem and you need to grow up.

reply from: Smurfy

Once again, I'll remind you that pro-choice people do not want to kill babies for the sake of killing babies. "Kayluvsdeadbabies" is a misnomer as there is no evidence that she enjoys seeing babies killed/dead.
That might be true for people who advocate abortion as the only option, but those people are few and far between. They are most certainly not pro-choice, since they do no want people to choose.

reply from: sander

Once again, I'll remind you that pro-choice people do not want to kill babies for the sake of killing babies. "Kayluvsdeadbabies" is a misnomer as there is no evidence that she enjoys seeing babies killed/dead.
That might be true for people who advocate abortion as the only option, but those people are few and far between. They are most certainly not pro-choice, since they do no want people to choose.
I don't need any of your reminders, I know exactly what you want and others like you support.
YOU SUPPORT, therefore, want the wholesale slaughter of innocent babies who die each day for the high crime of being conceived.
And it's TRUE for all of those who support abortion.
You may try and disassociate with all the baggage that goes with it, but like I told Kayluvsdeadbabies, that's your problem.
Guess I need to start calling you, smurfyluvsdeadbabies too, because you can't have it both ways no matter how hard you try and twist out of it.

reply from: sander

No it's NOT the reason. The reason is because it is the truth. Got a problem with facing facts, kayluvsdeadbabies? You need to learn how to deal with the truth.
Why would anyone go after a fetus? Okay, I'll pretend I know what on earth you're talking about, so here's a stab at it.
Fetus is just a word meaning, "little one". So, is it better we say kayluvsdeadlittleones?
I certainly know how ridiculous it sounds to try and squirm out of supporting the killing of children.
How many times do you need to go around this? Selfish is aborting the child in the womb for any reason other than the life of the mother. Btw, which has never been illegal in this country.
And just so you hopefully won't pull that tired old argument out again, NO it is not selfish for putting a child up for adoption. It's the single most unselfish act on earth...got it now?
I need to grow up? Well, that's rich...you're the one who supports abortion on demand, the single most prejudical and judgmental act on earth.
YOU'RE prejudice against the baby and support judging another human being UNFIT TO LIVE.
Grow up indeed, that's a case of projection if there ever was one.

reply from: Smurfy

Unfortunately, I shall keep providing reminders, regardless of what you know.
It isn't wholesale slaughter. It is individuals making an individual choice.
I have no problem.
You may call me whatever you wish; it ultimately does nothing and proves nothing.

reply from: sander

Fortunatley, the powers that be have created an ignore feature on this site, so we'll see how long you'll provide anything.
4,000 per day is wholesale slaughter. No matter how you twist it, the facts remain in spite of the proaborts denial.
Supporting death to the unborn is a problem, you just chose not to view it that way, facts still remain.
Am I suppose to be moved by what you think.

reply from: Teresa18

We use those terms because they are correct. You guys use the scientific terms because they dehumanize the child.

reply from: yoda

Ah, kay, you've discovered out secret.
Yes, we're out to gain a following of zealots and sympathizers by using plain, ordinary words that have been in use for many centuries. How did you get on to us? What gave us away?
"Plain talk" is what some call it. The Amish endorse it, and at least one prominent politician claims to do it. And that's out secret: plain talk.
Too bad you proaborts can't use it, it would spoil your whole campaign to convince people to be ice cold and heartless with respect to unborn babies. No one would heed your advice to "place the power of a woman to kill her baby over the life of that baby". It just doesn't sound convincing, does it?

reply from: yoda

It doesn't really matter WHY the want to see babies killed, the result is the same and equally wrong to us. Dead babies are the result of prochoice policies.
Yes, they most CERTAINLY ARE "prochoice". Need I remind you AGAIN of the TRUE, ACTUAL DEFINITION of that term?
pro-choice adjective advocating access to legal abortion: advocating open legal access to voluntary abortion http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/pro-choice.html

reply from: faithman

Ah, kay, you've discovered out secret.
Yes, we're out to gain a following of zealots and sympathizers by using plain, ordinary words that have been in use for many centuries. How did you get on to us? What gave us away?
"Plain talk" is what some call it. The Amish endorse it, and at least one prominent politician claims to do it. And that's out secret: plain talk.
Too bad you proaborts can't use it, it would spoil your whole campaign to convince people to be ice cold and heartless with respect to unborn babies. No one would heed your advice to "place the power of a woman to kill her baby over the life of that baby". It just doesn't sound convincing, does it?
And the reason they use their code names for womb children is to dehumanize them enough to indiscrimantly kill them. Genocide always sounds better when it hides behind science.

reply from: yoda

Well it's easier to be cold, hard, and uncaring when you're using scientific, technical terms..... as if unborn babies were some kind of microbe. Wait, come to think of it, that's how many proaborts do feel about babies......

reply from: NewMom

Ah... where to start. I'll start with the known fact amongst all of us we can indefinitely agree on that there are babies being slaughtered as we type each word in the united states and different parts of the world. After stating that, what I am grasping out of this is that somehow hatred of gays is affecting how we view people's stances. You can be prolife and gay, you can be gay and be pro-abort, hell you can be straight and pro-abort. Shouldn't it mostly matter whether or not someone is prolife?
Since this is just a forum and none of us know our true identities, maybe I'm not really straight, maybe I'm a gay Catholic who got in vitro fertilization from my best male buddy, and had a miscarriage - really I am not, (obviously!) but would that change your opinion of me, and would it change the fact that I am prolife?
I have many gay friends.... they support my crusade of education, abstinence and a prolife Ontario, then a prolife Canada, and they stand beside me in my army. Whether or not they sleep with a man or a woman is disregarded - if its one more person that turns prolife, and will stand up and live prolife and defend it, its good enough for me.

reply from: kayluvzchoice

"you're the one who supports abortion on demand, the single most prejudical and judgmental act on earth."
How is that judgmental or prejudice?
"YOU'RE prejudice against the baby and support judging another human being UNFIT TO LIVE."
How am I prejudice against a fetus? I never said that fetuses are not deserving of life. Where did you get that?

reply from: faithman

When you say you love the choice to kill them scanc.

reply from: kayluvzchoice

Are you really this disrespectful and rude to people outside of forums?

reply from: faithman

Every chance I get when it is pro-aborts. Borthead scancs deserve no respect at all. They deserve to be thrown off of buildings, and dogs lap up their blood. But thats just me.

reply from: kayluvzchoice

lol. How do you get through life thinking that everyone who disagrees with you deserves death? How the hell are you going to label yourself "pro-life" when you support so much death?
Borthead scancs deserve no respect at all. They deserve to be thrown off of buildings, and dogs lap up their blood. But thats just me.
You are a "pro-abort" genocide advocate...

reply from: faithman

Don't insult me by calling me "pro-life". I am not, and have said so on several of my last posts. I am pro-personhood for the womb child. pro-abort genocide has a nice ring to it. Better you than the babies.

reply from: kayluvzchoice

No. I think a better label for you would be psychotic hypocrite.

reply from: faithman

Psychotic? no. hypocrit? how so?

reply from: jujujellybean

Perhaps, but they are not killing the child, and took the pains to have the child and not kill it. Selfish is when someone kills an innocent human because they don't feel ready to have a child. So they kill it.

reply from: NewMom

Kay doesn't love choice, Kay loves Kay. That is clear when you can say its ok to kill off something that isn't wanted. If you didn't want to have your cat, would you kill your cat? Or your dog? If you didn't want to have to deal with your parents would you kill your parents?
No? That's outrageous, you say?
Then how is murdering a tiny innocent child in development any different? Selfishness comes greed, one of the seven deadly sins and streams from a lack of morality. The prolife stance is based on morality (much as MC3 has stated in a separate thread) and united we all collectively agree that we are not selfish human beings. We are concerned with the safety and well-being of innocent lives, as we do not care about ourselves first. We are dedicated to fighting for morality, and for respect. A zygote, an embryo, a fetus... scientific terms for a baby it took two people to create. You cannot tell me the end result is not a baby.
Saviours of humanity? Sounds good to me. I'd rather save a child from death then assist by standing around doing nothing, or standing next to the doctor assisting murder.

reply from: kayluvzchoice

Psychotic? no. hypocrit? how so?
A lot of people who think they are mentally healthy actually have something wrong.
You are a hypocrite because you call pro-choicer "womb gay bigots" when you seem to hate homosexuals more than anyone on here.
You support a genocide if the people were pro-choicers- but not if it were embryos.
You claim you are a "Christian", but your posts ooze "hate" and "terrorist".

reply from: yoda

Yeah, that's right. And each guard at the death camps in nazi Germany made individual choices too, didn't they? Nothing wholesale about that, is there?

reply from: yoda

Yeah, they are just as "correct"as the cold, scientific developmental terms the proaborts are so fond of, and they are also the most commonly used and therefore the most easily recognized terms.
That's the weird thing about words, we tend to use the first ones that come to mind, as long as they convey our thoughts adequately. And "baby" and "child" do that, for sure.

reply from: yoda

Well, you apparently think that YOU are "mentally healthy", right?
But after all, how can we expect any less from "kaylovesdeadbabies"?

reply from: Smurfy

Yeah, that's right. And each guard at the death camps in nazi Germany made individual choices too, didn't they? Nothing wholesale about that, is there?
They were soldiers, in a military institution. They obey orders or they get shot.
Women who seek abortions are not soldiers in a military institution.

reply from: yoda

Not always, no. Some desert, some shoot their superiors, some die willingly to keep from becoming guilty of the horrors of war. They ALL had choices, just like women today have "choices".
But the salient point is that each individual killed in the same manner adds up to a grand total for a particular society. The nazis killed a few dozen at a time, and the numbers added up to about 6 million Jews, and about that many other "undesirables".
Women in the US kill about 1.2 million babies every year, about 45 million since 1973. They add up, they add up to the largest genocide ever perpetrated on this earth.

reply from: faithman

Psychotic? no. hypocrit? how so?
A lot of people who think they are mentally healthy actually have something wrong.
You are a hypocrite because you call pro-choicer "womb gay bigots" when you seem to hate homosexuals more than anyone on here.
You support a genocide if the people were pro-choicers- but not if it were embryos.
You claim you are a "Christian", but your posts ooze "hate" and "terrorist".
HHHHHHMMMMMM just oooze it eh? Terror is a good thing when it is used properly. It is called a deterant. And if there were no more baby killers, there would be no more dead babies. SSOOOOO given the "choice", dead baby killers win out over dead babies everytime. Where have I ever stated I hated homosexuals? I say all of them deserve to live, while you suport them being wiped out in the womb. NOW LET's SEE...... Wiped out before they are even born, or supports their right to live...... Ya I'd say you are the psychotic advocate of womb gay anialation/womb gay genocide. You are the one who is guilty of a hate crime against gay humanity.

reply from: sander

Not always, no. Some desert, some shoot their superiors, some die willingly to keep from becoming guilty of the horrors of war. They ALL had choices, just like women today have "choices".
But the salient point is that each individual killed in the same manner adds up to a grand total for a particular society. The nazis killed a few dozen at a time, and the numbers added up to about 6 million Jews, and about that many other "undesirables".
Women in the US kill about 1.2 million babies every year, about 45 million since 1973. They add up, they add up to the largest genocide ever perpetrated on this earth.
Well said, Yoda.
It'll never be enough for the proaborts, sadly. I don't know the number world wide of legally murdered children, but whatever it is pales in comparison to any other genocide in human history.
The proborts are guilty of the deaths of these babies just as sure as if they took a gun to each little head and pulled the trigger.
And kayluvsdeadbabies thinks she's mentally healthy, and I'm sure smuf does too, so did every person who supported by doing nothing or supported by participating in every genocide.
The person they emulate and PP's biggest champion, Margaret Sanger, was a friend of the nazis and whole heartely embraced eguenics. She wanted nothing more than to rid society of "human weeds".
Yet these proaborts have the effrontery to deny the holocaust against the child in the womb.
They've taken denial to new heights.

reply from: yoda

Racism and "classism" account for a major part of the support for abortion. People of wealth and/or power just don't want to have to share the world with a lot of "poor trash", they'd rather see them all exterminated. So the abortionist becomes their best friend. I think that explains the rabid abortion support at the UN also.

reply from: Smurfy

Not always, no. Some desert, some shoot their superiors, some die willingly to keep from becoming guilty of the horrors of war. They ALL had choices, just like women today have "choices".
But the salient point is that each individual killed in the same manner adds up to a grand total for a particular society. The nazis killed a few dozen at a time, and the numbers added up to about 6 million Jews, and about that many other "undesirables".
Women in the US kill about 1.2 million babies every year, about 45 million since 1973. They add up, they add up to the largest genocide ever perpetrated on this earth.
The Jewish genocide was motivated by many factors. A driving one was the financial control they had (due to sheer common sense).
Abortion is not motivated by even remotely similar conditions.
It's simply a woman's wish to live her life how she wants to live it.
It's curious, we have so many men who run away from fatherhood, yet you don't condemn them for doing the same thing that women do.
You're much like Faithman; you place the blame solely on women.
You would do well to admit that you are a misogynist and be done with it.
Before you get on your high horse, I have yet to see you point out any responsibility in men. Very telling.
You're also the 'victim' of an abortion that you did not want to happen. This tarnishes every discussion you have on this issue.
It was not your body that the baby/z-e-f was growing in. You have no right to complain. You did you bit when you stuck your penis up her vagina and ejaculated. Beyond that, she does all the hard work while you swan around, oblivious.
Your problem is that you cannot empathise with women at all. You're an oldschool chauvenist with no respect for women.
let me anticipate your response:
blah blah baibies blah blah
Note: I am not attacking YOU, only your position. Unlike yourself, where you make up juvenile names for other posters and resort to pre-school tactics.

reply from: faithman

Not always, no. Some desert, some shoot their superiors, some die willingly to keep from becoming guilty of the horrors of war. They ALL had choices, just like women today have "choices".
But the salient point is that each individual killed in the same manner adds up to a grand total for a particular society. The nazis killed a few dozen at a time, and the numbers added up to about 6 million Jews, and about that many other "undesirables".
Women in the US kill about 1.2 million babies every year, about 45 million since 1973. They add up, they add up to the largest genocide ever perpetrated on this earth.
The Jewish genocide was motivated by many factors. A driving one was the financial control they had (due to sheer common sense).
Abortion is not motivated by even remotely similar conditions.
It's simply a woman's wish to live her life how she wants to live it.
It's curious, we have so many men who run away from fatherhood, yet you don't condemn them for doing the same thing that women do.
You're much like Faithman; you place the blame solely on women.
You would do well to admit that you are a misogynist and be done with it.
Before you get on your high horse, I have yet to see you point out any responsibility in men. Very telling.
You're also the 'victim' of an abortion that you did not want to happen. This tarnishes every discussion you have on this issue.
It was not your body that the baby/z-e-f was growing in. You have no right to complain. You did you bit when you stuck your penis up her vagina and ejaculated. Beyond that, she does all the hard work while you swan around, oblivious.
Your problem is that you cannot empathise with women at all. You're an oldschool chauvenist with no respect for women.
let me anticipate your response:
blah blah baibies blah blah
Note: I am not attacking YOU, only your position. Unlike yourself, where you make up juvenile names for other posters and resort to pre-school tactics.
You haven't seen anything said about men because you are blinded to see only what you want to. The "choice" side is exactly the same mind set, and was started for exactly the same reasons that fueled the jewish holocost. As a matter of history, margret sanger had nazi doctors write articles in her news letter just before WW2. Secular humanism atheism is the driving force behind abortion on demand, just like it was the driving force behind the Third Riech. We have never just blamed the women. We have posted many times about the predatory men that drag young girls into abortion clinics to cover statutory rape. That pro-abort men kill both mother and child because pro-life mom won't abort. You just "choose" to ignore those facts. You are the monster who says a womb child must die just on a whim. So don't even start you crap like you have some kind of high ground. You are lower than a snakes belly in a wagon rut. And we resort to pre-school tactics so we don't get to far over your head.

reply from: Smurfy

...haven't seen anything about men, except when I have prompted people.
Candy-coat it however you want - the males here paint it clearly as the female being to blame.

reply from: faithman

...haven't seen anything about men, except when I have prompted people.
Candy-coat it however you want - the males here paint it clearly as the female being to blame.
The only thing candy coated is your butt. We have been posting way before you ever showed up. In case you haven't been told, the world does not revolved around you.

reply from: Smurfy

That is in no way, a defense of your misogynistic behaviour.
Does you world revolve around unborn children?

reply from: faithman

That is in no way, a defense of your misogynistic behaviour.
Does you world revolve around unborn children?
I don't defend anything other than the womb child which most of my life does revolve around.

reply from: Smurfy

Interesting. That predisposes you towards excluding born people from your life.
That might explain your ineptitude with computers and general lack of skill in social interaction on the internet.
Was that too *****y?

reply from: faithman

It most assuredly excludes punk mouth smart a$$ bortheads. But I have a lot of pro-personhood folk in my life, and they are ten times more pleasant than any death scanc I have ever met. I don't come to the net for social interaction. I just come here to net work with womb child advocates, and kick crap out of bort heads. But kicking crap out of bortheads is even more fun in real time. A bit stinky though. At least we don't have to put up with the stench of ya on the computer.

reply from: yoda

Doesn't matter one whit about the motivation, smurfy... the result is the same, innocent people get killed.
At the EXPENSE of her baby's life....... yeah, I know.
If I knew of any men who were actively engaged in killing unborn babies, I would most certainly condemn them. Like abortionists, for example, who are mostly men.... I think they are the most horrible people on earth. Other than that, there is no real comparison between a father running away from his responsibility and a mother killing her baby. It's a despicable thing, of course, but it's not in the same category as actually killing the baby.
You're full of something, smurfy, and it doesn't smell very good. Men are responsible for at least half the abortions that take place, IMO, because they pressure women into them. For that reason, it's an "equal opportunity" atrocity, IMO.
You would do well to soak your head in a bucket, but I doubt you will.
Nope, wrong again. I am the FATHER of the victim of an abortion. You just don't have a clue, do you?

reply from: Smurfy

That was established long ago.
*laughs*

reply from: yoda

A genuine prolifer holds that saving the lives of babies is always more important than selfish considerations, smurfy, but I can understand that being a foreign concept to you.

reply from: faithman

That was established long ago.
*laughs*
What is laughable if it weren't so pathetic is that you do. I prefer to interact with real human beings. But of course if all humans are aborted, you still got your computer.

reply from: Smurfy

Considering your general attitude, you don't know any 'real human beings' beyond the checkout girl at the supermarket and the guy at the petrol station.
Someone like you cannot function in normal society except on a very superficial level.

reply from: faithman

Considering your general attitude, you don't know any 'real human beings' beyond the checkout girl at the supermarket and the guy at the petrol station.
Someone like you cannot function in normal society except on a very superficial level.
Gosh! you must have been looking in a mirror when you said that!!

reply from: Smurfy

I'm not a lesbian. Fail.

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