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If abortions are banned in America!

by: boinky78

Do you honestly think they will end?

reply from: donnajohnston

absolutly not. abortions are legal and free in canada and thats the way it needs to be everywhere. making abortion iilegal doesn't solve anything cause then you have all these mothers having babies that they can't take care of.

reply from: boinky78

Well it's funny cause alot of American prolifers think that if it's banned here it's banned everywhere

reply from: pookiy1980

Killing born people is illegal yet it still happends.
Are you pro-the choice of murdering all stages of life? Why just one stage?

reply from: boinky78

O yes pookiey because a feeling thinking person could really be compared to a fetus
so yes killing a 20 year old would be just like killing a fetus
*rollseyes*
hope my sarcasm wasn't too obvious

reply from: pookiy1980

your ignorance is
again I ask why is it ok to kill a person who has yet been born? but not ok to kill a 20y/o? or a 80y/o who has already lived life?

reply from: boinky78

I don't know maybe because a fetus is not a person?
a fetus is an emotionaless clump of cells
me whinng about how evil killing something that could be compared to a parasite is about as stupid as comparing abortion to the holocost...
o wait prolifers all ready do that
never mind

reply from: pookiy1980

Wow you have really been brainwashed lol! You have no room to talk about anyone else. You have a lot to learn. I am sure there will be others here who choose to provide you with definitions and basic human anatomy, but I am not going to.
Go do you some research look up what "person" is, look up the anatomy and physiology look up developmental stages use your brain for once you don't have to act like the rest of the brainwashed pro-killers.

reply from: boinky78

[Wow you have really been brainwashed]
lol here I go thinking for myself and not agreeing with you
I MUST BE BRAINWASHED!
[ pro-killers. ]
Yes I'm pro-killer
I guess burgerking is pro death too

reply from: jujujellybean

okay that is totally wrong. First of all, fetus is latin for unborn baby. Second of all, tell me the magical day that a "fetus" becomes a person. There isn't is there? We are dealing with science not magic as you seem to think

reply from: boinky78

I don't consider human parasites people
sorry if prolifers can make up their own meanings for things like
*coughmurdercough*
why can't I?

reply from: isaiahmom5242007

the mothers that can not take care of there babies can give a couiple that can the option to raise the child there are programs that can hep her to get on her feet. Abortion are not the answer God Bless

reply from: AshMarie88

Not all of them, but most.

reply from: pookiy1980

juju you are still new here. We often get these losers who have nothing better to do then come here and try to stir up problems. she can easily look up this information for herself and become informed....she provides no proof to any of her posts and gets confused with what is real and what is only her opinion.
you will get tired of the games too.
BTW welcome!

reply from: AshMarie88

Do you consider lazy welfare bums parasitic non-people, too?
At least you acknowledge that what's in the woman is indeed HUMAN...

reply from: pookiy1980

Ash, she has not gone and done her research yet...she only knows what the pro-murders have told her.
per her definition people who are in comas, brain dead are not people because they do not feel or think.

reply from: boinky78

pookiy it has been proven that people in coma can indeed feel pain

reply from: boinky78

Ash no not most since America does not makeup the majority of the earth

reply from: AshMarie88

It's been proven that "fetuses" indeed feel pain, too.

reply from: AshMarie88

... MOST ABORTIONS IN AMERICA.

reply from: boinky78

Ash my sister inlaw is on welfare she is young and cant get a job becuz she didnt grad from high school
and I do consider her human because she feels and thinks
which a fetus doesnt
a fetus can be compared to a parasite

reply from: boinky78

Ash not before 24 weeks tho
most abortions happen way beforeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee then
I think only 1% of abortions happen that late in
and thats because of health issues

reply from: boinky78

ash so? the problem will never end banning abortion in America will prove to other countries that we are overly emotional religious idots like they think
-_-

reply from: AshMarie88

I'm trying not to bang my head on my desk.
WHAT ABOUT THE "LAZY" "BUMS" THAT SIT ON THEIR DONKEYS ALL DAY DOING NOTHING WHEN THEY "CAN" WORK AND FEED OFF EVERYONE WHO'S HARD WORKING?????????
Me, I do NOT want MY HARD EARNED CHECK going to some lazy person just because they refuse to do something with their lives! I should have a say in what happens with the money "I" make. NOT them.
However, that's not the point.
And anyway, parasite is the complete opposite term for unborn baby.

reply from: AshMarie88

Nope. You're wrong. Quite a lot of late terms happen when mom and baby both are healthy.
Tiller the Killer is an example.
Also, level of gestation doesn't matter. Whether it's 24 days or 24 weeks, it's the SAME person, it deserves the SAME chance.

reply from: boinky78

Ash a fetus is like a parasite both suck the life out of their host
only someone who wants to experince that could enjoy it
and yes I still consider those who leech of the government human because they feel emotions etc
fetuses don't

reply from: AshMarie88

As was put before,
"self awareness isn't the test for being human.
Is the DNA human - then the fetus is human.
Is it living- then the fetus is alive.
And abortion kills it.
Pretty simple "

reply from: AshMarie88

I have to go to work soon. Have fun looking like an idiot, little one.

reply from: jujujellybean

thanks pookiey for welcoming me.
I realize that! These people have no idea about stuff and their reasons for abortion are selfish! Seriously! It's frustrating because they won't listen either!

reply from: jujujellybean

thanks for the welcome, pookiey! I love this place, except when people like boinky get on! ugh! it is a definitely a frustrating game. seriously, they think that beingin the womb makes a diff. As if. A person is a person whether old, young, or a week old.

reply from: boinky78

"self awareness isn't the test for being human.
Is the DNA human - then the fetus is human.
Is it living- then the fetus is alive.
And abortion kills it.
Pretty simple "
Tumors have human dna
should we not get rid of tumors?

reply from: jujujellybean

you go ash! they do! and besides even if they didn't, would it matter? If I had no feelings and couldn't talk, would that mean I should be killed?

reply from: jujujellybean

boinky, have you done research? by your answers I am thinking not. can you tell me the magical day that a "fetus, or unborn child in latin, just suddenly becomes human? than I may consider your argument!

reply from: boinky78

[Enslaving and killing black people was legal at one point, wasn't considered murder... I suppose that wasn't malice? ]
They were thinking feeling people so of course it's wrong
[Murder is LEGAL in other countries besides ours, I suppose that's not malicious either? Just BECAUSE it's legal? ]
Murder is legal in Amerca the death penalty
whichis alot worse then abortion
[1. desire to inflict injury, harm, or suffering on another, either because of a hostile impulse or out of deep-seated meanness: the malice and spite of a lifelong enemy.
2. Law. evil intent on the part of a person who commits a wrongful act injurious to others. ]
Sorry but this doesnt fit into the meaning of abortion

reply from: jujujellybean

Each individual is an individual, no matter what state. murder can also be defined as killing against his or her will. well, if that's true, do you think that that baby would want to be killed?

reply from: jujujellybean

also, can you tell me the magical day that that 'fetus' becomes a human? what is the magical day? You didn't answer that question!

reply from: boinky78

No juju a baby would not want to be killed because he/she is a feeling thinking person

reply from: jujujellybean

you didn't answer my question. Tell me the magical day that a fetus becomes a 'person.' you are very good at evading questions.

reply from: jujujellybean

a 'fetus' is a thinking feeling person. at 4 1/2 months it can feel. Guess what? at 3 weeks the heart is beating! Just like ours! And when a heart is beating, there is life, and taking that away is murder. Also, most abortions happen after this. And by DNA, I mean it's hair color is determined, it's eye color is set, the dimples it has, even a chin cleft! Seriously, and that happens right when the sperm enters the egg. Conception is the beginning...so that means it is human from the beginning!!!!!

reply from: boinky78

juju the day you leave the womb
to be a person you must have a perosnality
and a perosnality comes with experince
everyday you are exposed to the world you develope more and more of who you are
so the day someone becomes a person in my opinion is the day the leave they womb

reply from: boinky78

[a 'fetus' is a thinking feeling person. ]
Who told you that lie?
[Guess what? at 3 weeks the heart is beating! Just like ours! ]
Cows have heart beats too
should we not kill/eat cows?
[And when a heart is beating, there is life, and taking that away is murder. ]
So that makes killing cows murder?since cows have heart beats and are living
and I know you're going to start rambling on about how cows are animals and how they don't matter but I'll ask you this
what makes human life more important?
plus humans are also animals
[Conception is the beginning...so that means it is human from the beginning!!!!!]
O i'm sorry I forgot that your opinion dictacts over the rest of the earth
you're right
"sarcasm'

reply from: jujujellybean

do you see an animal discovering how to create a better engine? Can they compose and build houses?

reply from: jujujellybean

answer me this. TELL ME THE MAGICAL DAY THAT A FETUS BECOMES A HUMAN. So far you have been very good at evading this question.

reply from: kayluvzchoice

JUJUJELLY....
::a 'fetus' is a thinking feeling person.::
You are so right...then I was a fetus, I was thinking about what color booties I wanted to wear when I was born.
You do realize the brain is not fully developed until weeks 18-20? Most abortions are BEFORE that.

reply from: boinky78

do you see an animal discovering how to create a better engine? Can they compose and build houses?
So if there was a lifeform 10x smarter then you
youd be perfectly fine with them killing you?

reply from: jujujellybean

ok boinky lets deal with reality. We are talking about this world, not some fantasy land you made up. stick to topics people!

reply from: kayluvzchoice

I love how you avoid things when you can't back them up.

reply from: jujujellybean

ok, I'll answer for MS. Smarty pants. I don't believe in killing animals. It is just that animals are not capable as being as good as we are. And some of my views do have a religous basis. So what? At least I have something I look up to, God, for help, instead of thinking myself the only thing on earth. Evolution? don't buy it. I ttyl love animals. I have three cats, but they can't talk and don't equal humans!

reply from: boinky78

[ok boinky lets deal with reality.]
So you believe in a magical jesus yet you don't believe that one day there could be a lifeform 10x smarter then humans?

reply from: boinky78

It is just that animals are not capable as being as good as we are.
So if there was a lifeform 10x smarter then you
you would be perfectly fine with them treating you like property?
[but they can't talk and don't equal humans! ]
Animals do talk you just can't understand them
They talk amoung each other in their own lang
just because you can't understand it doesnt mean they talk thats also a weak argument
some people don't talk
should we disregard them as important?

reply from: QueenJ

I'm trying not to bang my head on my desk.
WHAT ABOUT THE "LAZY" "BUMS" THAT SIT ON THEIR DONKEYS ALL DAY DOING NOTHING WHEN THEY "CAN" WORK AND FEED OFF EVERYONE WHO'S HARD WORKING?????????
Me, I do NOT want MY HARD EARNED CHECK going to some lazy person just because they refuse to do something with their lives! I should have a say in what happens with the money "I" make. NOT them.
However, that's not the point.
And anyway, parasite is the complete opposite term for unborn baby.
Wow. You're classist, too. One more addition to your ever-growing list of charming qualities!

reply from: jujujellybean

First of all, Jesus is not magical. Have you heard some of the miracles that have happened? if you choose not to believe, that's beyond me, but I can't change that. Sure, at some point maybe there will be some living thing 10X smarter than humans...but that sure isn't now, is it? And what do you suggest we do, huh? Let them live among us like people? Yah they would sure make it in our world!!!!!

reply from: jujujellybean

babies can't talk and you disregard them?
And we have studies the brains of animals: they don't have the same kind of developed brain that we do: SCIENTIFIC FACT!!!!!!!

reply from: boinky78

Can They Move, Hear, Or Feel Pain:
A person in coma cannot obey commands; however, they may move in response to touch, pain, or their own movements. A person in coma may respond to pain by moving or groaning, but usually they have no recall of pain. Some people in coma may appear to be able to hear and understand by squeezing a hand, sucking, responding to touch, or calming down when a familiar voice is heard. Since most persons in coma cannot recall the period of unconsciousness, it is not possible to determine if the comatose person could actually hear and understand. A good rule to follow is, to talk to, and about the person as if they could hear and understand you.
http://www.biausa.org/Wyoming/whatis.htm

reply from: jujujellybean

listen, a baby doesn't know when it is in the womb, yet when it's older and grown, do you think it could remember any pain? NO. Yet still it is alive and probably would not want to be dead.

reply from: boinky78

juju your logic is silly XD

reply from: yoda

This entire discussion is rather silly.
Posting one's opinion about when we become "people" is like guessing at the number of feet in a mile...... it's idiotic. There are standard refernce sources to look this stuff up..... they are called dictionaries.
The word person has multiple definitons, but the most common and oldest one is "the body of a human being" (links available on request). The legal definition has only been in existence since 1973 and is resticted to legal discussions.
Now unless one of you proabort wants to make the standard, ultra-silly proabort argument that we aren't human being "until you say so", that should settle the matter.

reply from: boinky78

[ultra-silly proabort argument that we aren't human being "until you say so", that should settle the matter. ]
No one is denying that a fetus has human dna

reply from: yoda

Human DNA is not enough by itself to qualify us as human beings. We must also be recognized as individual creatures, not just random cells or parts of a creature.
And a fertilized human egg is a complete creature. It governs itself in the womb, it directs it's own growth and development according to it's DNA structure.

reply from: kayluvzchoice

Boinky:
Don't you just love how these people preach about things they know nothing about and haven't done any research on, and they call us uneducated?

reply from: boinky78

yes kayluv I luv it yet it's starting to annoy the hell out of me -_-

reply from: kayluvzchoice

:::it's starting to annoy the hell out of me:::
you and me both

reply from: jujujellybean

just tell me how your opinion is better than mine? I use science, and you say it false and so what am I supposed to do?

reply from: jujujellybean

and also, I'm sorry if we are so boring and can't stop annoying you, but if it's that bad, leave! This is a pro life website, thank you!

reply from: boinky78

[I use science]
What science have you used?ooo now I remember
1.Gays are lying evil people with an agenda who want to kill off the human race
so they won't have to reproduce
2.The world is not over populated that's just the lie the government and planned parenthood tells us so they can get money off of bc and abortion
3.Humans lives are valueable because in your opinion we're smarter and we have opposable thumbs which makes it capible for us to learn to play the violen
4.You talked with your father about over population so w/e he says must be fact because he is all knowing
ty for correcting us all with your sanity

reply from: jujujellybean

that is completely off what I was saying and you know it!
I use science in my reasoning with abortion. Proven facts. I wasn't even talking about that. Talk about taking things out of context.

reply from: jujujellybean

and remember, this is a pro life website you are on. What did you expect? A bunch of people to agree with you? Pro life means against abortion, thank you.

reply from: MC3

To Boinky78, KayLuvzChoice, Syrenity and the others of their kind on this forum:
Regarding your claim of being annoyed, you need to remember that this forum was created to be an internet meeting place for the pro-life community. It was never intended to win you over. We long ago accepted that people like you three are immune to arguments based on science, logic or morality and the posts you have made certainly reinforce that conclusion.
However, I have to concede that your presence here does serve a purpose. I cannot tell you how encouraging it is for the people in our movement to see firsthand how God has bless us with abysmally stupid enemies. To tell the truth about it, that is the only reason we allow you here in the first place.
So if you don't mind being exploited in that way, stick around. Otherwise, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

reply from: faithman

Here Here!!! or is it hear hear......

reply from: kayluvzchoice

JUJU
::just tell me how your opinion is better than mine? I use science, and you say it false and so what am I supposed to do?::
You use propaganda and emotion. Tell me one thing you have said that science and fact backs up?
::and also, I'm sorry if we are so boring and can't stop annoying you, but if it's that bad, leave! This is a pro life website, thank you!::
I like to argue. Also, I have as much right to be here as you.

reply from: MC3

KayLuvzChoice:
You stated to JuJu that "...I have as much right to be here as you." Of course, you are as wrong about that as you have been wrong about everything else you have posted on this forum.
Let me set you straight on this matter. Your presence here is a privilege you have been given, not a right to which you are entitled. The reality is that you are allowed to post here only because we say you can. I will also point out that you are treated far better on this pro-life forum than any of us would be treated on a pro-choice forum. And that, my dear, is a fact not open to debate.
I guess your inability to distinguish between a right and a privilege is understandable, given that you think you should have the right to execute your own baby.

reply from: Hereforareason

"I have as much right to be here as you."
You want to claim a right to be on a forum, yet you would deprive thousands the right to breath.
We have been given so much that we take all for granted. Life should not be taken for granted. It is precious.
Amber

reply from: jujujellybean

how do I use emotion? I don't know the people being aborted, so how can I use emotion? By science I have learned that it is a human life and I don't want all those people killed. That is not emotion, that is a fact.
and propaganda? anything is propaganda that is going against another opinion! You are as much of propaganda as I am!

reply from: jujujellybean

okay, heres something: have you heard of talking to the baby in the womb? SCIENCE has proven that talking to them, playing music for them, and interaction with the baby can help development. There was a baby, at three moths old, on America's Funniest Home Videos that could say I live you, or at least try to, you could tell it was saying that. You know why? Those parents had told the baby that they loved it over and over so many times when it was still 3 months old, it could say I love you! If that doesn't prove that that's a baby in there, I don't know what does. SCIENCE proved that. surprise, you, Kay?

reply from: Banned Member

You do not allow us on here, the owners of this site allow us on here. You have nothing to do with it.
Something isn't a fact just because you proclaim it to be.
We're not treated with any amount of respect on this site. We are called ignorant & heartless over & over again, so please, save it. Jump down off your high horse. You aren't better than anyone else.

reply from: yoda

Your posts get sadder and sadder, Syrenity.... you have no idea to whom you are talking, do you? MC3 is Mark Crutcher, President or Life Dynamics, the owners of this forum. Still think he has "nothing to do with it"?
<snicker, snicker....>
The fact that you are here at all, and allowed to state your opinion is a heck of a lot better treatment than most prolifers ever get on a proabort forum.

reply from: MC3

Now be nice, Yodavator. Have a little compassion for poor Syrenity. It can't be easy having to spend your life repeatedly making a complete fool of yourself.

reply from: yoda

You know Mark, I really do feel a little bit sorry for her.... and I'd feel a lot more sympathy if she'd just quit calling us names and ........ like you say.... making a complete fool of herself.
A fine example of a "prochoicer", I think.....

reply from: jujujellybean

You do not allow us on here, the owners of this site allow us on here. You have nothing to do with it.
Something isn't a fact just because you proclaim it to be.
We're not treated with any amount of respect on this site. We are called ignorant & heartless over & over again, so please, save it. Jump down off your high horse. You aren't better than anyone else.
ok, you chose to get on this site and are choosing to post things. We didn't ask you to come, you just came. So, in fact, if anything is wrong with that you brought it upon yourself.
and I am prolife and people say I am biased, I just use propaganda, and all that crud. That in ways is just as bad, so why don't you stop complaining?
I have never used such heartless, ignorant language as that. Some people may have, but that is rude. I pride myself on being better!!!!

reply from: Banned Member

Really, well if Mark really is the owner, please, ban me. I would see it as a victory. Under your name it is listed as Member, not owner, so how so some one supposed to know, hmm?
And Yoda, please, you were calling me idiotic, dense, ignorant, ect, before I even replied to any of your post, so jump down off your high horse, you aren't any better. I don't believe I've called you any names yet.
A fine example of a pro-lifer, I think...

reply from: yoda

Banning you would be counter-productive, since the purpose of this forum is to show the depravity of the proabortion position. And, he is under no obligation to advertise his position here. How did you come to the conclusion that he was NOT the owner? Why make yourself look foolish before you even ask who he is? Are you eager to look foolish?
Page number, please? If you're trying to generate sympathy, you ought to at least make an effort to be honest about it....

reply from: MC3

Syrenity:
I am indeed the owner of this site but I have never found it necessary to either conceal or trumpet that fact. It is simply not a big deal.
That aside, I am not going to ban you nor have I ever suggested that I might. The fact is, censorship is a tactic employed by your side not mine. The only people we have ever banned were those who used extreme profanity or rhetoric we considered to be of a personally threatening nature. That has only happened two or three times since this forum has been in existence and, in one incident, the person we banned was pro-life.
It is actually quite revealing that this "banning" idea was introduced by you and not by anyone on this forum. Apparently, since banning people with whom you disagree is ubiquitous on pro-choice websites, you assumed that it is the way these issues are handled by everyone else. Of course, you were wrong.
Also, why would I ban you given that I have made it clear that I want you to be on the forum? As I've said before, the moronic things people like you say here prove that God has blessed us with ignorant and irrational enemies. It is not possible to overestimate the value of that realization. Pro-lifers have always understood that people who defend legalized abortion are thoroughly immoral, and if all you did was come here and reinforce that reality it would not be enough to convince them that you can be beaten.
However, when they see first-hand that the pro-choice mob is also not very bright, that becomes an enormous source of encouragement. After all, history shows that amoral and dim-witted barbarians sometimes defeat even the most powerful enemy, but they inevitably lose to those who are smarter and in the service of a noble cause.

reply from: jujujellybean

however Mark, they think WE are stupid. Ever site we give, every piece of science you use is considered propaganda. Only things they believe in isn't. It's pretty obvious they are not only full of themselves, but also so very smart that their opinion is better than everyone else's!!!!!


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